Hey Gang--
Just back from Sundance in Park City UT, where I met an actress, Cheryl Rodes who is the femme fatale in "House of the Wolfman"
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm451120896/nm2809010 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm451120896/nm2809010)
She has great things to say about her experience with the film, and Ron Chaney especially.
She is going to help get me linked into someone to get a DVD of the film
AND she says that they are discussing a sequel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
OG
Further to...
Cheryl also mentioned that the Actor who played Dracula in this film, Michael R Thomas, passed 24 August 2009--more than a month before it premiered.
OG
That is awesome! I really want to see and own it myself!
Spoke with John McGar and he said that the film sold. He will keep us posted with DVD release dates etc.
While they all would like to do a sequel, and may, John personally destroyed all of the sets to the last movie.
I am really looking forward to this!
Apparently Taurus Entertainment has the global DVD rights. Their website does not indicate release dates but I've an email into them
How sad about the sets!
OG
GIMME!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
"the Actor who played Dracula in this film, Michael R Thomas, passed 24 August 2009"
I believe there's much on that elsewhere around here, OG.
-Craig
Thanks Craig...and apologies for the unintentional repetition. I do not have the opportunity to hit the majority of the threads.
OG
Sounds nice.
I must own this DVD as soon as it comes out. Not usually one for "blind buys", but this film just looks great!
I've been keeping silent about this mainly because Mike Thomas was a friend of mine and i really wanted his last project to be something memorable and special. I saw the Chiller screening and aside from the last 10 minutes or so when everything hits the fan, it was pretty painful. I'm happy to hear there may be a sequel because the idea itself was wonderful. A horror movie made the old school way w/no CGI and in black & white, in the classic Universal spirit. Considering the budget, the sets were very impressive and so was the camera work & overall atmosphere.... I think it would have been a different movie with a bigger budget and had the monsters been given more screen time. Hopefully this will be the case with a sequel. Naturally, i recommend everyone give the movie a try. Like everyone else who loves classic horror, i considered this a must see and wanted nothing more than to LOVE IT!. For me it just didn't live up to its potential...but to each his own.
I'll still definitely buy it. If not to rewatch again and again, just to show my support for this type of film.
I'm a total sucker for this stuff though. I'll confess here and now, I was so enamored with the first black and white 20 minute segment of Van Helsing I rode the high for the rest of the film! I spent months defending it to friends, then the DVD came out and I bought it and watched it again.
The spell broke, and I know see it for the unforgivable hunk of crap it is. The rose colored glasses of the classic black and white monsters shattered.
Hey All,
Was chatting with one of the actors in this film this morning, and just learned DVD is expected to be released......
....wait for it......
In October.
OG
Quote from: Opera Ghost on May 04, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
Hey All,
Was chatting with one of the actors in this film this morning, and just learned DVD is expected to be released......
....wait for it......
In October.
OG
Well, you cant knock the timing......but my disquieted soul yearns to see it
now...... :D ;)
Good to hear, I have really been wanting to see this in its entirety. I already love the way the monsters look.
Finally! Just wish it was sooner. I really want to see it!
Quote from: Anton Phibes on May 04, 2010, 09:43:44 PM
Well, you cant knock the timing......but my disquieted soul yearns to see it now...... :D ;)
Listen to Anton Phibes! Child of the night! What music he makes!
Quote from: Rich on May 06, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
Listen to Anton Phibes! Child of the night! What music he makes!
I've seen too many movies. ;D ;D ;D ;) Except House of Wolfman.
Quote from: Anton Phibes on May 06, 2010, 10:02:26 PM
I've seen too many movies. ;D ;D ;D ;) Except House of Wolfman.
Watch a classic monster movie. They're my ONLY weakness. ;D
Thanks for the release time update-now i'll stop searching the net for info that doesn't exist. At least for a while.
And also thanks for the heads up about the film itself.
I want it to be better than i know that it will be.
There's been no word from anyone who actually saw it and all there was to go on was that trailer and the publicity pics and poster. Though the pics and poster looked promising the fact that the trailer seemed more concerned with the guests being invited to the castle and having to meet some challenge -with no mention of how our beloved monsters fit into the mix-left me suspicious of a satisfiying monsterfest.
