My Thoughts on 'White Trash: The Movie' AKA 'Halloween' (2007)

[Chakor Channing]

Oh, I don't doubt there are many people who don't like Zombie's music or films. However, this is the case with everything in life. As I mentioned earlier, I loved the Devil's Rejects. It is in my top 10 all time favorite Horror/violent films. I did enjoy Halloween, but it is certainly not one of my favorites and Halloween 2 was not good, in my opinion. 

Recently, I watched "31". It had some good parts, but wasn't that great overall. I was going to watch it a second time to see if it grew on me like Devil's Rejects. However,  I never got around to it. I think the parts that I thought were good in "31", were only good because they were similar to The Devil's Rejects.

thm

The problem with 31, according to what I've read, is that it was utterly plotless.  A group of circus workers get kidnapped and are forced to play "31", with a group of clowns chasing after them...  For no real reason.  If I'd been writing that film, I would have at least given it more depth.  For example, the rich guys with the big wigs could have been Satan worshipers, and the victims forced to play the game could have been sacrifices to the devil.  Even then, it still wouldn't be a plot that would motivate me to actually watch the film.

[the_horror_man]

The problem with 31, according to what I've read, is that it was utterly plotless.  A group of circus workers get kidnapped and are forced to play "31", with a group of clowns chasing after them...  For no real reason.  If I'd been writing that film, I would have at least given it more depth.  For example, the rich guys with the big wigs could have been Satan worshipers, and the victims forced to play the game could have been sacrifices to the devil.  Even then, it still wouldn't be a plot that would motivate me to actually watch the film.

Having watched it, even I am not exactly sure. It seemed like the 3 in charge were rich folks who put these people through hell solely for their entertainment. Sort of like watching a game or sport.

thm

[Monsters For Sale]

IMO this is worth discussing, so I'm not breaking any promises, MFS. ... 

I knew you couldn't do it.  I think we all did.

[Chakor Channing]

It's simple.  If people were just going to continue calling me a troll simply because I can't tolerate Rob's Halloween remake, then there was no point in responding.

As a side note, now that I'm back, I have to wonder: Did all of Rob's fans get together at a meeting of some sort to discuss how to deal with hate for their idol?  Because, aside from his fans on this board, they ALL reply to hateful things about him in the exact same way on places like YouTube and Facebook.  They all either say "you're wasting your time hating on Rob Zombie" or "get a life".  Ironic, considering that most of his fans who say this (no one on this board) are mostly losers living in their mother's basements "fopping" to his films.

[long live kong]

You Americans have no idea how lucky you are to have basements. No one ever has basements here. I'd love one.

[Mord]

You Americans have no idea how lucky you are to have basements. No one ever hastaple basements here. I'd love one.

I'm American and I've never had a basement. I know what you mean, though. The basement is the staple of many great horror nightmares. I'd love to have one (or, at least, a cool attic or something).

[Anton Phibes]

Hmmm...  On the bright side, I guarantee all of you that I'm not alone in this.  There are hundreds of people who've been extremely put-off (for lack of the better terminology) by some of Rob's films and have stopped watching them before they could finish.  I will say this though: Based on what BBW explained about the film and its plot in his first reply to this thread, it hasn't raised my hopes or expectations for the film at all.  I'm never watching it again.  But by all means, keep the fandom of Rob Zombie going...  I guess.

I find the films I have viewed of his to be extremely distasteful. For lack of a better term, the words "raunchy' and "grungy" come to my mind. Yet there are folks who like his work, or it wouldn't be continually financed. Takes all sorts to make a world.

[long live kong]

I'm American and I've never had a basement. I know what you mean, though. The basement is the staple of many great horror nightmares. I'd love to have one (or, at least, a cool attic or something).

I used to sleep in the attic when I lived at my parents, and I'm pretty sure it was haunted, but that's a tale for another thread.....

[Anton Phibes]

I havent had a basement in 20 years. I certainly wished I had a finished one for all my stuff. So does my wife,lol.

[Chakor Channing]

I find the films I have viewed of his to be extremely distasteful. For lack of a better term, the words "raunchy' and "grungy" come to my mind. Yet their are folks who like his work, or it wouldn't be continually financed. Takes all sorts to make a world.

I completely agree Anton.  As I've stated millions of times in this thread already, the concepts/ideas of the film were very offensive to me.  This is why I'm not exactly a "happy camper" when people call me out for not being able to watch two hours of something that offends me.  It's like a black person watching a movie entirely dedicated to calling everyone the "N-word".

[long live kong]

I havent had a basement in 20 years. I certainly wished I had a finished one for all my stuff. So does my wife,lol.

My sister lives in London and the place has tons of ancient-looking basements, with little grills at floor level that give a tantalising glimpse inside. They always make me think of HP Lovecraft! 

[Monsters For Sale]

... As I've stated millions of times in this thread already...

Oh, good.  I thought it was just my imagination.

[Hepcat]

You Americans have no idea how lucky you are to have basements. No one ever has basements here.

It's Canada where almost all houses have basements.

[Hepcat]

I find the films I have viewed of his to be extremely distasteful. For lack of a better term, the words "raunchy' and "grungy" come to my mind.

"Raunchy" and "grungy" are pluses in my book. Bring on more gratuitous nudity I say!



But movies also need plotlines that make sense.

[Chakor Channing]

I think the mods should lock this topic, along with that old thread about not liking TCM.  Just a suggestion.