Whats the last song you listened to today??

[Mord]

Hep, I must respectfully disagree. Sid's half-hearted version of Sinatra's(Anka's) "My Way" was one of their throwaway tracks. It was done for Julian Temple's "Great Rock n Roll Swindle" film....

I see what you mean. What a rude, horrible person I am. I am profoundly sorry, Hep. You're still my homie, bro.

[Mord]

I disagree. The Sex Pistols cover of My Way was a satire of Frank Sinatra's, and a good one. Satires have always been an accepted part of art and literature. "Weird Al" Yankovic has built a musical career satirizing the chart hits of other artists.

I get satire. The Pistols were not about that. Satire rarely leads to great music. Btw, Alfred Yankovic was a school buddy of my brother and mine. I played "shoebox" drums (my brother played guitar) on an early cassette demo he made and sent to wierdo disc jockey, Dr. Demento in the early '70s. All three of us went to our first Elton John concert (Hollywood Bowl '72 or '73). He was valedictorian at Lynwood High (where we met). You don't have to school me on "Weird Al". Anything else I can shoot down for you? You're welcome.

[Hepcat]

...but I did see the Stooges and the New York Dolls at the Whisky in 1973. Does that count?

Pre-punk, but I have no problem counting it.

So, yeah, I think I have a little punk cred.

Okay. Fine, then you do have punk cred. Why though were you compelled to question mine first? And why have you not now conceded that I have some?

Btw, I was very polite when I mentioned that Sid's "My Way" was not "The Pistols at their very best".

And so was my response. I said that for My Way the Sex Pistols added a much better bass player and shifted Sid Vicious over to take on Johnny Rotten's role as the singer/front man.

You just can't stand to be wrong.

About what? This discussion was about the Sex Pistols, Sid Vicious and My Way before you dragged the whole gamut of our musical tastes into it. Why was that necessary? I can't see any reason for it other than to insult and annoy me.

I do love your cute little posts, though. Hint...brevity is an asset.

Brevity!!! Speaking of brevity, introducing a dozen unrelated topics doesn't constitute "brief", even if you jam every word into one convoluted paragraph!

I get worked up because punk has always been important to me. You, on the other hand, are trying to fit in. The last few selections were punk, so you felt left out. I commend you for trying to try to get it, but you're still clueless. That's ok. Just dont pretend you know more than I do about a music that actually matters to me.  Calling punk "mindless rebellion" is your condescending view of the entire scene. Rock was dying, punk gave it temporary life support. They were tired of jam bands, country rock, prog rock, bubble gum pap...you, know, the music you like. The punks I know are intelligent, articulate people. Rock is not very musical itself. What you're saying is the same things my parents said about the Stones, the Who, Beatles etc.  What are your other fave punk bands? Lemme guess...Paul Revere and the Raiders, the Buckinghams, the Gordon Lightfoots, Fleetwood Mac? Btw, the songs you posted were throwaway cover versions included in a post break-up soundtrack album (due to Lydon leaving the band). Warner Brothers Records did anything to try to save the band because of their investment and the bands potential to make them money. Sid was NEVER onstage fronting the band. I knew when you went offline for awhile you were desperately looking up anything to counter my valid argument. Funny, I feel your beloved Cream were "inconsequential". A bunch of clowns playing half hour solos. Believe me, I've seen you plenty "worked up" about people treading on your "inconsequential" musical tastes.

I'm still working through all the extraneous topics you dragged into the discussion.

And speaking of paragraphs, use them! There's a reason we were taught to use paragraphs in grade school. Different idea, different paragraph!

[Mord]

 Paragraphs? Not very punk is it. I write how I choose to write. I'm thinking of going full Kerouac on you and avoid all structure. I write whatever is on my mind in whatever order I decide. You are free to ignore anything and everything. As a matter of fact, just push that "ignore" button (if it bothers you). I will continue writing "my way". Btw, proto-punk, punk, post- punk....I've loved it all, as it happened. You have no punk cred. Stick with bubble gum. You are more knowledgeable on that. You could talk circles around me on that. Yay, Paul Revere and the Buckinghams (?). I imagine your voice would sound like the dog on "Family Guy" mixed with Mr. Burns on "The Simpsons" .
                                                                                           Am
                                                                                              I
                                                                                    cOrrEcT
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Btw, btw, btw, you are the type
      Of persoN who SHould be TaKiNg DRUUUUUUUGGGGGS (so good for you).   


Btw, what did you think of that terrible SCREAM reBOOT? You liked it, right?


I think Hersheys is much tastier (and cheaperer) than that Pretentious Lady Godiva
                       
crap.
Cheers, mate.

[Hepcat]

Rock was dying, punk gave it temporary life support.

I'm not entirely sure that rock was "dying", but punk was certainly a much needed reaction against the excesses that had crept into rock - the overblown prog with over-the-top orchestration e.g. Yes, Electric Light Orchestra, the make-up laden glam rock bands, e.g. Kiss, the glam rock stadium bands, e.g. Queen. Excessive all! Punk was an attempt to bring back high-energy rock and the two and a half minute fast tempo singles that had dominated Top Forty stations in the mid-sixties. Punk rock was younger kids' rebellion against their older siblings and to that which their older siblings' music had evolved (prog, glam, stadium rock).