The one thing i did hear as that Ron wasn't the actor that his grandfather was and that was disappointing.
Even still - an actual Chaney in a monster film does warm the monsterkid heart at least a bit.
how am i JUST finding out about this?!?!?!?!
i am disgusted with myself.
Quote from: jedicow on May 24, 2010, 08:52:17 PM
how am i JUST finding out about this?!?!?!?!
i am disgusted with myself.
If it helps......I'm disgusted with you too. Welcome to the UMA Jedicow!! Glad to have you here!!
I very much want to see this one!
A sequel!?, Cooool!
In the sequel, I hope they add The Mummy. Imhotep-- or Kharis, not really sure-- was supposed to be in House of Frankenstein but the budget was too low for the special effects.
Quote from: 70alt1 on June 30, 2010, 04:12:37 PM
In the sequel, I hope they add The Mummy. Imhotep-- or Kharis, not really sure-- was supposed to be in House of Frankenstein but the budget was too low for the special effects.
I doubt seriously there will be a sequel by this filmmaker. According to Ron Chaney, sets were all destroyed, and there does not seem to be any further discussions on the topic.
OG
I haven't heard of this before. Looks like it'll be fun. They should rerun this thing to death on SYFY and maybe it'll lead to more projects of its kind. Hey SYFY no more stupid creature features.
QuoteI think it would have been a different movie with a bigger budget and had the monsters been given more screen time.
If you go back and watch the classic monster rallies, they don't give the monsters that much screen time. Larry is Larry more then he is the Wolf Man, Dracula gets destroyed in the first 15 minutes of House of Frankenstein, and the Monster does not do anything until the last 10 minutes. These movies were more character and story drivin.
It's ready for DVD release:
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16203 (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16203)
Quote from: Phantom Stranger on August 16, 2010, 05:20:56 PM
It's ready for DVD release:
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16203 (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16203)
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEXcellennnnnt (twiddling fingers menacingly)
Cool -Amazon has it listed for pre-order:
http://www.amazon.com/House-Wolf-Man-Ron-Chaney/dp/B003R9K0L0/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1281997921&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/House-Wolf-Man-Ron-Chaney/dp/B003R9K0L0/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1281997921&sr=1-1)
Cool!
Blocked from Amazon....any new info on the actual release date?
Amazon says Sept. 28, for $17.99. I hope it actually does come out then and isn't delayed. be nice to have before Halloween.
Quote from: Moonshadow on August 16, 2010, 05:45:17 PM
Amazon says Sept. 28, for $17.99. I hope it actually does come out then and isn't delayed. be nice to have before Halloween.
AWESOME. Thanks for the update MS
Just pre-ordered on Deep Discount $13+change, no sales tax and free shipping!
Looking forward to getting this one! >:D
SPOILER ALERT*********************My enthusiasm for this has been tempered after reading that the three big monsters only show up for the last ten minutes of the movie. WTF? How can you make an homage to the great old Universal monster rallys and then only give us ten minutes of monster action?
Quote from: Moonshadow on September 07, 2010, 09:33:54 PM
My enthusiasm for this has been tempered after reading that the three big monsters only show up for the last ten minutes of the movie. WTF? How can you make an homage to the great old Universal monster rallys and then only give us ten minutes of monster action?
I think a Spoiler alert would've been a nice lead in here ;D
Quote from: Opera Ghost on September 08, 2010, 02:08:46 PM
I think a Spoiler alert would've been a nice lead in here ;D
OG, I was thinking of it more as a warning than a spoiler! But I have added an alert to the post now, so no one will miss out on the incredible disappointment I'm sure they'll feel once they actually buy the movie and discover this info for themselves! ;)
Quote from: Moonshadow on September 08, 2010, 02:19:24 PM
OG, I was thinking of it more as a warning than a spoiler! But I have added an alert to the post now, so no one will miss out on the incredible disappointment I'm sure they'll feel once they actually buy the movie and discover this info for themselves! ;)
Was hoping that the smiley would soften any percieved harshness which was not intended. Just informational.
It's just that everyone here has been waiting for this DVD for better than a year, and I think altho there is eager anticipation, there are realistic expectations by most.
