Now here's something you don't see every day:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190728647084?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190728647084?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
This is a catalog set of four Lincoln Monsters and the very elusive "victim" doll. These were apparently only available as a set from Spiegel in the mid-70's, and this is only the second victim figure I've ever seen. Judging by the current bid, this has already been spotted by some Lincoln collectors with deep pockets, so I don't feel guilty about outing it at this point ;)
George
Wanna take bets on how much an obsessed mego collector will spend for a cardboard box?
How can this be a set of Lincoln Monsters, when it doesn't include Old Abe? :P
That is awesome-would love to get those figures some day! The "victim" just looks like a generic Barbie style doll and she's much smaller than the monsters, which makes her sort of in scale for tall blokes like Franky and the Mummy.
It's not even at half of what it's "worth". >:(
Well there goes another one... >:( posted in here and outbid at the same time. Weird ...
Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 24, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
Well there goes another one... >:( posted in here and outbid at the same time. Weird ...
well i had my auction stole from me i picked up some lincolns last year for a good price unfortunatly someone posted the link on megomuseum then low and behold i get a message saying sorry theres been a problm and i have refunded your money took me a long time to get over that considering i cant exacly pay the crazy prices they tend to fetch and they was gonna be a birthday gift too so yeah that one sucked
WOW!! Those are the cleanest lincolns I've ever seen. What's worth more, the Victim or the box?
Oh yeah, draculafan, I've lost count of the times that that sort of thing happens, and it never fails to really, really piss me off. I neve bid until the en Dow a timed auction anyway, but it's always disappointing to see something outted and watch the price driven up in small increments. Frankenstein73, I feel your pain, and boy oh boy do I miss the gentleman's agreement the board used to have regarding not posting live auctions if they aren't your auctions, and even then, only in the for sale section.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 24, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
Oh yeah, draculafan, I've lost count of the times that that sort of thing happens, and it never fails to really, really piss me off. I neve bid until the en Dow a timed auction anyway, but it's always disappointing to see something outted and watch the price driven up in small increments. Frankenstein73, I feel your pain, and boy oh boy do I miss the gentleman's agreement the board used to have regarding not posting live auctions if they aren't your auctions, and even then, only in the for sale section.
hi shannon nah man i mean i actually purchased them and paid straight away them someone posted the link to the completed auction on mm about an hour later my money was refunded saying there was a problem
Just FYI... I had seen it already, and I guarantee it isn't going to go cheap. I might be outbid, because I'm not paying anything for a box, but for dead mint Lincolns and victim, that is a huge find.
Mego Museum has a thread, too.
http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?79323-Lincoln-monster-mailer-box-set-with-victim (http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?79323-Lincoln-monster-mailer-box-set-with-victim)
I knew what you meant. I actually paid for something via MO years ago, the mos were cashed and then, a bit more than a week later, I got a check in return with "sorry decided not to sell". Then what I bought turned up in another collectors collection. Exact objects, no question. I still have the sellers address on file and a warm feeling towards them. The PayPal refund thing I've had happens couple of times. It's always unpleasant, but, given the law of averages, some people do and they will find each other.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 24, 2012, 04:22:31 PM
I knew what you meant. I actually paid for something via MO years ago, the mos were cashed and then, a bit more than a week later, I got a check in return with "sorry decided not to sell". Then what I bought turned up in another collectors collection. Exact objects, no question. I still have the sellers address on file and a warm feeling towards them. The PayPal refund thing I've had happens couple of times. It's always unpleasant, but, given the law of averages, some people do and they will find each other.
sorry to hear it happened to you too shannon i wouldnt of minded but it was the seller that came up with the price i brought them for then its all over mm with comments like oh i bet the buyer will get a message saying it was a mistake kind of thing thats what really got too me still painful too think about
I would be So pissed!
eric
I had my bid at a level to keep it from getting pulled by the seller in case someone tried to offer them cash money to pull the auction, I had a snipe bid placed for my real amount I could afford without using a credit card, but I doubt it comes close to it at this point. I cant compete with the caliber of collector who will win it. I was hoping it would go somewhat unnoticed due to lincoln not being a keyword in the auction, but it was in a high traffic category, and had all the characters keyword too. so I knew it would be found. Its neat that it still exists in this condition, so at least we get to see it. hopefully it goes to someone who shares it with everyone. plaidstallians for instance does a good job of sharing, informing and showing great pictures.
What do these figures usually go for individually?
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 24, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
It's not even at half of what it's "worth". >:(
Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 24, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
Well there goes another one... >:( posted in here and outbid at the same time. Weird ...
Guys, at the time I posted the link, the high bid was well over $500.00. No way was this going to go cheap. I found the auction without even looking for it. I guarantee others did too well before I posted anything.
George
I had the bid then, got outbid at $800.
I don't want to get between anyone, but I think this was over $800 when I saw it and that was before this was posted.
Eric
it doesnt matter, its had six completely different people bid on it today alone and previosly hadnt had any bids since the 20th. if it was posted at a mego site also like bobby said there isnt a chance in hell a normal workin joe is gonna own it. but Ill still raise my snipe bid and hope for the best. No big deal..... Im over it.
Friggen beautiful set
Quote from: draculafan on September 24, 2012, 03:58:59 PM
well i had my auction stole from me i picked up some lincolns last year for a good price unfortunatly someone posted the link on megomuseum then low and behold i get a message saying sorry theres been a problm and i have refunded your money
Thats 100 times worse, happened to me once post auction...cost me a wireless mouse :(
Wow, I can not believe how much their price has risen!!!
