You know...the toys that you look at and cannot understand why anyone would collect them? It has to be monster toy though - so don't say "superheroes" or "robots". etc. Soooo, the one sub-genre of monster toys that I just don't get are: the Mego-style figures. For the life of me, I just can't get into monster toys with Barbie-doll type clothing wrapped around them. Some of the really big Sideshow pieces produced many years ago do look nice. I own the London After Midnight and Frankenstein, and at that large scale they did manage to make the clothes fit nice and snug (and scale-like). But IMHO, the smaller 8" figures just look goofy with clothing, AND those massive and obvious joints look horrible. Usually, the only thing I find appealing about them is just the head sculpt, and that's about it.
Oh, and Godzilla toys. I don't know why, but I hate that monster...along with all of his films.
So, no arguments here. Just spout your monster toy pet peeve...
I'm with you on Godzilla...hate the movies, hate the toys. My particular peeve is "stylized" figures. I will not waste my time with a caricature/cartoon version of a monster I grew up with. After Sideshow set the bar, others could at least try to reach it.
Monster High
Retro figures that aren't actually retro. They don't look as good as modern toys, but also lack the intrinsic value of actually being classics. One of the reasons that I like vintage collectibles is because they are 20,30,40 years old.
I also am not a fan of 'small' figures, things that are around three inches or so. I'm thinking about Reaction figures, finger puppets, and such. They are too small to really appreciate and look terribly cluttered on a shelf.
I'm with Mord on stylized figures, though I do actually like the Funko Pops. But I hate those new Dorbz items and the vinyl idolz figures look like characters from Bob's Burgers.
Two modern toy lines, both by the same company, Funko.
I don't get the appeal of Funko Pops. That said, I like the choices of TV shows and movie characters that I like. What I don't care about at all is the fact that they are basically bobble heads. Large, stylized head on tiny, non-articulated body. One point of articulation (wow). Not much to do with them, except place them on your desk. Monitors are LCD these days, so you can't put a bunch of toys on top of your monitor like you used to do with CRTs. No accessories, hands that don't hold items, not very useful for dioramas, can't make clothing for them, limited customization options.
The other line from Funko that I don't care for are those 3-3/4" "action" figures, based on 70s' and 80's TV shows and movies. 5 points of articulation. The arms swivel up and down, and the legs can do goosesteps. And the head turns 360 degrees. The limited articulation means you still can't do much with them. No bendable elbows or knees, so you can't pose them very much. They're inferior to 80's-era GiJoes.
They retail for $10, which is the same price as 26 point-of-articulation skeletons from October Toys. I can do a helluva lot with the skeletons.
Quote from: Rockshasa on February 27, 2016, 12:57:22 PM
. . the Mego-style figures. I just can't get into monster toys with Barbie-doll type clothing wrapped around them.
I think that is one of the reasons I only collection Creature. You get very little of that.
Quote from: ZeMastor on February 27, 2016, 06:25:13 PMThe other line from Funko that I don't care for are those 3-3/4" "action" figures.......They retail for $10, which is the same price as 26 point-of-articulation skeletons from October Toys. I can do a helluva lot with the skeletons.
Totally agree, although I was very tempted to buy the Reaction JAWS trio (and didn't), as I think there is a huge lack of JAWS toys out there (one of my fave movies of all time). But yeah, I can't see the value in those little tiny figures, and actually, it looks like the price of them is going up soon, as Amok Time is showing the new Re-Animator figure going for $15. To me, that is outrageous for a tiny chunk of plastic that probably cost no more than 3 dollars to produce (if that). This is ridiculously overpriced:
http://www.amoktime.com/monstarz-re-animator-3-75-scale-retro-action-figure.html (http://www.amoktime.com/monstarz-re-animator-3-75-scale-retro-action-figure.html)
Quote from: Mike Scott on February 27, 2016, 06:39:53 PMI think that is one of the reasons I only collection Creature. You get very little of that.
I love the Creature too!! But I have a huge soft spot for Frankenstein....I can't get enough Frankenstein toys.
It's hard for me to think of a "least favorite" monster toy genre. I tend to like everything, though I like some things more than others. But if others can say they dislike 8" figures and Godzilla and not get pelted with fruit, I can say this: I don't like monster toys that are primarily printed cardboard (like a lot of classic 1960s items). I've always been a figural toy guy. I like three-dimensional representations of characters. I like dollies. I like jigglers. I like masks. I like models. I like blow molds. I like robots. I even like some statues, though I don't own many. But I don't care for games, dart boards, paint sets, puzzles, etc. I don't like activity toys, where the only monster element is the package artwork. (One exception would be makeup kits. I do love those.) I enjoy seeing these things in other people's collections. I can share their pride and excitement in owning them, but I don't feel like I need to own them myself. Probably because I'm a 70s/80s monster kid, growing up in a time when "action" toys were very much the norm. When I hold a Frankenstein toy, I want to feel like I have my own little Frankenstein buddy, not a picture of Frankenstein.
Quote from: Rockshasa on February 27, 2016, 06:48:34 PM
Totally agree, although I was very tempted to buy the Reaction JAWS trio (and didn't), as I think there is a huge lack of JAWS toys out there (one of my fave movies of all time). But yeah, I can't see the value in those little tiny figures, and actually, it looks like the price of them is going up soon, as Amok Time is showing the new Re-Animator figure going for $15. To me, that is outrageous for a tiny chunk of plastic that probably cost no more than 3 dollars to produce (if that). This is ridiculously overpriced:
http://www.amoktime.com/monstarz-re-animator-3-75-scale-retro-action-figure.html (http://www.amoktime.com/monstarz-re-animator-3-75-scale-retro-action-figure.html)
I think that looks pretty good compared to the Funko offerings. The difference in quality for the first wave of Aliens (actually made in the late 70's, but never produced) and the second wave, which had some part reuse figures that looked fine, and a few new sculpts, which were abysmal. And it has fantastic accessories.
