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Title: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 01:34:03 AM
I might have to add this to my collection. Looks great. Resin. 1/6. Yagher.

(https://s10.postimg.org/8f2slqs3t/Mum_6.jpg)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 01:35:48 AM
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27657127_1563002703777651_6933861921314511292_n.jpg?oh=03b14e72c35850151b8abd9c5481b6b7&oe=5B12A4F5)

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27544872_1563002763777645_4415673875527326372_n.jpg?oh=94f118df22a256d95d8f8e2de732266d&oe=5B4DB6D3)

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27545350_1563003137110941_6245020512504203842_n.jpg?oh=cdcd30296ff6677e571ecb6ab8871ddf&oe=5B45F060)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Rogerbee on March 05, 2018, 05:49:04 AM

Indeed you should, when I'm on downtime, I like to live vicariously through the pages of this forum!

CHEERS!
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: the_horror_man on March 05, 2018, 02:13:53 PM
Wow! Is just the one available?

thm
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 02:34:48 PM
No...resin model. If you shoot me an email and I can set you up with the producer's info.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman on March 05, 2018, 02:50:01 PM
That's sweet!

JP
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: StyreneDude on March 05, 2018, 03:48:05 PM
My kit just arrived today...and again, as with my last Rebel Resin kit, great sculpt ruined by absolutely terrible casting. To top it off there's gobs of putty all over it in a half assed attempt to fix it.

I've already emailed for a replacement. This is exactly how it arrived...I'm sorry but for almost $200 I expect better quality than this.

(https://s25.postimg.org/sikj0rq7z/DSC04235.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vpf2keanv/)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 03:59:44 PM
Well....that's a bummer. Oh well. easy come, easy go. Guess I can live without it.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: StyreneDude on March 05, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 03:59:44 PM
Well....that's a bummer. Oh well. easy come, easy go. Guess I can live without it.

Yeah, I just heard back from him....he told me to just return the kit for a refund, and asked if I could do better. Wow.
I explained to him that I can't do better, but then again I'm not a kit producer.

Unreal.

Update...this guy's second reply absolutely floored me. He explained that the kit is full of air bubbles, and that they could have been prevented, but it's quote: "too pricey" to cast them right.
Soooo...charge another $5-10 per kit?
That's the last kit I buy from Rebel Resin.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 05:49:57 PM
They pay for some good sculpts to be sure....but the casting sometimes can be a tad rough. if not downright ghastly. I don't like messing with seam lines, air bubbles, pinholes and stuff.  I really just wanna wash it and paint it when I get a kit. That's why I do not buy many. Too much prep. If I am not mistaken they did the Vincent Price Shrunken Apple Head tribute. I bought one after seeing the finished example with the metal nameplate. The actual kit....does not come with a metal nameplate,lol. It had some EXTREMELY rough spots too....but I did a work around.

PROMO PIC THAT INSPIRED ME TO GET ONE:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7e/9d/4f/7e9d4f69941c11db40a00626e32906dc--apple-head-vincent-price.jpg)

RAW:

(https://i.imgur.com/88DEuFS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HUoFHFR.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/202064858073-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/313ZTyd.jpg)


MINE:

(https://i.imgur.com/7LwGE5h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oVmmltJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vEfLdXe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ldK6vHP.jpg)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Herr Hussmann on March 06, 2018, 11:28:20 AM
That's a great piece and I fondly remember the comic book ad, drawn by Mort Drucker, no less!

Sorry about the problems you had with your kit, SD. For what it's worth, this is the first time I've seen closeup pics of the Kharis kit and I'm absolutely floored by the likeness!
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 12:08:23 PM
Agreed....Yagher knocked it out of the park. But the casting is a turn off. No one wants to do hours of prep work before getting to paint it.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 01:18:16 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 12:08:23 PM
Agreed....Yagher knocked it out of the park. But the casting is a turn off. No one wants to do hours of prep work before getting to paint it.
I painted many of there kits before never had a issue with casting.Just to name a few not this way quicksand,the fly,ghoul,Vincent price shrunken head kit.It could be the molds for the base weren't properly done.If so that is easily corrected with new molds.But these are garage kits! My first was a mermaid kit of the creature super deformed you want to talk about bad castings?I seen some lou,lou's in the 80's that make any modeler cringe.Now if you want out of the box perfect & ect then a alternative route is sideshow collectibles.We have to remember these are Garage kits made by a one person and not produced in a factory.So sometimes mistakes happen that can be corrected if all parties involved act like civilized individuals.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: StyreneDude on March 06, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 01:18:16 PM
I painted many of there kits before never had a issue with casting.Just to name a few not this way quicksand,the fly,ghoul,Vincent price shrunken head kit.It could be the molds for the base weren't properly done.If so that is easily corrected with new molds.But these are garage kits! My first was a mermaid kit of the creature super deformed you want to talk about bad castings?I seen some lou,lou's in the 80's that make any modeler cringe.Now if you want out of the box perfect & ect then a alternative route is sideshow collectibles.We have to remember these are Garage kits made by a one person and not produced in a factory.So sometimes mistakes happen that can be corrected if all parties involved act like civilized individuals.