Beautiful set.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on September 25, 2012, 12:16:10 AM
Wow, I can not believe how much their price has risen!!!
Beautiful set.
It's a regular occurrence when a live auction is posted. Then, the people who are serious bid at the end after watching it nickel and dime up and up and up. How about the occurrence is seeing something end VERY high and then have it pop back up for sale because the high bidder was just some schlub with an axe to grind who miscalculated when trying to drive up the price for a real collector? It's happened a number of times on rare items and was one of the reasons eBay changed the ability to see the identities of other bidders.
I'm taking my moderator hat off here for a moment and I'm voicing my opinion on this. I think it is just plain rude and discourteous to post about live auctions, and it makes me mad as well. This auction rose over 3X after this posting started. Too bad for the serious collector that may want this set - it's likely out of most people's reach. It may have already been before, but who knows? It didn't have many of the key identifiers in the listing, and it was under some people's radar; and so what if they already posted about it on another site. The people that make these posts are not the people that are seriously bidding; they know it's out of reach so who cares, right? Now everyone drive slow in the fast lane, don't use turn signals and bring a cart full of items to the express check out lane. Or we could start thinking about other people in this world for once. The Golden Rule, people.
OK, I've vented. Don't really feel any better but I've vented.
Well said Andy.
Quote from: poseablemonster on September 25, 2012, 06:13:59 AM
I'm taking my moderator hat off here for a moment and I'm voicing my opinion on this. I think it is just plain rude and discourteous to post about live auctions, and it makes me mad as well. This auction rose over 3X after this posting started. Too bad for the serious collector that may want this set - it's likely out of most people's reach. It may have already been before, but who knows? It didn't have many of the key identifiers in the listing, and it was under some people's radar; and so what if they already posted about it on another site. The people that make these posts are not the people that are seriously bidding; they know it's out of reach so who cares, right? Now everyone drive slow in the fast lane, don't use turn signals and bring a cart full of items to the express check out lane. Or we could start thinking about other people in this world for once. The Golden Rule, people.
OK, I've vented. Don't really feel any better but I've vented.
Can't agree more.
That's alot of scratch for a set that comes with a plain cardboard box. I can see why the figures are going for more considering how clean they are, The "Victim" is just a dime store knockoff of a fashion doll called "Dawn" Someone is determined to become the legendary collector who scored a plain box that no one else has. The auctions not for how cool the figures are, it's for how rare the box is. For some collectors, rare outweighs cool 9/10 times. Monster collecting is so much different, some times folks sell things for 1/2 what they could get on Ebay. They do this because I myself, and i'm sure others included, like the feeling of an item goig to a collector who will display it proudly.
I'll still take Remcos over even The glow versions.
:-X
It has gone past the $1775 snipe I had set BEFORE this thread was started, so I have no problem saying this.... There is no way this was going to fly under the radar, and no way it was going to go cheap. I agree about posting auctions for the most part, but this is a major find and a major piece and I don't have a problem with it being posted while live. I didn't think my bid was going to be enough, but I won't go more for it. Most of the time, I am not in favor of these things being posted first, but this time I can't see that it is going to make a hill of beans difference. There are some items that monster collectors rarely win, because collectors of other genre pay more. Blue hair Mego Frankensteins, stuff like this.... the 60's nodders, etc. Most monster collectors simply do not assign as much value to these pieces as Mego collectors or Nodder collectors do. If it was called "Monstors in a box" it would be a different story.
I was one of the early bidders on this set. Based on the way the auctione was titled, I had hoped to steal it. As you can see by the price now, my hope have beed dashed. Is anyone here bidding on it? I will trade an AHI Creature for that Wolfman if you win!
Hopefully the person who wins it will have the good sense to keep the set together. This is a pretty significant find for people who collect Lincoln Monsters.
If it doesn't have a box, you should be able to get the werewolf figure for a lot less than what this set would go for. I know I would refuse to break up this set if I won this auction.
I will win it and trade the wolfman for your ahi creature and $6000.
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What I find most odd about the victim doll is her size! With her small stature she appears to be an adolescent instead of a grown woman!?
WOW :)
What a ridicuously rare item! Any thoughts on the final price?
Vinny
Quote from: zombiehorror on September 25, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
What I find most odd about the victim doll is her size! With her small stature she appears to be an adolescent instead of a grown woman!?
That's what I thought too. She is obviously from a completely different line than the monsters. She's kinda in scale for Frankie and the Mummy as they are like 7 or 8 ft tall, but Drac and Wolfie are just tall by human standards-a little over 6 ft
Quote from: ramsey37 on September 24, 2012, 10:13:33 AM
Now here's something you don't see every day:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190728647084?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190728647084?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
This is a catalog set of four Lincoln Monsters and the very elusive "victim" doll. These were apparently only available as a set from Spiegel in the mid-70's, and this is only the second victim figure I've ever seen. Judging by the current bid, this has already been spotted by some Lincoln collectors with deep pockets, so I don't feel guilty about outing it at this point ;)
George
Great insight, there,
George!
It used to matter what toys were made of, like Cast Iron... then, tin litho. Then it was WHERE a toy was made... Germany, USA or Japan? Since about the 1980s, early '90s, it became
What is it? These Lincoln toys are very rare and sought after. What a terrific group!
Quote from: IC4CHAMBERS on September 25, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
WOW :)
What a ridicuously rare item! Any thoughts on the final price?