A lot of the time you're paying for the license. Rights holders have been driving prices up on tons of stuff lately, especially for popular properties. I can't understand why they do, as the cost is often so prohibitive, no one bothers to pay for it. And if merchandise isn't out there for your brand, isn't that bad? I'd just take money and let other people do my advertising for me.
Honestly...I've never liked most Phantom of the Opera toys. Only so few really capture the Chaney likeness, while most others just look kinda...dumpy. But that's just me...
Quote from: Count Zachula on February 28, 2016, 03:01:08 AM
Honestly...I've never liked most Phantom of the Opera toys. Only so few really capture the Chaney likeness, while most others just look kinda...dumpy. But that's just me...
Really? I can't recall many that don't look like him. Other than Diamond Select.
Quote from: Count Zachula on February 28, 2016, 03:01:08 AM
Honestly...I've never liked most Phantom of the Opera toys. Only so few really capture the Chaney likeness, while most others just look kinda...dumpy. But that's just me...
I think the Phantom is one of the characters they usually get right. I can't think of many bad Phantom toys at all. The EMCE Mego Phantom was the star of the entire line.
Quote from: Mord on February 28, 2016, 01:21:43 PM
I think the Phantom is one of the characters they usually get right. I can't think of many bad Phantom toys at all. The EMCE Mego Phantom was the star of the entire line.
Yeah, it was the only one that looked like a serious, modern figure in the line. (Which kinda' killed the whole point of the line though).
Quote from: YoungestMonsterKid on February 28, 2016, 04:08:34 PM
Yeah, it was the only one that looked like a serious, modern figure in the line. (Which kinda' killed the whole point of the line though).
Not really. Nothing stated that the line had to be poorly sculpted. I would rather have one good figure and seven mediocre ones, than eight mediocre ones (for consistency's sake).
They definitely LOOK like the Phantom, and none of them are poorly sculpted, but when I look at certain Frankenstein figures, or Creature figures, I can tell how accurate they are to the films and some of them just feel like they can come to life. The Phantoms never did that for me. I always felt they were just sculpted representations of him. The Sideshow bust is the best, I think, but the Sideshow 8 inch is too goofy for me, even the newer head they gave him for the Silver Screen version.
That's just me, guys! I'm too nitpicky :P
Quote from: Mord on February 28, 2016, 01:21:43 PM
I think the Phantom is one of the characters they usually get right. I can't think of many bad Phantom toys at all. The EMCE Mego Phantom was the star of the entire line.
Definitely
Quote from: Count Zachula on February 28, 2016, 05:42:22 PMThe Sideshow bust is the best, I think, but the Sideshow 8 inch is too goofy for me, even the newer head they gave him for the Silver Screen version.
Sideshow never did a Phantom bust. Are you thinking of the Cine-art one? I'm incredibly picky, and I love the Sideshow figures (the 1/4 scale being best). Though one of my favorite Phantoms is the NECA Headknocker by Ray Santoleri.
While I appreciate their scarcity, I have never cared for the Lincoln Monster Figures. I also detest the Mezco Frankenstein figures.
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Quote from: Mord on February 28, 2016, 07:09:30 PM
Sideshow never did a Phantom bust. Are you thinking of the Cine-art one? I'm incredibly picky, and I love the Sideshow figures (the 1/4 scale being best). Though one of my favorite Phantoms is the NECA Headknocker by Ray Santoleri.
Incidently, the Cine-Art, Phantom bust is probably one of my
favorite items in my collection. Yet....still in storage.
Any cartoonish take on our beloved Uni monsters. Who the hell wants to display that rubbish? Hate 'em with a passion.
JP
Quote from: zman1981 on February 28, 2016, 07:17:16 PM
While I appreciate their scarcity, I have never cared for the Lincoln Monster Figures. I also detest the Mezco Frankenstein figures.
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Absolutely!
Quote from: marsattacks666 on February 28, 2016, 07:20:17 PM
Incidently, the Cine-Art, Phantom bust is probably one of my
favorite items in my collection. Yet....still in storage.
I'm right with you (though mine is on my shelf).
Quote from: Wolfman on February 28, 2016, 07:22:54 PM
Any cartoonish take on our beloved Uni monsters. Who the hell wants to display that rubbish? Hate 'em with a passion.
JP
I really wish my "like" button was working (for the last three comments).
Quote from: Mord on February 28, 2016, 07:35:59 PM
I really wish my "like" button was working (for the last three comments).
My LIKE button is temperamental today.
Quote from: Wolfman on February 28, 2016, 07:22:54 PM
Any cartoonish take on our beloved Uni monsters. Who the hell wants to display that rubbish? Hate 'em with a passion.
You don't like the Jack Davis "Frankenstein" poster?
Quote from: Count Zachula on February 28, 2016, 05:42:22 PM
They definitely LOOK like the Phantom, and none of them are poorly sculpted, but when I look at certain Frankenstein figures, or Creature figures, I can tell how accurate they are to the films and some of them just feel like they can come to life. The Phantoms never did that for me. I always felt they were just sculpted representations of him. The Sideshow bust is the best, I think, but the Sideshow 8 inch is too goofy for me, even the newer head they gave him for the Silver Screen version.
That's just me, guys! I'm too nitpicky :P
Pretty sure the 8 inch was going for this:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9fAd2phremk/maxresdefault.jpg)
Well, after 18 years of collecting, I've seen lots of crappy interpretations of Classic Monsters, but if I'm a fan of that monster I usually cave in and buy it anyway. I'm not that picky. I like some variety! If the likeness is off...ah well. And like someone else stated in this thread: I too hate the Funko Pop vinyl figures. Ugliest toys I've ever seen. Not into their stylized look at all. Reminds me of Japanese anime stuff...another genre of toys that I loathe.
Quote from: Mike Scott on February 28, 2016, 08:04:45 PM
You don't like the Jack Davis "Frankenstein" poster?
No, not really. I don't hate it though as it's more of a different take on the monster than a Saturday morning cartoon version of him.
JP
Toyline; Monster-Niks. The original "cutesy" monster toy. Why? Just why?