I agree completely. Unfortunately in this case, civility went out the window pretty quick. This was the second kit I received from Rebel Resin with major casting flaws. The first was the Mummy's Ghost half scale bust, which had an entire large section of bandage missing on the hand. I tried to fill it in and reculpt it myself, but I'm not a sculptor. If I was I'd make my own kits not buy someone else's. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't match the sculpted texture. It looked like crap. So, I contacted the producer and sent them pics of the bad hand, and they charged me $30 for a replacement of THEIR poor casting work. In the pic I posted above, there's no way I can deal with all that putty and resculpt all that lost beautiful wood grain to match. Rebel Resin refused to replace the part, so I had to take it up with Paypal. I'm probably going to end up paying someone to reconstruct the base exactly using real wood.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Well like mentioned the casting's that received were fine with me and had no problemo's.Just wanted to point that out same with resincrypts castings that you mentioned were bad in another thread.Vinny at resincrypt exchanged parts with me no problemo aswell.Now if you told me Resin from the Grave now that's a whole story by itself(lol)!
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 01:56:21 PM
Quote from: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Well like mentioned the casting's that received were fine with me and had no problemo's.Just wanted to point that out same with resincrypts castings that you mentioned were bad in another thread.Vinny at resincrypt exchanged parts with me no problemo aswell.Now if you told me Resin from the Grave now that's a whole story by itself(lol)!

Hahahaha! Resin from the Grave????  Hoo Boy, do I remember those days. I think mark Brokaw has spoiled a lot of us. me anyway. His casting is nearly flawless. So when one shows up that has a lot of prep work, its easy to feel ripped. As you can see...I made the Vinney Shrunken head look pretty good once all was said and done. But prep work is a downer for me. I have OCD so bad that I glue custom craft felt to the bottom of my resin kits for a proper finish. So things like SD is describing bug me because I know I will have to hide any defects to be "satisfied" with the finished piece. Especially if I am the builder and painter, as I am my own worst critic.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: StyreneDude on March 06, 2018, 03:31:23 PM
Mark Brokaw, Paul Gill, John Tucky, and Randy Lambert are the four top kit casters out there IMO. You don't have to do anything but wash them and start painting.


Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: StyreneDude on March 06, 2018, 03:31:23 PM
Mark Brokaw, Paul Gill, John Tucky, and Randy Lambert are the four top kit casters out there IMO. You don't have to do anything but wash them and start painting.
You missed two names Todd Powell and Brian Mcquire
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 01:56:21 PM
Hahahaha! Resin from the Grave????  Hoo Boy, do I remember those days. I think mark Brokaw has spoiled a lot of us. me anyway. His casting is nearly flawless. So when one shows up that has a lot of prep work, its easy to feel ripped. As you can see...I made the Vinney Shrunken head look pretty good once all was said and done. But prep work is a downer for me. I have OCD so bad that I glue custom craft felt to the bottom of my resin kits for a proper finish. So things like SD is describing bug me because I know I will have to hide any defects to be "satisfied" with the finished piece. Especially if I am the builder and painter, as I am my own worst critic.
You might remember the old Amber colored resin back in the day kit producers would use.The smell of that type resin when taking a dremil to it the fumes would knock ya out.lol
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
Quote from: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 03:55:19 PM
You might remember the old Amber colored resin back in the day kit producers would use.The smell of that type resin when taking a dremil to it the fumes would knock ya out.lol