Vinny
Ridiculous is right! $5101.15 is crazy ridiculous that is over $1000 per figure!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-HALLOWEEN-NOS-1974-MONSTER-FRANKENSTEIN-MUMMY-WOLFMAN-DRACULA-DOLL-/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/$(KGrHqR,!qYF!-Kkc+(WBQWgWPDN3!~~60_57.JPG)
It's not really a "per figure" thing. The value is as a set. So my offer to trade the Wolf Man for $6000 and an AHI Creature was about right. I could have bought the set (probably) for $6k and devalued it by $3k by removing the Wolf Man and replacing it with another, and still come out golden.
Impressive to see a vintage set in an unusual configuration like that.
The victim doll is a cheesy Hong Kong toss-in. Like Dr. Terror said, a 59c Dawn wannabe! I guess she will gain some respect after this.
Quote from: Monster Bob on September 26, 2012, 01:30:21 PM
The victim doll is a cheesy Hong Kong toss-in. Like Dr. Terror said, a 59c Dawn wannabe! I guess she will gain some respect after this.
Yeah, the idea of a "victim" only took form a couple times that I am aware of, here and in the Monster Scenes kits. In this case the reality is not as great as the concept, but the concept remains cool. "Wolf Man is going to eat my darned sister", says the little kid who is fed up with sis!
They put a lot of effort in the monsters, and honestly, what child that this was intended for cared how cool the victim looked. Sticking in whatever already in production girl toy they had on hand, probably saved a lot of little girls from having their Barbie collection raided.
of course to be fair, their may have been a few girls out there, who played with the set, and might of raided their brother's Barbie collection for a victim, if one hadn't been provided.
That went *alot* higher than I expected. I'm glad I'm not a Lincoln completist, or I'd be seriously bummed about now ;)
George
Thats some damn expensive cardboard.
Insane. I just spent a month liquidating a friend of mine's 20+ years of horror collecting. Everything he had barely reached the price these things went for. His basement was stuffed full of stuff.
I think people just take leave of their senses sometimes.
Or they are remarkably wealthy---so paying this much money for a bunch of baby dolls is kind of like Tony Stark buying and storing a Picasso.
The most I have ever paid for anything was $900. :o I had to pay for it over 3 months and work overtime to afford it. It was a Lon Chaney Sr. signature.
Each thing speaks to each collector differently I suppose. But, being born in 1970, and these being unlicensed knock offs of Universals, makes their value lost on me. If they were given to me I would probably trade them for something else. I do hope that whomever got them appreciates them, and is ok with paying that much. ???
This is what happens when more than 1 bidder "HAS" to have something. Congrats to the winner, and more-so the seller!
Quote from: jimm on September 26, 2012, 03:38:33 PM
This is what happens when more than 1 bidder "HAS" to have something. Congrats to the winner, and more-so the seller!
No kidding from the listing it sounds like they really didn't even know what they had. Awesome find for them probably jumping up and down and laughing with glee when the time ran out on the auction for a bunch of monster dolls they found in a box.
I dunno, it seemed like a $4500 to $6000 piece.
This is the catalog page.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/8027746285_9c1ebe0cc9_c.jpg)
Here are some boxed ones. Also extremely rare (and not mine, posted with permission of the owner). Some are the only ones known to exist, and seeing them together is a treat. These will each run you at least what that whole set sold for.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8042/8027742860_8018068314_c.jpg)
Whoa who owns these?
It was well worth what it brought. My snipe was $3000 didnt even go through, If i had an extra $6000 id have paid it. As far as i know its the only one complete with box in existance and verified that the set made it to producion and past a catalog picture.
Quote from: Ghost on September 26, 2012, 03:46:54 PMNo kidding from the listing it sounds like they really didn't even know what they had. Awesome find for them probably jumping up and down and laughing with glee when the time ran out on the auction for a bunch of monster dolls they found in a box.
I was wondering about that myself. From his description it didn't appear as if he had even the slightest clue as to what it was he was offering for sale. He didn't even mention the word "Lincoln" let alone "victim".
:o
Quote from: draculafan on September 24, 2012, 03:58:59 PMwell i had my auction stole from me i picked up some lincolns last year for a good price unfortunatly someone posted the link on megomuseum then low and behold i get a message saying sorry theres been a problm and i have refunded your money
You had a deal cast in stone. Not just morally but legally the seller had no right to back out of the deal. You made him a bid, he accepted it. Case closed. You could have won a suit in a court of law.
>:(
I could have went that high, but it would have ended my marage.
Quote from: Hepcat on September 26, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
I was wondering about that myself. From his description it didn't appear as if he had even the slightest clue as to what it was he was offering for sale. He didn't even mention the word "Lincoln" let alone "victim".
:o
Actually, the word Lincoln does appear in the body of the listing. Anyone doing a search of *both* title and description for "Lincoln Monster" would've found it.
George
Do you think if it was listed properly with lincoln and mego in the title, that it would have went for higher?
Vinny
Quote from: IC4CHAMBERS on September 26, 2012, 05:19:53 PM
Do you think if it was listed properly with lincoln and mego in the title, that it would have went for higher?
Vinny
Things go for more or less for many reasons, not the least of which is the title, but this was a pretty high profile listing among figure collectors and got a lot of attention in multiple forums. It might have gone higher or for less if listed a different week, with other collectors trying to win it. Someone who really wanted it may have recently made another large purchase or had a recent expense of another nature that took them out of the bidding. There is no real rhyme or reason to it. I would have been very surprised if it went for less than $3500, and not that surprised if it went for around $8000. You gotta realize, most monster toys really do not go for that much, compared to other stuff.
