Glenn Strange Candy bucket Question

[Ghost]

Another thing I have always pondered is why are the Head Speaker and Halloween Bucket made by two different companies? Or was it the same company that changed names? Of was it one company bought out by another? Or ...?

Good question, both from NJ.

Did Clinton make anything else besides the Strange Frank Bucket?

Clinton Plastics Co. - Glenn Strange Bucket, Glenn Strange Lamp, Glenn Strange Candy Dish, Skull Stick in orange, Skull Stick in white, and small plastic pumpkin scissors grabber.





Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company

[frankenstein73]

Any thing to do with these?

Yes, thanks Adam.  those are the ones I was thinking of! Not sideshow but I knew I had seen something with other buckets couldn't quite remember, it was lost somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind. I do remember seeing that sample sheet now though, those would have been so cool....how could they not have been made?

[frankenstein73]

Glenn strange candy dish? Whats that look like?

[Mord]

(I just can't bring myself to use those stupid little Happy Faces in my posts.)

[Monsters For Sale]

...Clinton Plastics Co. - Glenn Strange Bucket, Glenn Strange Lamp, Glenn Strange Candy Dish, Skull Stick in orange, Skull Stick in white, and small plastic pumpkin scissors grabber....
Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company...

They also made a Frankenstein light without the base.  The Frank with a base has a hole between head and base and is all cast as one piece.  The sans base light's head has no hole underneath - just like the bucket.

[Ghost]

I far as I can tell there are these variations of the same sculpt:

Strange candy bucket for trick or treating
Strange lamp with base small hole for light
Strange lamp without base small hole for light
Strange candy bucket with base (i.e. candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters no carry strap with pedestal to rest on) large hole on top

[Monsters For Sale]

I far as I can tell there are these variations of the same sculpt:

1. Strange candy bucket for trick or treating
2. Strange lamp with base small hole for light
3. Strange lamp without base small hole for light
4. Strange candy bucket with base (i.e. candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters as it would not be easy to carry
    around) large hole on top

I've never seen Number 4.

Does anyone have a picture?

[Ghost]

One showed up a few years ago it looks pretty identical to the regular lamp with base but the head had the same large opening as the candy bucket. There was some speculation of production error or product demo or mock up, and even that someone cut the top off. I am trying to find the picture.

And now to further muddy the waters, there is a head lamp on EBay with the proper pedestal base, but the head is open like a candy bucket
http://bit.ly/1dghkt3

The ebay link is old and the picture no longer visible. It was listed as a candy pail.

[Ghost]

I've never seen Number 4.

Does anyone have a picture?

I found it ironically in the one of your old posts!

It sold for $670.00.












That last picture shows pretty clearly that the head and base are molded as one continuous piece.

I was surprised that it did not bring a couple hundred more.

[Monsters For Sale]

"Strange", indeed.

It has a base and hole in back for light insertion - just like a regular light.

But it also has the big hole in the top and a rivet that indicates a handle was once attached - just like a regular bucket.

Weird.

[Hepcat]

The only references to hysterical mothers forcing industry change or selections or the availability of any monster item or scarcity because of motherly disapproval are your own posts. The only substantiated incidence being the Aurora Monster Scenes model kits.

Why are you limiting your sample to monster items? What about the concerted effort to get metal lunch boxes banned because they could be used as "weapons"? What about the disappearance/banning of candy cigarettes? Toy guns? Projectiles? What about the disappearance of the word "sugar" from the names of cereals, e.g. Sugar Pops becoming Corn Pops? For that matter, have you tried recently to find good old-fashioned gum such as Dentyne or Doublemint without chemical sweeteners?

[Ghost]

So I  hope everyone is up to speed now.

Clinton Plastics made

1. Glenn Strange Candy bucket for trick or treating large hole on top strap riveted on sometimes inside or outside.



2. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light.



3. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light with a base or pedestal molded in one piece



4. Glenn Strange lamp/bucket hybrid with large hole on top, small hole in back for the light and base or pedestal molded in one piece called variously candy pail or candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters.



There are no known glow versions are all examples are likely sun faded or painted. The pink versions could possibly be plastic deterioration or a change in ingredients for a very small batch. 

In addition to those Clinton products that have shown up are a pumpkin scissors and skull staffs.



Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company

[Ghost]

Why are you limiting your sample to monster items? What about the concerted effort to get metal lunch boxes banned because they could be used as "weapons"? What about the disappearance/banning of candy cigarettes? Toy guns? Projectiles? What about the disappearance of the word "sugar" from the names of cereals, e.g. Sugar Pops becoming Corn Pops? For that matter, have you tried recently to find good old-fashioned gum such as Dentyne or Doublemint without chemical sweeteners?