Quote from: Opera Ghost on September 08, 2010, 02:23:41 PM
Was hoping that the smiley would soften any percieved harshness which was not intended. Just informational.
It's just that everyone here has been waiting for this DVD for better than a year, and I think altho there is eager anticipation, there are realistic expectations by most.
No worries, I took it in the spirit intended. I was just rather shocked to read that information on another message board. I certainly don't recall reading anyone here commenting on it, so I felt it was worth being noted. It's like when you think you're buying one thing and end up with something different; personally that really bothers me. From the trailer it certainly looks like we are getting one type of movie, but after reading that info, it sounds like what we actually get is quite different.
I just ordered this movie from Bestbuy.com ($14.99 + Shipping) and it will be delivered between 09/28 - 10/05. I'll give a review after I have a chance to watch it. My review may be a little skewed, however since I've been anticipating this movie for quite some time and can hardly wait to see a "Chaney" in a new movie. Honestly, I don't care whether it's good or bad, I'm just happy to see a new movie of this genre being made.
I was just checking, there are sights that claim to be selling the DVDs now (presumably they are taking pre-orders).
The movie looks good from the trailer.
On Friday, I was invited to an invent here in the Hollywood area, celebrating the release of the film tomorrow night! Looking forward to it--needless to say, so hopefully I can snag one there!
OG
Quote from: Opera Ghost on September 27, 2010, 11:14:51 AM
On Friday, I was invited to an invent here in the Hollywood area, celebrating the release of the film tomorrow night! Looking forward to it--needless to say, so hopefully I can snag one there!
OG
And here we are, days and days later, with no update from you. Selfish SOB. I've got a good mind to not let you buy me dinner when I'm in town.
Wait.........scratch that.
I haven't seen it anywhere in town. But I do live in kinda a small town. Our Walmart and Hastings didn't have it. I gotta get it!
Got mine this week here in Oz.... as an import. There are some great poses for the late Mike Thomas. They pretty much nail a well-known Lugosi publicity shot with him. That said, I started watching it at midnight and fell asleep after 20 mins. that's a reflection on me, not necessarily the film, and I'll give it a better shot later, at a more civilised hour.
Quote from: depressedlarrytalbot on October 01, 2010, 06:26:34 PM
Got mine this week here in Oz.... as an import. There are some great poses for the late Mike Thomas. They pretty much nail a well-known Lugosi publicity shot with him. That said, I started watching it at midnight and fell asleep after 20 mins. that's a reflection on me, not necessarily the film, and I'll give it a better shot later, at a more civilised hour.
LOL
Well, my copy came in the mail today and I watched it. I was always told that if I couldn't say anything good about something then I shouldn't say anything at all. So, I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Quote from: ScaryCreature on October 01, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
Well, my copy came in the mail today and I watched it. I was always told that if I couldn't say anything good about something then I shouldn't say anything at all. So, I'll just keep my mouth shut.
in a situation like that silence is louder than a scream . . .
We only have one video store left in our area, a small Blockbuster. They don't have it.
Ordered my copy back in August for lees than 7.00 with free shipping.
It arrived Saturday and I watched it Saturday night.
The picture looks great, very atmosphereic , but it needed( as most modern pictures do) better writing. In my opinion Mike Thomas was the best part of the Movie. Followed closely by the Old Witch and her explanation of the close connection between the Rhinehart family and the movie Frankenstein and the Wolfman.
I would have loved to see a little more of the monsters and a lot less of relatives.
It is a movie worth having in your colection if for no other reason than to remember Mike Thomas.
63monsterkidd
Quote from: 63monsterkidd on October 04, 2010, 10:46:11 AM
Ordered my copy back in August for lees than 7.00 with free shipping.
It arrived Saturday and I watched it Saturday night.
The picture looks great, very atmosphereic , but it needed( as most modern pictures do) better writing. In my opinion Mike Thomas was the best part of the Movie. Followed closely by the Old Witch and her explanation of the close connection between the Rhinehart family and the movie Frankenstein and the Wolfman.
I would have loved to see a little more of the monsters and a lot less of relatives.
It is a movie worth having in your colection if for no other reason than to remember Mike Thomas.