I also remember countless phone calls to the owner. Think his name was Mike Fosella or some such. Took me forever (IE months!) to get a kit I ordered from them. When I got it....it was, well...crap. So I traded it off. never ordered another thing from them again,lol. I really wish Mark would've released a Wolfman in his big head series. I like those.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 06:10:48 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
I also remember countless phone calls to the owner. Think his name was Mike Fosella or some such. Took me forever (IE months!) to get a kit I ordered from them. When I got it....it was, well...crap. So I traded it off. never ordered another thing from them again,lol. I really wish Mark would've released a Wolfman in his big head series. I like those.
George at www.blackheartmodels.com (http://www.blackheartmodels.com) did a 360 bust and a wall hanger of the Chaney Wolfman 1.1 scale
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 06:10:48 PM
George at www.blackheartmodels.com (http://www.blackheartmodels.com) did a 360 bust and a wall hanger of the Chaney Wolfman 1.1 scale

I've seen that, and I have been tempted....but there's just something about the angle of the head that dissuades me from trying for one. If that even makes any sense,lol.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 06, 2018, 08:23:09 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
I've seen that, and I have been tempted....but there's just something about the angle of the head that dissuades me from trying for one. If that even makes any sense,lol.
It's a personal fave of mine.Yagher caught that squinty eye of Chaney  when ,he's in Wolfman mode.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 08:28:19 PM
Did you post pics here?
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 07, 2018, 02:16:47 AM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 08:28:19 PM
Did you post pics here?
Yap or you can try my facebook account have pics there aswell.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 07, 2018, 03:32:39 AM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 06, 2018, 08:28:19 PM
Did you post pics here?
Just incase you couldnt find the pic or my facebook page.Here ya go pic of one did couple years ago.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL171/9373433/17143561/413802177.jpg)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 07, 2018, 10:53:58 AM
GREAT PAINTS! LOVE THE EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 08, 2018, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 07, 2018, 10:53:58 AM
GREAT PAINTS! LOVE THE EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: FrankFan95 on March 17, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Yeah it's a great sculpt but as before with Rebel Resin every time I received a kit it smelled like bad smoke and had alot of cleaning up to do that's why I don't order more often from Tony.

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Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: StyreneDude on March 18, 2018, 10:22:38 PM
Quote from: FrankFan95 on March 17, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Yeah it's a great sculpt but as before with Rebel Resin every time I received a kit it smelled like bad smoke and had alot of cleaning up to do that's why I don't order more often from Tony.

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Yeah the cigarette smoke is a whole other issue. My wife is really sensitive to it and every box I've gotten from him reeks of it.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: the_horror_man on March 18, 2018, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: StyreneDude on March 18, 2018, 10:22:38 PM
Yeah the cigarette smoke is a whole other issue. My wife is really sensitive to it and every box I've gotten from him reeks of it.

Receiving new or any collectible reeking of smoke is unacceptable. It ruins the piece. It can never be displayed unless it is in a case or bag. If not and left in the open, it will fill the whole room and even other rooms in your home with smoke smell. It is a disgusting smell. Sometimes an item can be treated, but most of the time, the smoke smell still remains.

I have thought for years that any site you buy from, particularly ebay, should have a "smoking" or "non smoking home" condition listed. They have new, pre owned and used. Smoking or non smoking should also be listed.

thm
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 18, 2018, 10:53:52 PM
I had some stuff in my hands to buy at a flea market one day. They smelled. I asked the vendor: "What's with the smell?". He replied "I got those off of Ole Smokey Sean". No sale. When a guy goes to sell his collectibles at a flea market, and the vendors know its gonna stink the place up.....and even nickname the dude "Ole Smokey"....why bother to even have the items brought into your shop.?I had asthma and croup as well as many bouts with bronchitis in my lifetime due to family smoking when I was a child. Never going back to those days. The smell makes me ill. :angel:
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: FrankFan95 on March 19, 2018, 02:36:18 PM
It's a problem for his business in my opinion the smoke smell is horrendous luckily cleaning it up with dishwasher soap and deep scrubbing helped the smell get out of the piece itself but still it was ridiculous. Right now the owner of Rebel Resin is on a whole rant on Facebook over Dan Fuller for recasting his pieces apparently. He posts here under the name DirtyHose correct?

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Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Joseph_Baeza on March 19, 2018, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: FrankFan95 on March 19, 2018, 02:36:18 PM
It's a problem for his business in my opinion the smoke smell is horrendous luckily cleaning it up with dishwasher soap and deep scrubbing helped the smell get out of the piece itself but still it was ridiculous. Right now the owner of Rebel Resin is on a whole rant on Facebook over Dan Fuller for recasting his pieces apparently. He posts here under the name DirtyHose correct?