As in the context of the search term "mother" on these boards and in reference to your reasoning as to why the Frankenstein buckets were so scarce and what possible others were available.

From one of the Frankenstein bucket threads on this board! The reason the Frankenstein bucket is relatively scarce is mothers weren't inclined toward the Frankenstein bucket. They preferred the jack-o-lantern(?) and ghost(?) and witch(?) or whatever they were.

No I am not! A Creature bucket would have been a sure loser with mothers too.

Basically I knew very well there were never any examples of other Clinton buckets talked about on these boards having researched heavily prior to posting. Expanding the search to the internet also yielded no results. There was however a possibility and you being old enough to possibly remember or having collected long enough to have run into that information somewhere I tried as nicely as possible to give you the chance to back up your claims with a direct link to the conversation or photos of said products. You admitted it was based on a hazy memory but was adamant that  they existed anyway. I never doubted your genuine belief that you had read that somewhere but unfortunately memory alone is not always reliable. I included Adam's prank that I was aware of as an a possible cause of the confusion as he lists his "source" as a owner of creature buckets and even implied it was likely an urban legend. At this point I think that all things considered the set of never produced buckets from the late 1990s-2000s shown earlier with a Boris Karloff likeness, the Mummy, and Wolf Man are likely the culprits. By stating it the way you did you were purporting it as a fact not a question about any other buckets and such misinformation and rumors can quickly dupe others like Adam's April Fools' prank and get hopes up. I don't think you meant to mislead intentionally. I apologize if my posts seem antagonistic to you or come off rude. I am sorry. They may have been. I was trying to quickly clear up any misunderstanding about what is actually out there. There is still a wide possibility as only really a handful of Halloween products from the company have surfaced and there is that great question about whether or not the companies merged or were bought out and if other products exist under a different company name with the same sculpts or molds.

[Monster Bob]

The "pink" version is not deterioration, fading, or anything else. It is molded in pink plastic. I found three of them together about 15-20 years ago, UNUSED, all were pink with the identical paint scheme. At the time, I was just like- 'wow, they did them in pink, too,' and kept one of them. I believe I already had the light, which I had paid $75 for (and debated that at the time). Bill Bruegman claimed to have a "bike horn" version in one of his early catalogs- it had a handle on it like a siren horn, but the catalog picture used looked fabricated/put together/faked, and I never heard of anyone owning it, though it "sold". I still don't buy that one was real, at least until I see one for real.

RE- the "lighted candy bucket with base and hole and rivots"...wouldn't the light melt the candy? These lights get fairly warm, and your candy would be touching a hot light bulb. Doesn't make much sense.

[Ghost]

The "pink" version is not deterioration, fading, or anything else. It is molded in pink plastic. I found three of them together about 15-20 years ago, UNUSED, all were pink with the identical paint scheme. At the time, I was just like- 'wow, they did them in pink, too,' and kept one of them. I believe I already had the light, which I had paid $75 for (and debated that at the time). Bill Bruegman claimed to have a "bike horn" version in one of his early catalogs- it had a handle on it like a siren horn, but the catalog picture used looked fabricated/put together/faked, and I never heard of anyone owning it, though it "sold". I still don't buy that one was real, at least until I see one for real.

RE- the "lighted candy bucket with base and hole and rivots"...wouldn't the light melt the candy? These lights get fairly warm, and your candy would be touching a hot light bulb. Doesn't make much sense.

Many plastic toys have shifted colors completely not because of sun fading but because of the chemical breakdown of the plastic used causing blues to look green and oranges to look pink causing collectors to think a rare variation has been found because it is obviously molded in that color and there is no sign of plastic rot such as stickiness, brittleness, or patches of discoloration. Some of these examples are brand new still in a sealed package. Now I am not saying I know for sure, you are the one who owned/owns it, however it is a possibility that either a small batch was done in pink purposely like I said or that the mixture of plastic for whatever reason has turned pink in a small batch. A change in ingredients in the plastic molding process will change the final color but I did not say that pink was not the desired color for that batch. Pink could have been an alternate color and I did not exclude that possibility, just included the possibility of a change in the manufacturing process. That includes pink as the desired color, pink as an unintended color manufacturer's error, and pink as a chemical change in the plastic due to a variation in the plastic molding process. I don't think we will ever know for sure.

You are right the candy bucket lamp makes zero sense. It is clearly molded as a lamp however the presence of the rivets for the handle is an enigma because it would be unwieldy to a trick or treating child. The lamp would melt the candy if used simultaneously as a dish but the lamp also has lost all effectiveness because of the large hole cut out of the top. I think that was the reason that there was speculation that it was a production mock up for a lamp using an existing bucket as an pre-sales sample or mock up. It is a weird example that cannot be used comfortably as a trick or treating bucket, is not effective as a lamp, and could be used as a candy dish with a useless lamp attached.