Genre; Kaiju and all of its collectibles.
Quote from: Hepcat on February 29, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
That's cheating! Give us a real pick.
C:)
Okay, well I'm fine with the Vinyl Pops and some cartoony stuff. But I hate the stuff from the mid nineties that didn't have any actor likenesses. I also dislike when they try to market them in new areas. Like really little kids or Doritos. Seems like they're just embarrassing themselves. Oh wait, that's impossible.
Anyways, for example: this is good
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7f/2f/33/7f2f33ce0e77e9c9322e776430174e6d.jpg)
but this is bad
(http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/35825c1c66cf5ecf3a740e7bf8facb6b3b3626b.pjpg)
I can't say I "hate" anything, but there's dozens I wouldn't pay a red cent for.
Quote from: YoungestMonsterKid on February 29, 2016, 11:44:52 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7f/2f/33/7f2f33ce0e77e9c9322e776430174e6d.jpg)
Well, that's very cool. I didn't know about that book.
I have this one in my monster toy collection. I bought this book back in the 2nd grade in a school book club:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/51ZigkmGPL._SY344_BO1204203200__zps5wb6xgfo.jpg)
Quote from: LundyAfterMidnight on February 29, 2016, 12:31:18 PM
I can't say I "hate" anything, but there's dozens I wouldn't pay a red cent for.
Close enough.
Quote from: raycastile on February 27, 2016, 07:26:36 PM...I don't like monster toys that are primarily printed cardboard (like a lot of classic 1960s items)..... But I don't care for games, dart boards, paint sets, puzzles, etc. I don't like activity toys, where the only monster element is the package artwork.
Being an early to mid-sixties monster kid, I love those cardboard items. The board games, paint sets, wallets, bubble gum cards, etc, they're all right in my collecting wheelhouse!
Quote from: raycastile on February 27, 2016, 07:26:36 PMI've always been a figural toy guy. I like three-dimensional representations of characters. I like dollies.... Probably because I'm a 70s/80s monster kid, growing up in a time when "action" toys were very much the norm.
Having grown up before 1970, the dollies all leave me completely unimpressed. I just have no interest in the AHI, Lincoln and whatever other doll or action figures that were released after the sixties.
;D
Quote from: Hepcat on March 01, 2016, 12:21:11 PMHaving grown up before 1970, the dollies all leave me completely unimpressed. I just have no interest in the AHI, Lincoln and whatever other doll or action figures that were released after the sixties.
Well, I was 7 in 1970. So being a child of both the late 1960's - early 1970's, on the very rare occasion (and I do mean rare), I sometimes breakdown and have bought "dolly" type figures in the past. But I do love the 1960's toys. Most of them are my favorites. Go here and peruse through these Christmas catalogs and drool over all of the cool toys from way back when...
http://www.wishbookweb.com (http://www.wishbookweb.com)
Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention... maybe 10 years ago, I was at Tower Records, and they had a toy section. There was this horror line by McFarlane toys that was really, really disgusting. It had highly detailed figures, but they were grotesquely and too realistically mutilated. It almost hurt to look at them. Definitely not for kids. Those were for adult collectors who had a much stronger stomach than I did.
I'd have to say of the vintage stuff I don't like the Lincoln figures at all. Just god awful looking. Of the modern stuff I can't stand the Funco Pop figures either.
Quite a few I don't care for that have already been mentioned. I LOATHE the "funny" monster cards like Monster Laffs ,You'll die laughing etc. HATE monster Niks and most cutsie monster stuff.
I can't count in Monster High because those are marketed to young girls(not us) and if that makes them want to watch at least one classic,so be it.
Quote from: Wicked Lester on March 01, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
I LOATHE the "funny" monster cards like Monster Laffs ,You'll die laughing etc.
Did you also hate Famous Monsters and Shock Theater?
Quote from: ZeMastor on March 01, 2016, 06:44:32 PMThere was this horror line by McFarlane toys that was really, really disgusting. It had highly detailed figures, but they were grotesquely and too realistically mutilated.
Ahhhh, the
Tortured Souls. Two series of them - the first wave hit in 2001. I loved those toys..."beautiful toys for ugly children" is what I call them. They looked great alongside the
Hellraiser figures. Now, I absolutely hated the
Hellraiser movies, but the toys were totally rad. I bought all of those things, and a couple of the larger format
Tortured Souls as well. Those toys were without a doubt, hands down, the most gruesome toys ever to hit mass market. I really miss the days when McFarlane was doing monsters, and no, I have zero interest in his
Walking Dead stuff.
Walking Dead doesn't interest me at all. In fact, I can't think of any modern day TV horror shows that I like...I think
X-Flies might have been the last one I watched.
Quote from: Rockshasa on February 27, 2016, 12:57:22 PM
You know...the toys that you look at and cannot understand why anyone would collect them? It has to be monster toy though - so don't say "superheroes" or "robots". etc. Soooo, the one sub-genre of monster toys that I just don't get are: the Mego-style figures. For the life of me, I just can't get into monster toys with Barbie-doll type clothing wrapped around them. Some of the really big Sideshow pieces produced many years ago do look nice. I own the London After Midnight and Frankenstein, and at that large scale they did manage to make the clothes fit nice and snug (and scale-like). But IMHO, the smaller 8" figures just look goofy with clothing, AND those massive and obvious joints look horrible. Usually, the only thing I find appealing about them is just the head sculpt, and that's about it.
Oh, and Godzilla toys. I don't know why, but I hate that monster...along with all of his films.
So, no arguments here. Just spout your monster toy pet peeve...
Since we are in the vintage section of the forum, I just never cared for monster jigglers. They always looked and felt cheap. Sort of like how I also feel about 8 inch action figures of the Mego style. They always feel very fragile and cheap when you've got them in your hands. I also prefer the 12" figures.
Quote from: Wicked Lester on March 01, 2016, 07:27:32 PMI can't count in Monster High because those are marketed to young girls(not us) and if that makes them want to watch at least one classic,so be it.
