I know this clip has been done to death, but I still thought this was *hilarious*!!!
Downfall - The "Fripp" Problem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE1VzGLzYmM#ws)
Man, I can't get enough of this stuff!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Scatter on August 26, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
Man, I can't get enough of this stuff!! ;D ;D ;D
I like all the obscure prog references...
I love King Crimson. LOVE THEM. A huge inspiration on so many levels of musicality. Songwriting...musicianship...presentation. They are just so cool.
Hawkwind? Robert Calvert? Aphrodite's Child? 801?
Quote from: Inkfink on November 22, 2011, 09:58:24 AM
Hawkwind? Robert Calvert? Aphrodite's Child? 801?
Hawkwind is the only one from that list that I've heard of.
Some of my favorite prog bands are Crimson, Tull, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, and Gentle Giant. I get so sick of people generalizing prog as "elitist" music. These were simply talented musicians who wrote rather complicated music, versus the simple pop tunes that are radio fodder. If these musicians had lived in the 1700's they would have written what we call classical music. I personally like prog because of the imagery it evokes. Peter Sinfield especially wrote lyrics full of mind images.
Pretty much only firmiliar with Fripp though Eno
I'll always remember picking up 'No Pussyfooting' in '73 (think I was 16)
& having a wtf ??? moment...two years later with 'Evening Star' & Eno's
'Another Green World' & I couldn't get enough!
Love the 801 as well as the way too short lived Quiet Sun
Quiet Sun - Sol Caliente (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvXH6ycOtzE#)
That'd be Phil Manzanera's work. He was the guitarist for Roxy Music too.
I remember these musicians would switch from band to band. King Crimson is a good example. There used to be a book with band pedigrees. I wonder if that's online.
OMG that was great. I've never seen it before. The scariest part was I knew all the prog references lol.
Quote from: Illoman on November 22, 2011, 10:12:14 AM
Hawkwind is the only one from that list that I've heard of.
Robert Calvert was the resident poet for Hawkwind. When he left the band the first time, he was replaced by Michael Moorcock who had his own band called Deep Fix. After Bob came back and left a second time, he was replaced for one album by Roger Neville-Neil who was/is an old high school buddy of mine. Bob was thinking about returning again after the Xenon Codex album but tragically he died of a heart attack in 1988. If there are any fans out there, Hawkwind is featured on the next Classic Rock Presents Prog due out in the states. (It's already out in Britain.) The cover is a send up of the old album In Search of Space.
Quote from: Illoman on November 22, 2011, 10:12:14 AM
Some of my favorite prog bands are Crimson, Tull, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, and Gentle Giant. I get so sick of people generalizing prog as "elitist" music. These were simply talented musicians who wrote rather complicated music, versus the simple pop tunes that are radio fodder. If these musicians had lived in the 1700's they would have written what we call classical music. I personally like prog because of the imagery it evokes. Peter Sinfield especially wrote lyrics full of mind images.
Big, big prog fan here. Too many names to mention. Some of the newer ones I have gotten into are Big, Big Train and Mostly Autumn. BTW, Yes have a new album (it might already be out).
Was introduced to fripp when he, daryl hall and peter gabriel released a set of solo albums, all marketed as a "trilogy". Fripps album was called exposure and halls was sacred songs. Lots of "frippertronics" on both albums.
Each artist collaborated with the others on their albums.Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
Quote from: Zombiology on November 23, 2011, 08:48:39 AM
Yes have a new album (it might already be out).
Anybody remember FLASH? They sounded just like early YES and featured Peter Banks and Tony Kaye (both early YES members). They had 3 LPs in the early/mid '70s.
Quote from: drzeus on November 23, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
Was introduced to fripp when he, daryl hall and peter gabriel released a set of solo albums, all marketed as a "trilogy". Fripps album was called exposure and halls was sacred songs. Lots of "frippertronics" on both albums.
