Elwar Button Mystery

[hugohernandez]

i misread your message.

no i don't have the small elwar buttons, but i will get a Frankenstein button until I get the BIG ONE, 1st run.


which may be never.

[hugohernandez]

here is a link to that vending machine card for the small buttons.   Man look how much that went for!
http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?Auction=183&ItemNo=27339

[Mike Scott]

here is a link to that vending machine card for the small buttons.   Man look how much that went for!

Of course, that was for the card and the buttons, although that still makes it about $200 for the card! They probably paid a premium to get the whole mess in one lot.

[hugohernandez]

How can you tell the reproduction cards from the ORIGINAL vending card?   is there a date?   Or a way to tell with a magnifying glass or Loop?

[Mike Scott]

How can you tell the reproduction cards from the ORIGINAL vending card?   is there a date?   Or a way to tell with a magnifying glass or Loop?

Any repros are just scanned from an original (or a pic off the net). In person you can tell the difference between old card stock and new, unless the old was extremely well taken care of, or somebody went to way too much trouble to fake a new one to make it look old.

If you're buying online, know your sellers rep, ask lots of questions and get a guarantee. (Unless you can afford to lose the money.)

[horrorhunter]

Any repros are just scanned from an original (or a pic off the net). In person you can tell the difference between old card stock and new, unless the old was extremely well taken care of, or somebody went to way too much trouble to fake a new one to make it look old.

If you're buying online, know your sellers rep, ask lots of questions and get a guarantee. (Unless you can afford the money.)

I have one of the repro display cards that was thrown in with a couple of the original small Elwar buttons in an eBay auction. The card stock is thin. Were the original cards on thicker stock? I have an original Monster Heads (like Pop-Tops, by Henal) display card and it's VERY thick.

Since the original cards are fairly expensive, I'm satisfied with the repro. These things are very easy to copy, and the copies display just like a real one. Who knows how many people buy vending machine display cards thinking they are original when, in fact, they are buying copies. We know evilBay is full of sellers who don't shoot straight.

[Mike Scott]

Were the original cards on thicker stock?

Don't know, but I assume all the repros are, 'cause they have to go through a desktop printer. So if you have a thick one, it's a good bet it's the real thing.

[hugohernandez]

Wade A. Minut.    I just looked at my buttons with a printer's loop and you can see the benday dots used in the printing.

wouldn't the real vending card also show the printing dots under magnifying loop?    Wouldn't that be the way to distinguish fake from real?

anybody?

[Mike Scott]

Wouldn't the real vending card also show the printing dots under magnifying loop?    Wouldn't that be the way to distinguish fake from real?

There ya go! Forgot about those little things! (Well, their so small!)

[hugohernandez]

LOL.  they are small.   like tiny little dots.

[hugohernandez]

Since the original cards are fairly expensive, I'm satisfied with the repro. These things are very easy to copy, and the copies display just like a real one. Who knows how many people buy vending machine display cards thinking they are original when, in fact, they are buying copies. We know evilBay is full of sellers who don't shoot straight.
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horror hunter, can you see if your repro of the vending card, or anybody whom owns one, has the benday printing dots on it.

I would appreciate it.    Also if anybody has a pic of the 1st issue Big Frankenstein button.   I have scoured the internet to no success.

[zman1981]

I too have been tirelessly searching for a photo of a first run Frank, but to no avail...


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[hugohernandez]

Thanks Zman, glad to know I am not alone in my search.    putting my feelers out there for one of those 1st run Franks.   

[horrorhunter]

Since the original cards are fairly expensive, I'm satisfied with the repro. These things are very easy to copy, and the copies display just like a real one. Who knows how many people buy vending machine display cards thinking they are original when, in fact, they are buying copies. We know evilBay is full of sellers who don't shoot straight.


horror hunter, can you see if your repro of the vending card, or anybody whom owns one, has the benday printing dots on it.

I would appreciate it.    Also if anybody has a pic of the 1st issue Big Frankenstein button.   I have scoured the internet to no success.

I checked my repro card with a 8.7x magnifying glass, and I saw no Ben-Day dots.

Refresh everyone on Ben-Day dots, and what their presence would prove or disprove.

[hugohernandez]

Ben-Day dots prove that the art was actually printed on a 4 color printing press.    not a photo copy.   Which means the Ben-Gay, I mean Ben-Day dot buttons were manufactured by a large company, probably Captain Company.   

In going through the later FM's, and Richard (where are you dude?) found the first Elwar 3.5 button ad in issue 95, 1972.

I found it in issue 99, 1974 and jumping ahead, in issue 109!   So they had a lot of them, thats for sure.      I was reading FM every month and never noticed that wonderful ad.