That's a large part of the reason why Monster High stuff bothers me not at all either. It's girl stuff!
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 01, 2016, 07:56:17 PM...I have zero interest in his Walking Dead stuff. Walking Dead doesn't interest me at all.
I'm with you there. I have no interest in
Walking Dead items, or any zombie stuff from the last 25 years for that matter.
cl:)
Quote from: Hepcat on March 01, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
That's a large part of the reason why Monster High stuff bothers me not at all either. It's girl stuff!
I'm with you there. I have no interest in Walking Dead items, or any zombie stuff from the last 25 years for that matter.
cl:)
I'm with you. I'm soooo zombied-out, that I'll only watch the original NOTLD going forward.
JP
Quote from: Hepcat on March 01, 2016, 08:36:09 PMThat's a large part of the reason why Monster High stuff bothers me not at all either. It's girl stuff!.......I'm with you there. I have no interest in Walking Dead items, or any zombie stuff from the last 25 years for that matter.
I bought the very first couple of Monster High dolls years ago. I thought they were kinda interesting (horror toys for girls), but I only bought them for investment, thinking, "If they take off and sell well, I'll have the first couple dolls produced". I never bought anymore though.....As for zombies, I've never really been into that genre of horror that much, and never cared for the Romero movies at all, or any of the Italian zombie flicks...just not into gross-out horror very much.
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 01, 2016, 07:56:17 PM
Ahhhh, the Tortured Souls. Two series of them - the first wave hit in 2001. I loved those toys..."beautiful toys for ugly children" is what I call them. They looked great alongside the Hellraiser figures. Now, I absolutely hated the Hellraiser movies, but the toys were totally rad. I bought all of those things, and a couple of the larger format Tortured Souls as well. Those toys were without a doubt, hands down, the most gruesome toys ever to hit mass market. I really miss the days when McFarlane was doing monsters, and no, I have zero interest in his Walking Dead stuff. Walking Dead doesn't interest me at all. In fact, I can't think of any modern day TV horror shows that I like...I think X-Flies might have been the last one I watched.
Yup. Just googled them and the horrific ones I saw were the
Tortured Souls sets. After saying "ewwwww!" a few times, I recall thinking that most living beings would be fortunate enough to die before being subjected to such horrific mutilation. Kept my money in my wallet. It takes quite a lurid imagination to come up with ideas like that.
And to think that parents were picketing Aurora in 1971 over the far-less-gory Monster Scenes kits!
It might have been around 2000-ish when I picked up a Frankenstein playset. Small figures, highly detailed props. I kept it stored in the garage until 3 years ago, when the office was having a Secret Santa White Elephant gift exchange. It eventually went to a co-worker who really liked it. Afterwards I found out that my *real* calling was for Spooky Kooky jigglers, and creating buildings, clothing and accessories for them.
Quote from: ZeMastor on March 01, 2016, 10:07:33 PMIt might have been around 2000-ish when I picked up a Frankenstein playset. Small figures, highly detailed props.
One of these perhaps? More McFarlane goodness...it was these playsets that kicked off the monster toy collecting bug in me, back in the late 1990's.
These things are awesome!! I still have both series MOC.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/mcfarlane-monsters-frankenstein-playset-4_zpsvhgo9ebh.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/drfrankensteinplayset_zpsdrzyulyj.jpg)
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 01, 2016, 10:23:56 PM
One of these perhaps? More McFarlane goodness...it was these playsets that kicked off the monster toy collecting bug in me, back in the late 1990's.
These things are awesome!! I still have both series MOC.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/mcfarlane-monsters-frankenstein-playset-4_zpsvhgo9ebh.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/drfrankensteinplayset_zpsdrzyulyj.jpg)
Yes, the playset on the top was the one I had, I think it was $8.99, and the office Secret Santa suggested white elephant gifts of around $10. The detailing of the set is really impressive, but my experience with McFarlane's KISS figures showed that their plastic had a tendency to be pretty brittle. When I read a review of the McFarlane Dracula playset (just now) I see that figure articulation was not one of their strong points. Beautiful sculpting, incredible detail, yes. But playability suffered.
Quote from: ZeMastor on March 01, 2016, 11:51:10 PM...but my experience with McFarlane's KISS figures showed that their plastic had a tendency to be pretty brittle. When I read a review of the McFarlane Dracula playset (just now) I see that figure articulation was not one of their strong points. Beautiful sculpting, incredible detail, yes. But playability suffered.
It has been my experience that all plastic action figures made in China after around 1990, are made with cheap/crappy plastic. It all looks good in the package, but once you take it out and try to stand it up there are issues. I can't tell you how many of my figures have one leg that is too short...mind you when I first took it out and set it up it was perfect. This cheap plastic settles over time, and if it's exposed to the least amount of temperature increase, the toy warps, usually one of it's legs shortens.
As far as playability, in the beginning, McFarlane wasn't really concerned about figure articulation in his toys. Honestly, I don't think he had in mind that his adult collectors were going to want to "play with" their toys. He was basically pumping out cool, highly-detailed, inexpensive, plastic "statues". But eventually he got word through the Spawn.com toy forums (RIP) that folks wanted to able to pose the things better. Eventually, he starting adding lots of articulation. In fact, his Predators were articulated rather nicely because I remember all the crazy positions people were posing them in on his toy forums. Also keep in mind, articulating a figure makes it cost more money to produce...more parts, more assembly time = more money.
Quote from: Count Zachula on February 28, 2016, 05:42:22 PM
They definitely LOOK like the Phantom, and none of them are poorly sculpted, but when I look at certain Frankenstein figures, or Creature figures, I can tell how accurate they are to the films and some of them just feel like they can come to life. The Phantoms never did that for me. I always felt they were just sculpted representations of him. The Sideshow bust is the best, I think, but the Sideshow 8 inch is too goofy for me, even the newer head they gave him for the Silver Screen version.
That's just me, guys! I'm too nitpicky :P
I think that's because from every angle or every gesture of his face Lon Chaney looked quite different throughout every shot of the film. So they're only going to be able to make a figure of one of his many expressions.
