Who's going to Wonderfest

[Creeper]

I wanted to post my thoughts on this matter too and this is not about putting anybody down at all here in this group.I wanted to say this about the UMA and Toy display.When the UMA got started on the Yahoo group the toy display was never brought up until later on down the years that came.But the comments that Packy made does make since.Just to remind everyone who may not know this I was the one who got CreepyJeepy Jeff to join up with the UMA plus i was like the 4th or 5th person to join up in the UMA when it was on Yahoo.I been dealing with Jeff for a long time and i thought he be good for the group because he could get monsterstuff to sale to us all.I thought if we had someone who was dealing with monster toys and different things we would have a chance to be able to build up our collections as we seem fit to do.Also I also who was one of the people who got Terry Ingrim to come to the Bash to see what was going on.After he saw how nice everything was and the people friendly and how much fun he would have.Then that s when some of you had made the trip there too.I was not one of those members that help build or paint the toy display but i do have alot of respect for the display and one other thing to and that is if you look at the things that are happening in this world today we the monsterkids who are collectors have something that we can work with to keep our minds off of the troubles around the world.We should be able to enjoy our hobby we have and not be jealous of other people s hobby.One of the subjects that is hard to deal with and that is art.That s right Art that means some people think they are better then others when it comes to doing drawings paintings other stuff like that.To me I am not jealous of anybody s artwork i think everybody does a wonderful job if you got what it takes to be an artist.So i just wanted to add these comments so it gives you a better understanding about other collectors too.Being a monsterkid and collector is the best thing that makes me happy in life.

[packy120353]

But the comments that Packy made does make since.

Thanks Creeper - Owch! Rereading my too-long post with less tired eyes today I see I wasn't crystal clear in the main point I was babbling about.

What I was attempting to convey was that even as a novice monster collector I was treated with equality and respect by an accomplished monster collector. There are no real ranks here by definition. I still think we need Ootmahs it might make everyone feeeeeeel better. 

Sorry to you poor ducks that waded through that indulgent drivel I assure you I am coherent again and to reward myself about to go to Dairy Queen.

[raycastile]

I want fried okra and homemade ice cream.

I had some fried okra the other day.  Pretty good.

[Scatter]

Truly sad. Has the switch from Yahoo made these wonderful folks elitists, or did the switch rather make you bitter?? The tenor of your posts is the best evidence against your position.

[The Drunken Severed Head]

I've never eaten a bed before !

I once dreamed I ate a giant marshmallow. When I woke up, my pillow was gone!

[The Drunken Severed Head]

I had some fried okra the other day.  Pretty good.

Raymond, my friend, if you come to Pittsburgh I'll make you the BEST fried okra! And anything else you want!

[BARON TIMOTHEUS BGG]

avenger writ: "I've never eaten a bed before !"
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oh, I say! Good Form, AVENGER, Good Form!
... Here, are some, of the reasons, why, I agree, with you; common sense prevailing!

"I've never eaten a bed before...
... Breakfast, unless, I'm, too tired, to get, out, of bed, to eat... because, if I do, then, I have, to get up, but, only, need a glass, of orange juice, as a chaser!"

"I've never eaten a bed before...
... Lunch, as it always makes me sleepy, in the mid-afternoon!

"I've never eaten a bed before...
... Dinner, as it spoils my appetite, and, I, usually, have, to skip dessert !

"I've never eaten a bed before...
... Bedtime, as it makes it difficult, to find a place, to sleep!

"I've never eaten a bed before...
... Purchasing it, at the Mattress Shoppe!

... Decidedly, frowned, upon, as a social faux passe, of the most ignorant sort!
... I committed this derelict behaviour, only, once... resultantly, the Shop-Keeper had the gall, to threaten me, with shop-lifting... so, I ate him, too! BUUURRRPPPP!

... Howe'er, 'tis, rather, difficult, to resist, the temptation; a good Mattress shoppe is, like, being, at a Smorgasbord! BEDS! YUMMMMMMMMM!

EXANIMO EVERNOW,
TIMMY & THE BARON & THE BARONESS & FRIENDS, GOO-O-OODD-D!, B.G.G.