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Tony is on fire over Dan Fuller on FB, and it has apparently caused a lot of Dan's FB friends to either unfriend him or block him from certain FB groups that he posts to.  I've purchased all of Yagher's monster magnet heads from Tony/Resin Rebel, and I can see that Tony's castings are sometimes sloppy.  A couple of the heads came with dye on them, and one without magnets, but Tony has always been cool about getting them replaced when I have an issue.  Although I would prefer not to have to deal with ANY issues when I buy something, I understand that Tony is a one man show and mistakes will be made.  As for Dan (Dirtyhorse), I don't know the guy personally; he is obviously an exceptionally talented painter/artist and seems like a nice guy on UMA, but if he is re-casting stuff and selling on eBay, that just ain't cool.  He would be messing with some people's financial livelihoods if that were the case.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 19, 2018, 05:37:43 PM
Just read the Facebook ordeal. Re-casting BAD. Monsters good.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: FrankFan95 on March 20, 2018, 05:40:51 AM
Quote from: Joseph_Baeza on March 19, 2018, 04:53:39 PM
Tony is on fire over Dan Fuller on FB, and it has apparently caused a lot of Dan's FB friends to either unfriend him or block him from certain FB groups that he posts to.  I've purchased all of Yagher's monster magnet heads from Tony/Resin Rebel, and I can see that Tony's castings are sometimes sloppy.  A couple of the heads came with dye on them, and one without magnets, but Tony has always been cool about getting them replaced when I have an issue.  Although I would prefer not to have to deal with ANY issues when I buy something, I understand that Tony is a one man show and mistakes will be made.  As for Dan (Dirtyhorse), I don't know the guy personally; he is obviously an exceptionally talented painter/artist and seems like a nice guy on UMA, but if he is re-casting stuff and selling on eBay, that just ain't cool.  He would be messing with some people's financial livelihoods if that were the case.
Tony is definitely on fire about it I cannot blame him either if he's truly recasting his stuff. But again Tony is a nice guy and will fix or replace your order I can agree he's got good service but the smoke smell needs to be controlled and stuff it ain't right. The cast being a bit messy I can slide and understand one man duty.
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 19, 2018, 05:37:43 PM
Just read the Facebook ordeal. Re-casting BAD. Monsters good.
I agree.

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Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Sir Spooks-A-Lot on March 20, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
Is there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: FrankFan95 on March 20, 2018, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: Sir Spooks-A-Lot on March 20, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
Is there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.
I have no clue if true or not honestly.

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Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 20, 2018, 07:20:57 PM
It's been a confirmed topic of discussion on The Clubhouse forums for some time unfortunately. Great painter though.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: StyreneDude on March 21, 2018, 06:07:35 AM
Quote from: Sir Spooks-A-Lot on March 20, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
Is there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.

Yes, the heads from at least three of Gillman Productions busts currently in production including the Shining were recast and turned into magnets. The pics were posted here but have since disappeared.

Here are a few recent examples posted here by Dan himself...

The head of Dr. Pretorius from the "I Love Dead" kit was recast to make a custom figure, and the Frankenstein magnet is obviously recast from the Tony McVey kit.

(https://s25.postimg.org/5zy1va77z/Dirtydan3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s25.postimg.org/9wbdr9khr/Dirtydan1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://s25.postimg.org/3vdou6q5r/Dirtydan2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: FrankFan95 on March 21, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
Yeah dude has talent just wasn't cool to recast.

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Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 21, 2018, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: FrankFan95 on March 21, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
Yeah dude has talent just wasn't cool to recast.

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I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately if someone has talent, people tend to overlook their bad behavior. AKA they "get a pass". I never understood the concept of this myself,lol.  Dang shame about the re-casting. Seems more money would be made simply painting others kits in droves and having a solid rep.

Not my row to hoe, as I have never consigned Mr. Fuller for any work, and have only 2 things he has done in my collection, neither of which are re-casts. One is a painted PE Lee Dracula doll head, and the other a Six Strings Wolfman kit that I am 100% certain is the real McCoy.

Bottom Line:  If folks don't trust you to paint their stuff without fear of funny business, they will stop sending it.  :-X

Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: FrankFan95 on March 21, 2018, 03:34:57 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 21, 2018, 01:24:58 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately if someone has talent, people tend to overlook their bad behavior. AKA they "get a pass". I never understood the concept of this myself,lol.  Dang shame about the re-casting. Seems more money would be made simply painting others kits in droves and having a solid rep.