The Funko Wacky Wobblers bother me not at all. After all, bobbing head statuettes of athletes have been around since the fifties so I see nothing wrong with expanding the concept to other characters.
???
Quote from: Hepcat on March 02, 2016, 12:31:02 PM
The Funko Wacky Wobblers bother me not at all. After all, bobbing head statuettes of athletes have been around since the fifties so I see nothing wrong with expanding the concept to other characters.
???
What bothers me is that they're trying to call them "Wacky Wobblers".
Quote from: YoungestMonsterKid on March 02, 2016, 01:56:22 PM
What bothers me is that they're trying to call them "Wacky Wobblers".
Why shouldn't they?
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 02, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Why shouldn't they?
I just don't know why such a common piece of merchandise needs to be renamed when there's no copyright on the concept.
Quote from: YoungestMonsterKid on March 02, 2016, 01:56:22 PM
What bothers me is that they're trying to call them "Wacky Wobblers".
I think most companies do that. It's just what they call the series. NECA calls theirs "Headknockers". It's just a way to personalize their take on the line. I mean, why aren't "action figures" just called dolls. You think Barbie doesn't have any action (ask Ken)?
Quote from: YoungestMonsterKid on March 02, 2016, 02:33:26 PM
I just don't know why such a common piece of merchandise needs to be renamed when there's no copyright on the concept.
No, but they can TM the name.
Yeah, I know. But still that annoys me.
Anything post 1970 I do not care for. Only exception is the Kenner Alien doll, which is in a class by itself😃
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 01, 2016, 07:31:20 PM
Did you also hate Famous Monsters and Shock Theater?
Shock Theater was before my time. Sorta remember Screaming Yellow Theater. Loved Creature Features.
I didn't really get into F.M until H.S in the mid to late 70's. I had a tight budget as a kid and spent my reading money on Marvel and DC horror comics.
Quote from: Darkside1 on March 05, 2016, 12:30:02 AM
Anything post 1970 I do not care for. Only exception is the Kenner Alien doll, which is in a class by itself😃
So....Mego Mad Monsters, AHI Universal Monsters, etc?
Quote from: Darkside1 on March 05, 2016, 12:30:02 AM
Anything post 1970 I do not care for. Only exception is the Kenner Alien doll, which is in a class by itself😃
That's cool. There's nothing wrong with that. I love the 1960's toys too. Some folks like collecting from certain time periods. I guess it makes collecting easier as you don't have to weed through 40 years worth of toys, but the further you go back the pricier the items become, so I guess in some ways it has it's drawbacks too. To each his own.
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 05, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
That's cool. There's nothing wrong with that. I love the 1960's toys too. Some folks like collecting from certain time periods. I guess it makes collecting easier as you don't have to weed through 40 years worth of toys, but the further you go back the pricier the items become, so I guess in some ways it has it's drawbacks too. To each his own.
The Kenner Alien (1979) is probably one of most coolest toys from
late 70s. Imagine seeing THAT toy in toy aisles, for the first time as
a young tike. Wow!
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 05, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
The Kenner Alien (1979) is probably one of most coolest toys from
late 70s. Imagine seeing THAT toy in toy aisles, for the first time as
a young tike. Wow!
I know it's a holy grail for alot of folks out there, and I do like the
Alien franchise, and I own alot of Aliens, but that old Kenner Alien does nothing for me.
I'll take the NECA version that they did several years back. IMHO, a much better sculpt and better execution.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/NEC_18_INCH_ALIEN_zpsu4pisfl4.jpg)
And this one is really cool, but I refuse to pay over $100 for it. It's made of crappy NECA plastic, and will probably warp over time, after you take it out of the package and stand it up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/red-queen-box-01_zpsg4q5zabd.jpg)
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 05, 2016, 01:47:25 PM
I know it's a holy grail for alot of folks out there, and I do like the Alien franchise, and I own alot of Aliens, but that old Kenner Alien does nothing for me.
I'll take the NECA version that they did several years back. IMHO, a much better sculpt and better execution.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/smittyboy63/NEC_18_INCH_ALIEN_zpsu4pisfl4.jpg)
I have the NECK one, also. Neca's version is pretty rad. Did you have issues assembling the Alien? Like the legs?
LOL, he's still a MIB for me. I never took him out of the package.
On a side note, I love the 8" Predators too, but I can never figure out what to do with half of their accessories. Most of them can't be held or attached to the figures.
(http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mGm_YIxBd1PZEnwXlEsApDA.jpg)
They just did a complete resculpt for the big chap this year. He's fantastic. Loaded with articulation, and much less assembly to worry about. They're redoing predator next.
I am not a huge fan of any figures with obvious joints (which I must admit DOES encompass the vast majority of figures!). If they have clothes on (Frankenstein, Dracula, etc.) it's okay but for the "naked" ones where the elbows & knees are just "out there" for all to see, I always think takes away from the figure somewhat (which is my problem with most of the Creature figures). There were a few figures from back in the day (like I believe the Evel Knievel figures) who managed to have "hidden" joints, the knees & elbows were inside the rubber skin material, and I've often wondered why more toy makers do not do this, at least with figures like The Creature who can't hide the joints with clothes. Now, I know that most of these figures are made of a stiff plastic and can't really flex like the Evel figures, but maybe they could make the area around the elbows & knees a rubber material to give some flexing ability.
The problem is way compounded with those figures who seem to have like 3-4 rotatable joints in each appendage, where if they are not lined up perfectly makes the biceps, thighs, etc. look way wonky.
Obviously, visible joints are no a deal-breaker with me, as I have tons of figures with visible knee & elbow joints, but I sure with that the manufacturers could make put a bit more effort into hiding them.
Also, like a previous poster, not a fan of the figures with cloth "clothes" that always seem to look very odd, like the poor guy is wearing a sack-cloth! Especially when it's a figure, again like the Creature, the mummy, King Kong, etc. who don't wear clothes. The Lincoln, AHI, Mego, etc. figures are pretty bad offenders in this area (I have them in my collection of course, but really only for their rarity & collectible value, I really do not care for them), as are some of the newer ones like the Diamond Select "retro cloth" figures.