63monsterkidd
agreed all around except i actually enjopyed the last 10 minutes or so. The rest of the movie was played for laughs.
spoilers:
the part with the black fellas saying things like "ooga booga ungawa cowabunga" and doing the wide eyed double take at the monsters was clearly a tongue in cheek nod at Universal's horrible portrayal of black characters as dim witted comic relief in the 40's films.
Well, although I've been frustrated with Deep Discount having this film on perpetual back order, with no eta, I just this afternoon recieved an autographed copy, after lunching with Ron Chaney.
I shall be watching it tonight!
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 13, 2010, 05:06:26 PM
Well, although I've been frustrated with Deep Discount having this film on perpetual back order, with no eta, I just this afternoon recieved an autographed copy, after lunching with Ron Chaney.
I shall be watching it tonight!
That is cool! I still need to get one.
Quote from: The Creeper on October 13, 2010, 05:58:26 PM
That is cool! I still need to get one.
Do me a favor, and order from the Chaney Enterprises website. Tell him that your a Friend of Rob's and would love to have it autographed. I think they're selling them for about $15.00
OG
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 13, 2010, 06:02:45 PM
Do me a favor, and order from the Chaney Enterprises website. Tell him that your a Friend of Rob's and would love to have it autographed. I think they're selling them for about $15.00
OG
Cool! When I get paid I will do that! Thanks!
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 13, 2010, 06:02:45 PM
Do me a favor, and order from the Chaney Enterprises website. Tell him that your a Friend of Rob's and would love to have it autographed. I think they're selling them for about $15.00
OG
Just went to chaneyenterprises.com and got a contractors website.
I ordered my copy from Amazon, and I wish I could say better things about the film. I will say this; the film is very well shot and uses the light and shadows of the black-and-white format to great effect. The sets are great (as is the model castle) and the monster make-up is fantastic. The fight scene at the climax is sort of my 12 year old brain's fantasy of what the fight scene in "Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man" should have looked like.
Unfortunately, getting to that climatic fight scene felt like watching paint dry for hours. The acting was high school play level acting (none of it consistant), which wouldn't have been so bad in small doses, but the script has these characters talking for pages and pages at a time. Worst of all, there is ABSOLUTELY NO HINT AT ALL that there are monsters in the film or monsters involved in the plot for over an hour. Mostly, it's an old dark house movie with various characters waiting to hear about their part of a will. The Wolf Man and the Frankenstein Monster pop up in the last ten minutes, and Dracula LITERALLY shows up at the door in the last five minutes for no good reason at all. Then the whole thing just stops in a cliffhanger sort of moment.
There are some great creepy cameos and make-ups along the way. The witch was the best, but the ghoul and vampire brides also looked great. I just wish the whole movie was watchable and not just the last 10 minutes.
Quote from: The Creeper on October 13, 2010, 07:16:36 PM
Just went to chaneyenterprises.com and got a contractors website.
Apologies Creeper. I had lunch with Ron yesterday, and he kept saying enterprises, but it's actually entertainment. Here is the site
http://lonchaney.com/ (http://lonchaney.com/)
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 13, 2010, 05:06:26 PM
Well, although I've been frustrated with Deep Discount having this film on perpetual back order, with no eta, I just this afternoon recieved an autographed copy, after lunching with Ron Chaney.
I shall be watching it tonight!
Tell Ron I need a copy, and there's a Big Mac with his name on it.
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 14, 2010, 11:48:49 AM
Apologies Creeper. I had lunch with Ron yesterday, and he kept saying enterprises, but it's actually entertainment. Here is the site
http://lonchaney.com/ (http://lonchaney.com/)
Thanks Rob. I will order it but don't know how to ask him to autograph it though. No way of contacting him that I seen.
Quote from: The Creeper on October 14, 2010, 03:25:27 PM
Thanks Rob. I will order it but don't know how to ask him to autograph it though. No way of contacting him that I seen.
Perhaps in the address information, you can notate please autograph? I've given them a heads up that these requests may come.
Quote from: Scatter on October 14, 2010, 02:38:20 PM
Tell Ron I need a copy, and there's a Big Mac with his name on it.
I'm sure he'll just jump all over that. Are you interested in a copy, though?