[Brother D]

I wasn't going to post again, but saw the posts like this one from Toysoldierman, and since I had been contacted by a longtime UMA member (who shall remain nameless, but who I have great respect for), I decided to respond one last time. First all, as far as posts like Toysoldierman's, you know what you can do with it (that is, exactly where you can put the post). I was a member on the UMA for YEARS. Once again, I am going to remind you that I praised the UMA display for the first TWO YEARS of it being displayed, and the first year I have problems with it, I am branded as some sort of traitor. I gave my honest opinion of the display, and stand by it. I also stand by the assertion that the UMA has become a FAR less laid back and "common man's" forum as opposed to an elitist group who cowtows to a certain few. That's why I left. I in fact DID offer my services for the UMA display for the first couple of years, and it was made plain to me that they weren't really required. When I was a regular UMA poster, I posted regularly and often, LONG before most of the current members were regulars posters. I DO apologize to the members such as the one who contacted me, and others who are well-intentioned, if I came across as being too critical, but I honestly felt that input needed to be put forth. Otherwise, exactly HOW does change occur? I am sorry, but as I have said before, when I see that The Emperor has no clothes, I stand up and proclaim it loudly. If there can be no dissenting opinion, then exactly HOW is this group  NOT elitist? Always have, and always will be, one who marches to his own drum. Uncle Forry lives! Peace and Blessings.


Brother D

[Crazy1van]

D, you are quick to accuse us of condemning you for expressing your opinion, but aren't you doing the exact same thing?  Perhaps you are not familiar with common courtesies and believe that being blunt and ruse is the best way to get others to listen to you.  If that is so, I pity your childhood, but still hold you accountable for your own behaviour.

If you thought the display this year was not up to par, that would be a valid opinion that could be conveyed without open slurs.  I *AM* relatively new to the UMA, and I have only made it to one Con since joining, and I cannot in all honesty claim that I have contributed anything more than written posts and the occasional uploaded photo.  But I have made friends around here, and I truly believe that if I had a complaint, even if it was a highly subjective complaint, that I could let the folks here know about it without purposely trying to enrage anyone, or belittle their hard work.  

I cannot comment on how legitimate your view was regarding this year's display, but let's assume they are completely accurate; that Uncle Forry was not properly memorialized and that the materials displayed were not keeping to the traditions of Universal Monsters.  How does that translate into an elitist group of fan wanks than grovel at the feet of the Inner Circle?  You seem to disregard the amount of hard work and money and time put into everything, as though this was a television show that didn't live up to expectations in the 3rd season.  It isn't.  It is a labor of love, and had you made CONSTRUCTIVE comments then you would not have drawn so much ire upon yourself.  As someone who is clearly NOT one of the 'elite', I know I can still get them to listen to me in dissention by communicating without attacking.  That's not ass-kissing, it's just etiquette.  

For example, I was one of the many who resisted the switch from Yahoo groups to the open forum format.  There were a lot of us, as you should well recall, who wanted to stay at Yahoo.  Okay, we lost.  But that doesn't mean we were ignored.  The arguments were made and weighed, and the poeple doing all the work ultimately did what they thought would be best for the community they had created.  Did they make the right decision?  Who can say?  But they did make an INFORMED decision because people spoke up declaring pros and cons, and I can hardly resent them for doing what they felt was best.  After all, I was free to create my own forum with my own resources and pimp it out as an affiliate, alternative, or even arch-rival to the UMA forum site, and if I really thought they'd blown it I would have.

Something like, "Hey guys, I saw the display this year; first time in quite a while.  Some of you may remember me from the Yahoo days.  I remember how impressed I was with the display the first couple times I saw it, but this year it seemed to stray a bit much from the source material.  Any chance we'll see a return of the focus to one of the Universal classics next year?  Looking forward to it, Brother D." wouldn't have been too hard for someone with your obvious talents for writing.  Instead, you chose a confrontational stance that only a great fool wouldn't have predicted the negative responses garnered.  And since you are clearly not a great fool, I cannot choose the wine in front of you.

Change is good, and criticism can lead to needed change.  But do consider applying some of the critical comments made against you to the attitude you bring to the table, assuming you are going to continue posting here.  Every time you comment, you seem hung up on how you are a FORMER member, and that you are only posting AGAIN out of necessity.  Unless this necessity was to get a rise out of people, I believe your opinion has been voiced, and if you genuinely would like to see a shift in UMA Display focus, you may want to start making posts that will help achieve this, rather than keeping a swollen bruise enflamed for as long as you can.

I consider you very lucky to have been on the ground floor of the blossoming UMA, and I envy your presence at this year's WonderFest.  If these are things you see as positives, rather than negatives, please don't flaunt them around at people as though they should feel ashamed or afraid of, and use your position to suggest improvements without taking pot shots and indicating exactly what you think everyone else can do with their opinions that don't comply with your own (that is, telling them where to put their comments, like THAT was real mature).

And as always, we thank you for your support.

[Scatter]

I found the "shove it" comment particularly charming. It's a mystery to me why folks don't simply succumb to your endearing manner. Now, if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to suggest to Jordan that he could do a better job cleaning his room by beating him with a 2x4.