Quote from: japfeif on March 05, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
Also, like a previous poster, not a fan of the figures with cloth "clothes" that always seem to look very odd, like the poor guy is wearing a sack-cloth!
This is what doll clothes remind me of.
(http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/artman2/uploads/1/TH-BD-Big-Suit---WEB.jpg)
Doll clothes! Start Making Sense!
Quote from: Darkside1 on March 05, 2016, 12:30:02 AM
Anything post 1970 I do not care for. Only exception is the Kenner Alien doll, which is in a class by itself
The pre 70s stuff is so cheesy in comparison to Sideshow Or NECA. That was my era, but most of the toys were crappy (except Marx & Aurora).
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 05, 2016, 05:29:56 PM(http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/artman2/uploads/1/TH-BD-Big-Suit---WEB.jpg)
LOL, I was never a Talking Heads fan at all, although I had a number of close friends that liked them. David Byrne was too nerdy for me. Not only did I not like his look, but I didn't care for his voice either...I was listening to hard rock when the Heads were big.
Quote from: japfeif on March 05, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
I am not a huge fan of any figures with obvious joints...
Which is why I didn't buy a number of the Diamond Universal Monster's. When I see a rotating joint cut right through the thigh muscle that about kills it for me...it looks horrible.
Quote from: Mord on March 05, 2016, 09:08:39 PM
That was my era, but most of the toys were crappy (except Marx & Aurora).
But, there was plenty of cool monster stuff in the '60s that
wasn't figural!
Quote from: Mord on March 05, 2016, 09:08:39 PM
The pre 70s stuff is so cheesy in comparison to Sideshow Or NECA. That was my era, but most of the toys were crappy (except Marx & Aurora).
I love crappy 1960's toys. Sometimes old crappy toys are cool.
:)
I like most '60s stylized figures (MPC/Palmer/Nutty Mads/Niks), as well as realistic figures (Marx). I also like good quality modern jointed/clothed figures (Sideshow/DD).
Sorry I can't join the negativity-fest. Not. :P
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 05, 2016, 11:12:43 PM
I love crappy 1960's toys. Sometimes old crappy toys are cool.
:)
I think there more crappy 60s toys than well-built. But that is the charm of 60s toys.
Quote from: horrorhunter on March 05, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
Sorry I can't join the negativity-fest. Not. :P
We're not going to throw any more negativity fests if you keep that up.
Quote from: Mord on March 06, 2016, 01:30:38 PM
We're not going to throw any more negativity fests if you keep that up.
Gosh, darn it!!!
Quote from: horrorhunter on March 05, 2016, 11:41:06 PMSorry I can't join the negativity-fest. Not. :P
Least favorite monster toy collectible! This
is a negative thread , so you can get away with being negative here. Just don't be mean or nasty. If you don't like something...shout it out. I just didn't want this thread to turn into a bunch of arguments. It's a rant thread though...so you can rant and not worry about being flamed.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 06, 2016, 09:43:40 AM
I think there more crappy 60s toys than well-built. But that is the charm of 60s toys.
Especially the ones that survived intact.
JP
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 06, 2016, 01:46:56 PM
Least favorite monster toy collectible! This is a negative thread , so you can get away with being negative here. Just don't be mean or nasty. If you don't like something...shout it out. I just didn't want this thread to turn into a bunch of arguments. It's a rant thread though...so you can rant and not worry about being flamed.
Okay....
I'll be the first to admit it. I cannot stand Louis/Marx Great Garloo.
...and yes, it is a Holy Grail. Just not my Holy Grail( Blasphemy)
How can that crappy-looking toy be so sought-after. Rhetorical.
This is NOT a jab at Marx Toys. Most Marx Toys were really
cool.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 06, 2016, 02:22:40 PM
Okay....
I'll be the first to admit it. I cannot stand Louis/Marx Great Garloo.
...and yes, it is a Holy Grail. Just not my Holy Grail( Blasphemy)
How can that crappy-looking toy be so sought-after. Rhetorical.
This is NOT a jab at Marx Toys. Most Marx Toys were really
cool.
Mars, you might feel differently if you'd had a Garloo back them. Put yourself in a 9 or 10 year old mind set and have a look at the Great Garloo TV commercial. I teamed my Garloo up with my Kenner Girder and Panel construction set and it was like having my own living monster movie in my bedroom. It doesn't get much better than that.
Not a big Garloo fan either... Even less so that tall robot ( Big Lou)?
I'm not a "white mask" fan. I collect masks, but don't own a Michael Myers mask. If I were going to buy one, I'd buy a TOTS version. I don't understand people who have to have every (licensed or fan-made) MM mask ever produced. I love John Carpenter's Halloween. It is one of the greatest horror movies ever made. I like HII and HIII well enough. HIII is becoming something of a classic in its own right. I don't mind Rob Zombie's Halloween films, though I think they are misfires. But I can't stomach HIV, V, VI, H2O, or Resurrection. I really hate those films. I've tried to sit through them, but it is torture.
Can you have a worse movie title acronym than HIV?
Anyway, back to masks. I know there are collectors who obsessively fill entire rooms with MM masks. (They call them "white masks," for all of you who are not hip to the young folks' slang.) They will pay thousands of dollars for a fan-made MM mask that looks just like every other fan-made MM mask. And of course, the licensed MM masks are a disaster, save for the TOTS ones. And all those masks from the "middle" films were disasters on the screen, let alone as replicas.
I know there are people who obsess on Frankenstein or Creature and buy every little thing available on those characters, good or bad. But to have shelves full of 20 copies of the same blank, white face staring at you...I have a hard time identifying with that.
One of these days, I guess I should buy a TOTS Myers mask just to say I have one. One or two TOTS variants would be all the MM latex I'd ever need.
