The "Walking Dead" Thread

Started by Mike Scott, February 07, 2014, 09:44:40 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Gory Glenn

#360
A very disturbing way to end the 6th season. I thought Jeffrey Dean Morgan was amazing. I knew he was going to be because of his role in the "Watchmen" as the "Comedian" who was kind of a sadistic pr**k as well. One viewer made a comment on who died that I thought was funny.
QuoteIt was clearly the camera man... RIP Camera Man
Here's an interesting interview with Andrew Lincoln on the final episode.

http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/2016/04/walking_dead_star_andrew_lincoln_talks_negans_victim_brutally

And here's some speculation on who might have bit the big one.

http://www.thewrap.com/walking-dead-11-theories-on-who-negan-killed/

Mike Scott

Quote from: Gory Glenn on April 05, 2016, 10:50:19 AM

And here's some speculation on who might have bit the big one.


And proof that it won't be Rick or Carl.

Negan says, "If anybody says anything, cut the boy's other eye out and feed it to his father," right before he bludgeons his victim to death.

Can't do either of those things if one of them is dead.
Visit My Monster Magazines Website

ravenloft

The show is about Rick, he can't die or the show ends. He can't make sound decisions either though, his role as leader has run it's course.

Carl is fairly safe, even though he had a extra scene with the girl and whatnot, it was not a bow out for him he has too many loose ends with character development and it would rehash Rick going nuts after his wife bought it.

Eugene and Abraham both got some extra screen time in a character redemption sense, so one or the other is most definitely likely toast. Abe had the "I am ready to be a daddy" moment and the mullet had the "you are a survivor, I'll be your anchorman" moments. They aren't main cast per se, but have been regulars enough lately to make either of their deaths poignant enough for the cheap cliff hanger.

Daryl basically causes the group to get captured and he felt guilty over Denise's death because of his previous actions, so how would he feel now? Would he crack up like Carol? Norman Reedus has a new show about motorcycles so maybe he is really leaving the show; he wasn't even in the comics anyway so it makes sense to select him over Glen for a surprising plot twist outcome. He may be a fan favorite that would certainly shake up the demographic of viewers somewhat, but if any of the female cast were actually bludgeoned to death while their friends stood helplessly by, that would be worse from a 'potential for losing female viewers' perspective I would think, I seriously doubt the writers would ever go there. Daryl dying is much more likely than any of the girls.

Glen who dies by Neegan's hand in the comics is ironically safe because multiple sources from the show itself have said twist ending so that practically says it can't be him, besides Neegan would want to test him after watching him break previously anyway. Maggie is safe, we have invested too much into the Glen/Maggie/baby/what's wrong is she miscarrying storyline to just throw it away last moment when Neegan beats a sick pregnant woman to death, hardly appealing from a writer's perspective to carry on with the show in that narrative.

Michone just had the whole relationship thing development, it would be anti-climatic to end that after what two or three episodes? She has become a main cast member and has unique weaponry. so it ain't her either.

Nobody cares about the other actor from their town which is why I can't remember his name anyway so it certainly isn't him.

So that leaves us with four possible most likely candidates:
1. Eugene seems most likely to get a "wow taking it like a champ" Neegan response instead of Abe whom that might be expected from. He gets my vote.
2. Abe has already died in the comics by now (he got Denise's arrow death from what I understand) so he is highly expendable and probably doesn't have any future personal plotline to contribute as his love triangle isn't really going to be further developed. He is second most likely.
3. Daryl would be the sensational shocker that would really shake up the show (and possibly doom it in ratings.) He has no romantic interest and never really has, and his character and motives have stagnated somewhat. Also he wouldn't be able to restrain himself under Neegan's yoke even temporarily and that seems surely where the plot is headed. Could be a wow most people didn't see that coming bold jaw-dropper.
4. Glen, in the not-twist-ending-twist-ending is just tacky. He actually has seen the greatest character arc in development and is a strong contender for fan favorite so it would be cheap to taco his head after they just finished faking his death in the same season. Would be a very bad unimaginative move on the writer's part. Least likely out of the four most probable but still...

Mike Scott

Quote from: ravenloft on April 05, 2016, 04:45:51 PM
The show is about Rick, he can't die or the show ends. He can't make sound decisions either though, his role as leader has run it's course.

You just threw cold water on your first point.
Visit My Monster Magazines Website

Mike Scott

Quote from: ravenloft on April 05, 2016, 04:45:51 PM

1. Eugene seems most likely to get a "wow taking it like a champ" Neegan response instead of Abe whom that might be expected from. He gets my vote.