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At one time I had all three, but sold the Gabriel. Frippertronics is my favorite era of Fripp. Wish he would have done more in this manner. I have all his official releases with frippertronics on them and play them often.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 23, 2011, 03:14:01 PM
Anybody remember FLASH? They sounded just like early YES and featured Peter Banks and Tony Kaye (both early YES members). They had 3 LPs in the early/mid '70s.
Oh, yeah. Actually underrated or underheard (probably both) Yes had quite a few spin offs. I've always considered Asia to be in the family as well as Anderson, Wake, Howe which later merged with 80s Yes in the 90s.
Quote from: Zombiology on November 24, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
Yes had quite a few spin offs.
"Badger" was another one. They even had Dean cover art.
Quote from: Zombiology on November 24, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
. . as well as Anderson, Wake, Howe which later merged with 80s Yes in the 90s.
The only reason "Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe" (4 of 5 "classic" Yes members) weren't called "Yes" was because Chris Squire had the rights to the name and was going to tour as "Yes", but it didn't happen.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 24, 2011, 02:31:22 PM
The only reason "Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe" (4 of 5 "classic" Yes members) weren't called "Yes" was because Chris Squire had the rights to the name and was going to tour as "Yes", but it didn't happen.
Some of the history of this band is unfortunate with missed opportunites. Now that Anderson is out of the band, he has a new solo album out now as well.
An example of Peter Frame's Rock Family Trees:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/5183961817_775de9fe73_o.jpg)
See the better details here:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/5183961817_775de9fe73_o.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/5183961817_775de9fe73_o.jpg)
I used to have that book years ago. Wish I knew what happened to it.
Quote from: Zombiology on November 26, 2011, 02:48:05 AM
I used to have that book years ago. Wish I knew what happened to it.
What book was this in? I have a printed copy that came with the King Crimson box set Frame by Frame.
Pete Frame's Rock Family Trees books...
http://blog.familyofrock.com/index.php/whats-in-the-books/ (http://blog.familyofrock.com/index.php/whats-in-the-books/)
Quote from: Inkfink on November 26, 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Pete Frame's Rock Family Trees books...
http://blog.familyofrock.com/index.php/whats-in-the-books/ (http://blog.familyofrock.com/index.php/whats-in-the-books/)
Yep, that's it. Cool, I didn't know there were later editions. Thanks.
KING CRIMSON RULES !!!!
Quote from: Zardoz on November 28, 2011, 01:44:11 AM
KING CRIMSON RULES !!!!
Zardoz, ever see them? I only got to see them twice, once as ProjeKct Two and once as Crimson. Incredible shows, both of them! Fripp had this huge rack of electronics, and about a dozen foot pedals circling his bar stool. He would hit the string, and you could count to three before the sound made it out through the speakers! I stood about eight feet away from him, and the sound from that amazing guitar literally frightened me. It was so loud and ominous. Very emotional music.
Quote from: Illoman on November 28, 2011, 07:31:18 AM
Zardoz, ever see them? I only got to see them twice, once as ProjeKct Two and once as Crimson. Incredible shows, both of them! Fripp had this huge rack of electronics, and about a dozen foot pedals circling his bar stool. He would hit the string, and you could count to three before the sound made it out through the speakers! I stood about eight feet away from him, and the sound from that amazing guitar literally frightened me. It was so loud and ominous. Very emotional music.
No I never Had the Chance to see them I went to alot of good concerts back in the day but never King Crimson. But Still have 6 or 7 vinyl and about 8 CD's of their music one of my first progressive bands I ever bought and been hooked ever since . They are not for everybody but to the ones that really get it . This band really helped shap future progressive's and Metal. They were key in all this, Amazing!!! Fripp has been doing work with one of my favorite bands Porcupine Tree you might want to give them a listen I did and now I have over 50 CD's of their music and saw them twice already fantastic band that also loved king crimson..
Quote from: Zardoz on November 28, 2011, 01:05:43 PM
Fripp has been doing work with one of my favorite bands Porcupine Tree you might want to give them a listen I did and now I have over 50 CD's of their music and saw them twice already fantastic band that also loved king crimson..