Quote from: Jim Bertges on March 06, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
Mars, you might feel differently if you'd had a Garloo back them. Put yourself in a 9 or 10 year old mind set and have a look at the Great Garloo TV commercial. I teamed my Garloo up with my Kenner Girder and Panel construction set and it was like having my own living monster movie in my bedroom. It doesn't get much better than that.
I've never had a Garloo. I'd like to have one eventually. Though I suspect that, if I haven't bought one by now, I probably never well. There were a few years when I was regularly searching ebay to find a deal on a mint-in-box example. If I had found one with an unpunched serving tray, I probably would have coughed up the money, as long as it was well under $1,000. But I've never seen an unpunched one for sale. Last I checked, which was a while ago, boxed ones were going for around $700. I remember they spiked and depreciated, as have a lot of collectibles over the last 15 years.
The Garloo had the same basic functions as the Marx Glenn Strange Frankenstein. I much preferred Frankie, but had no problem with Garloo. I looks very goofy today, but back in the day...
Garloo is one of those toys that I would like to have at the right price, but I won't come anywhere near spending what they seem to sell for. There are many high end monster toys that fall into that description for me. Stuff I never had as a kid, but exude that Monsterkid look and spirit that I love. I've recaptured the important stuff to me already. The rest is just gravy, but I'm not dropping a fortune on gravy.
Quote from: raycastile on March 06, 2016, 04:52:53 PM
I'm not a "white mask" fan. I collect masks, but don't own a Michael Myers mask. If I were going to buy one, I'd buy a TOTS version. I don't understand people who have to have every (licensed or fan-made) MM mask ever produced. I love John Carpenter's Halloween. It is one of the greatest horror movies ever made. I like HII and HIII well enough. HIII is becoming something of a classic in its own right. I don't mind Rob Zombie's Halloween films, though I think they are misfires. But I can't stomach HIV, V, VI, H2O, or Resurrection. I really hate those films. I've tried to sit through them, but it is torture.
Can you have a worse movie title acronym than HIV?
Anyway, back to masks. I know there are collectors who obsessively fill entire rooms with MM masks. (They call them "white masks," for all of you who are not hip to the young folks' slang.) They will pay thousands of dollars for a fan-made MM mask that looks just like every other fan-made MM mask. And of course, the licensed MM masks are a disaster, save for the TOTS ones. And all those masks from the "middle" films were disasters on the screen, let alone as replicas.
I know there are people who obsess on Frankenstein or Creature and buy every little thing available on those characters, good or bad. But to have shelves full of 20 copies of the same blank, white face staring at you...I have a hard time identifying with that.
One of these days, I guess I should buy a TOTS Myers mask just to say I have one. One or two TOTS variants would be all the MM latex I'd ever need.
I agree. As far as I'm concerned the original Halloween is THE only Halloween movie for me. A true classic. Don't even get me started on the Rob Zombie films. Ugh!
As far as the masks go, I bought one from Nightowl's Justin Mabry. I love it, and would never need to buy another one because the eye holes are 1/100 of an inch further apart, or whatever dumb reason why one mask is different from another. Amen on that one brother.
JP
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 06, 2016, 01:46:56 PMI just didn't want this thread to turn into a bunch of arguments. It's a rant thread though...so you can rant and not worry about being flamed.
Well that takes the fun out of it.
:(
Quote from: Jim Bertges on March 06, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
Mars, you might feel differently if you'd had a Garloo back them. Put yourself in a 9 or 10 year old mind set and have a look at the Great Garloo TV commercial. I teamed my Garloo up with my Kenner Girder and Panel construction set and it was like having my own living monster movie in my bedroom. It doesn't get much better than that.
Agreed! I got a brand new Great Garloo for X-mas when I was a kid. I thought it was the greatest toy ever conceived back then. A cherished childhood memory for me. That's the appeal of Garloo.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on March 07, 2016, 11:49:11 AM
Agreed! I got a brand new Great Garloo for X-mas when I was a kid. I thought it was the greatest toy ever conceived back then. A cherished childhood memory for me. That's the appeal of Garloo.
I completely agree with the nostalgia of owning a Great Garloo, and
the collectiblity. But in terms of aesthetics, that toy is looks awful.
Only my opinion. There are so many collectible toys I owned as a kid
at one time, that I would never want again. Nostalgia. Do collectors
in some instances only collect the the vintage toys because of
Nosalgia, or do they truly love the item for it's aethetic, not value?
Judging by the high prices being paid for Lincoln & Tomland figures, nostalgia s aesthetics.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 07, 2016, 01:51:04 PM
Do collectors
in some instances only collect the the vintage toys because of
Nosalgia, or do they truly love the item for it's aethetic, not value?
For me the underlying aesthetics and pedigree of being from that era really count. Many items are special just because of when they came out and the look they have because of that. They may not be realistic or accurate or even have the various pieces to a consistent scale, but that doesn't keep them from being beautiful to some of us. If you loved it as a kid because you had it or really wanted it, then that really ramps up the appeal.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 07, 2016, 01:51:04 PMThere are so many collectible toys I owned as a kid at one time, that I would never want again. Nostalgia. Do collectors
in some instances only collect the the vintage toys because of
Nosalgia, or do they truly love the item for it's aethetic, not value?
My own collecting efforts have long been based on four pillars:
1. Nostalgia
2. Aesthetics
3. Scarcity. I've always been inclined to gather up the tougher items.
4. Affordability. The lower the price, the better.
Points three and four taken together have always had me steering clear of those items that are expensive because of high demand.
cl:)
Quote from: Rockshasa on February 27, 2016, 12:57:22 PMYou know...the toys that you look at and cannot understand why anyone would collect them? It has to be monster toy though - so don't say "superheroes" or "robots". etc. Soooo, the one sub-genre of monster toys that I just don't get are: the Mego-style figures. For the life of me, I just can't get into monster toys with Barbie-doll type clothing wrapped around them.... But IMHO, the smaller 8" figures just look goofy with clothing, AND those massive and obvious joints look horrible. Usually, the only thing I find appealing about them is just the head sculpt, and that's about it.
