White Zombie: 1985 to 1997/Rob Zombie: 1998 To Present
I'm just curious to see how many UMA'ers are a fans of both White/Rob Zombie? Some people prefer
White Zombie over Rob Zombie's solo career or material. I have to say, I truely am a fan of both.
Musically and aesthetically. I got to see White Zombie in Las Vegas 1989. They played a show in the desert,
very DIY.......and that was a kick butt show!!!! Up until '92', almost 75% of shows were played in the desert.
Mostly, PUNK shows, and those were great shows.
White Zombie in 1989, they were raw, energetic, and f***in' awesome!!! After the show I was definitely
hooked. I looked for every W.Z. LP, 7" or merchandise I could get my hands on, which was almost
impossible. First album I purchased, "Make them Die Slowly" the CD had a title printing error...." Let them Die Slowly"
Later, I bought Soul- Crusher. Both these recordings are/were on Caroline Records( hint, hint). It wasn't until "92"
when W.Z. really took-off in popularity. I'm guessing thanks to the (Mike Judge)BEAVIS and BUTTHEAD show?
I still believe W.Z. would have been popular without that show. B.and B. is a funny show, don't get me wrong.
After their success, I took an interest in all of the EP's/7" and rare stuff that was becoming more common.
White Zombie merchandise was always the coolest of the cool, from posters to T-shirts. You name it.
But, the same goes for R.Zombie. I was really disappointed when W.Z. disbanded, imagine my surprise.
Oh well........ I am still a fan of anything R.Z. does( except H2).
White Zombie clips didn't start appearing on Beavis & Butthead until 93' but in 92' they did tour as openers for Danzig on the How the Gods Kill tour which may have bumped up interest in them.
There is some "Zombie" talk here http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=7726.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=7726.0) in a thread about Hellbilly Deluxe 2
Personally I can't stand Make Them Die Slowly, Rob's delivery is just horrendous and repetitive. I'm not sure how much the producer Andy Wallace had to do with Zombie's improved sound on La Sexorcisto but in my opinion they were not a headlining act before that album.
Just to give you an idea how loong I have been into hard music,I fell in love with Sabbath,Cooper an a few others on a 1973 K-Tel double album.
IMO, WZ/ RZ is "okay". A few good songs but never anything mind blowing/hook laden or riff slamming.
Decent enuf hard horror rock/metal. Nothin I would actually pay for.
I was at a friend's house playing darts...well...okay, so we were seeing who could lodge the dart deepest into the wall.
We were jamming out to the late great metal station,before they sold out to a country station...anyways..the radio dj came on
and introduced White Zombie as a new group,the song was "Thunderkiss '65"....it was amazing...
The very next day,I went to local music store and bought the cassette...later on I bought their second album...
When he went solo...I still listened to him...I think Hellbilly deluxe was the last tape I owned...after that...other bands grabbed my attention.
So my faves of WZ/RZ are: Thunder Kiss'65/Black sunshine/More human than human/Never gonna stop/Devilman calling??dont know the name of the song..
I am a huge fan of white zombie and rob zombie.His new album is really good,but my favorite zombie album is White Zombie's
La Sexorcisto. I have Make them die slowly off of amazon.com. But yet to get the white zombie box set. But astro creep wasn't that good but a few songs.But me personally i like white zombie better.
Quote from: zombiehorror on February 17, 2010, 05:12:20 PM
White Zombie clips didn't start appearing on Beavis & Butthead until 93' but in 92' they did tour as openers for Danzig on the How the Gods Kill tour which may have bumped up interest in them.
There is some "Zombie" talk here http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=7726.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=7726.0) in a thread about Hellbilly Deluxe 2
Personally I can't stand Make Them Die Slowly, Rob's delivery is just horrendous and repetitive. I'm not sure how much the producer Andy Wallace had to do with Zombie's improved sound on La Sexorcisto but in my opinion they were not a headlining act before that album.
Make them die slowly is not a great LP, I agree.