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 14, 2010, 03:27:01 PM
Perhaps in the address information, you can notate please autograph? I've given them a heads up that these requests may come.
Ok, will do. Thanks!
Well I did it! Its ordered and where it says address 2 I put Please autograph. so hopefully it will happen and if not at least I will finally get to see it!
Quote from: Opera Ghost on October 14, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
I'm sure he'll just jump all over that. Are you interested in a copy, though?
You kidding?? Heck yeah!! It'll just be a while.
Well two days later it came and is autographed! He even included a post card of the Wolfman! Thanks again Rob and if you see Ron tell him thanks from John Carboni.
Quote from: The Creeper on October 16, 2010, 02:47:48 PM
Well two days later it came and is autographed! He even included a post card of the Wolfman! Thanks again Rob and if you see Ron tell him thanks from John Carboni.
Will do John
I just got my copy from Amazon.com. I had read the review in VideoScope (http://www.videoscopemag.com), so I knew it was just "OK." It was better than I'd anticipated, and Michael R. Thomas was fantastic as Dracula! Otherwise, it was a really impressive, if flawed, effort.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on February 02, 2011, 06:45:56 PM
I just got my copy from Amazon.com. I had read the review in VideoScope (http://www.videoscopemag.com), so I knew it was just "OK." It was better than I'd anticipated, and Michael R. Thomas was fantastic as Dracula! Otherwise, it was a really impressive, if flawed, effort.
I was impressed with the overall outcome as well. While the first part of the movie drags a bit, and some of the actors are up to the task a little more than others, I thought the climactic fight scene was well worth the wait, and the "tributes" sprinkled throughout the film made the overall experience a good one for classic horror fans!
I know there's been talk of a sequel. If Ron Chaney returns, hopefully he'll have taken some acting lessons. He's got the look for these films (reminded me an awful lot of Henry Hull), but his line delivery left much to be desired. Michael R. Thomas will be hard to replace as Dracula, but maybe they should try to find a John Carradine-type for Dracula this time. Sadly, John P. McGarr (Barlow, executive producer,) has also passed away.
Meanwhile, it'd be great if they made posters of the DVD cover front. I'd sure buy one!
Quote from: Count_Zirock on February 03, 2011, 05:19:56 PM
I know there's been talk of a sequel. If Ron Chaney returns, hopefully he'll have taken some acting lessons. He's got the look for these films (reminded me an awful lot of Henry Hull), but his line delivery left much to be desired.
I agree there was much to forgive in Ron's first performance, as I'm sure there would be for any of us acting for the first time. If there's a sequel, perhaps Ron should pattern his delivery after Henry Hull and/ or Colin Clive. It would help if his character was written to be similar to characters played by these actors.
Quote from: Pauspy on February 04, 2011, 10:52:09 AM
I agree there was much to forgive in Ron's first performance, as I'm sure there would be for any of us acting for the first time. If there's a sequel, perhaps Ron should pattern his delivery after Henry Hull and/ or Colin Clive. It would help if his character was written to be similar to characters played by these actors.
Unless he returns as Dr. Bela Reinhardt, I'd like to see him in some other role than a monster. Maybe a Lionel Atwill-type Inspector, investigating dubious goings-on at whatever location they cook up for the next one.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on February 04, 2011, 05:28:56 PM
Unless he returns as Dr. Bela Reinhardt, I'd like to see him in some other role than a monster. Maybe a Lionel Atwill-type Inspector, investigating dubious goings-on at whatever location they cook up for the next one.
That would be fun, or perhaps as a George Zucco-like undead type (like his role in Dead Men Walk). I could see Ron in an undead role, no offense intended!! :)
I believe some of the folks involved in this film will be at Mad Monster Party in March. I intend to ask about the possibility of a sequel then.
I didn't get to go to Mad Monster Party back in March, so I didn't get to talk with Eben McGarr about the sequel. But, Eben has said he hopes to have Ron Chaney at Mad Monster Party 2013, so maybe they'll announce something then.
I just learned about this film on another thread. The trailer looks interesting.
Quote from: Haunted hearse on May 16, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
I just learned about this film on another thread. The trailer looks interesting.
