Did the Marx monsters come in black and beige?

[The Phantom Creep]

Just found this over on e-bay



The seller says it's smaller and has painted eyes. The glow plastic is different also.

[michblk]

Awesome Creature line up!  Hmmmm, seems I've seen a similar image before!?!?!

Can't recall who's Creature collection this was:


Looks like purple and Bronze (or is that one painted?) can now be added to the Marx color list.

Teal
Orange
Tan
Cream
Glow
Red
Blue
Black
Brick Red
Light Green
Lime
Burgandy Red
Dark Green
Purple

I would love for the UMA (Ok, specifically me!) to get a good hook up from South of the border on those Mexican Marx Monster reissues.

Very cool collection Phantom Creep.  Would love to add a purple one.

ZombieHorror, that would be my collection.

BK

[zombiehorror]

I was leaning towards that being your collection but when I searched posts to try to jog my memory I got all confused.....Must be time for more medication.

[packy120353]

The seller says it's smaller and has painted eyes

Odd, I have a Frank that's a black Marx clone but quite a bit smaller. Camera battery was croaking and squeezed only one side-by-side pic off, it's a poor image for comparison. It had been painted on when I got it, but compared to the 6" knockoff moldwise it's identical. Now there seems to be a Creature as well. Mine also has the trimmed down base (no nameplate). So is there an entire set of mini-Marx?

[Monsters For Sale]

That is a Mexican-produced rip-off of the Marx Frankenstein.

I guess they did not have access to the original molds, but wanted to get in on the action.

[packy120353]

Aah minmexmarx

[Jscareshock]

The beige Creature came out of New York.  The guy had a company called Ram Hobbies.  I used to deal with him a lot.  He sold his remaining inventory on Ebay for a song and took a break from the business.  Anyway, he amde the MARX set in beige and the plastic was paintable--acrylic paints adhered to it nicely.  The dark blue ones came from Mexico in 1992 or 1993--Bill Brugeman sold them in his catalog back then and the lime green ones also came from Mexico--the rest of teh colors other than the Marx originals I'd not seen until you osted tjose glorius photos.

[The Phantom Creep]

Most of the various colors that I've picked up came from Mexico. The large batch of beige and lime green ones that I bought years ago also came from Mexico.

If anybody on here has any extras of any of these (any monster or color), I'd be open to some trading for the beige and lime green ones I have.

[Monsters For Sale]

I thought this would be of interest to some members of the UMA.

A Mexican seller on eBay is re-issuing some of the Marx toys (including the monsters) and offers this history of the Marx molds:


"On my regard and my associates, please let me introduce my self and the company in our behalf
After the sold of Marx Toys to the Quaker Oats Co. in 1972, the company was still in business till 1978 when was bought by the British Conglomerate Dunbee-Combex, they were out of business in 1980 when filed for bankruptcy.
In 1990, the legendary owner of the APE, bought the assets of the Marx Toys from the Chemical Bank and he sold the molds and patents to a Mexican Romantic Entrepreneur that also bought the Original molds form Plastimarx, the Mexican subsidiary of Marx Toys, so he completed the stock of all the Marx Toys best successfully items, having many unique molds that still exist in the world
Convinced of his dream, he could obtained the best part of the molds and many special conditions for have the best of Marx's molds and many single models of the Marx Toys History.
Today you can got a reissued figure with the same molds and techniques that once converted to Louis Marx in "The Toy King"
Before to start this particular business, I reached the market and saw a lot of internet sites that offer some other reissued products, with some kinds of notes about some "details" in the manufacture, something like scratches and other defections, it's caused by a bad manufacture from a bad mold, this is just because the original mold that they have was used by several years and is not in pretty good conditions, however when you buy an item produced by our molds, you can have the trust that all our items are made with the best molds that could exist in the world without any cuts or chew marks."


I have collected most of the color variations that the Frankenstein was produced in over the years.  There are several very distinctly different shades of Blue, Green and Brown.  At least two shades of Purple and Orange.  And there are also Silver, Black, White and White (Glow version). 

The only major colors I have NOT seen are Yellow (canary or dark) and a true Red (fire engine or pink).  There is a very dark orange that usually photographs as red, but in person is very definitely Orange.

[Herr Vogel]

Interesting thread.  I was wondering what collectors thought about the Mexican Marx figures as they related to their acceptance in the collecting world.  It looks like any and all figures and color variations are collected.  I have seen quite a few variations on ebay lately, but was a little hesitant to pick them up because of the "bootleg" title, not to mention some of the crazy prices.

[Wicked Lester]

So what do you feel is a ok price for the colorful re-issues. IMO $20 delivered is fair. I see some in the $40+ range and just think WTF is he smokin.

[Monsters For Sale]

Interesting thread.  I was wondering what collectors thought about the Mexican Marx figures as they related to their acceptance in the collecting world.  It looks like any and all figures and color variations are collected.  I have seen quite a few variations on ebay lately, but was a little hesitant to pick them up because of the "bootleg" title, not to mention some of the crazy prices.

Except for the original Orange and Turquoise ( or Teal) 1963 issues, all of the various colors are later non-Marx issues.

Some of those later issues have the identifying Marx information removed from the molds' two indented circular areas on the bottoms of the figures. Others were produced with this information still intact. Even others were made with only the Marx name removed from one circle. Except for the smaller crude knock-offs, ALL were produced from the original Marx molds. Since Marx sold the molds, I think this makes the later reissued figures as legitimate as the 1963 issues. Their continued availability in various colors would seem to indicate that Universal has long since abandoned policing these nearly 47-year-old molds.

The white glow-in-the-dark individually carded figures made by Uncle Milton and the complete set of six beige figures in the monster painting set are fully licensed and the packaging displays Universal logos.

Some collectors seem to dislike these late-comers a great deal. Many of the same collectors welcome every new incarnation of the Aurora model stuck from the original molds. I did not own the original Marx toys as a kid and attach no nostalgic value to the vintage figures. Perhaps if I had, I would feel differently.

I like all of them equally as collectible monster figures. I like trying to nail down obscure colors. The sparsity of some colors suggest that they were produced in VERY limited numbers.

As to "value" - any toy is worth only what you are willing to pay for it. If some of the sale prices seem too high, it just means that more than one collector assigns a similar value to the item. Who knows how many second-high bidders are kicking themselves for not bidding "just a little bit more"?

I collect to satisfy my own itch. I find it more satisfying than collecting based on other peoples' values. I also try , (sometimes successfully), to refrain from advising others what they should collect. Each collection is an expression of the individual collector. If we all collected the same things for the same reasons, what would be point of having a gathering place like the UMA to share pictures, etc.?

Collecting is a funny game - and collectors are often a curious breed.

At least I know I am.

[Wicked Lester]

The more I see these the more I want some of the crazier colors. There is no way tho I am paying $30+ for a cool colored bootleg when you can get an original 30+ years older for the same price.

[Herr Vogel]

Thanks for the response, Monsters For Sale.  I do like the color variations and will probably pick some of them up as I find them.  I appreciate the feedback from everybody.

[Wicked Lester]

I'm bumping this thread back to life. Lots of new members and I am still looking for these Mexican repros at a decent price. Franks/Creeches/Wolfman and Mummy only. No black/white/cream/silver or glow.
I was waiting for the Phantom Creep to offer these up but he has not been active in over a year. The few I have seen on Ebay are too much $ for what they are,IMHO.