I've got the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie boxed set. I've tried, but I just can't get into that early White Zombie stuff. I like the God of Thunder cover and a couple other songs, but aside from that, I'm not too crazy about their pre-sexorcisto releases. Overall, I prefer solo Rob Zombie over White Zombie.
Rob Zombie's Hellbilly Deluxe 2 was freaking awesome!
Zombie did a good job on the Black Sabbath Remake of "Children of the Grave"
Quote from: raycastile on February 22, 2010, 09:38:13 PM
I've got the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie boxed set. I've tried, but I just can't get into that early White Zombie stuff. I like the God of Thunder cover and a couple other songs, but aside from that, I'm not too crazy about their pre-sexorcisto releases. Overall, I prefer solo Rob Zombie over White Zombie.
Their (WZ)earlier stuff is kind of weird, almost garage-punk-psychedelic-missmash. I also purchased the Let
Sleeping Corpses lie box set. Only because I'm a fan of White Zombie....and I didn't have too much rare recordings.
Many people I have talked to, also did not dig WZ's earlier stuff or pre-sexorcisto recordings.
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on February 22, 2010, 11:20:22 PM
Zombie did a good job on the Black Sabbath Remake of "Children of the Grave"
Yep! A great cover doesn't sound like a carbon copy of the original. He'd done some good remakes........musically that is!
Children of the grave - white zombie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36nj-TS420Y#)
I like their music on CD but I seen them live a couple of times and he was horrible. I have little respect for bands who cannot play live. I just consider them a studio band.
Sal
I haven't seen Rob Zombie in a few years but I would highly recommend that anyone go see him?!? I think just the opposite, he as well as his fellow bandmates have never failed to put on one hell of a show. I saw White Zombie for the first time back in '92' when they were still an opening band and probably 5 times since then never a let down. But that's just my opinion.
I've seen them at Roseland quite a few times and a couple of other shows that I cannot remember but it sounded like Rob was smoking while singing. I don't know, all I know is they didn't sound good and this was every time I saw them live. Can't say the same for other bands I am into but it's clear Rob Zombie takes advantage of the studio when producing albums.
Sal
Will be hitting Mayhem Festival tonight!! Checked out some recent Youtube footage and Rob has definitely let his live show slide, sounds very out of breath during alot of songs....seems like just not even bothering to sing some lyrics...My theory being a vegetarian has finally caught up with him, mentally and physically!! Humans are designed to eat flesh n' meat and lots of it!! If nothing else I will enjoy the horror/sci-fi clips he uses and the music itself. Far as I know cameras are allowed so hope to get some footage as well!
Quote from: zombiehorror on July 20, 2010, 04:23:33 PM
Will be hitting Mayhem Festival tonight!! Checked out some recent Youtube footage and Rob has definitely let his live show slide, sounds very out of breath during alot of songs....seems like just not even bothering to sing some lyrics...My theory being a vegetarian has finally caught up with him, mentally and physically!! Humans are designed to eat flesh n' meat and lots of it!! If nothing else I will enjoy the horror/sci-fi clips he uses and the music itself. Far as I know cameras are allowed so hope to get some footage as well!
There's a guy here at the office today walking about in a White Zombie Tee!
I've never seen them in concert either, but I've always liked them/him. When I first heard WZ in the 90s, I really like the layered sound and I was delighted by the movie dialogue clips he used as intros.
Quote from: charp13 on July 20, 2010, 08:45:44 PM
I've never seen them in concert either, but I've always liked them/him. When I first heard WZ in the 90s, I really like the layered sound and I was delighted by the movie dialogue clips he used as intros.
They were so good 'WAY BACK WHEN". Great live band, and always gave 110 %.
I saw 'em 1989, in the Las Vegas desert. They were raw and starting to become
extremely popular. One could tell what the future held for Rob and CO. Think about
it......WZ were only around five yrs., at the time I saw them. But, I'm really fortunate
I got to see them, in the early days.
