Marx Monsters

Started by zombiehorror, March 17, 2008, 09:59:47 AM

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Hepcat

Here are a couple pictures of the Uncle Milton Monsters Studio Paint Set:





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John Pertwee

I can tell that it was never painted. There is not even a spot on it. No dust. Nothing. This thing was kept somewhere safe up until someone brought it into my new shop over the weekend.

Now I think I am hooked and will need to get them all. Curses! Yet another set I am hooked on.

Mord

I have one ... it's a great set to get hooked on!

Allhallowsday

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Great original set with a great bag! You don't see those bags every day!! Are they yours?
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Quote from: Mike Scott on April 19, 2013, 12:59:13 PM
Great original set with a great bag! You don't see those bags every day!! Are they yours?
No no no!  It's from an old eBay auction - I think around 1999, not my picture, but I found it in an old folder of images I had grabbed from the '90s net... I haven't seen any of those bags, and as it's been pointed out in another thread, that example is missing the "Cinema" portion of the bag, they were "Cinema Creatures".  That is so cool.  I think it's great to see any example, but it's not my picture, and it's from a very early eBay auction.  I think we all need to see it. 
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horrorhunter

Quote from: Allhallowsday on April 19, 2013, 08:38:34 PM
No no no!  It's from an old eBay auction - I think around 1999, not my picture, but I found it in an old folder of images I had grabbed from the '90s net... I haven't seen any of those bags, and as it's been pointed out in another thread, that example is missing the "Cinema" portion of the bag, they were "Cinema Creatures".  That is so cool.  I think it's great to see any example, but it's not my picture, and it's from a very early eBay auction.  I think we all need to see it.
Thanks for posting this. I've always heard about these bags but never seen a picture of one. Now if we could just find some evidence of any of those weird colors of original Marx monsters....I keep hearing noise about these strange colors, but the only colors I've ever owned or seen proof of in the original Marx monsters from the 1960s are teal (1963), and orange (1964 or later). Any of another color are either Uncle Milton's or Mexi repops. I swear it's like hunting cryptozoological creatures. We'll find Bigfoot and Jersey Devil before we find MarxMons in Billious Pink or Gutpuke Green or whatever those colors were called. Hell, maybe they'll be playin' with'em.
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zombiehorror

Quote from: horrorhunter on April 19, 2013, 09:48:48 PM
     Thanks for posting this. I've always heard about these bags but never seen a picture of one. Now if we could just find some evidence of any of those weird colors of original Marx monsters....I keep hearing noise about these strange colors, but the only colors I've ever owned or seen proof of in the original Marx monsters from the 1960s are teal (1963), and orange (1964 or later). Any of another color are either Uncle Milton's or Mexi repops. I swear it's like hunting cryptozoological creatures. We'll find Bigfoot and Jersey Devil before we find MarxMons in Billious Pink or Gutpuke Green or whatever those colors were called. Hell, maybe they'll be playin' with'em.

I still believe my lime green Frank to be an original Vile Green (I think that was the colors name.).  Although I have seen similar lime colored ones from Mexico mine has none of the flashing issues associated with those repros!  Also I bought them from a seller in Pa. that stated they (there was an orange Phantom [I think it was one of the orange pumpkin/milky ones] as  well) were his from when he was a child.  There was also a 19 cent price tag on its base; not sure when the sticker fell off but apparently it did but I'm pretty sure there was a store name on it as well!

I'll have to check around to see if I have the pictures from the auction and/or a picture of the price sticker!

horrorhunter

Quote from: zombiehorror on April 19, 2013, 10:10:25 PM


I still believe my lime green Frank to be an original Vile Green (I think that was the colors name.).  Although I have seen similar lime colored ones from Mexico mine has none of the flashing issues associated with those repros!  Also I bought them from a seller in Pa. that stated they (there was an orange Phantom [I think it was one of the orange pumpkin/milky ones] as  well) were his from when he was a child.  There was also a 19 cent price tag on its base; not sure when the sticker fell off but apparently it did but I'm pretty sure there was a store name on it as well!

I'll have to check around to see if I have the pictures from the auction and/or a picture of the price sticker!
It would be cool to see some actual proof of the existence of these other colors. I'm kind of obsessed with MarxMons like many other collectors. I put together a set of the green ones a few years ago from different eBay sellers and I was on the fence about them being from the '60s for awhile. Under the base they are marked like the orange ones I have which I know are vintage. I finally just came to the conclusion they must be Mexican recasts because of the extra flashing and slight molding defects on some of them. They still look cool on the shelf with my teal and orange sets. A couple of my orange ones have that 19 cent price sticker under the base. If we could find one of the unusual color ones with the old price sticker and it looked like the sticker wasn't added later, or better yet the original owner could vouch for it being that way when first bought, it would be pretty good evidence.
     BTW I bought my original teal (I used to call them turquoise) set from dealers named Steve and Cathy Sawchuck from the old Toy Shop days. I bet many members on this site remember them. I gave what I thought was a lot for them back 10-12 years ago- $175. I just got tired of trying to put together a nice set and continually having to settle for lesser condition figures and still end up giving $15-$25 each for them. Of course now I'm glad I bought that set when that window of opportunity opened up. I haven't seen an entire set of the teal offered in a long time and I'd hate to think what one might cost in "like new" condition. It is common to see Buy-It-Nows at around the $100 mark each for the first run teal ones. Of course I suspect they actually sell at more around half that in auctions in excellent condition with the exception of Creatures and Phantoms with intact masks which always command a premium.
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Monster Bob

