This is going to sound ridiculous...but I am curious....

Toy Ranch · May 28, 2009, 09:30:17 AM

Quote from: Wich2 on May 28, 2009, 09:20:59 AM
When someone has lived a long, fruitful life - whether it be a relative we know, or a beloved celeb that we feel we do - I usually feel more of a thankfullness for what they gave, than a grief because they have moved on.

Most folks, if their life is long, have accumulated plenty of the "thousand natural shocks that the flesh is heir to." And whether that be St. Peter's yearning for the wife who went before, Dear Boris's ailing legs & lungs, or Forry's general debilitation, I would never wish for them to continue to in this veil of tears for my sake.

Celebrate what has gone before - and if you are a person who, in any form, believes such, look forward to seeing them in a better world.

Best,
-Craig W.

That's how I look at it, too. I'm thankful we had Forry as long as we did, but all things must pass and all of them live through their legacy and what they left us.

Scatter · May 28, 2009, 09:38:17 AM

Well, I don't grieve as one who has no hope, but I still grieve their absence. I know my dad is in heaven, and I know he's better off there than suffering here, but that doesn't mean I don't still mourn for the loss of his immediate company, or being able to look forward to making new memories.

It's a false dichotomy to suggest that one EITHER celebrates a life OR mourns their absence. One thing for sure, we're all better off for having had folks like Forry and Price touch our lives. What better thing can be said for anyone??

hammerfan · May 28, 2009, 10:40:15 AM

Indeed, Forry's legacy touched us all I am sure. Without FM I doubt that most of us here would be monster kids. Forry to me, was that kooky uncle who would bring you the present that you really wanted even if you hadnt asked for it. He made me smile and enthralled me for years. The old photos, the bad puns, the corny bylines. It all was a wonderful part of growing up. I feel sorry for kids today. Their icons tend to be half-a**ed pop singers and bisexual anorexic celebs. Or the newest hero from a video game.

Paul L · May 28, 2009, 11:48:43 AM

Quote from: hammerfan on May 28, 2009, 10:40:15 AM
I feel sorry for kids today. Their icons tend to be half-a**ed pop singers and bisexual anorexic celebs. Or the newest hero from a video game.

I'm in heartfelt agreement. No time, no era is perfect: I once overheard my grandfather state that , "the only thing good about the 'good old days' is that they're gone". Still, I'm so grateful to have come up in the time when I/we did.

Wich2 · May 28, 2009, 01:27:02 PM

Oh to be sure, Scatter - it's not "either/or." But as I wrote above -

"I usually feel more of a thankfullness for what they gave, than a grief"

- I try to do one more of the one than the other.

Best,
-Craig
(Who just lost a beloved uncle in a motorcycle accident)

Scatter · May 28, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

Quote from: Wich2 on May 28, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
Oh to be sure, Scatter - it's not "either/or." But as I wrote above -

"I usually feel more of a thankfullness for what they gave, than a grief"

- I try to do one more of the one than the other.

Best,
-Craig
(Who just lost a beloved uncle in a motorcycle accident)

I agree entirely Craig.........I guess I just feel the loss more keenly around important anniversaries. And please accept my condolences on the (temporary) loss of your uncle. My heart goes out to you and your family my friend.

Wich2 · May 28, 2009, 02:35:36 PM

Thanks, Scatter.

He was nearing 70, and had recently gotten a particularly nasty cancer diagnosis. So the fact that he went quickly, doing something he loved, was likely something of a blessing.

-Craig

poseablemonster · May 28, 2009, 02:45:39 PM

My condolences as well, Craig.

I agree that as I get older I find myself much more sensitive and sometimes emotional. I also agree that having kids plays a part in that. These days, a lot of movies make me tear up. Some music does it to me, too.

Wich2 · May 28, 2009, 03:16:09 PM

Thanks, Andy.

Oh yeah, I well up at the damndest things anymore.

We saw the semi-revival of THE FANTASTICKS the other night, and "Try To Remember..." started to get me.

(If you're in town, it's a really solid production, with a hilarious "Louisa.")

-Craig

ChattyLMS · May 28, 2009, 04:15:48 PM

Oh yes, Dr Phibes!
That is very normal! Don't think you are a nut! You are a caring individual! The world is blessed to have you in it. Now when you hear about somebody shedding a tear over selling their old car, (me yesterday) now that's weird! I kept looking back at it and looking back at it! But I'm thankful that my daughter will have a better car when she goes to Colorado.

Gasport · May 28, 2009, 05:33:57 PM

So sorry to hear of your loss Craig, but you're probably right...quite possibly a blessing in disguise.

Anton Phibes · May 28, 2009, 06:55:37 PM

Quote from: ChattyLMS on May 28, 2009, 04:15:48 PM
Oh yes, Dr Phibes!
That is very normal! Don't think you are a nut! You are a caring individual! The world is blessed to have you in it. Now when you hear about somebody shedding a tear over selling their old car, (me yesterday) now that's weird! I kept looking back at it and looking back at it! But I'm thankful that my daughter will have a better car when she goes to Colorado.

Thanks, Chatty...but sometimes I wonder if the world feels that way. But so long as my peeps at the UMA and my blood thinks so...then its all good.

ChattyLMS · May 28, 2009, 07:13:28 PM

Hi Dr,
No the whole world doesn't feel that way unfortunately. There are a lot of people out there that don't want to feel their feelings. There's a high emotional price. I like you the way you are.

typhooforme · May 28, 2009, 07:24:00 PM

My sympathy to you and your family, Craig. Truly from my heart, my friend.

Toy Ranch · May 28, 2009, 07:59:50 PM

Sorry for your loss, Craig

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This is going to sound ridiculous...but I am curious....