They were pretty period-authentic!
short trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfCLy1JVHsw#)
Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 16, 2012, 07:21:14 PM
They were pretty period-authentic!
short trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfCLy1JVHsw#)
That looks awesome and the music is wonderful!
Quote from: Sean on May 16, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
That looks awesome and the music is wonderful!
It's amazing how different notes can emit the same feel!
I watched this again last night. They got more right than they did wrong. The feel of the movie, the atmosphere, the music, the sets and costumes ... all were terrific! The make-ups for the monsters were outstanding. Just imagine what they could've achieved with an even slightly bigger budget. (The climactic battle would truly benefit from a Foley artist, rather than the on-set sound they used.) I'd love to see them do "House of the Mummy," or whatever would be next. "House of the Invisible Man" is a bit cumbersome, though. How about "House of the Bride," huh? Isn't it time she was finally resurrected?
Quote from: Haunted hearse on May 19, 2012, 05:54:35 PM
Even though it may be "a mixed bag", I bought it to support the efforts that go into personal films like this. For me "Dark Shadows" was a mixed bag, and I'll bet the budget for this film was only a fraction of what Tim Burton spent on his Horror tribute.
It was probably just a fraction of the catering budget on Burton's "Dark Shadows"!
Yeah, I like to support these low-budget efforts, too. I plunked down $10 at Wal-Mart for a copy of "Creature." Again, a mixed bag, but it was a pretty cool throwback to '80s-style horror, with lots of gore, gratuitous nudity, a guy in a rubber monster suit, and Sid Haig!
Why all the Tim Burton hate? He's made way more good films than bad (I hated Alice In Wonderland) and his style is one of a kind
Quote from: gnrbaby on May 31, 2012, 11:17:48 PM
Why all the Tim Burton hate? He's made way more good films than bad (I hated Alice In Wonderland) and his style is one of a kind
I really like Tim Burton as well and his style is cool but one of a kind I think not. Watch "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and you'll see what I mean. He's borrowed lots from this film.
Quote from: gnrbaby on May 31, 2012, 11:17:48 PM
Why all the Tim Burton hate? He's made way more good films than bad (I hated Alice In Wonderland) and his style is one of a kind.
Part of the Burton backlash is due to the perception that he's sold out. That he now makes the type of bloviated, pretentious garbage ("Planet of the Apes," "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," "Alice in Wonderland," "Dark Shadows") that his early career railed against. I'm not sure if it's so much hate as it is frustration and disappointment. He's just made some poor artistic choices recently.
I'm hoping "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" (which he produced), "Frankenweenie," and his animated Addams Family film are more akin to his earlier work. But, I gotta admit, I'm not holding out much hope for "Beetlejuice 2."
Quote from: horror1o1 on May 31, 2012, 11:27:01 PM
I really like Tim Burton as well and his style is cool but one of a kind I think not. Watch "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and you'll see what I mean. He's borrowed lots from this film.
I'll check it out. All great and not so great directors "borrow" though. We are influenced by something it's natural.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on June 01, 2012, 01:25:08 AM
Part of the Burton backlash is due to the perception that he's sold out. That he now makes the type of bloviated, pretentious garbage ("Planet of the Apes," "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," "Alice in Wonderland," "Dark Shadows") that his early career railed against. I'm not sure if it's so much hate as it is frustration and disappointment. He's just made some poor artistic choices recently.
I'm hoping "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" (which he produced), "Frankenweenie," and his animated Addams Family film are more akin to his earlier work. But, I gotta admit, I'm not holding out much hope for "Beetlejuice 2."
I feel ya and you are not wrong. Though I did appreciate Charlie and Dark Shadows, and hated Apes and Alice, I see what you mean in that he hasn't made a great film for a long time. I liked Charlie because it's weird and absurd and Dark Shadows because it felt like an ode to his earlier work (I wasn't familiar with the classic DS) but they are not "great" Burton films on the same token.
Quote from: gnrbaby on June 02, 2012, 12:17:11 AM
I'll check it out. All great and not so great directors "borrow" though. We are influenced by something it's natural.