Not my row to hoe, as I have never consigned Mr. Fuller for any work, and have only 2 things he has done in my collection, neither of which are re-casts. One is a painted PE Lee Dracula doll head, and the other a Six Strings Wolfman kit that I am 100% certain is the real McCoy.

Bottom Line:  If folks don't trust you to paint their stuff without fear of funny business, they will stop sending it.  :-X
I highly agree!

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Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: knewby on March 21, 2018, 04:03:41 PM
Not trying to stir the pot with recasting and not...but...I find it a tad hypocritical if one is selling unlicensed Unimonsters and complaining.....just my two cents...not condoning recasting at all..just sayin'. I get that it is "stealing" by recasting but isn't it "stealing" if one is selling Universal Monsters without paying royalties?
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Anton Phibes on March 21, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
Nope.This is a hobby....not a business. The garage kit hobby is literally kept alive by a small handful of sculptors and producers. From what I understand, the sales of said kits basically have all these fellas making precious little bank, usually used to pay for the next sculpt and materials.  Sculptors are the only ones who actually get any real cash, and even then.....sometimes that isn't even true.

So, when someone else makes an inferior copy: then passes it off as an actual cast (rather than the pit hole filled, smaller, less detailed, and generally crappy recast it is), no one wins but the re-caster. Even the customer gets hosed because one day he sees the original version of the kit and realizes his is smaller, covered in pits, has less detail, and the deal he or she thought they were getting was not existent. They were actually being taken advantage of.

Meanwhile, actual kit sales perform sub-par, and the cycle of being able to have new kits sculpted is interrupted or ceased, and said "company" (a guy in his garage) simply declare the venture not worth their time and quit. As multiple kit makers have done. Re-casting is bottom feeding and destroys the hobby in the long run for a quick buck. The end. 
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Wolfman66 on March 21, 2018, 06:41:18 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 21, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
Nope.This is a hobby....not a business. The garage kit hobby is literally kept alive by a small handful of sculptors and producers. From what I understand, the sales of said kits basically have all these fellas making precious little bank, usually used to pay for the next sculpt and materials.  Sculptors are the only ones who actually get any real cash, and even then.....sometimes that isn't even true.

So, when someone else makes an inferior copy: then passes it off as an actual cast (rather than the pit hole filled, smaller, less detailed, and generally crappy recast it is), no one wins but the re-caster. Even the customer gets hosed because one day he sees the original version of the kit and realizes his is smaller, covered in pits, has less detail, and the deal he or she thought they were getting was not existent. They were actually being taken advantage of.

Meanwhile, actual kit sales perform sub-par, and the cycle of being able to have new kits sculpted is interrupted or ceased, and said "company" (a guy in his garage) simply declare the venture not worth their time and quit. As multiple kit makers have done. Re-casting is bottom feeding and destroys the hobby in the long run for a quick buck. The end.
Well said Anton Phibes!Garage kit makers do not make money.I know was one of them its not to get rich.If that was  case everyone would be doing it(lol).Now if you do a search on the said person on this board they recasted Vincent Prices life cast and memory serves me correct Vincent Prices daughter owns those life casts of her late Father.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: drthomasholmes on March 21, 2018, 07:34:18 PM
Dan Fuller/dirtyhorse is a well-known recaster. He's on facebook and has been booted from pretty much every model board. He has ripped off friends of mine, yes there's evidence.
What he does now is posts in general monster collecting forums, offering easy-to-recast magnets and stuff. Newbies don't know any better, and they buy.
He also is known for getting painting commissions, then taking the kit that was sent to him and recasting it. He paints a recast, sends THAT ONE to the unknowing customer, and keeps the original for himself.
He joins facebook groups, and once in, he blocks the mods and admins so that they don't even know he's posting.

This was all pointed out a while ago here on this board, and the powers that be took no action, even though they knew what he was doing.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Palifan on March 22, 2018, 12:49:17 PM
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Quote from: drthomasholmes on March 21, 2018, 07:34:18 PM
Dan Fuller/dirtyhorse is a well-known recaster. He's on facebook and has been booted from pretty much every model board. He has ripped off friends of mine, yes there's evidence.
What he does now is posts in general monster collecting forums, offering easy-to-recast magnets and stuff. Newbies don't know any better, and they buy.
He also is known for getting painting commissions, then taking the kit that was sent to him and recasting it. He paints a recast, sends THAT ONE to the unknowing customer, and keeps the original for himself.
He joins facebook groups, and once in, he blocks the mods and admins so that they don't even know he's posting.

