Beetlejuice 2?

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Haunted hearse

Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 05:01:56 PM
According to Seth Grahame-Smith, it won't happen if he doesn't turn in a script that utterly "Wows" both Burton and Keaton. Seeing as how he's Burton's new bromantic partner, we've just got to hope Keaton's BS-meter is still in good working order. Then again, he did make "Herbie: Fully Loaded."
Oh yes, the worthy Disney effort that wanted us to believe that a 1963 VW bug can compete in NASCAR events, if it is equipped with enough cool gadgets.  My idea for that film would have jettisoned Lohan, in favor of Cheech and Chong. Because they are stoned, they accidentally drive into a NASCAR  race.  People stoned on grass might explain what the hell a VW Bug was doing in a race where they don't qualify to enter in a place we like to call reality.  And since Herbie would be affected by the smoke they fill him up with as they drive, the title would have been perfect.
What ever happened to my Transylvania Twist?

Toy Ranch

Burton doesn't typically do sequels.  Only a the 3 Batman films.  He doesn't seem inclined to "sequel out" for the sake of a payday.

Count_Zirock

Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!
"That's either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster." - Lou Costello

Haunted hearse

Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!
And we know how well the inclusion of Robin into the subsequent films worked.  Smart moove Warner Brothers. 
What ever happened to my Transylvania Twist?

Toy Ranch

Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!

Correct, he did not direct it, but he is listed as the producer.

Count_Zirock

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Quote from: Toy Ranch on May 21, 2012, 04:42:28 PM
Correct, he did not direct it, but he is listed as the producer.
Appeasement for working pre-production for over a year. Burton was very upset about not getting to make "Batman Triumphant," as he intended it to be his Batman swansong. He got out of having to put Robin into "Batman Returns" by casting Marlon Wayans in the role. Robin was actually in early drafts of "Batman," and they went as far as casting Ricky Addison Reed, who played Michael Moriarty's son in "A Return to Salem's Lot" (1987), as Dick Grayson. Burton was able to convince the studio that the film already had way too much going on in it to include Robin, and basically said, "We'll put him in the sequel."
"That's either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster." - Lou Costello

Count_Zirock

"That's either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster." - Lou Costello

zombabe

Oooh I can't wait!!
I am not very excited that Winona will be in this too, but I'll hold my thumbs that this turns out awesome! Since Keaton is in it I feel pretty good about it.

MoreGore

Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!

Didnt Burton start working on Superman after this?

Count_Zirock

Quote from: MoreGore on July 15, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
Didnt Burton start working on Superman after this?
That sounds about right, timewise.
"That's either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster." - Lou Costello

MoreGore

Quote from: Count_Zirock on July 15, 2015, 02:36:59 PM
That sounds about right, timewise.



Nicolas Cage as Superman in Burton version

Count_Zirock

Yes, probably a good thing it got scrapped. The studio was being ultra-intrusive, and seemed to be pushing Burton's patience with their interference. But, this one would really have stressed how much Superman is an alien who just looks human, and that his death and resurrection are powers beyond our comprehension. These were aspects that stayed with the project throughout its various phases of development, and were brought back in for "Man of Steel" and "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice."
"That's either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster." - Lou Costello

Gillfan

Know how people say "Be careful what you wish for?"
The younger version of me dreamed for a Ghostbusters / Beetlejuice crossover film. Older me doesn't want that, but I'm still a bit curious what would have happened.


Count_Zirock

Quote from: Gillfan on August 05, 2015, 06:09:52 AM
Know how people say "Be careful what you wish for?"
The younger version of me dreamed for a Ghostbusters / Beetlejuice crossover film. Older me doesn't want that, but I'm still a bit curious what would have happened.
Imagination, my friend! I'm sure whatever you might have imagined would be far better than what the studios would have dreamt up.
"That's either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster." - Lou Costello

AlwaysWitty

Quote from: Count_Zirock on July 20, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Yes, probably a good thing it got scrapped. The studio was being ultra-intrusive, and seemed to be pushing Burton's patience with their interference. But, this one would really have stressed how much Superman is an alien who just looks human, and that his death and resurrection are powers beyond our comprehension. These were aspects that stayed with the project throughout its various phases of development, and were brought back in for "Man of Steel" and "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice."
Actually, I can't help but wonder if this film would have been all that bad after seeing the documentary The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? recently. What many don't know is that that infamous photo of Nic in the costume was from very early stages of the costume design work. Some of the concept art looks pretty good.

I mean, it still may have been absolutely terrible, but I'm not as certain about that as I used to be.