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Quote from: horrorhunter on April 19, 2013, 09:48:48 PM
     Thanks for posting this. I've always heard about these bags but never seen a picture of one. Now if we could just find some evidence of any of those weird colors of original Marx monsters....I keep hearing noise about these strange colors, but the only colors I've ever owned or seen proof of in the original Marx monsters from the 1960s are teal (1963), and orange (1964 or later). Any of another color are either Uncle Milton's or Mexi repops.

OK, here's your evidence. Bigfoot does exist.


Left, what I call "pumpkin orange"- much more obvious difference in person. Cameras are what they are. Right, standard or what I call "popscicle orange". Both original 1960s colors.






Left, what I call "muted dark blue", original "Osco Drug" price tag intact. Right, standard "bright" blue. Both original 1960s colors. Again, much more obvious difference in person.

Background, what I call "Cinema Creatures! by Marx bag". Original 1960s. Retail bag. Price intact.

Yes, these figures were sold LOOSE and BY THE BAG.



Oh, and BTW, Photoshop's newest software really sucks.



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Hepcat

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Quote from: horrorhunter on April 20, 2013, 12:28:59 AMI gave what I thought was a lot for them back 10-12 years ago- $175.

Great price!

Quote from: horrorhunter on April 20, 2013, 12:28:59 AMBTW I bought my original teal (I used to call them turquoise) set from dealers named Steve and Cathy Sawchuck from the old Toy Shop days. I bet many members on this site remember them.

You bet I do! I always associate them with "the one that got away" though. They had a half price sale in 2005 or so and their M.I.B. Revell Flash Gordon and Ideal Haunted House Game were listed at great prices. I phoned immediately but they were already sold.

:(

I was still getting their offering sheets in the mail up until a couple of years ago but I've not seen any lately. Do they still advertise in any magazine? I've never been able to find a website for them.

??? 
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horror1o1

Quote from: Monster Bob on April 20, 2013, 05:28:21 AM
OK, here's your evidence. Bigfoot does exist.


Left, what I call "pumpkin orange"- much more obvious difference in person. Cameras are what they are. Right, standard or what I call "popscicle orange". Both original 1960s colors.



i wonder if they had to use different plastic cause they ran out or maybe they didn't mix it right? Something to that effect. Or maybe it was a second run but soon after the first or vice versa?


Left, what I call "muted dark blue", original "Osco Drug" price tag intact. Right, standard "bright" blue. Both original 1960s colors. Again, much more obvious difference in person.

Background, what I call "Cinema Creatures! by Marx bag". Original 1960s. Retail bag. Price intact.

Yes, these figures were sold LOOSE and BY THE BAG.


Oh, and BTW, Photoshop's newest software really sucks.



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Monster Bob

Quotei wonder if they had to use different plastic cause they ran out or maybe they didn't mix it right? Something to that effect. Or maybe it was a second run but soon after the first or vice versa?



They are not even close in color. I have a complete set of these, and it is distinctly different in color and esp. value. More "white" and "matte" to the color, like other Marx figures produced. Same with the blue, more like the U.N.C.L.E. figures produced. They had a certain color ready to roll, needed to produce more figures to fill an order, and went with it. Obviously they made a jillion times more of the common colors. As I said in the other thread, these were known colors by figure guys years ago.

Hepcat

Quote from: Monster Bob on April 20, 2013, 05:28:21 AM
Background, what I call "Cinema Creatures! by Marx bag". Original 1960s. Retail bag. Price intact.

Yes, these figures were sold LOOSE and BY THE BAG.


I wonder how many unopened bags of those Movie Monsters exist? I'd venture to say that some of us here on this board would be willing to pay a silly price by any reasonable standards for an unopened old store stock bag of those.

Quote from: Monster Bob on April 20, 2013, 09:59:36 AM
They are not even close in color.... More "white" and "matte" to the color, like other Marx figures produced. Same with the blue, more like the U.N.C.L.E. figures produced. They had a certain color ready to roll, needed to produce more figures to fill an order, and went with it.

I think you're right. There was no such thing as "quality" control for kids' items in those days. It was all about just filling any orders as quickly and cheaply as possible.

Perhaps the more matte orange and blue figures were the ones packaged in the Movie Monsters bags.

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freddie poe

having experienced the Marx monsters first hand as a monster kid in the 1960's i would beg to differ that only blue and orange existed as original issues. the orange are commonly refereed to as Popsicle orange because the color closely resembled a orange Popsicle obviously but there are also "blue Popsicle" colors out there as well as i have a wolfman in this color from back in the day. it was not bought in recent times. it is a transparent type blue. also i have a "Steele Blue" phantom that much resembles the Marx Mexicans from the original Davy Crockett at the Alamo set. this is also a figure i have had in my collection since i was a monster kid.