Rob and the rest of the band did not disappoint...What a great freaking show!! Rob was on point all night only missed few lyrics and wasn't all winded like I heard in some of the Youtube clips from other shows. The worst part about the show was the shortened set list, I was really hoping to hear Werewolf Women of the SS or Werewolf, Baby!...oh well maybe next time! I'm uploading vids to Youtube so will post link once they're finished..not the best quality mind you but you'll get the idea. I was in the lawn section but made my way down to the very front of it to get the video.
Here was the setlist~
1. What Lurks On Channel X?
2. Superbeast
3. Scum of the Earth
4. Living Dead Girl
5. More Human Than Human
6. Sick Bubble-Gum
7. House of 1000 Corpses
8. Never Gonna Stop
9. Mars Needs Women
10. Thunder Kiss '65
11. School's Out
12. Dragula
I was only able to record songs 1-5, 9 & 10 because I only had a 2G memory card (4G was screwing up) and had to make sure and record Mars Needs Women for my daughters. Josephyne has been in love with that song since Hellbilly Deluxe 2 came out and now Samantha is trying to sing it too. They just love themselves some "Zombie"! Really wish I could have recorded Dragula it intro'd with a long clip from the end of Munsters, Go Home! and towards the end of the song faces of our beloved Universal Monsters kept flashing on the screens! I looked at a few Youtube videos and although the Munsters intro was the same I didn't notice the Uni-Monsters....Rob must have known someone from the UMA was attending last night...LOL!
QuoteReally wish I could have recorded Dragula it intro'd with a long clip from the end of Munsters, Go Home! and towards the end of the song faces of our beloved Universal Monsters kept flashing on the screens! I looked at a few Youtube videos and although the Munsters intro was the same I didn't notice the Uni-Monsters....Rob must have known someone from the UMA was attending last night...LOL!
That's awesome!!! I bet the show was good. But, only twelve songs?!? I'm still
waiting for Mr. Zombie and Fiends to perform in Vegas.
I so hope this tour expands....I missed their last tour together!
So far the the only confirmed dates are:
9/30 - Los Angeles, CA - Gibson Amphitheatre
10/1 - San Diego, CA - Harrah's Rincon
10/2 - Tuscon, AZ - Anselmo Valencia Amphitheater
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Quote from: zombiehorror on July 31, 2010, 10:18:41 PM
I so hope this tour expands....I missed their last tour together!
So far the the only confirmed dates are:
9/30 - Los Angeles, CA - Gibson Amphitheatre
10/1 - San Diego, CA - Harrah's Rincon
10/2 - Tuscon, AZ - Anselmo Valencia Amphitheater
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Wow, cool!!!! I hope they come to Vegas?!?
I am a big fan of White Zombie and Rob Zombie! I have got all there stuff! Even have Make Them Die Slowly ( which I don't think is really good) but I have it. Also have the rare Frankenstein cd of Rob Zombie's.
Quote from: The Creeper on August 21, 2010, 08:15:48 PM
I am a big fan of White Zombie and Rob Zombie! I have got all there stuff! Even have Make Them Die Slowly ( which I don't think is really good) but I have it. Also have the rare Frankenstein cd of Rob Zombie's.
I have MAKE 'EM on vinyl, and a lot of older WZ stuff. The Frankenstein cd, seems interesting.
I would like to see that. ;D
Here is a picture of it. I got mine off of ebay.
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Quote from: marsattacks666 on August 22, 2010, 03:11:57 AM
The Frankenstein cd, seems interesting.
I would like to see that. ;D
Just an FYI, the cd is clips of words/music from Universal's Frankenstein films, hand picked and compiled by Rob, it is not Rob's music.....I picked it up on day of release and really dug it! Just wish he would have gotten the chance to do other, "The Words & Music of..." cds!
Here's a thread about the cd, http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=6648.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=6648.0)
Make Them Die Slowly is definitely an acquired taste...though I don't know anyone that actually has a taste for it...LOL!
I'm moderate on RZ meaning I dig it on the rare times I turn the radio on but don't own any.
LOVE classic Cooper but really not much into the 80's and beyond.