This was all pointed out a while ago here on this board, and the powers that be took no action, even though they knew what he was doing.


:o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: MonsterBoy7 on March 22, 2018, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: Sir Spooks-A-Lot on March 20, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
Is there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.

When a product is being shown by a painter (Dirty Horse) which is being produced by someone else and the painter ( Dirty Horse) is telling the people who are complimenting his paint work that all they need to do is message him when they ask where can I get one? I would say pretty sure he is supplying the people who are asking where they can get it. Dirty Horse is not the one making the recasts,that is done by his friend Rick Muncy.  A shame really it has come to this.
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Hepcat on January 29, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: Sir Spooks-A-Lot on March 20, 2018, 11:20:52 AMIs there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.

Who were the jerks who mentioned the UMA in an unfriendly light? Are any of them board members here?

>:(
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Hepcat on January 29, 2019, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: knewby on March 21, 2018, 04:03:41 PMNot trying to stir the pot with recasting and not...but...I find it a tad hypocritical if one is selling unlicensed Unimonsters and complaining.....just my two cents...not condoning recasting at all..just sayin'. I get that it is "stealing" by recasting but isn't it "stealing" if one is selling Universal Monsters without paying royalties?

I agree. Thieves stealing from thieves.

I've always maintained that the best and only way to sidestep the whole crooked business is to stick to buying only model kits made from styrene plastic. Not only are these made from the classic plastic and actually come in dozens of parts like a proper model kit, but my understanding is that the recasters and other pirates and thieves don't produce styrene plastic kits because the machinery necessary requires a far greater capital investment than the fast buck operators are willing to consider.

C:)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Hepcat on January 29, 2019, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: drthomasholmes on March 21, 2018, 07:34:18 PMThis was all pointed out a while ago here on this board, and the powers that be took no action, even though they knew what he was doing.

That's because the "powers that be" on this board have made it very clear from the very start that the recasting controversy was NOT welcome on this board because they'd seen it destroy far too many other discussion groups:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=6540.msg104598#msg104598 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=6540.msg104598#msg104598)

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=12621.msg202915#msg202915 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=12621.msg202915#msg202915)

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16804.msg266782#msg266782 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16804.msg266782#msg266782)

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16838.msg267303#msg267303 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16838.msg267303#msg267303)

So take your feuds elsewhere. I've put a lot of effort into this forum over the years and I don't take kindly to those with a certain particular ax to grind trying to take this board down for their own personal reasons.

>:(
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Hepcat on November 30, 2019, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: drthomasholmes on March 21, 2018, 07:34:18 PMHe joins facebook groups, and once in, he blocks the mods and admins so that they don't even know he's posting.

That's puzzling. I just say "No!" to Facebook so I'm not really familiar with its workings. But I thought that only the creator of Facebook groups could blackball other Facebook members from joining the Group.

???
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Mitchellmania on December 03, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on March 05, 2018, 05:49:57 PM
They pay for some good sculpts to be sure....but the casting sometimes can be a tad rough. if not downright ghastly. I don't like messing with seam lines, air bubbles, pinholes and stuff.  I really just wanna wash it and paint it when I get a kit. That's why I do not buy many. Too much prep. If I am not mistaken they did the Vincent Price Shrunken Apple Head tribute. I bought one after seeing the finished example with the metal nameplate. The actual kit....does not come with a metal nameplate,lol. It had some EXTREMELY rough spots too....but I did a work around.

PROMO PIC THAT INSPIRED ME TO GET ONE:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7e/9d/4f/7e9d4f69941c11db40a00626e32906dc--apple-head-vincent-price.jpg)
Wow! I had the apple sculpture set! Is this model still available?


RAW:

(https://i.imgur.com/88DEuFS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HUoFHFR.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/202064858073-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/313ZTyd.jpg)


MINE:

(https://i.imgur.com/7LwGE5h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oVmmltJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vEfLdXe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ldK6vHP.jpg)
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Mike Scott on December 03, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Did you have anything to ad to that post, Mitchellmania?
Title: Re: Yagher Kharis.
Post by: Hepcat on December 09, 2019, 10:02:21 AM
Evidently not.

:-\