Here's a $3350 Hot Wheels car.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Mattel-Hot-Wheels-Redline-Blue-Enamel-Ford-J-Car-Blister-Pack-MOC-red-line-/330724674266?item=330724674266&ViewItem=&category=1172&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Mattel-Hot-Wheels-Redline-Blue-Enamel-Ford-J-Car-Blister-Pack-MOC-red-line-/330724674266?item=330724674266&ViewItem=&category=1172&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
Here's a $6678 Barbie doll.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEORGEOUS-VINTAGE-1-1959-PONYTAIL-BARBIE-BOX-STAND-/140764522831?item=140764522831&ViewItem=&category=250&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEORGEOUS-VINTAGE-1-1959-PONYTAIL-BARBIE-BOX-STAND-/140764522831?item=140764522831&ViewItem=&category=250&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
And here's an $11,000 one from 1996!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1996-Convention-Barbie-and-the-Bandstand-SIGNED-BY-DICK-CLARK-RARE-HTF-/140829763229?item=140829763229&ViewItem=&category=15952&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1996-Convention-Barbie-and-the-Bandstand-SIGNED-BY-DICK-CLARK-RARE-HTF-/140829763229?item=140829763229&ViewItem=&category=15952&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Here's a $25,000 toy robot.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TELEVISION-ROBOT-with-box-KANTO-Japan-ca-1955-/150795869375?item=150795869375&ViewItem=&category=733&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TELEVISION-ROBOT-with-box-KANTO-Japan-ca-1955-/150795869375?item=150795869375&ViewItem=&category=733&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
It goes on and on...
Here's a $1175 glass jar to SPIT in.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-Amber-Glass-Iron-Pontil-Spittoon-Cuspidor-Spitter-Spitoon-bottle-/300688414587?item=300688414587&ViewItem=&category=895&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-Amber-Glass-Iron-Pontil-Spittoon-Cuspidor-Spitter-Spitoon-bottle-/300688414587?item=300688414587&ViewItem=&category=895&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
And here someone paid $888 for a couple buckets that people used for taking a dump.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Union-Steamship-Company-USSC-of-British-Columbia-Child-Chamber-Pot-VERY-RARE-/261094869395?item=261094869395&ViewItem=&category=14053&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Union-Steamship-Company-USSC-of-British-Columbia-Child-Chamber-Pot-VERY-RARE-/261094869395?item=261094869395&ViewItem=&category=14053&nma=true&si=lzHx3qEieMXvSr6qBKHFFVZLRCc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Does any one know how the victim was packed? Were these monsters sold individually, or as a set? If so, was the victim only part of the set?
Quote from: Haunted hearse on September 26, 2012, 06:56:47 PM
Does any one know how the victim was packed? Were these monsters sold individually, or as a set? If so, was the victim only part of the set?
The victim was only sold as part of this set. The Monsters were all available individually on cards.
George
Thanks for the different perspective toy ranch. I guess to each his/her own. Lol
Is this really the only set known to exist?
Great box art, these were carded also? Love the Hunchback from this series
Quote from: Toy Ranch on September 26, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8042/8027742860_8018068314_c.jpg)
I'd like to say that now I know what a $3,000 shipping box looks like. But I think the provenance is more valuable than the box or any of the figures. Any of these pieces individually, even the box, would not have sold for this kind of money. But knowing that this was the original set that actually came out of that box, all untouched, is what made it special.
I'm not a Lincoln completist. I don't even have a Mr. Rock.
I think I can safely say that I will never be owning any of these ever. Wowzers. As for the links to other things that Bobby showed. Double wowzers. Who the ehck pays almost $1,000.00 for buckets meant to hold....poopy? :o
this auction made me get off my butt and fix my mummy today. All I had was the head which is original, so I pushed it onto a dr mego glow hand body and cut some bandages out of an old flour sack, and wrapped him up, even painted some blood to give it the feel of the original. These bodies are very fragile, even more than the AHI figures so I dont think alot of them made it through the years, That also needs to be taken into consideration with this auction,The mummy being the one I see the least of. My frank, wolfman, and dracula are in great original condition. I think ill just make my own victim to add to my set.
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s492/jraysjunkyard/2012-09-26_17-50-06_390.jpg)
Very nice!! Do you have the Phantom and Hunchback?
Not yet, i eventually will though.
Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 26, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
this auction made me get off my butt and fix my mummy today. All I had was the head which is original, so I pushed it onto a dr mego glow hand body and cut some bandages out of an old flour sack, and wrapped him up, even painted some blood to give it the feel of the original. These bodies are very fragile, even more than the AHI figures so I dont think alot of them made it through the years, That also needs to be taken into consideration with this auction,The mummy being the one I see the least of. My frank, wolfman, and dracula are in great original condition. I think ill just make my own victim to add to my set.
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s492/jraysjunkyard/2012-09-26_17-50-06_390.jpg)
There's a Justin Beiber doll available that would be perfect. :P
How about a Karen Korpse Thriller doll for a victim instead. Would be better than the generic doll and definitely better than Justin Beiber. Don't know the scale though.
(http://www.x-entertainment.com/halloween/2006/thriller/5.jpg)
(http://www.x-entertainment.com/halloween/2006/thriller/6.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2315/2181147691_cb0c95e3c7.jpg)
I think a frizzy headed Victim went for over $2k by itself once. (frizzy due to being victimized, not because it was made that way). Following that logic, a mint victim would be a $3000 toy. That makes the other 4 and mailer box worth $2100, a bargain!
Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 26, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
this auction made me get off my butt and fix my mummy today. All I had was the head which is original, so I pushed it onto a dr mego glow hand body and cut some bandages out of an old flour sack, and wrapped him up, even painted some blood to give it the feel of the original. These bodies are very fragile, even more than the AHI figures so I dont think alot of them made it through the years, That also needs to be taken into consideration with this auction,The mummy being the one I see the least of. My frank, wolfman, and dracula are in great original condition. I think ill just make my own victim to add to my set.
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s492/jraysjunkyard/2012-09-26_17-50-06_390.jpg)
Beautiful F73! The Mummy looks great-just like the original! I really wish someone would reissue these and the AHI figures someday.
Lincoln Mummy, so awesome.
Amazing world when knockoffs are worth more than the real Uni Monster figures.
Which are the "real" Universal monster figures? The Aurora model kits?
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Quote from: Hepcat on September 27, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
Which are the "real" Universal monster figures? The Aurora model kits?
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The AHI figures.
The knockoffs had a lower production run, and fewer have survived, and plus there is enough collectors who want them, so that drives up a price. My 1959 hearse is far rarer then a 59 Convertable, but the 59 Convertable is going to get a much higher price from a car collector. Fortunately, I am much happier with my hearse, then I would be with a convertable. Now if I could just convince everybody how stupid it would be to own a "Haunted Hulk" if one showed up on Ebay.
AHI creature in the package at one time brought over $6000. Boxed dracula demands good money also. A jointed wrist mummy or wolfman mint in package would surprise you too. Or a set of "baby hand" AHI's ... Its all about condition, rarity, demand, and like Ray said, provenance. And i cant stress enough, condition, condition, condition. Mint is king in the world of collecting. And that set was mint, with package.
Quote from: Dr.Terror on September 27, 2012, 01:52:39 PMThe AHI figures.
So I take it the AHI figures were properly licensed by Universal and Lincoln just produced knock-offs of the AHI figures? (All these action figures came out well after my time and I never paid them any attention.)
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AHI Uni-Monsters were the quintessential Horror toys
of the 70s. The AHI Uni-Monsters looked the most realistic, unlike
Lincoln's Uni-Monsters.....and of course, the deliberate MEGO
Mad Monsters. With their cartoon distorted faces.
They all have their inherent charms, I really dig the Lincoln Phantom and Hunchback!
Quote from: jimm on October 04, 2012, 10:43:31 PM
They all have their inherent charms, I really dig the Lincoln Phantom and Hunchback!
:D
Quote from: Toy Ranch on September 27, 2012, 06:15:43 AM
I think a frizzy headed Victim went for over $2k by itself once. (frizzy due to being victimized, not because it was made that way). Following that logic, a mint victim would be a $3000 toy. That makes the other 4 and mailer box worth $2100, a bargain!
Was this the one?
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962988&toolid=10001&campid=5336850443&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F190735496536%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMESELX%3AIT%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m1555.l2649 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962988&toolid=10001&campid=5336850443&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F190735496536%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMESELX%3AIT%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m1555.l2649)
Gotta admit, if I had the victim I'd sell it too!
Quote from: jimm on October 06, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
Gotta admit, if I had the victim I'd sell it too!
A real collector wouldn't sell the victim. She was a part of the history of this set, and this may be the only complete set in existence.
Wouldn't break up set, but if I had a victim I'd sell it it, thanks though...
To be honest, I wouldn't want the victim doll either, apart from the fact it's part of a complete set, and keeping that together.
Its cool because of the idea behind it. To put a "victim" in a set of evil monsters for a child to play with is pure genius! Thats the beauty of this set! . Yeah , its a cheap doll. But they ALL are! These are cheap RACK toys guys. They are awesome because they were made cheap soley to be played with and destroyed. And most were. Not as a collector piece like todays sculpted statue "toys"..... kids saw these and actually took them out of the boxes and played with them, unlike the majority of todays monster toys. If i was 10 and got this set that victim woulda been in pieces and covered in a whole tube of fake blood by the end of the day! Then pieced back together to go through it again. How many do you think made it out. I would love to have a victim doll to go with my monster set, id never pay more than a couple hundred for her though. BUT man Talk about a great toy, This set is it.
If the victim were made by Lincoln and sold on a Lincoln card that had the word "VICTIM" scrawled across it in scary letters, with a scary painted scene behind her, I'd already own one, and would have paid whatever was necessary to get it. But this doll was not made by Lincoln. It was repurposed by the catalog company and inserted into a shipping box with four Lincoln monsters. For what it is, it's cool as heck. And it would be great to have one. But I wouldn't spend a bunch of money on it. I'm watching the Plaidstallions auction, but the price has already just about exceeded my level of interest.
I am slightly more interested in Mr. Rock. He's not a monster, but at least he was made by Lincoln and sold on a similar card. One of these days, I'm going to have a Mr. Rock. The only reason I haven't already gone hard after one is because he's not a monster. But I will get one, one of these days. There is one out there with my name on it.
:o that would be sweet! A carded victim! , you should make one Ray. You did a lincoln mummy card didnt you?
We have some talented people on this site. I mentioned in another thread regarding the Lincoln monster, that someone should create a fantasy package for a fasion doll, patterned after the graphics for a monster series, so there could be an "official" victim doll.
Quote from: Haunted hearse on October 06, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
We have some talented people on this site. I mentioned in another thread regarding the Lincoln monster, that someone should create a fantasy package for a fasion doll, patterned after the graphics for a monster series, so there could be an "official" victim doll.
