vintage famous monsters binders vs. repros.

Started by hugohernandez, December 14, 2011, 09:53:57 PM

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hugohernandez

Hi guys,
Does anyone know how to tell vintage 1963 famous monsters binders from repros?
I would appreciate any knowledge or help.
please email me at huedez(*at*)yahoo.com if you would be so kind.
My thanks for your expertise.
Hugo
"hanging with the mothmen, everybody's favorite disguise"

Monster Bob


I believe on the repros the xerox artwork is just slid into the clear front 'pocket' of the binder. On the original, it is sealed inside the plastic. But I guess it depends on which repro you're looking at. I would think you could tell easily from the ring mechanism inside if it is old or new.

raycastile

Quote from: hugohernandez on December 14, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
Hi guys,
Does anyone know how to tell vintage 1963 famous monsters binders from repros?
I would appreciate any knowledge or help.
please email me at huedez(*at*)yahoo.com if you would be so kind.
My thanks for your expertise.
Hugo


If I may step in, I'd like people to reply here at the forum so that we can all benefit from the information. I'm sure there are other members who would like to know how to tell repros from originals. And there might be some disagreement about whether a particular detail is evidence of a fake. For instance, are there originals where the paper can be removed, or are they always sealed?
Raymond Castile

Kenneth

Seems like I read somewhere (maybe here!) that the original binders had rounded outer corners, whereas the repros do not have the rounded corners. The photos in the gallery seem to support this...   :)

hugohernandez

Thanks guys for all the help.  Ray thank you for asking them to post answers here.    I wasn't thinking.
It sounds like the old ones are not only sealed and rounded corners but does anybody know if the picture inside was just paper or was it on thick cardboard?
that might be the big decider on what is repro and not.
Also does anyone have an older binder?   I am assuming from the picture at landlcollectables.com that the original binders were also thicker.   The pic shows big rings which means the spine is pretty wide.   Look under the monster gallery section under frankenstein.
Hugo
"hanging with the mothmen, everybody's favorite disguise"

ICEMANN333

  the original.........250.00 to 500.00 --sometimes higher------.......---- repros  19.99 to 30.00...................your choice.........

raycastile

Quote from: ICEMANN333 on December 17, 2011, 10:11:14 AM
  the original.........250.00 to 500.00 --sometimes higher------.......---- repros  19.99 to 30.00...................your choice.........


I would choose originals.
Raymond Castile

hhwolfman


hugohernandez

Hey guys, I got the definitive answer from an old UMA member who found his old post and sent it to me along with generous pics of  original binder  vs.  the horrible yucky why bother repros.   
Here is his info in a nutshell.
Original is wide spine with 2 gold rivets showing on the spine.    Repro has no rivets, skinny spine and added extra slip pocket inside.
Original picture is not only sealed but picture was laminated on to  thick 1/8 inch cardboard.    Repro is thin paper which you can clearly see right away.
This fountain of important info was passed down to me by an expert with an extensive collection.
and passed onto you all here.   I don't think he would mind that I am passing it on  here as he told me he originally posted it previously on this site, but  long ago.
Thanks again, for all your help and know WE ALL KNOW how to tell them apart.
"hanging with the mothmen, everybody's favorite disguise"

hugohernandez

Hugo again, the gold rivets are incorrect, they are actually silver but because his binders were old, the pictures showed them to be brass colored or gold.    He informed me that with age, they might turn color.
PLease check out my wanted ad if anybody has extras.
"hanging with the mothmen, everybody's favorite disguise"

CADMANDD

I had the Frankenstein from the 60's and remember the cardboard that the pic was printed on was very thick and hard. I have not seen the repros but maybe that might tell the difference.

ilikemonsters

Quote from: hugohernandez on December 18, 2011, 10:44:20 AM
Hey guys, I got the definitive answer from an old UMA member who found his old post and sent it to me along with generous pics of  original binder  vs.  the horrible yucky why bother repros.   
Here is his info in a nutshell.
Original is wide spine with 2 gold rivets showing on the spine.    Repro has no rivets, skinny spine and added extra slip pocket inside.
Original picture is not only sealed but picture was laminated on to  thick 1/8 inch cardboard.    Repro is thin paper which you can clearly see right away.
This fountain of important info was passed down to me by an expert with an extensive collection.
and passed onto you all here.   I don't think he would mind that I am passing it on  here as he told me he originally posted it previously on this site, but  long ago.
Thanks again, for all your help and know WE ALL KNOW how to tell them apart.

Post what he sent you.

Toy Ranch

I have some of both.  I'll post pics tonight (if I have time).

RPM

The 1960's original binders have the same artwork as the 1963 Hasbro paint by numbers. The outer edges of the binders are rounded. The binder width is 2". I have a set of the originals as well as a set of the cardboard inserts, but none of the repros, so cannot speak of them.
RPM

hugohernandez

here are the pics he sent me.   Don't know if I needed his permission or not.   He said they were somewhere on this site.

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