Glenn Strange Candy bucket Question

[Monsters For Sale]

The candy would also fall down through the narrow hole at the top of the base and get lodged in the hollow bottom.

The item is a real "Frankenstein" conglomeration of features.

[jimm]

That Skull Club is near as cool as the Frankenstein

[Monster Bob]

I believe I have the Skull Club somewhere, and in the back of my brain I remember it being a Clinton product. Mine has something molded inside it also, so actually it's a RATTLE...~!

[Monster Bob]

BTW, I just noticed my 'pink' head has impressions on the bottom which appear to be for a base. A 2" hole impression and impressions for screws or or rivots something similar to attach a base.

[Ghost]

Potential new (unseen, at least by me) Glenn Strange Lamp version molded in green like the speaker head went for a pittance recently on evilbay ($75).








The previous known versions to me were:

Clinton Plastics made

1. Glenn Strange Candy bucket for trick or treating large hole on top strap riveted on sometimes inside or outside.



2. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light.



3. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light with a base or pedestal molded in one piece



4. Glenn Strange lamp/bucket hybrid with large hole on top, small hole in back for the light and base or pedestal molded in one piece called variously candy pail or candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters.



There are no known glow versions are all examples are likely sun faded or painted. The pink versions could possibly be plastic deterioration or a change in ingredients for a very small batch for an intended or unintended color change. 

In addition to those Clinton products that have shown up are a pumpkin scissors and skull staffs.



Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company

[mjaycox]

Potential new (unseen, at least by me) Glenn Strange Lamp version molded in green like the speaker head went for a pittance recently on evilbay ($75).








The previous known versions to me were:

Nice use of your head speaker!

Matt

[Monsters For Sale]

Potential new (unseen, at least by me) Glenn Strange Lamp version molded in green like the speaker head went for a pittance recently on evilbay ($75)....

Man, caught me sleeping on THAT one!




Even one of the repos did a lot better:




I haven't been very attentive to eBay auctions, lately.  Too much of life requiring my attention.  But, this was a Buy-It-Now situation (with free shipping, no less), so I probably wouldn't have caught it anyway.

CONGRATULATIONS to the sharp-eyed winner!  (Hope he was one of us, and not just someone who will immediately re-list the head for a big profit.)

[Monster Bob]

It's a rehashed and repurposed head speaker, not sold that way. The top of the head and bolt hole says head speaker all day. Still a bargain.

[Anton Phibes]

BIN if you're in the market for one of these~~

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Vintage-Glenn-Strange-Frankenstein-Head-Halloween-Bucket-Pail-Clinton-Plas/331675300478?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33890%26meid%3D407deb6a8b134e1c9ec40118f7ea0516%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D371465696815

[ravenloft]

with 3D printer on demand services available now-a-days we can all have a Glenn Strange Frankie bucket souvenir for a fraction of the cost of what the vintage item is occasionally put up for sale for (and sometimes gets) from an exact size replica to mini sized buckets in any color we want...anyone have a bunch of high res photos and CAD program (to convert to 3D file) know how? LOL. Most items in this size range go for $50 bucks or less to order according to the online quotes I dabbled with to amuse myself.

At some point the nostalgic value will be gone as those old enough to have purchased, owned or still remember such an vintage rare item will no longer be alive, then what happens to the value? Does it plummet as such sentimental reasons cease to exist or instead sky rocket as shrewd antique dealers attempt to fleece the well heeled credulous? Is $200 really fair for a piece of plastic? Or is $500 bucks or more (exorbitant trending asking prices) really what they are worth? Just because someone rich and famous decided they wanted one at any cost and wouldn't care in the slightest about spending $500 bucks before tea time doesn't mean that is the actual current market value. Most vintage Halloween items even 50 years older than the Strange buckets don't cost nearly as much mainly because there is no sentimental value anymore as the original owners of such items are long dead so the items eventually gain an intrinsic value based solely on what they are and if someone still really wants to own one of those, not just based on age or rarity as an "antique or vintage item."