That WOULD be very cool. ;D
Isn't the Victim doll just basically this doll with blonde hair and a different outfit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topper-Dawn-Friend-TINA-MOD-original-package-/230861097578?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2574485644780998767%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230861097578%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topper-Dawn-Friend-TINA-MOD-original-package-/230861097578?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2574485644780998767%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230861097578%26)
George
Quote from: ramsey37 on October 07, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
Isn't the Victim doll just basically this doll with blonde hair and a different outfit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topper-Dawn-Friend-TINA-MOD-original-package-/230861097578?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2574485644780998767%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230861097578%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topper-Dawn-Friend-TINA-MOD-original-package-/230861097578?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2574485644780998767%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230861097578%26)
George
.........and a little cheaper......
Quote from: 1975 on October 06, 2012, 09:49:46 AM
Was this the one?
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962988&toolid=10001&campid=5336850443&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F190735496536%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMESELX%3AIT%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m1555.l2649 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962988&toolid=10001&campid=5336850443&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F190735496536%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMESELX%3AIT%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m1555.l2649)
So, this victim is actually for sale. Kind of amazing that one would come up for sale right now. What a time for monster toys! Any speculation on the height this one will reach now that the love auction has been posted (yes, it is listed pretty well, not hidden).
edited for grammar. D'oh!
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 08, 2012, 08:52:12 AM
So, this victim is actually for sale. Kind of amazing that one would come up for sale right now. What a time for monster toys! Any speculation on how height this one will reach now that the love auction has been posted (yes, it is listed pretty well, not hidden).
I get why collectors want this doll, but $531.00 for what is essentially a chewed-up Dawn doll is just nuts.
George
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, we all collect something that people think we're nuts for purchasing. Especially the "Muggles". Maybe among our own kind we can remind ourselves of that and no, I ain't bidding, this is just my feelings on that judgemental tone. If spending 5 bills on this makes somebody happy, so be it. It makes more sense to me than gambling and other "grown up" pursuits.
Quote from: ramsey37 on October 08, 2012, 08:56:52 AM
I get why collectors want this doll, but $531.00 for what is essentially a chewed-up Dawn doll is just nuts.
George
This is one of those things that's just beyond the casual collector. I'm a amazed that it actually exists, especially given the Aurora kerfluffel with it's Victim. Think of all the cross-over audience for these figures. It's part of what drove the boxed set so high, what drove some of the first Lincoln figures out of the wood work so high - a decade ago some ome of the first well identified Mummy, Frankenstein's Monster, and Wolf Man sold for over a grand EACH. Loose. And used. - Monster fans (generally) love 'em, Mego and Mego-Like collectors love 'em, and lovers of obscure, rare, oddball, and knock of toys love 'em.
I get why these prices, beyond the simple economics, aren't for most people. It's a matter of taste. In this example, your taste for collecting. Had I the money, I'd buy it, as all those categories above speak to my tastes. I'm sure there are plenty of monster collectors wealthy enough to purchase this for 2K who wouldn't buy it for $200 (other than to turn a profit), but most of the reason I come here to the UMA, and have for so long, is to celebrate monsters. I can find people bitching about prices in line at the grocery store or gas pump. That's a big part of the reason I shop at odd hours. I'm tired of the cranks.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 08, 2012, 10:16:22 AMI'm tired of the cranks.
Amen, it's so thick, it almost feels like this is somehow personal. Collecting is supposed to be fun.
Hey, this is from the Palitoy / Plaid Stallions collection, Brian H., one of the guys beings the Mego mpMusum and the owner of the amazing Tomland Famous Monsters of Legend series two Glow in the Dark figures! He put up the incredible Tomland Monsters website http://tomlandmonsters.com/ (http://tomlandmonsters.com/) and shared photos and info of monster toys that no one I know had ever seen. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the seller of that Lincoln set looked it up on Brian's site http://lincolnmonsters.com/ (http://lincolnmonsters.com/). That's how I found out there was a Victim figure. http://www.plaidstallions.com/racktoys/lincolnvictim.html (http://www.plaidstallions.com/racktoys/lincolnvictim.html)
He's even publishing a book with tons of this sort of stuff in it! If the sale of this figure contributes to that, I hope it sells for huge money. I'm chomping at the bit for Brian's book. Between that and Kirk Hammett's absolute masterpiece, it's a very good year for monster toy information!
^Amen! Brian is good people. He's given a lot to the hobby, and keeps on giving.
Chris
Perhaps I should expand on my previous post: I understand why collectors want this doll, but given it's overall rough condition, the current bidding is higher than I would've expected. Put the pitchforks and torches away, guys. I'm expressing an opinion, same as you.
George
Quote from: 1975 on October 08, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
Amen, it's so thick, it almost feels like this is somehow personal. Collecting is supposed to be fun.
I don't mean that George is a crank, just the general negative attitude that is so easily accessed (so often unbidden) in society, but here on the UMA especially as of late. There were a number of posts about negative attitudes here in the last several months. The group used to have a more open tone to it, and celebrated monster toys and collecting 'em, whatever the bent. Now, quite often, it's people bagging on a purchase, or worse yet, the purchaser. That's part of why if find it hard to post many things, I can find plenty of people willing to display disdain and or ignorance of my passions in my physical surroundings. I feel stupid when I seek them out online. I mean, sure, everyone has opinions, and a lot of people have grudges, but by and large I just wanna celebrate the things I like and ignore the things I don't (skipping the Ida of societal issues which require my participation). I've never understood why some people love to stand in a crowd yelling "I hate crowds".
I digress, back to the regularly scheduled Victim!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190735496536 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190735496536)
Expressing an opinion on this auction has nothing to do with grudges or a negative attitude on my part regarding your purchases. How you choose to spend your money is completely your business and none of mine. My *only* point was about the condition of the toy.
