Alton Rubber Giant Frankenstein Jiggler

Started by Toy Ranch, July 12, 2012, 09:32:02 AM

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Monster Bob

Quote from: Dr.Terror on July 25, 2012, 01:20:10 AM
A couple hundred dollars is alot of cash for a "vintage" item with no presidence , That's why I'm a bit shocked long time collectors would buy them without having some sort of solid evidence.

Agreed, which is why I have never bit on one, even though I like the primitive look of it. The first one I saw publicly scrutinized was Andy's, here, which is where I assume talk of this item started, grew and festered. Even if it WAS proven vintage, it's not an $800 deal to me, but $50-$100 as is, yeah, just as an oddity.

BTW, when Richard described the composition of the figure (how it's made), that is another huge red flag. If this were made by a rubber company, it would be a pretty, one piece cast out-of-the-mold hunk of rubber, not the layered, lumpy "garage" monstrosity that it is. A piece wouldn't even make it past quality control.

Toy Ranch

One cool thing about it...  if your brakes go out on your car, you can toss it in front of your tire to use as a wheel chock.

fmofmpls

Quote from: Richard on July 25, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
But unless someone comes up with the creator of this figure or a much better history, I'm sticking with garage kit item.

I think that's a safe bet. Unless someone comes up with substantial evidence that says otherwise, I'm going to label this item as a UHOR - unidentified hunk of rubber. Cool and confusing at the same time.
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poseablemonster

Quote from: Toy Ranch on July 27, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
One cool thing about it...  if your brakes go out on your car, you can toss it in front of your tire to use as a wheel chock.
Good call, Bobby.  I am going to keep this thing in my trunk in case I need one.  It's value is now significantly less than purchasing a wheel chock.

Scatter

Love the detective work on this item.........very interesting reading, thanks guys!! Bottom line for me is simply the innately quirky coolness of this toy. Provenance or no, it's irresistable!
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Mord

I dunno, I still think a 5th grade art class could do a better sculpt.

Toy Ranch

Quote from: Mord on July 30, 2012, 07:02:38 PM
I dunno, I still think a 5th grade art class could do a better sculpt.

Some of the best sculpts ever, as far as toys go (not model kits, but toys) are the 8" Sideshow figures. Vintage monster toys are mostly crude. Most not as crude as this one, but crude.  I think it's one of the coolest monster toys around. If you are a fan of accurate sculpts, you probably are not a fan of vintage monster toys. Most vintage ones do not have accurate sculpts. Many of us who collect and love vintage monster toys don't care for new monster toys, or their accurate sculpts.  If you don't "get it", you're kinda lucky. Vintage monster toys are often very expensive, and this big, crude hunk of rubber selling for almost $900 is a good example.  I look at this toy and see something beautiful and wonderful. If you see something a 5th grade art class could do better, then you might be able to pick up a Sideshow figure for $10 and be just as happy with it as members here who paid hundreds for this toy, and consider it to be a gem of their collection.

There was a time that you could share  your cool old monster toys at the UMA and get support and kudos from fellow monster fans and collectors. Seems like it's more common these days for you to share something and have other UMA members piss all over it.  Lately, when I think about sharing something I'm excited about, I might start to post it at the UMA, and then remember that I'll probably be disappointed with the result of that.  I've picked up what I feel are some really cool monster toys lately, but not gonna post them here.   If I did, in no time they would be common, and worthless.  It might come off like I'm picking on Mord here, but it's not just Mord, it's others as well.  One of the coolest things about the UMA for me, was seeing all the great stuff others found for their collections, and sharing my own.  That is about over.


Monster Bob


Something that is very strange about this figure is how good the head and face are sculpted, compared to the rest of the figure; the head (as pointed out earlier) is just great. Now how can that be?


Scatter

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Quote from: Toy Ranch on July 30, 2012, 10:11:15 PM
Some of the best sculpts ever, as far as toys go (not model kits, but toys) are the 8" Sideshow figures. Vintage monster toys are mostly crude. Most not as crude as this one, but crude.  I think it's one of the coolest monster toys around. If you are a fan of accurate sculpts, you probably are not a fan of vintage monster toys. Most vintage ones do not have accurate sculpts. Many of us who collect and love vintage monster toys don't care for new monster toys, or their accurate sculpts.  If you don't "get it", you're kinda lucky. Vintage monster toys are often very expensive, and this big, crude hunk of rubber selling for almost $900 is a good example.  I look at this toy and see something beautiful and wonderful. If you see something a 5th grade art class could do better, then you might be able to pick up a Sideshow figure for $10 and be just as happy with it as members here who paid hundreds for this toy, and consider it to be a gem of their collection.

