Elwar Button Mystery

Started by Richard, November 23, 2008, 12:54:42 PM

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hugohernandez

I guess nobody ever found the ad for the 1st run buttons, huh?         I don't have the earlier FMs, but I went thru the 1965 FearBook and subsequent issues.       

I believe this thread summed up that Forry is wearing those buttons and that the picture is from 1963?    Anybody have any 1963 thru 1964 FM's to check for that elusive 1st run ad?

this pic is the ad from FM issue 109.
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Mike Scott

Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
Ben-Day dots prove that the art was actually printed on a 4 color printing press.    not a photo copy.

But, wouldn't a hi rez scan reproduce the dots?
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hugohernandez

My partner says YES to the hi res scan, but he also said you would get a moire pattern if you tried to print that scan on a 4 color printing press.

to me it sounds like to much trouble to fake or lift an image with the dots, and then try and reprint, only to sell to such a small audience.

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Mike Scott

Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 11:00:41 AM
to me it sounds like to much trouble to fake or lift an image with the dots, and then try and reprint, only to sell to such a small audience.

The only reprints I see are probably made on a desktop printer to go with a set of buttons as a bonus.
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hugohernandez

Do you have any 63 or 64 FM's to search thru?    I am headed down to storage later to check my issues.

I think if we are going to find any evidence of the 1st run buttons, its gonna be in Famous Monsters of Filmland.
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Mike Scott

Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 11:17:25 AM
Do you have any 63 or 64 FM's to search thru?   

I've got them on my hard drive. Much easier than dragging out boxes and leafing through each copy. I'll look through them.
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hugohernandez

Wade A. Minut.   YOU have them on disc, page by page?!?!?    This is fantastic!     Anybody else want to join in the search, please do.
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Mike Scott

Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 11:58:30 AM
YOU have them on disc, page by page?!?!?   

Somebody scanned them and put them on the net. It's only the first 50 and there are a few missing. There may be more issues of FM. I have several other '60s monster mag titles (complete and partial runs), too. If you want to search for them, use the mag title and "download".
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hugohernandez

Where on the internet?   and they did all the back pages with the Ads?

link here if you could so I can help in the search.   I am thinking we only have to go thru 63 and 64.   maybe up to 65
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Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 12:53:03 PM
Where on the internet?   and they did all the back pages with the Ads?

Yeah, every page. I don't have any links. Just search for the mag title and add the word "download".

I looked through issues 30-50 and no button ads. I'll search 1-29, but I don't expect to find anything.
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Mike Scott

Looked through the 20's and that went back to 1962 and no buttons.
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hugohernandez

I found the first ad for FMS album in 29.     also found first ad for Frankenstein speaker in #31 and #32.    and then the Frankenstein speaker disappears from the ongoing future issues.

no buttons.   what the heck.

maybe when the buttons were first offered in 95, could they have possibly sent out first run buttons to just get rid of old stock?
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Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 06:03:49 PM
maybe when the buttons were first offered in 95, could they have possibly sent out first run buttons to just get rid of old stock?

I don't think we'll ever know the full story behind those early Elwar buttons.
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hugohernandez

The answer is in the pages of FM.     I just know it.
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Mike Scott

Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 09:51:53 PM
The answer is in the pages of FM.     I just know it.

I just don't remember seeing anything about the buttons, except the adds in the 1970s issues. Hope I'm wrong!
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