Been getting into Porcupine Tree. Picked up In Absentia and I find myself being pulled by it every now and then. Wilson recently went over some of the back catalogue for King Crimson and worked on the masters.
I've heard *of* porcupine Tree but have never heard them. I have several No-Man cd's and like them a lot. Fripp plays on one of those as well.
Quote from: Illoman on November 28, 2011, 10:47:18 PM
I've heard *of* porcupine Tree but have never heard them. I have several No-Man cd's and like them a lot. Fripp plays on one of those as well.
I'd really recommend In Absentia but that is the only one I know. I would love to hear what others would recommend.
Out of the all the Porcupine Tree albums I would recommend:
The Sky Moves Sideways
Up the Downstair
Staircase infinities
Signify
Lightbulb Sun
Deadwing
I'm one of their biggest fans and these are some of my favorites in more of a Progressive , Floydish, Vein!!
Had to play In Absentia again this morning after this thread. Will take this list with my next time I go. Thanks, Zardoz.
Quote from: Zardoz on November 28, 2011, 01:05:43 PM
Porcupine Tree you might want to give them a listen I did and now I have over 50 CD's of their music
What!!! How long have these guys been around? I don't think The Stones even have 50 albums.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 29, 2011, 07:39:55 PM
What!!! How long have these guys been around? I don't think The Stones even have 50 albums.
Mike, ever hear of bootlegs? ::)
Quote from: Illoman on November 29, 2011, 07:45:25 PM
Mike, ever hear of bootlegs? ::)
Oh, those! I never considered those as real albums. Never cared for 98% of live albums, anyway.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 29, 2011, 07:54:53 PM
Oh, those! I never considered those as real albums. Never cared for 98% of live albums, anyway.
You know, I've got over a hundred and twenty Jethro Tull boots. I tried going through them to downsize, and found I just couldn't part with them for various reasons. Case in point: the 1972 Essen, Germany Tull show. The sound quality is a B at best, and I was about to chuck it when it came to their song "A New Day Yesterday". Martin Barre just *wails* on this tune. That is followed up by his guitar solo, which clocks in at over nine minutes. It is one of the most amazing solos I've ever heard him play. And if that bootlegger wasn't there to record it it would have been lost to history. I don't believe in selling boots, but am all for trading them. So many great moments that happen sometimes by chance have been preserved by these guys.
Ian Anderson was asked why he didn't film more of Tull's shows. He admitted that the band isn't always at their best, and chances are that's the night when you've hired the film crew, made the arrangements. etc. So maybe that's why they doctor up so many "live" official releases. I really don't care for Tull's official live album Bursting Out. When you compare it to some of the bootlegs there's no comparison.
Quote from: Illoman on November 29, 2011, 09:45:01 PM
I really don't care for Tull's official live album Bursting Out.
That's one I never bought. Not sure I've even heard it?
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 30, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
That's one I never bought. Not sure I've even heard it?
Some of the reasons I didn't care for it, was they took the tapes back into the studio and cleaned them up and added parts to it, thus it's not really a live album per se. Part of the charm of a Tull show is Ian Anderson's stage banter, and he gets censored on this. There's no Martin Barre guitar solo, which was one of the highlights of any Tull show. It just doesn't "feel" live to me, as it's too polished. There's so many boots which are better representations of their live shows.
Have not heard much Fripp but am a 30+ year fan of Kraut Rock and Prog. I first bought this on Vinyl like 32 years ago. Now on CD. Also a big fan of space rock.
CLEARLIGHT Symphony 02 Second Movement part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3dHFgGSKmQ#)
Magma
Bought this like 35 years ago. Prog/rock opera from I believe Switzerland.
MAGMA - Hortz Fur Dehn Stekehn West (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWNj51kGU8g#)
WOW! Now I am reliving some great memories. Had this over 30 years ago. Now I need to find a lot of this old stuff which is so $$$.
Omega - Perlen im Haar 1973 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1jGwwMFB4#)
If you are a fan of ELP you should like this...only more.
