The "Walking Dead" Thread

Started by Mike Scott, February 07, 2014, 09:44:40 PM

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Mord

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 28, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
I'm not saying they can't do it. They can do whatever they want, but it will be a cheat.

Like I said, there's another zombie hoard on the other side of that fence.
Cheat away, as long as they keep Glenn around. You have to have at least one likeable character.

Anton Phibes

Maybe the dumpster is rusted out at the bottom. Glenn crawls up in it, grabs a discarded soda flat inside the dumpster and places it over the hole. Zombies, believing they ate all the meat in the area get bored and chase a nearby squirrel.  >:D

Man I wish my next batch of DD heads would arrive. I need to paint. :angel:

Gory Glenn

Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 28, 2015, 01:33:31 PM
Maybe the dumpster is rusted out at the bottom. Glenn crawls up in it, grabs a discarded soda flat inside the dumpster and places it over the hole. Zombies, believing they ate all the meat in the area get bored and chase a nearby squirrel.

Or he sticks his feet out of the bottom of the dumpster Flintstone style and walks his way out.  ;)

Anton Phibes

Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 28, 2015, 01:35:05 PM
Or he sticks his feet out of the bottom of the dumpster Flintstone style and walks his way out.  ;)


HAHAHHA!!!!!! ;D Droll, Wilma. Very droll.

Mord

Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 28, 2015, 01:33:31 PM
Maybe the dumpster is rusted out at the bottom. Glenn crawls up in it, grabs a discarded soda flat inside the dumpster and places it over the hole. Zombies, believing they ate all the meat in the area get bored and chase a nearby squirrel.  >:D

Then Glenn will get tetanus and the zombies will get rabies. It's a lose-lose.

Mike Scott

Quote from: Mord on October 28, 2015, 01:32:13 PM
Cheat away, as long as they keep Glenn around.

I don't want Glenn to die! I didn't want the writers to have a giant hoard of zombies cover him, either, but they did it and I don't see a (credible) way for them to write him out of it.
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Mord

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 28, 2015, 03:17:29 PM
I don't want Glenn to die! I didn't want the writers to have a giant hoard of zombies cover him, either, but they did it and I don't see a (credible) way for them to write him out of it.
I think they've thrown credibility out the window before. They can do it just one more time to save Glenn. I completely understand where you're coming from, though.

Gory Glenn

Thanks for all the well wishes guys!  :) Oh, wait you're talking about a different Glenn.  :o

ChristineBCW

This is going to be interesting, whichever direction they choose.  It reiterates what all the show's fans need to address: (1) Is this series going to come to a happy ending, or a bad one?  And (2) will fans accept a wipe-out of the cast and new characters?

Are fans willing to accept "everyone dies" or are there sacred cows among the cast? 

A new cast might attract a new audience.  I suspect the original audience will erode sooner or later, especially with Glenn's, Maggie's, Judith's, Carl's, Carol's, Daryl's and the Other Daryl's deaths. 

Mike Scott

Quote from: Mord on October 28, 2015, 04:54:04 PM
I think they've thrown credibility out the window before.

I've seen people get out of a tight jam, before, but not an impossible one. If the writers come up with a credible "out", I'll give them their due.
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Mike Scott

Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 28, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes guys! 

You've already turned! There's no hope for you.
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Mord

Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 28, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes guys!  :) Oh, wait you're talking about a different Glenn.  :o
Remember pal, I know you. At 6'4", you ain't squeezing through any dumpster crawlspace.

ravenloft

Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 28, 2015, 05:25:24 PM
Are fans willing to accept "everyone dies" or are there sacred cows among the cast? 
A new cast might attract a new audience.  I suspect the original audience will erode sooner or later, especially with Glenn's, Maggie's, Judith's, Carl's, Carol's, Daryl's and the Other Daryl's deaths.
In a word: No.
In several words: with out continuing characters for the fans to follow through out it would effectively be a spinoff series no different really than the new Fear of the Walking Dead show and ratings on the original show would tank, not to mention it would be a drastic departure from the comics the series are based on, so it will never happen.


Daryl is a bit of a wild card because he is not in the comics so he could easily die (and likely torpedo their show in ratings with fans, considering he is the numbereo uno fan pick) or he very well could be a sacred cow that is immortal for that very reason.

Rick is numero uno in the comics and the plot from day one has centered around him but he has gone off the deep end so many fans no longer relate to him or empathize with him (I stopped caring after he was looney and seeing his dead wife for instance.) He does not have immunity on the show in my opinion, but that would require a drastic departure from the comic story line so probably can't happen.

Judith is baggage in every sense of the word both emotional and physical so she could easily go, but that would make the writers baby killers (and probably ratings killers)

Carl is and always has been along for the ride, he is a slightly more important supporting character and is only important because of Rick...he is expendable but again he is a major character in the comics

Carol is the new badass, since Daryl has done very little for several episodes in a row (why are they trying to down play him?) and has subsequently gained much new popularity so I can't see her dying any time soon but who knows.

Maggie (from season two but now a regular) like Daryl hasn't done much in several episodes (getting down played why?) and really she is just supporting cast for Glenn and not a member of the original group so she is certainly expendable and her fate is largely tied to his. But as the only successful romance on the show, that is playing with the fans emotions like dynamite it will blow up in the writer's faces (or already has) but she is a super hottie, so male fans would be angered if she bit the dust.

the addition to the group of Morgan from the first season with his unique bo staff skills (in a Napoleon Dynamite voice) and humanity sorta intact means he is the current plot device for this season so he isn't checking out anytime soon for sure

Michonne the zombie chopping sword master (while from the second season and not one of the original cast) gives Walking Dead unique flavor, if they lose her it becomes the same as every other zombie survival movie at that point, so she is pretty much untouchable.

Mord

 Judith can be offed any time now. I don't feel it would really be a ratings killer. She is just dead weight and a lot of fan's would rather have had Rick's wife survive than her.

ChristineBCW

Raven, I agree with almost everything except Maggie has taken on a sronger liaison, perhaps New Queen Of Alexandria role with her sensible, shovel-handing talk with Congresswoman What's-Her-Name. 

The size of the ensemble is highlighted by your numerous references to "not doing much with them for several eps" comments.  This is something the writers have to be dreading - "We've got too many, they're lasting too long!"

I wonder what the paycheck-signing producers are saying, too?  Actors might not be used for weeks at a time.  "Can I do Broadway?  The next James Bond?  Or the Selleckesque I'm wanted to do an action adventurer named Indiana Jones?"  The long long episode filming regimen plus the weeks-off for many actors has to get them paid SOMETHING.  It is a Guild show, after all.

"Kill 'em off" is one solution...although I think the Flintstone-mobile would be a hoot.  Would Glenn operate it like a Roomba?  Bumb-turn, bump-turn?

I think Michonne's my vote for Sacred Cow-Character.   Judith will be a total toughie to kill off, though.  Can you imagine THAT possible scene?  Who lets her die?  Who hands her over?  ("And just after I'd changed her diaper!!")

(I can't believe Credibility is ever discussed on this show.  "You need a shower."  "What about siphoning off gasoline?" We haven't seen any reference to indoor plumping since the original Free-The-Convicts episode.  I think "credibility" should be ix-nayed.  "Logic and common sense", fine.   But credibility?  Well... they haven't given us a cheap non-death yet!)