Universal Movie Monsters-Marx

Started by zombiehorror, January 28, 2009, 01:59:27 PM

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zombiehorror

Any more info on this package of Marx Monsters?



I believe this (or one like it) was just listed on Ebay last week with no takers.  Then this one shows up and sells for $168.50!!

Mike Scott

Quote from: zombiehorror on January 28, 2009, 01:59:27 PM
Any more info on this package of Marx Monsters?

Probably from the Uncle Gilbert reissues of the '90s.
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fmofmpls

Weird. Haven't seen that before. I kinda doubt that's from the Uncle Gilbert release. Those figures were released  commercially and more professionally on a slick card. Why would they go amateurish with the box? 

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Mike Scott

Quote from: fmofmpls on January 28, 2009, 02:17:23 PM
I kinda doubt that's from the Uncle Gilbert release. Those figures were released  commercially and more professionally on a slick card.

Didn't they also come as a set with paints? The "Ready to Paint" on the box made me think of that.
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Quote from: Mike Scott on January 28, 2009, 02:36:52 PM
Didn't they also come as a set with paints? The "Ready to Paint" on the box made me think of that.

Yes, they did, but that box was a glossy colored box with high production values compared to that other box. The companies' name by the way was Uncle Milton; not Uncle Gilbert.   ;)





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Mike Scott

Quote from: fmofmpls on January 28, 2009, 03:20:34 PM
but that box was a glossy colored box

Oh yeh, now I 'member it! Could the other box be a case that these came in?
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Mike Scott

Here's some of the figs he was selling with the box. They kinda look Uncle Gilberty.

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Getter_1

I saw that auction.  The one I saw said it was a fan-produced box. 

Does anybody have the link to the auction?

Mike Scott

Quote from: Getter_1 on January 28, 2009, 06:40:17 PM
The one I saw said it was a fan-produced box. 

Does anybody have the link to the auction?

You can find the latest one by searching "Universal Movie Monsters" in the completed auctions. It doesn't say anything about being fan produced. The guy says he's had it for 25 yrs and they are 1963 originals, 'cause it says so on the bottoms of the toys. (What more proof do you need!?)

I couldn't find the earlier auction.
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The Phantom Creep

That is definitely fan produced. I've seen some other ones that look just as horrible, probably from the same seller. There is a really poorly done Creature play set one that pops up every now and then.

In the completed auction he says he's had the figures for over 25 years, not the box.
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zombiehorror

I was assuming the box was a fan.....or should I say "scam" produced item but wasn't sure.  Obviously the figures are the reissues and not 60's originals as the auction states.

The buyer in this case was in no way a Monster expert judging by his bidding history (lot's of sports stuff) but the only other bidder in the auction has a lot of bidding on toys in general and he bumped the auction all the way up to $166.  As always it pays to do some investigating before jumping on something that you may think is a one of a original item, those 6 monsters could have easily been picked up for around $50 or so.

Dr.Terror

Also Cream colored Marx WITH the Marx info are repops.   Cream colored with NO Marx info are gilbert. Also much less detail.


I'll bet the same guy who does the other Fantasy marx boxes did this, but hey, using the Gilber box graphics you could make a cool custom display box.
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This is why publically publishing Soaky bottle tags, etc. is dangerous to every collector.

Here on this page is the perfect example- a debate whether this box is real or not, and it is all conjecture. Now imagine the future problems with auctions of items that we know exist. Like the Samjo junk, the ebuyer has to keep a running tally of what has been faked and what hasn't, and the likelihood of what you are seeing is real or repro. Basically, it f*cks up the hobby, putting it bluntly.

If a Soaky with a tag pops up now on ebay, no one will know from the photo whether it is real or repro. That's dangerous for guys that want to buy the originals. Very dangerous. Numbers, etc. can easily be photoshopped out. That is why this stuff needs to be traded privately and not published on the net.

And yes, authentic loose mint/near mint tags on Soakys exist.   

Mike Scott

Quote from: The Phantom Creep on January 28, 2009, 06:56:20 PM
That is definitely fan produced.

For what purpose, I mean, what is it suposed to be?
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Mike Scott

Quote from: Monster Bob on January 28, 2009, 08:35:23 PM
This is why publically publishing Soaky bottle tags, etc. is dangerous to every collector.  

Somehow I don't think the crooks are sitting on their hands, waiting for me to make repros for them. Vitually anyone can do it!
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