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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 03:09:19 PM »
It's all good, because most of what I watch is the old stuff, which is very seldom shown in theaters (and  never in multiplexes) anyway.

We have a 60 year old theater near me, which is where I go to see the few new movies I want to see (they are still film, not digital, though they have the capability if needed). They charge $6/adult regularly, $5 on Sunday. Why on Earth would I go anywhere else?! They do from time to time show "classic oldies" for little (like $1) or nothing. That's when I go nuts at the snack bar, figuring they have bills to pay. Last summer at a fest they showed Elvis Presley's GIRL HAPPY free as a Sunday matinee. There were maybe 20 people in the theater. It was AWESOME, to say the least.

My friend, I wanna live where YOU live. The King on the big screen for ANY price is worth it.........for FREE??  :o

I used to ADORE going to the movies. Especially the Drive-In of course, but I haunted many a multiplex in my day. Now? Nope. Just some select films that demand the big screen. Can't afford to go with any frequency any more. And when I DO go, I wear cargo pants with many pockets hiding my snacks.  ;D

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 04:21:42 PM »
Dr. Jitters - "For a long time the main profit for owners comes from the concession stand.  I don't knock them for charging higher prices.  It's how they pay their bills.  I don't go to the theater very often, so when I do I just enjoy the event with popcorn, soda and candy."

I understand where you are coming from on this, however, let me add that since there are other problems that have diminished audiences, movie theaters have decided to gouge those remaining patrons enormously.  Profits they used to make in volume they are now trying to make on those few devoted souls left who still patronize their theaters.  You can't do that.  You are making those loyal to theaters pay for their dreadful mismanagement to stay open. 

What they need to do is lower their prices, take care of those who misbehave, offer special showings of older movies, have Saturday festivals with not only older films but also add cartoons and other special programs like newreals to spruce things up and then weather the storm.  In time, "maybe" the audiences will come back and they can then make their money on volume again instead of gouging. 

If they don't do that then with more expensive digital projectors, less people attending, less people seeing films multiple times, less people buying concessions, less people coming due to misbehaving others it is only a matter of time they will have to face the music and close down.

In my humble opinion they need to change quickly and drastically to save their industry now or it may already be too late.


Hey Wolfman, pal.  For the most part, I agree with you.  There are some theater owners who are trying desperately to hang on and are raising concession prices which affects their loyal customers.  That's a tough way to run a business and it may be hurting them in the long run.  There are other theaters that haven't raised prices for admissions and concessions and are also hanging in there and getting by with some cleverness.  It's a tough call and tough times for them.  Most independent theater owners make a modest amount of profit and some even have other jobs they do to make ends meet.

I love the idea of showing older movies, having festivals and cartoons and special showings.  Guys like us on this forum would love it, but the general population wouldn't respond much I don't think.  From a business standpoint it would probably be a mistake.  To make the most of when they're open they'd probably have to pick the most popular current titles available and rely on good marketing.  Maybe you're right though, there could be a time when a certain program could work -- Halloween?  There's a time frame when business drops off and they'd be smart to have a game plan set up for those times.

The other big factor affecting theaters is the shrinking window between the release date of the movie and the release of the DVD or digital download option.  They've even released both on the same date in some cases!  That's really the death knell of the movie-going experience.

I'm thinking that you're right, too.  The example of this thread points to it.  Maybe a movie house could focus on the "old-fashioned" experience of the theater.  If it were geared towards the growing demographic of baby boomers who will be nostalgic for the experiences they had going to the movies "in the old days".  :)  It might work in a large, populous area.  If it were me, I'd probably go that route, and also have bands play on the stage occasionally, lease it out to groups in the morning hours, etc.   But as far as first run movies go, the times they are a-changin'.

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 04:32:08 PM »
For what it's worth, here's a message board I read to live vicariously through others travails:
http://www.bigscreenbiz.com/Forums/The-Lobby/
I don't post there though.

Note the thread about used 35mm equipment being picked up for scrap.  :(

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 04:38:54 PM »
Can't afford to go with any frequency any more. And when I DO go, I wear cargo pants with many pockets hiding my snacks.  ;D

LOL, that's awesome! I should do same thing when I go to the movie theater next time!
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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 05:29:35 PM »
Last time I went to a movie theater was when I took my kid to see 'Spawn' on his birthday in '97
and before that, maybe another ten or so years...

I used to go all the time in the '60s & '70s.

besides the price & the crowds I think the older I get the less I like
leaving my house (unless I'm getting paid)...
I don't mind waiting to see the latest flick in the comfort of my living room now a days.