I feel ya and you are not wrong. Though I did appreciate Charlie and Dark Shadows, and hated Apes and Alice, I see what you mean in that he hasn't made a great film for a long time. I liked Charlie because it's weird and absurd and Dark Shadows because it felt like an ode to his earlier work (I wasn't familiar with the classic DS) but they are not "great" Burton films on the same token.
Oh ya everyone borrows from something. I still enjoy Tim's stuff.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on June 01, 2012, 01:25:08 AM
Part of the Burton backlash is due to the perception that he's sold out. That he now makes the type of bloviated, pretentious garbage ("Planet of the Apes," "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," "Alice in Wonderland," "Dark Shadows") that his early career railed against. I'm not sure if it's so much hate as it is frustration and disappointment. He's just made some poor artistic choices recently.
Quote from: gnrbaby on June 02, 2012, 12:17:11 AMI feel ya and you are not wrong. Though I did appreciate Charlie and Dark Shadows, and hated Apes and Alice, I see what you mean in that he hasn't made a great film for a long time. I liked Charlie because it's weird and absurd and Dark Shadows because it felt like an ode to his earlier work (I wasn't familiar with the classic DS) but they are not "great" Burton films on the same token.
I wasn't saying those are "my" feelings about Burton, but a distillation of opinions I've read on the UMA, as well as at other sites. To a certain extent, I do agree that Burton has lost his way. And I think his days as Hollywood's pale, dark-haired (well, gray-haired now) wonder-child are over. He needs a hit, badly. "Dark Shadows" could've been that hit, but he strayed too far afield from his source inspiration, I feel. Maybe "Frankenweenie" or "Van Lincoln" will do it. Maybe not. If they tank, it may be a long time before he gets $150 million to play with again.
As for "House of the Wolf Man," this was a reverse situation of "Dark Shadows." With the barest of resources, John and Eben McGarr put together a loving tribute to the classic Universal Monsters films we all enjoy. It's not perfect, but it has more talent and heart than 1999's "The Mummy" and "Van Helsing" combined.
Shockingly, "House of the Wolf Man" appears to have gone out of print. If you haven't picked up a copy, they now go for $50-$100 on Amazon & eBay. There is a company offering DVD-R copies.
http://www.raredvds.biz/House_Of_The_Wolf_Man_Wolfman_DVD_2010_Ron_Chaney_p/house_wolfman.htm (http://www.raredvds.biz/House_Of_The_Wolf_Man_Wolfman_DVD_2010_Ron_Chaney_p/house_wolfman.htm)
Quote from: Count_Zirock on June 01, 2012, 01:25:08 AM
Part of the Burton backlash is due to the perception that he's sold out. That he now makes the type of bloviated, pretentious garbage ("Planet of the Apes," "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," "Alice in Wonderland," "Dark Shadows") that his early career railed against. I'm not sure if it's so much hate as it is frustration and disappointment. He's just made some poor artistic choices recently.
I'm hoping "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" (which he produced), "Frankenweenie," and his animated Addams Family film are more akin to his earlier work. But, I gotta admit, I'm not holding out much hope for "Beetlejuice 2."
I don't hate the body of Tim Burton's work, but I have problems with some of his more recent films.
"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"; the book and Wilder film was about a imaginative person looking for an heir to carry on his work. Burton's movie was Michael Jackson in search of a playmate to share neverland Ranch with.
"Alice in Underland"(In which Burton tells us what the name of the place really was. That means he was more informed about the actual name of the place than Lewis Carroll was. Why not redo Lord of the Rings, using the characters of Lewis Carroll?
"Dark Shadows" where as a fan of the original series, he decides to make the Vampire Collins into a Pretentious buffoon.
I liked "Frankenweenie". Nice expansion of his original live action short.
I didn't hate "Planet of the Apes". In fact his ending was closer to the source material than Rod Serling's version.
I actually enjoyed "Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter".
I'm hoping that his stop action animated "Addams Family", can take away some of the trauma of having suffered through Saban's "Addams Family Reunion.
I thought Abe the Vampire Hunter was great. I really enjoyed it, especially its correct and very historical "look".
Is "House of the Wolfman" worth watching?
Quote from: DoctorDeath on March 28, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
Is "House of the Wolfman" worth watching?
I haven't seen it but safe to say if you don't like cheese....skip it!! And certainly skip it for 50 to 100 bucks!!