I'm with you. I have no interest whatsoever in the AHI, Lincoln, Mego or whatever doll or action figures that were released after the sixties.
:-\
Quote from: Hepcat on November 13, 2020, 10:24:56 AM
I'm with you. I have no interest whatsoever in the AHI, Lincoln, Mego or whatever doll or action figures that were released after the sixties.
No Remco, Sideshow, Diamond, Super 7, or anything? There were no '60s monster "action figures."
While the modern "action" figures may be much improved in quality, I'm not likely to ever start buying them. Quite simply they're behind dozens of other monster-related collecting priorities on my list.
:-\
Funko Pops. I'd like to take a blowtorch to them. Lol
JP
I guess any of those toys that make the monsters into babies, or teenage girls.
Quote from: horrorhunter on March 05, 2016, 11:41:06 PM
I like most '60s stylized figures (MPC/Palmer/Nutty Mads/Niks), as well as realistic figures (Marx). I also like good quality modern jointed/clothed figures (Sideshow/DD).
Sorry I can't join the negativity-fest. Not. :P
Okay, this thread keeps rolling back around, so I'm gonna cave in and dip my toe into that pool of negative energy...
FUNKO POPS! >:D These things will never come near my collection, not even the Creature, and I buy Creature everything, just not a POP.
Funko Pops as opposed to Funko Wacky Wobblers or do you not distinguish between the two?
???
I'm guilty of having a Creature Pop, but only the regular version and I opened it and threw away the box, it was a gift. Beanie babies of the 2000's.
I would rather collect the vintage Ahi, Remco, Castex, Rapco, it's all vintage cheese.
So much was actually bootlegged early on and I like those pieces even more.
Paul
Quote from: horrorhunter on November 18, 2020, 09:30:12 PM
FUNKO POPS! >:D These things will never come near my collection, not even the Creature,
I have all 3 Creatures and I wish I had bought a crate of each! Have you seen what those are selling for!? :)
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 18, 2020, 11:50:00 PM
I have all 3 Creatures and I wish I had bought a crate of each! Have you seen what those are selling for!? :)
There are five Pop! Creatures, not including a package varition. And they certainly are expensive, aren't they? Well beyond my interest in them, anyway.
Even at original retail, I found a couple the Pops and the entire Funko Hikari line overpriced. Of course, the Hikari items didn't appreciate on the after-market the way the Pops have. There's even a digital version of the monsters, including the Creature, available for purchase (at least at one time) in Funko's mobile game. I keep wondering if a market is being set up for those as well.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on November 19, 2020, 12:41:05 AM
There are five Pop! Creatures, not including a package variation.
Oh yeah, the b/w and metallic b/w ones. They were only sold in sets, so I didn't get them.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on November 19, 2020, 12:41:05 AM
There's even a digital version of the monsters, including the Creature,
How do you put a digital version on a shelf? ;D
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 18, 2020, 11:50:00 PM
I have all 3 Creatures and I wish I had bought a crate of each! Have you seen what those are selling for!? :)
I just said I won't collect them. I buy anything I can turn a good profit on, even those off-putting things.
Quote from: Hepcat on November 18, 2020, 10:13:10 PM
Funko Pops as opposed to Funko Wacky Wobblers or do you not distinguish between the two?
???
The Wacky Wobblers are a different thing. Something about the head and eyes on those Pops that registers very negatively with me.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 18, 2020, 11:50:00 PMQuote from: horrorhunter on November 18, 2020, 09:30:12 PMFUNKO POPS! >:D These things will never come near my collection, not even the Creature, and I buy Creature everything, just not a POP.
I have all 3 Creatures and I wish I had bought a crate of each! Have you seen what those are selling for!?
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on November 19, 2020, 12:41:05 AMThere are five Pop! Creatures, not including a package varition.
I can't find a Funko Creature Pop. Just this Wacky Wobbler:
(https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/MainImage/STK449737)
Are you two using the two different terms for the different Funko lines interchangeably?
???
Quote from: Hepcat on November 18, 2020, 10:13:10 PM
Funko Pops as opposed to Funko Wacky Wobblers or do you not distinguish between the two?
???
Big distinction. These Wacky Wobblers are faves. ;)
(https://isaacspictureconclusions.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/evira1.gif?w=800)
Quote from: horrorhunter on November 19, 2020, 09:36:51 AMThe Wacky Wobblers are a different thing. Something about the head and eyes on those Pops that registers very negatively with me.
I agree. If you like cartoon characters, many of the Wacky Wobblers are very appealing:
Casper(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/WackyCasper_zps66bec9c5.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/General%20Album%202/WackyCasper_zps66bec9c5.jpg.html)
Hot Stuff (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/WackyHotStuff_zps26830420.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/General%20Album%202/WackyHotStuff_zps26830420.jpg.html)
Wendy(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/WackyWendy_zps2587aad4.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/General%20Album%202/WackyWendy_zps2587aad4.jpg.html)
Quisp(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/Wackquisp_copy1_zps2b7a0871.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/General%20Album%202/Wackquisp_copy1_zps2b7a0871.jpg.html)
Yummy Mummy(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Nodyummymummy.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/funko3.jpg)
Lucky(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/lucky-charms-funko-wacky-wobbler-nodder-bobblehead-lrg.png)
Sonny(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/cocoa_puffs__48539_zoom.jpg)
Trix(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Trix.jpg)
Rat Fink(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Funko%20Roth%202_zpsekyw7hok.jpg)
Surf Dude(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Surf_zpsfjm9xh5m.jpeg)
If and when I'm long retired and in no position to buy relatively more expensive comic mags, sports cards, model kits, board games, etc, I may start buying and collecting Wacky Wobblers of cartoon and comic characters I like.
:)
Quote from: horrorhunter on November 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
(https://isaacspictureconclusions.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/evira1.gif?w=800)
Yes. There's no question that Elvira is truly eye-popping.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/d6/2b/6ed62b739d8564df864cbc60e3ce6d40.gif)
;)