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 05:52:57 PM »
Used to get dropped off here every Saturday when I was a kid-

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The Sanford Theater in Irvington, NJ, was my Saturday dumping grounds. Mom would drop me off, and I'd see a triple-feature. Wild stuff, too, like all those K. Gordon Murray Mexican kiddie-flicks: "Little Red Riding Hood Meets the Monsters," "Puss 'N Boots," "Santa Claus vs. The Devil," etc. And Rankin/Bass films like "The Day Dreamer," "Willie McBean and His Magic Machine," "Mother Goose On the Loose," and "Mad Monster Party." I can't believe back then how kids 6-12 years old were just dropped off by themselves for 5 hours, and nothing ever happened! Today, parents would be arrested for neglect, child endangerment, and whatever else they could think to charge them with.
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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 06:00:26 PM »
Another idea that would help theaters is to use fan groups and reenactors to set up displays and live demonstrations for movies of their genre.  For example, when 13th Warrior came out I met with a local theater manager to set up a Viking display with my group of Viking reenactors "FOR FREE" to help suppor the film.  He declined.  Live action anything always helps out not just promoting the film but the theater as well.  It provides more entertainment for the patrons "FOR FREE".  It is an unused resource.  I was used to set up a display for Return of the King and it was very well received by the public.  Our Historical group also set up for Saving Private Ryan and that too was very well received.  We had WW II vehicles, uniforms, weapons, tents and all sorts of other items on display.  I can also set up Victorian for films like Dark Shadows, The Wolfman, From Hell and The Woman in Black.  Star Trek and Star Wars fans sometimes set up to support those films but are not used often enough.  Managers are just not taking advantage of what they can get "FOR FREE" in their areas.
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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 06:11:21 PM »
Used to get dropped off here every Saturday when I was a kid-

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Where was this? Is the Strand still in business?

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 07:33:05 PM »
I was always a fan of movie theaters, I mean who isn't? but I always was really into drive-in theaters the most

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2012, 07:39:49 PM »
Drive-Ins are another example of theaters that went the way of the Dodo.  I know there are none in anywhere near my home vacinity.  Not sure how many are still alive in the US anymore.  I always enjoyed them except for those lousy speakers that hardly ever worked.  Plus, I was too young for the Drive - In make out experiences so I only got to watch the movies.  Godzilla and Planet of the Apes always played well in Drive - Ins.
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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2012, 07:44:59 PM »
There are a few drive-ins where I live, but most are gone. I like the classic and original drive-ins, like the ones that were built and opened in the 1940s and 1950s, something about that era and the times, I really like

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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2012, 07:46:24 PM »
My parents used to go here on dates and took me there as a baby/toddler ...

http://www.newyorkdriveins.com/longislandregion/sunrisevalleystream/sunrisevalleystream.php


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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2012, 07:49:46 PM »
That is really cool!!
My parents used to go here on dates and took me there as a baby/toddler ...

http://www.newyorkdriveins.com/longislandregion/sunrisevalleystream/sunrisevalleystream.php




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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2012, 08:00:31 PM »
I am really digging those nostalgic pictures you are all finding and posting.  Great memories.  Shame that is all they might ever be is memories.
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Re: Are Movie Theaters Dying?
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2012, 02:11:58 AM »
One more thing.  After responding to another post on here I was reminded of the whole 3D ploy and gimmick.  The film industry knows it is failing and is pulling out all the gimmicks to try to make a buck.  I refuse to pay the higher ticket prices of 3D.  If a film is only released in 3D then I will wait for it to come out at Red Box. 

So after thinking some I can truly say, that although some of my fondest memories are of great movies seen in movie theaters with lots of enjoyment and entertainment I am now ready for theaters to completely fail and be wiped out.  My fond memories are in the past completely.  I have experienced no joy in the past seven to ten years watching a film in the theater.  Wolfman not included.  I was serving overseas and just grateful to be able to see that film in a theater at all.  Especially after being kept waiting so long for its release "AND" scheduling my vacation so I would be home when it was first supposed to come out only to be very disappointed and having to go back overseas by the time it was "really" released.  Dreadfull mismanagement all the way to pure incompetence has finally convinced me that theaters should die.  I don't want to see the film industry vanish.  Rather, I want them to be taught a lesson in dollars and cents.  I want actors to go back to being low paid workers and film companies to make low budget productions where they have to use talent, resources, cleverness and ingenuity to create something out of nothing. 

Lets face it, our glorious memories of seeing Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars,  Gladiator, Lord of the Rings, and any other blockbusters you can name that gave us joy, pleasure, elation, fond memories of popcorn, sodas, Junior Mints and Milk Duds are in the past.  Most movies today simply disappoint.  Or we get gouged out of our hard earned dollars and in today's economy they are really hard earned. 

We have learned to adapt since we are adaptable creatures.  We now have Red Box, bargain bins at Wal-Mart, we don't have to wait long, we get to enjoy the movies in our own homes, eat what we want for a fraction of the cost and enjoy ourselves in many ways.  These are our new fond memories. 

Going to the theater now, at least for me does little but annoy me anymore.  I am just one of the first wave of folks who are fed up with those things we can't control such as the pricing, the quality of the films or of the actors, and the bad behavior of others who spoil our movie.  That first wave of us are building our own home theaters and leaving real theaters behind us in the dust of those wonderful old drive ins that have all but disappeared already.  The only thing we have control over is who we give our money to and how we spend it.  It is high time those living fat off our millions learn to listen to us, give us what we want or decline like the economy.   

We make our voices heard by expressing our displeasure over these things and over films like Dark Shadows but no one listens to us, they don't care as long as someone gives them the dollars they want they won't listen.  So let them loose their fortunes on bad business ventures, let them starve or not find a job, let our voices be heard through our lack of patronage until they have no choice but to listen and please the fans or parish and implode their industry.   

It is time the theaters die out.  Perhaps they won't with younger folks still going no matter what the cost, a months allowance, a weeks pay, a pint of blood.  But when our voices are mixed with the younger folks who become equally dissatisfied with the quality and what they get for their buck then the film industry will really have to listen or loose.
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