There was a time that you could share  your cool old monster toys at the UMA and get support and kudos from fellow monster fans and collectors. Seems like it's more common these days for you to share something and have other UMA members piss all over it.  Lately, when I think about sharing something I'm excited about, I might start to post it at the UMA, and then remember that I'll probably be disappointed with the result of that.  I've picked up what I feel are some really cool monster toys lately, but not gonna post them here.   If I did, in no time they would be common, and worthless.  It might come off like I'm picking on Mord here, but it's not just Mord, it's others as well.  One of the coolest things about the UMA for me, was seeing all the great stuff others found for their collections, and sharing my own.  That is about over.

I dunno Bobby........I'm here as much as anybody, and I don't see that. I've seen a bunch of "OOOOOing" and "AAAAHhhhing" right here in this thread in fact. There doesn't have to be unanimity to mark true appreciation. Near total unanimity should be sufficient, and that's pretty much what happens here. Except for Keanu movies.  ;)

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Dr.Terror

Quote from: Scatter on July 30, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
I dunno Bobby........I'm here as much as anybody, and I don't see that. I've seen a bunch of "OOOOOing" and "AAAAHhhhing" right here in this thread in fact. There doesn't have to be unanimity to mark true appreciation. Near total unanimity should be sufficient, and that's pretty much what happens here. Except for Keanu movies.  ;)

I think it's more about the crude vintage stuff getting crapped on more than usual, when not long ago vintage stuff garnered the most praise, and IMO deserve it.   The vintage stuff was never meant for nit picking adult collectors, they were meant for innocent kids to play with.   Where coolness is more important than quality of the sculpt.  It seems modern collectibles have gained more attention.   Again, IMO, only because they much easier to find and create an instant impressive collection volume wise.

I really dig this guy mainly because of the crude, but obvious sculpt of Glenn Strange.  Not detailed, but the likeness is there.   It's just alot of $$ for me until i know exactly what it is.     

And post your vintage stuff, there are always at the very least a handful of us that really appreciate them.
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Haunted hearse

If there was a history on this figure, you wouldn't be getting all these critical comments.  That the figure's origin is a mystery, and people are trying to figure that out has more to do with that then usual.  Mr. Machine, for example, is honestly a stupid looking robot.  However, my brother had one, and that makes it cool to me, because it was something I remember as a child.  Obviously, if this is an older toy, they didn't make that many of them, or some of the people on this site would remember it.  I'm glad that whomever found this figure has posted it, and it would be interesting if we could eventually learn it's origin. 
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Scatter

Quote from: Dr.Terror on July 30, 2012, 11:20:42 PM
I think it's more about the crude vintage stuff getting crapped on more than usual, when not long ago vintage stuff garnered the most praise, and IMO deserve it.   The vintage stuff was never meant for nit picking adult collectors, they were meant for innocent kids to play with.   Where coolness is more important than quality of the sculpt.  It seems modern collectibles have gained more attention.   Again, IMO, only because they much easier to find and create an instant impressive collection volume wise.

I really dig this guy mainly because of the crude, but obvious sculpt of Glenn Strange.  Not detailed, but the likeness is there.   It's just alot of $$ for me until i know exactly what it is.     

And post your vintage stuff, there are always at the very least a handful of us that really appreciate them.

Hey, I'm with you. I'll take this vintage hunka tire over anything Sideshow offers. For me, the charm of it is in the fact that it was played with 50 years ago (well, possibly.....hopefully), and stood sentinel over some kid's bedroom while he was at school, and sat on his lap while he watched "Chiller Theater", and kept his comic books from blowing across the room when the autumn wind whipped through the open windows. It's not the accuracy of the sculpt, but the link to an era that makes vintage toys irresistible to me.

But, that's not everybody's position, and that's OK too. But it's a misrepresentation to say it's just a handful of us here who appreciate vintage toys. It's the vast majority of those who make the UMA home. It may not be so outside our internet enclave, but here is the only place that matters anyway.  :D
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Scatter

Quote from: Haunted hearse on July 30, 2012, 11:57:25 PM
If there was a history on this figure, you wouldn't be getting all these critical comments.  That the figure's origin is a mystery, and people are trying to figure that out has more to do with that then usual.  Mr. Machine, for example, is honestly a stupid looking robot.  However, my brother had one, and that makes it cool to me, because it was something I remember as a child.  Obviously, if this is an older toy, they didn't make that many of them, or some of the people on this site would remember it.  I'm glad that whomever found this figure has posted it, and it would be interesting if we could eventually learn it's origin.

Agreed............and I'm loving the detective work!
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Gillfan

Quote from: Haunted hearse on July 30, 2012, 11:57:25 PM
... Mr. Machine, for example, is honestly a stupid looking robot. ...


I'm not going to stand here and let you bad mouth one of the finest robot toys of all time.

horror1o1

I like this figure cause it's odd and when all is said and done it still looks like frankenstein.  :)
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