So within the Uni classics I think most people associate strength with Frankenstein, but really our fiend from the Black Lagoon was no slouch in the strength and fisticuffs dept.
Especially in Walks Among Us, I think he actually surpasses Frankenstein here.
He tossed people around like they were nothing, he bends the bars of his "cage" and frees himself, he took a a few bullets and all that is after the fact that he was burned alive.
So having said all that..who do you thing was the strongest? Who is The Hulk among the monsters??
Yeah, and in the first CREATURE, Captain Lucas states that the Gill Man could break a crocodile in half! The Creature has that animal strength, and man, does he ever show it in WALKS AMONG US! When he picks that dude up and SLAMS him down to the ground from the balcony, you can just imagine that it shattered every bone in his body! He SMASHES through a wall, flips a couch, crushes a stone pillar, etc! Then again, Ygor claims that The Monster, after being struck by lightning, has the strength of 100 men! I don't think we ever really got to see Frankenstein's full-out destructive force in any of the films. Frankenstein, at peak strength, versus The Creature, would be quite a battle!
As for a a more human monster, believe it or not, I think ol' Quasimodo had to be strong as an ox, hangin' on that big bell, shovin' stone slabs off the cathedral, climbing and swinging around like a big ol' gorilla! Kharis was a slow-moving bulldozer himself and The Wolf Man had that animalistic power along with the combined strength of the already hulkish Larry Talbot.
I still think of Frankenstein as The Hulk of the Unimonsters, but for unbridled ferocity & strength, I can't get that image of Don Megowan's Creature, out of my mind!
I was going to say the Creature for exactly the same reasons, U.P.!
This is a tough call. I always got the impression the Frankenstein monster was indeed like the Hulk, in that he got physically stronger with anger. Frankenstein obviously gave the monster augmented musculature configuration, but 100x?!? Maybe old Ygor was exaggerating a bit!
Quote from: The Spangler on March 31, 2010, 02:01:08 AM
This is a tough call. I always got the impression the Frankenstein monster was indeed like the Hulk, in that he got physically stronger with anger. Frankenstein obviously gave the monster augmented musculature configuration, but 100x?!? Maybe old Ygor was exaggerating a bit!
I actually always felt this way too. I think Frankenstien is synonomous with strength, especially to "kids". I always had the idea that you just couldnt stop Frank as a kid...now that I watch the films a bit closer I start to wonder.
In the 1st two films, he really was'nt like that though. He was shackled and antagonized by Fritz, in "Son" its starts becoming apparant that he is "super human" and by the time A&C rolled around he was a huge with practically super hero strength...atleast thats what I got out of it.
I think Wolf Man comes close, I think even Dracula should get some say in this. Still I am not sold on who the award goes to, Frank or Creature.
King Kong would step on these puny monsters!
Quote from: Radioactive Rod Whitenack on March 31, 2010, 01:48:46 PM
King Kong would step on these puny monsters!
Yeah, but I bet all the Uni's together would kick Kong's arse! Unless Wolfman bit him and he turned into a giant were-gor-wolf.
Quote from: BlackLagoon on March 31, 2010, 01:05:46 PM
I think Wolf Man comes close, I think even Dracula should get some say in this. Still I am not sold on who the award goes to, Frank or Creature.
You know, i asked my son who he thought was the strongest and he said Dracula, hands down. He pointed out that Drac's physical strength is supernatural in nature, therefore it
could be limitless. I never looked at it that way. The same may be true for Kharis then, afterall, he did pretty good with only one arm!
Quote from: The Spangler on March 31, 2010, 02:43:03 PM
You know, i asked my son who he thought was the strongest and he said Dracula, hands down. He pointed out that Drac's physical strength is supernatural in nature, therefore it could be limitless. I never looked at it that way. The same may be true for Kharis then, afterall, he did pretty good with only one arm!
Yeah with the super natural abilities one could only guess how
physically strong that makes Drac.
I was trying to stay away from that and decide on pure brute strength...lots of grey area when you add Dracula into things.
Quoteone could only guess how physically strong that makes Drac.
But then, there's always that business with throwing flower-pots at the Wolf Man ....
A poser, but I'd go w/Frankenstein, Dracula a close 2nd for the simple reason that they don't stay dead!
I just remembered, in REVENGE OF THE CREATURE, The Gill Man picks up a big ol' CAR and flips it down a hill! YIKES!!
QuoteFrankenstein, at peak strength, versus The Creature, would be quite a battle!
I always thought that
Frankenstein vs. The Creature would be a cool movie, though you'd have to really stretch to come up with some quasi-feasible premise to bring them together. If you don't count Kong and Godzilla, I'd go with Frankenstein, mainly because he's a favorite from childhood.
We should rank the lifting prowess of the big 5.
Here we go.
Gill-Man: automobile
Frankenstein Monster: laboratory console with Wolf Man on it // graveyard statue
Wolf Man: gravedigger // Frankenstein
Mummy: tana bowl // troublesome leg // stuff
Dracula: pretty vases // Renfield
That about covers it.
The question is troublesome and tends to run me around in circles trying to answer it... kinda like a rock/ scissor/ paper dilemma.
Frankenstein's monster is a re-animated patchwork of corpses. Essentially (a) big dead guy(s) shot with electricity. You rarely saw him at full strength in the Universal movies, supposedly. He often seemed 'in need of a charge'----like my cell phone. He struggled with Colin Clive, was undeniably able to overpower people one on one---but it was sloppy usually. In more 'caricaturesque' adaptations, the monster assumed HULK-like strength. Herman Munster.... and I recall a Halloween ad for Pepsi or some snack like Doritos, where the monster was carrying a tractor trailer on his shoulders full of said snack item because he was going to a party.
The Creature was some prehistoric missing link that was half animal. He was a brute. There's something about LITERALLY being half-animal that gives you a leg up, IMO. I don't recall anyone struggling with the Creature. He just swiped them away.
THAT said, the Universal monster fought another 'half animal' creature----the Wolfman-----and although the Wolfman was game and relentless, he appeared no physical match for the monster. It was like a HOF left tackle handling a speed rushing defensive end who, try as he might, could not really do anything with the left tackle. The Universal Wolfman, though, used very little of the assets that werewolves in more modern times used------the fangs and sharp claws that shred flesh. The Wolfman was a strangler more than anything-----even though when they found corpses, they had their throats ripped out.
Dracula in the Universal films seemd to be more of a shape shifting hypnotic charmer/ schemer than a powerful brute. Yes, it was implied that he had incredible strength-----but the only thing I remember seeing Bela Lugosi throw around was a vase at Lon Chaney, Jr.
Dracula seemed more like a Darth Vader, the Creature like a (very) scaled-down Mighty Joe Young and the Monster was like a big Michael Meyers.
Then there was A & C Meet Frankenstein----and Talbot was afraid that Dracula was going to 'fully revive' the Monster and do what-------rule the world? Couldn't a fighter jet take out the Monster? A bazooka? I don't think these movies ever really settled on how powerful their monsters were. Kinda makes it impossible to come to a definitive answer, IMO.
Does anyone else wish Universal had done "The Time Machine" instead of MGM? We could have had the Morlocks as the strongest instead of the wimpiest (even the Eloi could drive them off when they decided to lift a finger) Aurora "The Morlock" model kit, Palmer or MPC Morlocks, Telco Morlocks! and...Marx 6" Morlock...I get goosebumps.
This presumes Aurora looked to Universal for inspiration. There were plenty of monsters to base a model kit on besides Universal. Was the original Frankenstein even licensed? I don't remember I was only eight. Ok this post has multiple directions sorry!