Glenn Strange Candy bucket Question

Started by horror1o1, June 15, 2012, 09:11:34 PM

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Quote from: ilikemonsters on October 19, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
So, if your mom bought you a Frankenstein bucket for Halloween would you have opted for the pillow case or used the bucket?

I would have used it up to about the age of eight but then ditched it to go for the carrying capacity.

The question is strictly hypothetical of course as my mother would never have bought me a bucket whose use would be limited to one day per year.

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Monsters For Sale

Quote from: ilikemonsters on October 19, 2012, 03:21:12 PM
I didn't scroll down to the last pic. I did not realize that a hard core collector inherited such a perfect example from an uncle who I guess never used it when he got it as a child.
I know I would have used that as my bucket if I got one, and if I used it It certainly wouldn't be in that shape!
Of coarse, maybe he opted for the pillow case, did they do that in the early sixties?

In my discussion with the seller, he told me his uncle was a diehard collector and Frankenstein maniac.

He also mentioned that his uncle's mother bought him three (3) of the buckets for 59 cents each.

Even though the seller is now a collector himself, he was selling a duplicate bucket to raise money for some other items he had his eye on.  (No word on the fate of the third bucket - maybe that one did trick-or-treating duty.)

ADAM

horror1o1

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 19, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
In my discussion with the seller, he told me his uncle was a diehard collector and Frankenstein maniac.

He also mentioned that his uncle's mother bought him three (3) of the buckets for 59 cents each.

Even though the seller is now a collector himself, he was selling a duplicate bucket to raise money for some other items he had his eye on.  (No word on the fate of the third bucket - maybe that one did trick-or-treating duty.)

did you ask the seller what state the mom bought them in? Kinda curious.
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jimm

Yes, wonder if these were sold new on west coast, beautiful bucket!

horror1o1

Quote from: jimm on October 19, 2012, 08:33:23 PM
Yes, wonder if these were sold new on west coast, beautiful bucket!

ya i'm trying to research how far they made it as well. So far i'm not seeing much evidence they were sold past the east coast new.
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horror1o1

Quote from: Monster Bob on October 19, 2012, 03:11:09 PM
The one in the auction pics. I am guessing it is one of the resin repops. Many years ago, I painted many of these for people, in a paint scheme identical to a real speaker. That could be one I did; It looks too perfect to be vintage to my eye, loose especially.

And as far as the bucket's paint, I have had and sold MANY Frankenstein buckets in the past, most being mint/unused right out of the shipping box. They all had the box-nose tip 'rub'. I would bet that when these originally made, the heads were stuck in boxes and shipped before the paint was fully cured.
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i didn't really start thinking about this until you mentioned it Bob but it could be worse than just a retouch. Did you notice the pic of the bottom of the bucket? it has this weird circle and some drip marks. I've never seen that on the hand full of bucket bottoms i've seen. ALso in the pic you mentioned earlier there is what looks like a gigantic frankenstein head that is marked prototype. there is also what looks to be another speaker with different paint next to the prototype. Kinda seems weird but hey i'm no expert.
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Quote from: horror1o1 on October 19, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
i didn't really start thinking about this until you mentioned it Bob but it could be worse than just a retouch. Did you notice the pic of the bottom of the bucket? it has this weird circle and some drip marks. I've never seen that on the hand full of bucket bottoms i've seen. ALso in the pic you mentioned earlier there is what looks like a gigantic frankenstein head that is marked prototype. there is also what looks to be another speaker with different paint next to the prototype. Kinda seems weird but hey i'm no expert.


I have 2 buckets.

One bucket bottom has the circle and the world "CLINTON" appears on both halves.  The other bucket does not.

The circle is just the right size to accomodate where the "light" version base would begin.  I'm guessing these are just mold differences.

By-the-way:  Both of my buckets have their orginal prices marked in grease pencil on the botoms.  The one without the circle was marked 69 cents.  The one with the circle is marked $1.19.  Could the higher-priced bucket (with the circle) have been made from a "light" mold that was later modified to produce more buckets?

Anyone know how long these were available and what went with the molds?  Were they licensed?  They are not marked as such. 

It is not hard to imagine that Universal issued a cease and desist on these and that is why they are scarce.

ADAM

Monster Bob

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 19, 2012, 09:42:38 PM

Anyone know how long these were available and what went with the molds?  Were they licensed?  They are not marked as such. 


The one in the auction in marked U.P.CO., so it would be licensed...

Monster Bob

Quote from: horror1o1 on October 19, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
i didn't really start thinking about this until you mentioned it Bob but it could be worse than just a retouch. Did you notice the pic of the bottom of the bucket? it has this weird circle and some drip marks. I've never seen that on the hand full of bucket bottoms i've seen. ALso in the pic you mentioned earlier there is what looks like a gigantic frankenstein head that is marked prototype. there is also what looks to be another speaker with different paint next to the prototype. Kinda seems weird but hey i'm no expert.

It would be easy to retouch one of these with an airbrush, and I suspect that may be what "uncle" did here. It just doesn't look right (or I should say it looks TOO right), and neither does the head speaker. The forehead clamps look just spray painted over, instead of stenciled on.

Monsters For Sale

Quote from: Monster Bob on October 19, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
The one in the auction in marked U.P.CO., so it would be licensed...


Mine are also marked, very faintly, just behind and below the left electrode.

Funny, it never occured to me that it could stand for Universal Pictures.  I am so used to calling it Universal Studios.




ADAM

horror1o1

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 19, 2012, 09:42:38 PM

I have 2 buckets.

One bucket bottom has the circle and the world "CLINTON" appears on both halves.  The other bucket does not.

The circle is just the right size to accomodate where the "light" version base would begin.  I'm guessing these are just mold differences.

By-the-way:  Both of my buckets have their orginal prices marked in grease pencil on the botoms.  The one without the circle was marked 69 cents.  The one with the circle is marked $1.19.  Could the higher-priced bucket (with the circle) have been made from a "light" mold that was later modified to produce more buckets?

Anyone know how long these were available and what went with the molds?  Were they licensed?  They are not marked as such. 

It is not hard to imagine that Universal issued a cease and desist on these and that is why they are scarce.

ok well the circle mystery is solved
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Dr.Terror

These, and the light, had to have only been made for a year or so.   Just about every other  blow mold halloween item from this period can be seen regularly for sale or was in Grandmas attic.   
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Clinton Plastics sounds like a small-time outfit, too, not doing the volume of Renzi, Empire or whoever. And if Mom or Grandma was buying a Halloween light, I would bet most opted for a Pumpkin or a black cat, not a half sized Frankenstein head.

horror1o1

Quote from: Dr.Terror on October 20, 2012, 06:27:41 AM
These, and the light, had to have only been made for a year or so.   Just about every other  blow mold halloween item from this period can be seen regularly for sale or was in Grandmas attic.   

ya i'm doubting they made them for very long and doubt the company was big but sometimes blow mold can be weird. Me and my mom own tons of it but there are pieces we are still missing some witches,houses,owls and the topstone buckets. But seems like we just don't see them much in kansas. ALthough today she found some ben cooper style mask and some blow mold at a sale and found our second pirate pumpkin. Which is amazing to me cause up till last year when she found the first I had no idea he existed. I'm wondering if people didn't really pound the pavement on the east coast if the Strange bucket wouldn't come up more.
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I just got an answer back from the seller of that last Bucket.

It was originally purchased at a Payless Drug Store store in Washington State in October, 1962.

So the buckets were on sale in the west.
ADAM