Pär Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions - Iconoclast - 1994 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4Gyu8keyU#)
Quote from: Wicked Lester on November 30, 2011, 09:11:23 PM
Have not heard much Fripp but am a 30+ year fan of Kraut Rock and Prog. I first bought this on Vinyl like 32 years ago. Now on CD. Also a big fan of space rock.
Magma
Bought this like 35 years ago. Prog/rock opera from I believe Switzerland.
Big fan of space rock here as well. Magma was one of the better ones. Also loved Hawkwind and of course early Pink Floyd.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 29, 2011, 07:39:55 PM
What!!! How long have these guys been around? I don't think The Stones even have 50 albums.
About 35 of my Porcupine Tree CD's are actual releases . The rest are live shows and studio outtakes.
These guy's are professional Musicians their live music is as good or better than their studio efforts !!!
Quote from: Zardoz on December 05, 2011, 03:30:58 PM
About 35 of my Porcupine Tree CD's are actual releases . The rest are live shows and studio outtakes.
These guy's are professional Musicians their live music is as good or better than their studio efforts !!!
That's the way some of Crimson's music was created: they would do an improvisation on stage, record it, and then it would be released on one of their albums as a studio track, even though it is actually a live performance. They would learn how to perform it and it would become part of heir set list. Usually bands do it the other way around. *That's* talent!!
Quote from: Wicked Lester on November 30, 2011, 09:32:04 PM
WOW! Now I am reliving some great memories. Had this over 30 years ago. Now I need to find a lot of this old stuff which is so $$$.
Omega - Perlen im Haar 1973 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1jGwwMFB4#)
If you are a fan of ELP you should like this...only more.
Pär Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions - Iconoclast - 1994 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4Gyu8keyU#)
There was another band on this label Called Nektar and their music was amazing. my favorites were Remember the future and recycled. thanks for the clip. it was awesome !!
I love Magma. Being a language nerd and all I loved that they constructed their own language. There were a few bands from that scene I love. Eros is one on the groups that stuck out to me.
Sorry, Eros is the album I loved from them. Dun was the band haha.
I've Been Listening to Eloy lately does anyone remember them ?
some of the best space/Kraut Rock ever in my opinion. Great 70's Band
Similar to Rush Just more spacey If You Like space rock this is the band.
Quote from: Zardoz on January 25, 2012, 04:03:25 PM
I've Been Listening to Eloy lately does anyone remember them ?
some of the best space/Kraut Rock ever in my opinion. Great 70's Band
Similar to Rush Just more spacey If You Like space rock this is the band.
I remember Eloy. Good band. Haven't listened to them in years though (since the days of vinyl). Have you had a chance to see any space rock live? Got a chance to see and hear Nik Turner do a live version of D-Rider that was awesome about fifteen years ago.
Quote from: Zombiology on January 25, 2012, 09:18:11 PM
I remember Eloy. Good band. Haven't listened to them in years though (since the days of vinyl). Have you had a chance to see any space rock live? Got a chance to see and hear Nik Turner do a live version of D-Rider that was awesome about fifteen years ago.
Never got to see Hawkwind but wanted too. I did get to see The Floyd,Porcupine Tree,Visual Audio Sensory Theater,Ozric Tentacles These all had their spacey moments.
I had a guy I worked with a few years ago loaned me a couple porcipine tree CD's. I thought they were boring stale crap and fell asleep several times. Whatever,YMMV. One man's crap is another man's treasure and PPT for me was pure you know what. u6juu
Quote from: Zardoz on January 30, 2012, 10:59:07 AM
Never got to see Hawkwind but wanted too. I did get to see The Floyd,Porcupine Tree,Visual Audio Sensory Theater,Ozric Tentacles These all had their spacey moments.
Had a chance to see Ozric. Had my tickets and everything. They played in Denver and were to come our way but a snow storm hit and they bypassed us to go to SF instead. Last time I had a chance, I had to work. One of these days... one of these days.... (It took me 20 years for the heavens to align and I actually got a chance to see Lemmy.)