George
It looks like FRANKENSTEIN had his way with this example...
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/LINCOLNVICTIM1.jpg)
I've bought so much stuff that people thought was crap, I don't care what people think about it. There are lots of us Monster collectors who come to this website late, but, have lots of experience buying what many would consider crap.
Brian is a stand-up guy and i hope he breaks the bank with this auction. We are all here to enjoy the hobby, so lets enjoy it. Lets be happy. I love all the people here and the knowledge i have acquired between this forum and the mego museum.
Now..whats the story with the Aurora victim? Please tell :)
Vinny
Quote from: ramsey37 on October 08, 2012, 10:36:46 AM
Perhaps I should expand on my previous post: I understand why collectors want this doll, but given it's overall rough condition, the current bidding is higher than I would've expected. Put the pitchforks and torches away, guys. I'm expressing an opinion, same as you.
George
Yes. I understand the appeal of this doll, but like you say, this poor girl looks like she went blender diving.
Quote from: IC4CHAMBERS on October 09, 2012, 08:23:10 AMNow..whats the story with the Aurora victim? Please tell :)
Aurora launched a series of kits called Monster Scenes in 1971:
Dr. Deadly
Frankenstein
Vampirella
The Victim
The Pain Parlor
The Hanging Cage
The Pendulum
Gruesome GoodiesWhile the new Monster Scenes line had promise at first glance as it featured the very popular Vampirella character, the quality of the Vampi sculpt was abysmal compared with Aurora's monster kit offerings from the early to mid-sixties. Worse yet, the kits were cheap Snap-Together models at which any self-respecting modeller sneered. Nor did the box artwork compare favourably with the earlier kits illustrated by James Bama. Sad for a company that had always been known for its box art.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Frankenstein.jpg) (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/FrankensteinVictim.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/victim.jpg) (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Vampi.jpg)
Aurora promoted these kits as "Rated X ... for Xcitement and once again ran ads in the pages of DC comics for the new kits. The advertisement featured Frankenstein and Vampirella drawn with a nicely visible camel toe securing a victim for Dr. Deadly:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/auroramonster-1.jpg)
While young boys were enthralled, their mothers were appalled by both the kits and the advertising campaign. The Hysterical Mothers of America Opposed to Just About Everything installed the fear of God in Aurora's new parent Nabisco by threatening to march topless in front of company headquarters and also boycott the company's cereal products. The Aurora executives who had approved the Monster Scenes kits were fired and the line was dropped.
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Quote from: Haunted hearse on October 06, 2012, 01:31:14 PMTo be honest, I wouldn't want the victim doll either, apart from the fact it's part of a complete set, and keeping that together.
I really like the Victim myself. I just wouldn't be inclined to pay more than a buck for her. But then again I collect neither the Lincoln nor the AHI figures.
:-\
Thanks hepcat
The Aurora Monster Scenes were issued in 1971. The Victim was reissued as Dr. Deadly's Daughter, presumably in Canada and possibly other markets, but the line was not successful. It's worth pointing out that in the last few years Moebius reissued the Monster Scenes; these reissues are all over eBay.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on October 09, 2012, 12:15:46 PM
The Aurora Monster Scenes were issued in 1971. The Victim was reissued as Dr. Deadly's Daughter, presumably in Canada and possibly other markets, but the line was not successful. It's worth pointing out that in the last few years Moebius reissued the Monster Scenes; these reissues are all over eBay.
They didnt have time to be successful. They were protested as being toys that transformed the youths of America into potential serial killers....so they were scrapped shortly thereafter. Then there was the sinkhole in Vampirella's crotch. Which amazingly resembled a camel's...um...toe. :angel: Until Moebius re-issued these things they were really expensive. Now---like all kits that get re-popped, they have waned a little. More on the scandal:
http://www.thepartspit.com/htdocs/MONSTER_SCENES.html (http://www.thepartspit.com/htdocs/MONSTER_SCENES.html)
Quote from: Toy Ranch on September 26, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
I dunno, it seemed like a $4500 to $6000 piece.
This is the catalog page.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/8027746285_9c1ebe0cc9_c.jpg)
Here are some boxed ones. Also extremely rare (and not mine, posted with permission of the owner). Some are the only ones known to exist, and seeing them together is a treat. These will each run you at least what that whole set sold for.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8042/8027742860_8018068314_c.jpg)
I notice there's not a Mummy lincoln box. I wonder if this person is the same I bought a Mummy box from years ago??
Wow, do you still own the boxed Mummy? I've seen the Hunchback at a toy show, that's about it for me.
Oh yeah still have it. My best piece. I had a lincoln mummy as a kid and my mom threw him out cause he was unraveled. She never threw things out, this was the only thing! Later, I had a lincoln mummy on my Christmas list (this was in the toy shop magazine days, before ebay) and my wife got me one and it came with a box! I was like, "Wha? Box? Mine originally came on a card!" The dealer told her that it was a european box and the top was cut off because if you collected them all, you could send in for something. I wonder what? Anyway, at that time I didn't have any knowledge of them. They've really only caught on in the last ten years, right? I consider the lincoln mummy to be the greatest monster figure made. But I'm biased!
That is a fantastic story! It amazes me to think what the mail in offer would be. The Hunchback I saw was also missing the top flap.
I also had a first version ahi dracula and frank that my brother threw in the fireplace! Not much luck with monster figures! Later scored a first version SET of Ahi's for $50 cause the guy thought they were remco's (still a steal for remcos)! A lincoln dracula w/o box for $75 was my last big score in the monster dept. Jeez, this is almost 20 years ago now! Puke!