I have seen most of it, and I guess I would say it's like a Domino's pizza...it looks better than it tastes. Still fun, though.
Watch?...once.
Own?...nope.
Watched mine, sold it off and got my money back. Was really looking forward to it, and was let down. :-\ :'(
Quote from: zombiehorror on March 28, 2013, 01:47:46 PM
I haven't seen it but safe to say if you don't like cheese....skip it!! And certainly skip it for 50 to 100 bucks!!
Well....I do love the cheese :D
Quote from: DoctorDeath on March 28, 2013, 03:14:43 PMWell....I do love the cheese :D
$10.99 + shipping at raredvds.biz isn't bad. Who knows when we'll see another legit release?
Quote from: Count_Zirock on March 28, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
$10.99 + shipping at raredvds.biz isn't bad. Who knows when we'll see another legit release?
I might have to check that out. I love the idea of continuing making these kinds if films in this day and age. And not all of the classic Universal films were perfect either.
If you go to the Chaney website, and request it, Ron will autograph it for you! Or if attending Monsterpalooza, It they'll be there as well, and perhaps you can get a photo with them
OG
Quote from: Opera Ghost on April 03, 2013, 04:03:53 PMIf you go to the Chaney website, and request it, Ron will autograph it for you! Or if attending Monsterpalooza, It they'll be there as well, and perhaps you can get a photo with them
OG
It's no longer on the Chaney website, OG. I believe they've run out, and it appears to be OOP. Not even the Taurus Entertainment website comes up, anymore.
Edit: Taurus has been acquired by Blairwood Entertainment. You can write to them regarding "House of the Wolf Man" at:
BLAIRWOOD ENTERTAINMENT
NBC UNIVERSAL
10 UNIVERSAL CITY PLAZA
20th FLOOR
UNIVERSAL CITY, CA 91608
It seems the only way to get this now, without paying outrageous "collector" prices on eBay and Amazon, is to order a DVD-R copy from Rare DVDs. (http://www.raredvds.biz/House_Of_The_Wolf_Man_Wolfman_DVD_2010_Ron_Chaney_p/house_wolfman.htm)
I have the official "House of the Wolf Man" DVD. I was very excited about it when I read about it and bought it as soon as it came out. I love what they're trying to do, but I don't think they really succeed. The first hour and twenty minutes feels like an eternity with all the mixed-to-bad acting, but there are a couple of watchable scenes, like the scene with the witch.
The problem is that the monsters don't show up until the last ten minutes. The Frankenstein Monster VS the Wolf Man fight scene is GREAT. It's like the fight scene we wish we'd seen in "Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man," but it comes too late to save the movie. As a novelty, it's fun to have the DVD just for that scene alone, but re-watching the entire movie just isn't something I think I'll ever do.
There is one for $35 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251282433120&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_500wt_1217 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251282433120&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_500wt_1217)
How much was this when it came out? I bought one but forgot how much...The fight scene at the end was cool, but I remember it has it's flaws. It's cool to have anyhow simply to round out the "House Of" movies...
Quote from: gnrbaby on May 28, 2013, 11:48:50 PMThere is one for $35 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251282433120&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_500wt_1217 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251282433120&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_500wt_1217)
How much was this when it came out? I bought one but forgot how much...The fight scene at the end was cool, but I remember it has it's flaws. It's cool to have anyhow simply to round out the "House Of" movies...
I believe it was originally $15-$20.
reach out to the Chaney website. I think that they still sell them as well, AND if you ask, Ron will autograph it
https://youtu.be/aATgUNWe-f8 (https://youtu.be/aATgUNWe-f8)
From what I've recently learned, there is a rights dispute over the film. No, it doesn't involve Universal Pictures or NBC Universal. However, my understanding is that it's very unlikely that the film will get an official re-release anytime in the near future. Considering the effort that went into it, it's sad, even if it's not the "greatest" fan film.
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I spoke to director Eben McGarr IN RE: House of the Wolf Man at Mad Monster Party 2019 this past Saturday. There is some movement to get the film re-released, but they are in the very, very early stages. Meanwhile, McGarr hopes his new horror film, Hanukkah (2018), will be picked up for distribution soon.