Adding in the MurderDolls is a wise choice. It's like having a good meal with some fine brew/wine and adding in the blood pudding for dessert.
I agree! I love the Murderdolls! I am also a big Alice cooper fan!
I have seen the MurderDolls, I think in '05. They had their S(*at*)#* together.
I am looking foward in seeing them on the Hallowe'en Hootenanny Tour, with
Alice and RZ.
I like both, Although White Zombie had HOT chic guitar player (bass). Any how, if you like all kinds of music check out my you tube page. It's got all kinds of Cool stuff on it plus check out my back ground see if you recognize any one? Search for video called Pantera and the Monsters. That's mine and it will lead you to my page. Hope people check it out. Thanks, MONSTERNUTT. >:D
Quote from: Monsternutt on August 26, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
I like both, Although White Zombie had HOT chic guitar player (bass). Any how, if you like all kinds of music check out my you tube page. It's got all kinds of Cool stuff on it plus check out my back ground see if you recognize any one? Search for video called Pantera and the Monsters. That's mine and it will lead you to my page. Hope people check it out. Thanks, MONSTERNUTT. >:D
Cool!!!! ;)
Only heard the album Hellbilly Deluxe but I love some of the songs. Dragula and Meet the Creeper are probably my favourites
I'm finally going to see Rob Zombie in concert. I've got a ticket to the Halloween Hootenanny show Oct. 7 at the Family Arena in St. Charles (where I live!)
So, not only will I see Rob, I'll see Alice Cooper, too! I've never been a big fan of Alice Cooper. Nothing against him, but I just never got into his music. But, in preparation for this concert, I bought his greatest hits album, Mascara and Monsters. So I'll be boning up on his work in the weeks before the show. There might be a quiz or something, so I have to be ready!
Our fearless leader, Terry Ingram, extolled the virtues of Alice Cooper to me in a phone call recently. I was trying to sell him on listening to Lady Gaga. So now I'm listening to Alice. I think General Terry should take up the challenge and listen to Gaga.
Anyway, I'm excited to finally see Rob live. I'm a big Zombie fan. I even like his movies. I like the whole package. Rob Zombie is cool.
QuoteI'm a big Zombie fan. I even like his movies. I like the whole package. Rob Zombie is cool
My wife and I dig Rob too. Hopefully we get to see him soon? Still waiting
on a Las Vegas date.
always been a rob zombie fan, my older brother is the one that got me into him when we were both younger been a fan ever since!
Quote from: TypH on September 29, 2010, 08:11:54 PM
always been a rob zombie fan, my older brother is the one that got me into him when we were both younger been a fan ever since!
Great avatar!
I am a big fan of both WZ and RZ. I had heard several WZ songs before and thought they were pretty good, but when the US trailer for Godzilla 2000 came out they used Rob's song Super Beast (a very appropriate song for the King of the Monsters) which I thought was great and was surprised when I hunted it down to find it was a now solo Rob Z! I also like Rob's movies, though I haven't seen H2 yet. I liked his Halloween remake because of the expanded backstory and psychological insight to young Michael, after he was an adult I thought it lost it's impact.
Rob Zombie has always has an interesting take on all his projects.
I feel that his mind is filled with so many images and information, through
out his life. That when he does come out with a project, it's a hit or a miss.
R.Zombie is one of us. A product of the Television babysitter. He is very lucky
and fortunate to execute his ideas.
Love rob zombie and white zombie. What amazes me is how soft spoken he is offstage.
Quote from: Dr. Madd on November 06, 2010, 06:05:31 PM
Love rob zombie and white zombie. What amazes me is how soft spoken he is offstage.
I know, right!!! He is the coolest NERD ever. Well, besides me. Lol ;D
I stopped paying attention to Rob after White Zombie broke up. He seemed less like a musician and more like a cartoon.
Now, Sean Yseult - THERE'S a musician that should be followed. Her surf band was good and Rock City Morgue even better!