Mine too. I think the "taking it like a champ" line has doomed him.
Visit My Monster Magazines Website

ravenloft

Quote from: Mike Scott on April 05, 2016, 04:58:14 PM
You just threw cold water on your first point.
Well they did jabber on about how they want to tell a new story or take the story line in a new direction on the Talking Dead show, so Rick's death could be a huge surprise shocker, however I seriously doubt it, like I said, the show is about him, without him the show becomes it's own spin-off.
More importantly is Maggie's "I believe in you" speech which would be a ironic waste.
Neegan would want to make an example to the group and his group as well, especially so by showing that their leader would be helpless to stop it, if he beats Rick to death then the others would have to fall in with his troops as a natural course of action instead of plotting revenge or whatever. Neegan's comment saying feed the boy's eye to Rick seems to preclude any possibility of Rick dying unless the show is winding down/ending. Ain't gonna happen when we know they are going to milk this cash cow for every drop.

ravenloft

Wonder if I am the first to think of Knee-gan and a bad pun for Negan?

ravenloft

I change my vote!
It has to be Daryl because he is the one who would have emotional impact with the fans, to bring them to their knees so to speak. As Rick's right hand man it would drive the point of Negan's parading home to Rick. As plausible as Eugene's death is based on our sleuthing or Abe past his usefulness as a character is, they don't have as much universal appeal with fans.

excerpt of the interview with Andrew Lincoln;
"Have you spoken at all with the producers about how the show plans to keep it a secret or have they discussed anything about that with the cast?

That's the double edged sword of our show. As a victim of our success, people are very keen to know what happens next. We'll try our damndest [to keep it secret] because it's such an important and powerful moment that changes the landscape of "The Walking Dead." It would be a real shame if it got out."
Eugene or Abe's death could hardly be described as a powerful moment or changing the landscape of the show. Daryl is doomed.
Excerpt from Andrew Lincoln interview:
"There are many similarities between [Rick and Negan], but I do think there is morality still in Rick. It's morals and the sanctity of the people who he loves and fights for that are the driving force behind his decision-making. He is a ruthless, uncompromising and tenacious man who will stop at nothing -- we've seen it -- to keep these people alive. But I think he's met his match."
Can't be Rick.

Gory Glenn

Quote from: ravenloft on April 05, 2016, 05:36:58 PM
I change my vote!
It has to be Daryl because he is the one who would have emotional impact with the fans, to bring them to their knees so to speak. As Rick's right hand man it would drive the point of Negan's parading home to Rick. As plausible as Eugene's death is based on our sleuthing or Abe past his usefulness as a character is, they don't have as much universal appeal with fans.

Some people have speculated this as Norman Reedus is getting his own reality show called "Ride with Norman Reedus". I don't think this makes Daryl getting killed off a sure thing though as the reality show is only a 6 episode deal from what I've read. So apparently Norman is a bike enthusiast in real life.

http://www.etonline.com/news/175015_the_walking_dead_star_norman_reedus_has_a_brand_new_badass_show/

bromstaker

I just don't see the writers and producers of TWD willing to risk the almost inevitable drop in ratings (not too mention incendiary fan backlash) that would result if they kill off the enormously popular Daryl Dixon, who's been by far the most interesting character for the bulk of the show's run. Especially in such an abrupt manner. But dang it would be a ballsy move! One thing's for certain: they do need to start offing some of the major characters to maintain credibility. Picking off more of the peripheral low-hanging fruit just ain't gonna cut it. But I'm not ready to see Daryl go! 

Gory Glenn

Quote from: bromstaker on April 06, 2016, 09:09:53 AM
I just don't see the writers and producers of TWD willing to risk the almost inevitable drop in ratings (not too mention incendiary fan backlash) that would result if they kill off the enormously popular Daryl Dixon, who's been by far the most interesting character for the bulk of the show's run. Especially in such an abrupt manner. But dang it would be a ballsy move! One thing's for certain: they do need to start offing some of the major characters to maintain credibility. Picking off more of the peripheral low-hanging fruit just ain't gonna cut it. But I'm not ready to see Daryl go!

I just watched "Talking Dead" and the host Chris Hardwick mentioned Norman's new show. He said and I'm paraphrasing here, "so, your new show is just you riding motorcycles across the country". Then he high fived Norman. Then he said "I hope AMC is handing out free vibrators for this!". Norman couldn't believe it and the whole room was roaring with laughter, especially Jeffrey Dean Morgan.  ;D

Mord

Quote from: Gory Glenn on April 05, 2016, 06:14:39 PM
Some people have speculated this as Norman Reedus is getting his own reality show called "Ride with Norman Reedus". I don't think this makes Daryl getting killed off a sure thing though as the reality show is only a 6 episode deal from what I've read. So apparently Norman is a bike enthusiast in real life.

Daryl's not going anywhere. I really don't think that the producers are ready to kill off their most popular character (though, I said the same thing about Shane). If they did, it would be the boldest move so far. Btw, the Walking Dead finale was the second most watched show last week according to Nielsen (#1 in the desirable youth demographic).

Mike Scott

Quote from: Mord on April 06, 2016, 07:50:34 PM
Btw, the Walking Dead finale was the second most watched show last week according to Nielsen.

Wow! Of all television?
Visit My Monster Magazines Website

Mord

Quote from: Mike Scott on April 06, 2016, 10:26:51 PM
Wow! Of all television?
Yep, including all the major networks. When I was a kid watching "Night of the Living Dead", I could only dream of watching good zombie entertainment every week.

jimm

Anyone else find "Fear" a bit lacking?