They were tired of jam bands, country rock, prog rock, bubble gum pap...you, know, the music you like.

Huh?! What the bloody hell?



Screw that.

Jam Bands - A rip-off. Play your songs. I don't care for your noodling.

Country Rock - Don't like it.

Prog Rock - In general I liked the progressive rock of the late sixties, e.g. Beatles, Rolling Stones, Who, Kinks, Doors, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Cream, Animals, Jethro Tull, Santana, Jefferson Airplane, Vanilla Fudge, Led Zeppelin, but I didn't like the prog of the seventies, e.g. Genesis, Yes, ELO, Queen.

bubble gum pap - Didn't buy any, but neither did it prompt me to immediately hit the channel change button when it came on the radio. But the punk rock bands were trying to return the simple, two and a half minute single to rock, remember?

What are your other fave punk bands? Lemme guess...Paul Revere and the Raiders, the Buckinghams, the Gordon Lightfoots, Fleetwood Mac?

They may fit your definition of punk but not mine.

Paul Revere and the Raiders - They recorded some good songs. Though not among my favourites, I like them.

Buckinghams - Decent band. I appreciate them now more than I did in the 1960's.

Gordon Lightfoot - Recorded some very good material indeed, e.g. Black Day in July, Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, etc.

Fleetwood Mac - With Peter Green they were a fabulous blues-rock band. After he imploded they were an unlistenable middle-of-the-road pop band closely akin to Paul McCartney & Wings.

Funny, I feel your beloved Cream were "inconsequential". A bunch of clowns playing half hour solos.

I let Cream's extended live recordings slide because they were blues-based and I'm a huge blues-rock fan. I really like most of their studio recordings.

I knew when you went offline for awhile you were desperately looking up anything to counter my valid argument.

Sorry for researching my comments and putting some thought into my responses.... 

...I've seen you plenty "worked up" about people treading on your "inconsequential" musical tastes.

Not true! I can discuss/debate music at length. I get "worked up" only by intended insults.

Incidentally, if you want short replies, why drag multiple other bands and so many off-topic subjects into your posts?

[marsattacks666]

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[Hepcat]

Paragraphs? Not very punk is it. I write how I choose to write.

Ahhhhh, the stream of consciousness approach, is it? Isn't that more of a hippie thing than punk though?

You have no punk cred.

Screw you then.

I think Hersheys is much tastier (and cheaperer) than that Pretentious Lady Godiva crap.

Well on that point we agree anyway.

[Mord]

 White guys "playing the blues" is like Vanilla Ice and Macklemore  doing rap. Short and focused enough?

[Mord]

 Come on, YOU LIVE FOR THIS!


    You're
       Loving all thIS.

[Hepcat]

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I love those drive-in snack bar promos!

[Hepcat]

White guys "playing the blues" is like Vanilla Ice and Macklemore  doing rap.

Hmmmm.....

Robert Johnson - Love in Vain

Always loved the Stones version. This original version is a thing of beauty. I can't believe it's over 80 years old.

[Mord]

 I'm such a hippocrite, am I not? Very punk. You realize, I do this all for your entertainment. Do you think it was easy writing that last, long, incoherent rant? I had to uncorrect my auto-correct constantly. You should be more appreciative. Ungrateful bastard.

[Mord]

You don't like jam bands that noodle? What the hell was Cream? Long guitar solos, half hour drum fests...the very definition of "jam". I only liked Jack Bruce (lovely voice). Clapton is the most overrated dullard of a guitarist, ever.
    You don't like bubble gum, yet you like the Buckinghams and the Raiders. Hmm, I guess we have different definition of bubble gum.

[Hepcat]

You don't like jam bands that noodle? What the hell was Cream? Long guitar solos, half hour drum fests...the very definition of "jam".

Only on their live releases. Here are the track lengths on their Disraeli Gears LP:

1."Strange Brew"   2:46
2."Sunshine of Your Love"   4:10
3."World of Pain"   3:03
4."Dance the Night Away"   3:34
5."Blue Condition" 3:29

1. "Tales of Brave Ulysses"   2:46
2."SWLABR"   2:32
3."We're Going Wrong" 3:26
4. "Outside Woman Blues" 2:24
5."Take It Back"   3:05
6. "Mother's Lament" 1:47

You don't like bubble gum, yet you like the Buckinghams and the Raiders. Hmm, I guess we have different definition of bubble gum.

You're conflating the singles oriented bands of the mid-sixties with bubble gum bands. Paul Revere & the Raiders and the Buckinghams were legitimate bands that well pre-dated the bubble gum "bands" of the late sixties, e.g. Archies, Ohio Express, 1910 Fruitgum Company. The bubble gum bands of the late sixties were in most cases just random collections of studio musicians brought together to record a single:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9nE2spOw_o

[Mord]

 Thanks for the enlightenment. Btw, Kerouac was not hippie era. He was from the Beat movement (50s). His "On the Road" was as punk as you got back then. If you like catchy pop, listen to the Box Tops, or Big Star (Alex Chilton bands). The Replacements were his biggest disciples and great as well. I can't believe you're still awake. Don't you people have lights out there?