Rob Zombie's The Munsters

Started by BigShadow, March 14, 2021, 07:59:09 PM

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Quote from: judd on June 08, 2022, 07:56:16 PM
...make up correct,....

My only complaint so far with that is that horrible black around Herman's eyes; no idea why anyone chose to go with such an unnatural look over a more subtle natural shading.

Haunted hearse

Quote from: zombiehorror on June 08, 2022, 10:02:13 PM
My only complaint so far with that is that horrible black around Herman's eyes; no idea why anyone chose to go with such an unnatural look over a more subtle natural shading.
When I think of natural, Herman Munster doesn't come to mind.
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Quote from: Haunted hearse on June 09, 2022, 07:02:04 AM
When I think of natural, Herman Munster doesn't come to mind.

When I think of Herman Munster I don't think of him putting black eye shadow around his eyes and that's what Herman looks like he did in that teaser. Maybe there's a part in the film where he gets into goth rock? Or maybe it's a Norwegian metal based look.

aura of foreboding

I definitely have to agree about Herman's eye makeup.  It has bothered me since I first saw the initial photo, and it only got worse with each new picture.  But then I saw the black and white part of the trailer, and I said, "Wow, this doesn't look that bad."  But then they went to color, and I was like...  "Ugh."  But you know what?  I think it actually helps the actor replicate Gwynne's expressions better.  Gwynne's face was so unique, and his eyes were such a huge part of the character, and, at the very end of the trailer, you can see him almost nailing one of those classic Gwynne looks, something that would probably be hard without the makeup accentuating the eyes.  With everything else so meticulously detailed, it would be weird to think that they just chose to not do Herman's makeup right.  There had to be a reason, and I think this might be it.  Another thought is, recently Zombie said they were going for a more live cartoon look, and that exaggerated makeup just fits that better.  Either way, the parts of the trailer where there were actual clips were very well done, and I am looking forward to seeing The Munsters again. 

Looks like an origin story to me: suitcases abound, Herman in his SOF outfit, no Eddie or Marilyn in sight...   

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Haunted hearse

I saw the new trailer today. and I like what I'm seeing.
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judd

The new trailer looks like it will be a fun film.  Some of the hardcore fans make take exception.  There are differences but I think the spirit of the original series remains.  I guess the main difference is it is more colorful and over the top compared to the original.

Akira-Devilman

The new trailer have this strong Willy Wonka filter on it...everything is neon and shiny, even in night time everything looks like a disco and i am not sure if i like that....the B&W part of the trailers looks soo good and on point but with the strong saturated colors it reminds me a 90s Power Rangers episode (and the tacky special effects doesn't help)

The Count is perfect...i didn't expect that, but the voices of Herman and Lily are soo jarring...Sheri Moon Zombie overacts too much here. I will watch it but i feel this movie really will blur the lines between love and hate

ODBJBG

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Easily the worst trailer for a major studio film in decades if not ever.

I genuinely feel bad for Dan. I know he tried.

Whatever they were going for they missed, by a mile. I know some people here may just have their "It's the Munsters I like it" blinders on and maybe some people were just happy that Herman isn't raping women and skinning them alive or whatever usual Zombie tropes there are, but no one can look at this and think it was good.

As a trailer it's amateurish, poorly shot, REALLY bad audio, incoherent and the acting looks like all the original actors died and have stunt doubles doing the lines.

The reviews for this trailer have not been good. I have never seen a trailer so universally panned. And not for the usual reasons. I've never seen so many people wonder why the cinematography looks so bad, or the audio is so bad or the acting so bad or seen so many people compare it to student films or porn parody.

Outside of the costumes, this looks about as bad as it can get.

Hopefully the movie is better than the trailer, but at this point, the trailer is so panned that it doesn't really matter. There's almost no chance this movie will recover from the bad press the trailer has got.

And as you know, more often than not, trailers are better than the movie. They're specifically cut to highlight the best of films.

I would not be shocked if this is the lowest grossing film of the year from a major studio, but given the very negative reaction from pretty much well, everyone, to this trailer, I almost wouldn't be shocked if this ends up dumped on Peacock and skips theaters altogether.

gracebuster

Just a different perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMaWV5HwgLs

The color palette is directly from Munsters Go Home, failed to mention that in the video.

ODBJBG

Thanks Dan! I stand by my original thoughts, but I appreciate your enthusiasm. It's certainly infectious. I hope the film turns out better than the trailer because I love the Munsters and it sure seems like a lot of love was put into it.

Mike Scott

Quote from: ODBJBG on July 14, 2022, 09:43:23 AM

Outside of the costumes, this looks about as bad as it can get.


Hey! He found something he liked about it!  ;D
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ODBJBG

Quote from: Mike Scott on July 14, 2022, 01:27:25 PM
Hey! He found something he liked about it!  ;D

Yeah the costumes weren't the problem with the trailer. I don't think anyone has said that TBH.

aura of foreboding

So, I did a thing...  I turned the color off on my computer, and I watched the trailer...  and I have to say it plays a million times better in black and white.  Like, all of the Transylvania scenes look GREAT.  The Mockingbird Lane scene didn't change much, but the rest of the trailer looked so much better.  Like, the lighting was obviously designed for a black and white film.  Like it's really, really hard to do lighting properly for a black and white film, but they did it in most of these scenes.  Personally, if I were Rob Zombie, I would have pushed out this trailer to get a lot of negative reactions from people to show Universal...  "Look, we have to change this to black and white."  And basically force their hand to release it in black and white.  Now, I don't know if that was the intention or not.  I don't know if there is a planned black and white alternate release, which explains the lighting and depth issues.  I don't know.  I do know that the main complaints about this trailer are aesthetic, and black and white would fix those complaints. 

My thoughts:  I thought Dan as The Count was PERFECT, like he is PERFECT for the role, and I enjoyed every single scene with him.  There were two parts in the trailer where I really felt Lewis and Gwynne were truly channeled, and I had to do a double take.  First, Grandpa's line, "I can whip you up a hubby down in the lab."  So spot on.  I, for sure, thought that was Al Lewis.  Next when Herman is standing in the doorway talking to Lily. 

We now get to see where the character cameos are being used, which is cool.  Obviously the Tin Can Man is the Justice of the Peace and Uncle Gilbert is at the movies.  I imagine most of these cameos will take place in short sequences like these.  I don't know what the script looks like, but -- to me -- most of these scenes in the trailer read like they are out of a montage sequence of Herman and Lily dating, like I can't imagine most of these as actual full scenes in the film.  And if they are, they ought to be cut into a single montage.  We get the point, they're in love.  Grandpa is trying to stop it, and that should be where the meat of the story is and what most scenes for this part of the script focus on.

One final note, it was only when I watched the trailer in black and white that I saw Grandpa's skeleton when he was zapped by lightning.  Even when I rewatched in color, it wasn't very visible.  Not sure if that means anything, but the film is clearly designed to be viewed in black and white regardless of what the official line has been about "color" and "live action cartoon".  Universal, be smart.  Release this in black and white.  Hopefully the scenes that aren't lit for black and white can be fixed to match the excellent black and white lighting in the rest of the film.