The "Walking Dead" Thread

[ravenloft]

Judith can be offed any time now. I don't feel it would really be a ratings killer. She is just dead weight and a lot of fan's would rather have had Rick's wife survive than her.

She is already long dead in the comics Rick's wife Lori killed her accidently during her death in the prison.
"Lori's death in the TV show was greeted with cheers by many fans, as the character's divisive, contradictory behavior rendered her untenable and just plain annoying in the eyes of many. If you read the comics, though, you'll have to put up with her torment of the Grimes family even longer, since she doesn't die until the Governor's raid on the prison (and not before committing a final act of infanticide: falling on top of and crushing/smothering baby Judith)."
Carol and Glenn are both dead in the comics by this point as well.

[ChristineBCW]

(Thanks for the comics update.  I lost interest just moments after Carl lost his eye/half-a-head.  If you're up on the comics, how many body parts are missing for Rick and Carl now?  The constant whittling away seemed to be the artist's method of easier identification since his ability to draw distinguishable characters with full body parts seemed, well, imperfect.)

[ravenloft]

the tv show is infinitely better. It is like they got a chance to fix things after they thought them through; plus what are zombies without colored gore?
Actors, F/X etc. Story line, Tv show is better in every way.

Morgan, Abraham, and  Rosita are dead in the comics too.

[Anton Phibes]

I wouldn't give you two cents for the comics. tried them. Hated them. I like the show.

[ChristineBCW]

(Apologies for backtracking - well before Season 4.5, 4...)

There was an episode where Carl and his new gun are confronted by a slightly older lad, and Carl guns him down. 

Herschel berated Carl then, and then finked on him to daddy Rick about Carl The Psycho Killer.

But... that wasn't right. 

The slightly older let off a sneer that Carl saw, and no one else noticed - the older lad was going to draw and fire.  That's what that sneer said - he was looking directly at Carl and said, with his eyes only, "I'm better'n you and I'm about ready to prove it by shooting you."

Carl shot first.  No problem! 

But Carl was tormented by Herschel for a few more episodes.  Always uncorrected, too. 

Did anyone else see that sneer?  I have rewatched that episode specifically for it - yep, it's there.  But is that anyone else's opinion?  The kid challenged - Carl responded.

(TO MIKE SCOTT - you started this Season 4.5 thread... should there be - or is there? - a more general Walking Dead thread rather than tromp on your original subject?)

[Mike Scott]

(TO MIKE SCOTT - you started this Season 4.5 thread... should there be - or is there? - a more general Walking Dead thread rather than tromp on your original subject?)

We just kept using the same old thread, so I changed the title to: The "Walking Dead" Thread

[long live kong]

We've just re-watched the entire series here from the start, and I've enjoyed it even more on a second viewing. I scoffed at some of the past episodes and got bored with season 2 with the whole farm/search for Sofia saga, but this time round I found it totally gripping. The constant struggle the characters have between their sense of morality and the desire to survive, and the way each character evolves through the seasons has made for some outrageously awesome television, and all with hoards of Romero-style zombies (I mean walkers/roamers/lame brains!).

Anyone else had the stamina to re-watch the whole bloody saga?

Oh, and Glenn lives!!

[Mike Scott]

Anyone else had the stamina to re-watch the whole bloody saga?

I re-watched the first (6 epi.) season, before the 2nd season started, but that's as close as I ever got.

[ChristineBCW]

Anyone else had the stamina to re-watch...?

Yes.  The key word.  Stamina.

Now, rewatch them all again.  Do that 3 times and promise to sit there, rapt!   

It's going to be interesting to see if TWD has a shelf-life like the CSI / Law & Order types have....

Of course, I've never understood spinoffs of these, like Law & Order SUV.  I know all these crime-dramas have big sports-utility vehicles, but do they really need an SUV spin-off themselves?!!  "Just look at the shocks and springs!  Who could have done this!  We MUST solve this mystery!!" 

"A scratch in the paint?!!  MONSTERS, not just vandals!  We must solve this horrific crime!!"



Well, onto a barely-more serious consideration... what if Carl was replaced, in time?  I mean - the actor, but keep the character.  I can think of one way to energize the series after all others are killed off.  A new Carl actor - after all, he's got the Hat Thing going...

[long live kong]

Well I admit it does indeed require stamina. 16 eps a season is a long slog, but it's worth it! Go on Christine, give it a whirl!

[bromstaker]

the tv show is infinitely better. It is like they got a chance to fix things after they thought them through; plus what are zombies without colored gore?
Actors, F/X etc. Story line, Tv show is better in every way.

Morgan, Abraham, and  Rosita are dead in the comics too.

I've only looked over a few of the comics, but I've skim read 2 of the spin-off books (which are based on the comics - not the tv show). The books are darker, grimmer and unrelentingly brutal. I don't plan on reading another. The show is much better.

[ChristineBCW]

One thing I enjoy about AMC's several times a year show-all marathons is the chance to test stamina.  I can barely get thru any one ep, though.  There are simply too many long, drawn-out pauses between major events and, otherwise, all the brain splatters look the same. 

I am still waiting for someone to slip and fall off of the Guv's pier into his zomb-pond.  Gee - what a surprise!

[Mord]

Well I admit it does indeed require stamina. 16 eps a season is a long slog, but it's worth it! Go on Christine, give it a whirl!

I agree. There are very few other shows that I could watch full seasons of ("Breaking Bad" being another exception).

[long live kong]

I'd like to see Carl get shot in the eye. Haven't read the comics but apparently he loses an arm as well?? That would be even better. The kid was adorable in seasons 1-2, I was thinking 'why all the hate for Carl'?
  Then the little sucker hit puberty...Nooooooooo!!

[ChristineBCW]

After THE MORGAN episode, I was given a huge reminder-dose that these writers love their daytime soap operas.  "We only need action and events on Monday and Friday, and we stall the other 3 days." 

It's not that The Morgan episode wasn't decent for what it was, but for a group of writers who can only create 1 cliffhanger per season apparently, I guess we'll find Glenn has been stored in some farmer's barn for the rest of this season, only to be released at the very end. 

(Which goes back to Marsy's comment about Carol being a loony... seeing Rick kill her zombie-daughter might give a wide berth for action-justification - "Doing what needs to be done" might be a great catch-all phrase for once-loony justifications.

I regret the writers didn't solve the Glenn mystery.  "Stringing the audience along" has been their stock-n-trade, though.