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Rockshasa

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Enamel paints?
« on: August 12, 2021, 08:11:50 PM »
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I have been out of the model building scene for around 8 years now. I have built tons of monster models in the past. I have ALWAYS been an enamel painter. I am currently getting ready to work on some new kits. I was on another forum and someone told me you can't buy small bottles of enamel paint anymore. I was dumbfounded. I used Model Master Enamels. This person told me they don't make them anymore. Is this true???? Can someone fill me in on what's going on and what's available?

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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2021, 08:28:07 PM »
Testors still makes enamel paints. I just got some at Michael’s. They are discontinuing the “model master” brand line though.

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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2021, 08:34:15 PM »
Are they just changing the brand name or getting rid of ALL of the paints under the Model Master brand?
That would suck. I use alot of those colors.

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2021, 09:06:57 PM »
Not sure if going to add a new line. If you are looking for specific colors check eBay. I’ve bought some big assorted lots for cheap in past from eBay. If you live in area where there are hobby shops or train stores, you might try them because sometimes they still have old stock.

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2021, 09:14:14 PM »
I checked testors website. Looks like they are still using model master brand name but only offering acrylic paints.

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2021, 10:29:33 PM »
Wow! I can't believe this.
I have 5 kits sanded, gap-filled, and primered with enamel paint....ready to be painted WITH ENAMELS.
I don't know what I'm gonna do...

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2021, 01:33:57 PM »
It might be time for you to try acrylic paints. The problem with Testors is that Rustoleum bought Testors and is slowly discontinuing the line due to lack of sales (there aren't as many modelers as there once were). I'd suggest that you select one of your primered kits and get some of the less expensive craft paints; Americana, Delta, Folk Art etc. and give them a try. They apply like enamels, but dry more quickly and for the most part dry flat. If you like them, you can graduate to the more expensive acrylics from Tamiya or Vallejo. I don't think there will be much problem since you are an experienced painter.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2021, 04:17:18 PM »
I still have a lot of Testors. The only trouble is those horrible horrible screw on caps.
I have ones  I cannot open.
But since I don't like the shine that even the flat colours tend to have when applied by brush--I am trying out CeramCoat. It seems to be totally flat and the only downside is it scratches off easier than Testors. I don't know how it would work in an airbrush. I rarely use one.

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2021, 02:14:07 PM »
It will help adhesion if you first prime your parts and then apply your Delta paints, they will stick better that way. Also, they tend to clog up an airbrush unless they are very well thinned and even then granules of pigment can stop up your airbrush.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2021, 06:35:40 PM »
My love of models is fueled largely by nostalgia. The smells I associate with model building, i.e. the smell of styrene cement and enamel paints, play a key role in the nostalgia I feel.

I'm therefore an enamel purist. So my models are covered with enamels, or they're covered with nothing at all.

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2021, 11:39:39 AM »
It will help adhesion if you first prime your parts and then apply your Delta paints, they will stick better that way. Also, they tend to clog up an airbrush unless they are very well thinned and even then granules of pigment can stop up your airbrush.

Delta Art

Do your comments apply to Delta Ceramcoat specifically or to acrylic paints overall?

In general is a primer more of a necessity for acrylic paints than enamels? And are enamels better suited to using with airbrushes than acrylics?

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2021, 02:34:37 PM »
Delta Art

Do your comments apply to Delta Ceramcoat specifically or to acrylic paints overall?

In general is a primer more of a necessity for acrylic paints than enamels? And are enamels better suited to using with airbrushes than acrylics?

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Generally, a primer is used before any other paint application, it provides "tooth" for the color coat to stick to and helps blend areas that have been filled or modified into a uniform base coat. There are time when you can get away without applying a primer, but there's no harm in useing it.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2021, 09:20:48 PM »
In general is a primer more of a necessity for acrylic paints than enamels? And are enamels better suited to using with airbrushes than acrylics?

Hepcat, primer is best for both acrylic and enamel model painting. The paint will stick to primer better than it will to styrene plastic alone. Also, always make sure you wash off your model parts with dish soap and water prior to primering. Styrene can sometimes have factory oils on it making paint application very frustrating. And by the way, I'm with you on favoring enamel. I've been experimenting with acrylics lately and I'm not liking them at all. They're too gummy, and they pull up much easier than oil if not completely dry. I don't know how I'm ever going to get use to acrylics.

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2021, 11:14:42 AM »
Also, always make sure you wash off your model parts with dish soap and water prior to primering. Styrene can sometimes have factory oils on it making paint application very frustrating.

Good tip!

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