Quote from: Drew Bludd on November 27, 2010, 04:00:50 PM
I stopped paying attention to Rob after White Zombie broke up. He seemed less like a musician and more like a cartoon.
Now, Sean Yseult - THERE'S a musician that should be followed. Her surf band was good and Rock City Morgue even better!
she is totally hot!!! RCM, rocks too!
I hear so many people say Rob Zombie was cool back when he was in White Zombie, but now he sux. I don't get this attitude. White Zombie was cool because of Rob Zombie, not the other way around. I like WZ, but I like Rob's solo stuff more. I have the "Let Sleeping Corpses Lie" set, and I can't even stand to listen to the early "noise rock" WZ stuff. It gives me a headache. I've tried. I can't do it. I can stomach "Skin" onward, and I really like the "God of Thunder" cover. But I breathe a sigh of relief once the "La Sexorcisto" songs start. Whew.
It really comes down to the this. Rob Zombie created W.Z., NOT Sean Yseult. Yes, she and RoB Z. were the
original combo to start the band, but, Rob was and is the brain-child. Rob Zombie's signature, ideas, blood
is all over W.Z. and his solo stuff.
Quote from: Drew Bludd on November 27, 2010, 04:00:50 PM
I stopped paying attention to Rob after White Zombie broke up. He seemed less like a musician and more like a cartoon.
I'm a big fan of La Sexorsisto and most of what followed (I only like a few songs from 'Educated Horses'). I know what you mean about after White Zombie, Rob seemed less like a musician and more like a cartoon, but I like that about him. I liked 70s KISS for the same reason; The Misfits too. To me, the image is part of what I'm buying into. I love it when a band that I like has an image that I dig! ;)
Quote from: MrZero on December 07, 2010, 02:21:38 PM
I'm a big fan of La Sexorsisto and most of what followed (I only like a few songs from 'Educated Horses'). I know what you mean about after White Zombie, Rob seemed less like a musician and more like a cartoon, but I like that about him. I liked 70s KISS for the same reason; The Misfits too. To me, the image is part of what I'm buying into. I love it when a band that I like has an image that I dig! ;)
There is a KISS thread in the music sectio, if you are intrested too?
Quote from: marsattacks666 on December 08, 2010, 04:24:58 PM
There is a KISS thread in the music sectio, if you are intrested too?
I'll have to check that out! ;)
I'm sure I've mentioned this before; my youngest daughter is a huge Rob Zombie supporter, everytime we go somewhere in my truck the kids get to pick a cd and for Sam it's always Rob Zombie, usually Hellbilly Deluxe II. So for Christmas I started her cd collection with Hellbilly Deluxe II, the censored version of course.....she couldn't even look away from the cd long enough to smile for the camera.
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Quote from: zombiehorror on January 04, 2011, 01:58:58 PM
I'm sure I've mentioned this before; my youngest daughter is a huge Rob Zombie supporter, everytime we go somewhere in my truck the kids get to pick a cd and for Sam it's always Rob Zombie, usually Hellbilly Deluxe II. So for Christmas I started her cd collection with Hellbilly Deluxe II, the censored version of course.....she couldn't even look away from the cd long enough to smile for the camera.
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THAT......is an awesome pic!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Too cool!
Just ordered my ticket to the Marilyn Manson/Rob Zombie Twins of Evil tour for the Stl show on the 5th of October! I was debating whether I wanted to go or not since I'm not a fan of Manson's, a local radio station finally made up my mind though by offering presale tickets for $18.
In stores today!!! New Rob Zombie, Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendor!!
Love White Zombie's '89 album, Make Them Die Slowly. La Sexorcisto was great, but did not like AstroCreep, since it was a precursor of the techno dance stuff Rob does now that I personally despise.
Was going thru some old magazines and found this RIP magazine (1994) photo special~
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I used to like blasting Dragula with the roof open on my 2000 Honda Accord when I first got it. ;)
One of my best concert memories was the Rob Zombie/Ozzy Osbourne BLACK CHRISTMAS tour from 2001. Fantastic show all around!!
I haven't seen Rob Zombie in a while