Considering what the original sale pricing was for a Strange Bucket (less than a dollar, 64 cents), these things appreciate like rare fancy sport cars over the years it seems. 500 times the original value in 50 years? Nothing collectible goes up in price 100 times the original value every decade that I am aware of except perhaps coveted one of a kind items such as actual film props or rare fine art. It is hardly a museum piece or a major impact on pop culture to be treasured by all. What is the actual realistic value of such a poor quality, never intended to be a collectible, cheap plastic seasonal/promotional item? Especially when there are fewer and fewer who would personally value it so highly left? Of course the answer always is whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

When all of the "monster Kids" of that generation are gone all we are left with is a cool looking bucket that newer generations of monster fans wouldn't mind owning but sure as heck won't be paying that kind of price for. This holy grail will just be passed down in the family as grandpa's cool old Frankenstein bucket in another decade or two, given to the thrift store or sold at yard sale or estate sale, or sold at auction for much much less than the ridiculous prices they have been sold for in the last ten years due to collectors craze and auction bidding wars unintentionally jacking up the "price" one can fetch, much to the dismay of those who think such collectibles are a way to "invest." The ease of online shopping making such rare items available to more prospective buyers has artificially increased the worth due to simple competition, but it will be short lived value that will rapidly depreciate. Yard sale items selling for high prices online will come crashing down in value because of their intrinsic worth.When you are dead and buried the prize of your collection be it vintage items or limited edition modern toys just becomes the junk to be gone through by your next of kin. You can't take it with you.
The few Strange buckets that are still out there in reasonable condition are mostly in collectors hands now but in just a few more years perhaps a decade or two someone will be getting the very last one ever sold at a garage sale or swap meet before they all end up eventually at the dump. 50 years from now it will hardly matter and will just be a old piece of plastic. He-Man, barbie and G.I. Joe will be worth less and less over time once the generations that actually played with them are long gone too.

I think it is high time they did mass market repos of this item or if not exact replicas then why not similar likeness UM licensed items for all of the Universal Monsters with licensing that can be reasonably obtained while there are still fans who would actually appreciate them? The argument that they won't sell to non-monster fans or the casual buyer doesn't hold water because generic Frank goods fly of the shelves every year at Halloween. Cool looking frank pails like this would sell, movie likeness or not. Few in the English speaking world and beyond do not know who Frankenstein's monster or Dracula are, and Halloween sales are a billion dollar industry annually; there is simply no reason not to make such recognizable character pails, this is not a collector fringe market only item. Even a casual shopper today with no idea of it's actual current highly inflated "value" at the thrift store would put one in their basket, "oh cool it's Frankenstein, I want that!" and probably get it for close to the original sale price based on it's intrinsic value alone as an old, worn out, cheaply made, paint peeled, plastic trick or treat candy bucket.

[Monster Bob]

 

Yes, this is a repurposed head speaker...someone got a great deal!

As far as making 3D copies of whatever, there are those that still want the original object (of whatever subject or object) and are willing to pay for an original. Which is why there is a "market" for these.

There is no Star Trekian device (at this point anyway) that can make an identical copy. You could print a new Detective Comics #27, but it still isn't an original copy.

[Hepcat]

Not this again. We already had this discussion the last time a Frankenstein bucket was auctioned off on Ebay:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28026.60

Most vintage Halloween items even 50 years older than the Strange buckets don't cost nearly as much mainly because there is no sentimental value anymore as the original owners of such items are long dead....

This holy grail will just be passed down in the family as grandpa's cool old Frankenstein bucket in another decade or two, given to the thrift store or sold at yard sale or estate sale, or sold at auction for much much less than the ridiculous prices they have been sold for in the last ten years due to collectors craze and auction bidding wars unintentionally jacking up the "price" one can fetch, much to the dismay of those who think such collectibles are a way to "invest."

When you are dead and buried the prize of your collection be it vintage items or limited edition modern toys just becomes the junk to be gone through by your next of kin. You can't take it with you.

Yes, you're right about the demographics. The premise behind thinking of these items as an investment is shaky indeed. But your point is also entirely irrelevant. You see I buy these items for me, for my own personal satisfaction, for the sentimental value I myself derive. I pay no more for a collectible than it's worth to me. I neither buy these items as an "investment", nor am I buying them for anyone else. So if their resale value plummets after I'm gone, it won't matter. Because I'll be dead!