Ray Castile was like my God back then because of his monster toy articles in that toy mag. When I got internet access, his toy site was the first website I saw AND he was the first person I emailed. When he posted a pic of my mummy box on his site, I thought I was the king of monster collectors. Haha. Finding out about his coffin joe business was even more unbelievable as I had a pic of coffin joe and I together and I was already a huge coffin joe fan! Haha, I've spent my life trying to impress Ray Castile!! I love ebay but NOTHING beats the thrill of the hunt back in the old days.
I remember the hunt and seeing stuff you'd never seen before at shows. As much as those days could be frustrating (arrogant sellers, crazy prices), I do miss getting a new toy mag and having my mind blown with all the stuff I didn't know I wanted.
Quote from: Stoneytombs on October 10, 2012, 12:38:03 PM
Ray Castile was like my God back then because of his monster toy articles in that toy mag. When I got internet access, his toy site was the first website I saw AND he was the first person I emailed. When he posted a pic of my mummy box on his site, I thought I was the king of monster collectors. Haha. Finding out about his coffin joe business was even more unbelievable as I had a pic of coffin joe and I together and I was already a huge coffin joe fan! Haha, I've spent my life trying to impress Ray Castile!! I love ebay but NOTHING beats the thrill of the hunt back in the old days.
I am very impressed! I salute you.
Quote from: 1975 on October 10, 2012, 06:20:21 PM
I remember the hunt and seeing stuff you'd never seen before at shows. As much as those days could be frustrating (arrogant sellers, crazy prices....
Do you think then that the price of monster related toys/collectibles has dropped in general since the Toy Shop days in the nineties?
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Quote from: Hepcat on October 11, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
Do you think then that the price of monster related toys/collectibles has dropped in general since the Toy Shop days in the nineties?
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Your smiley suggests you don't agree but I do think prices have dropped, yes. It's become more based on demand. There is inflation and the popularity of items/genres has changed, so it's not apples to apples.
Dealers used to just "make up" prices and honestly, you weren't a position to haggle half the time. There was a chance you'd have to work very hard to find another one if you didn't buy it then and there. Nowadays I've seen everything at least twice.
Quote from: 1975 on October 11, 2012, 01:02:39 PMYour smiley suggests you don't agree but I do think prices have dropped, yes.
My smiley was just a question mark. I rather suspect that prices have dropped a bit but I was interested in your observations as well.
;)
In the 90s, I bought any carded Lincoln/AHI monster I could find, no matter what condition or price. Each one I bought was the first and only one I had seen, and I didn't know if I would ever find another.
I think prices on these things spiked in the late 90s, receded, then swelled again a few years ago. I think the market on this genre is a little soft right now, except for the most uncommon items. I think the really rare stuff is more expensive than ever.
Quote from: Hepcat on October 11, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
Do you think then that the price of monster related toys/collectibles has dropped in general since the Toy Shop days in the nineties?
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I agree with Ray that prices are softer now than they were in the 1990's with the exception of the ultra rare pieces. I only went to one toy show in the late 80's (I had a friend who was into baseball cards and I helped him with his booth...I was 15 at the time). At that show I remember seeing the mini remco monsters and some of these dealers were asking $10 for a carded one, and I thought to myself "Damn! These things were on clearance at Toys R US for 99 cents a couple years ago".
There was only 1 or 2 shops in the Detroit/Ann Arbor area that sold vintage toys, and I quickly discovered where those shops were (Dave's Comics in Ann Arbor and Royal Oak, and Time Travelers near Royal Oak). I went to these shops in the early 1990's and those same carded remco monsters were pushing between $50-$100 (in a period of 3 years or so since the first toy show I attended). I've seen a lot of these carded remco mini monsters sell for $30-$50 online recently (granted they do go higher from time to time). I also see a lot of people asking really high prices (the buy it now) for loose AHI monsters like The Wolfman and Frankenstein for $150-$200 a pop, and then you will see someone start one at a reasonable no reserve price, and they sell for $50-$100 each.
Quote from: raycastile on October 11, 2012, 06:44:30 PM
In the 90s, I bought any carded Lincoln/AHI monster I could find, no matter what condition or price. Each one I bought was the first and only one I had seen, and I didn't know if I would ever find another.
Are carded ones scarcer than boxed ones then?
???
Quote from: Hepcat on October 11, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
Are carded ones scarcer than boxed ones then?
???
No.
Quote from: raycastile on October 11, 2012, 06:44:30 PM
In the 90s, I bought any carded Lincoln/AHI monster I could find, no matter what condition or price. Each one I bought was the first and only one I had seen, and I didn't know if I would ever find another.
I forget where I was, may have been Chicago in the 1990s and a dealer had a full set of loose Lincolns. He wanted $300 a figure. Too rich for my blood.
His logic: "Have you ever seen a full set?"
I had not and went about my business. In the last 30 days, I've seen close to a full set, two victims and that window boxed AHI Dracula. How times have changed.
Here's a good link on these Lincoln figures:
Lincoln Monsters - Plaid Stallions (http://www.plaidstallions.com/racktoys/lincolnmonsters.html)
Quote from: Plaid StallionsThe Lincoln Monsters are sometimes dismissed as "Mego Knockoffs" which they kind of are but they should also be recognized as the charming and fun monster toys they are.
These eight inch Mego inspired figures were made in the mid 1970's by toy manufacturer Lincoln International. The Monsters saw distribution in the United Kingdom, Europe andNorth America. Variations of both the packaging and figures themselves exist which implies that several runs were made.
cl:)