I think it is high time they did mass market repos of this item or if not exact replicas then why not similar likeness UM licensed items for all of the Universal Monsters with licensing that can be reasonably obtained while there are still fans who would actually appreciate them?

If someone thought there was a buck in it, they would have done so. But there has to be a buck in it for them because no company is going to repop an item just to make it available for you at a price you're willing to pay. I hate to break it to you but corporations are in the business of making money. They're not in the business of making items available at a price any particular sub-sector of the market is willing to pay. Now they may end up doing precisely that, but the bottom line is precisely their bottom line, not yours.

But what's the point of this long-winded rant of yours? Frustrated that you can't get a bucket at a price you're willing to pay? Look, either buy the Frankenstein bucket at the best price you can find, or don't. But stop kvetching about the price other people are willing to pay for the thing! It's their money, and their choice. They're only "crazy" if they think it's some sort of an investment. But somehow I doubt that they care about the bucket's "value" once they're gone.

And stop whining about other's unwillingness to repop the thing. Like I say, people are in business to make money, and not to cater to your personal whims, preferences or whatever.

[raycastile]

That head speaker had to be the ebay find of the season. I have Frankenstein pail/pale/bucket as saved searches, but that wouldn't have helped me with that listing. Oh well!

[Monsters For Sale]

That head speaker had to be the ebay find of the season. I have Frankenstein pail/pale/bucket as saved searches, but that wouldn't have helped me with that listing. Oh well!

Even if you had seen it in your e-mails, you would have had to be there right away.  As a Buy-It-Now item it went to the first collector who recognized what it was.

It would have shown up in my searches, if I had been looking beyond the dozen that appear in my e-mail page.  I was taking a little hiatus from buying anything  and not looking through all my results.

Still, I would have had to be the first to see it for what it was - slim chance.

Maybe next time.

(Man, someone got lucky!)

[raycastile]

Boy, that is one epic rant about a plastic Halloween bucket. The funny thing about all this Frankenstein angst is that, as collectibles go, that bucket ain't even that expensive. Sure, it's more money than I can pull out of my pocket on most days, but it's nothing compared to a lot of other items in the monster collecting hobby, let alone the bigger world of pop culture memorabilia. Most of my paychecks are less than the top-dollar price for this bucket. But I've got one. If you really want one, you can sacrifice a paycheck and get one, too. Buck up. Do without some things for a month. Sell something. Make some sacrifices. Or go into the field and hunt through garage sales, estate sales, antique shops, thrift stores, etc. Go to toy shows. I'm constantly amazed at the great deals my friends find at shows, almost on a weekly basis. No one is entitled to a Frankenstein bucket. And as I said, as holy grails go, this one is pretty obtainable. It's only on ebay every other week. I wish my grails were as easy to fulfill as this. How many "I can't get a bucket" posts does one forum need?

with 3D printer on demand services available now-a-days we can all have a Glenn Strange Frankie bucket souvenir for a fraction of the cost of what the vintage item is occasionally put up for sale for (and sometimes gets) from an exact size replica to mini sized buckets in any color we want...anyone have a bunch of high res photos and CAD program (to convert to 3D file) know how? LOL. Most items in this size range go for $50 bucks or less to order according to the online quotes I dabbled with to amuse myself.

...blah blah blah...

I think it is high time they did mass market repos of this item or if not exact replicas then why not similar likeness UM licensed items for all of the Universal Monsters with licensing that can be reasonably obtained while there are still fans who would actually appreciate them? The argument that they won't sell to non-monster fans or the casual buyer doesn't hold water because generic Frank goods fly of the shelves every year at Halloween. Cool looking frank pails like this would sell, movie likeness or not. Few in the English speaking world and beyond do not know who Frankenstein's monster or Dracula are, and Halloween sales are a billion dollar industry annually; there is simply no reason not to make such recognizable character pails, this is not a collector fringe market only item. Even a casual shopper today with no idea of it's actual current highly inflated "value" at the thrift store would put one in their basket, "oh cool it's Frankenstein, I want that!" and probably get it for close to the original sale price based on it's intrinsic value alone as an old, worn out, cheaply made, paint peeled, plastic trick or treat candy bucket.