As of yesterday, the editor was let go and replaced with a pair of action film editors, and Danny Elfman walked and took his gothic score with him. A new composer has been assigned, who creates grunge rock scores. Since he only has eight weeks to compose and record it, how good could it be, especially if it's going to be grunge rock. Full articles are on IMDB
Why is Universal effing this up!!!
You know, I think Ed WOod could have done a better job than Universal is doing.
Call me naive, but I'm not gonna get worked up over anything until I see it.
With that, if it sucks...I'll be the 1st one to rip em a new one...right now...I'll give em the benefit of the doubt.
Quote from: StyreneDude on November 18, 2009, 07:43:57 AM
As of yesterday, the editor was let go and replaced with a pair of action film editors, and Danny Elfman walked and took his gothic score with him. A new composer has been assigned, who creates grunge rock scores. Since he only has eight weeks to compose and record it, how good could it be, especially if it's going to be grunge rock. Full articles are on IMDB
Why is Universal effing this up!!!
Why is this news "terrible"? From Slashfilm:
"got the lowdown revealing that previously attached editor Dennis Virkler (editing credits including the Schumacher Batman films) has been replaced by Walter Murch and action expert Mark Goldblatt. Why is this good? Well first, Schumacher's Batmans are a joke to say the least so I say good riddance (was I too harsh?). Second, Goldblatt edited James Cameron's TERMINATOR movies and several Michael Bay flicks while Murch edited sound for THE GODFATHER PART 2, served as picture editor for APOCALYPSE NOW and edited GHOST and RETURN TO OZ"
Sounds like they're working hard to make the best film possible, to ME...
I am going to reserve judgment until after I see the end credits.
Quote from: Creature Features on November 18, 2009, 12:55:59 PM
Why is this news "terrible"? From Slashfilm:
"got the lowdown revealing that previously attached editor Dennis Virkler (editing credits including the Schumacher Batman films) has been replaced by Walter Murch and action expert Mark Goldblatt. Why is this good? Well first, Schumacher's Batmans are a joke to say the least so I say good riddance (was I too harsh?). Second, Goldblatt edited James Cameron's TERMINATOR movies and several Michael Bay flicks while Murch edited sound for THE GODFATHER PART 2, served as picture editor for APOCALYPSE NOW and edited GHOST and RETURN TO OZ"
Sounds like they're working hard to make the best film possible, to ME...
Calling in an action editor and a grunge rock composer is going to improve this film how? I don't want to see an action film with a rock soundtrack, I want to see a horror film. It's bad enough they reshot stuff, added unnecessary cgi, and changed the release date twice. It sounds like they have no faith in the film at all. They're trying too hard to make it appealing for several audiences, instead of focusing on the core audience.
Still, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I just want so badly for this to be a great film, and everything so far points to the contrary. The second trailer had a completely different tone than the first, and lost everything that made it seem great.
Quote from: StyreneDude on November 18, 2009, 01:42:56 PM
Calling in an action editor and a grunge rock composer is going to improve this film how? I don't want to see an action film with a rock soundtrack, I want to see a horror film. It's bad enough they reshot stuff, added unnecessary cgi, and changed the release date twice. It sounds like they have no faith in the film at all. They're trying too hard to make it appealing for several audiences, instead of focusing on the core audience.
Still, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I just want so badly for this to be a great film, and everything so far points to the contrary. The second trailer had a completely different tone than the first, and lost everything that made it seem great.
it DID? Oh well; still seemed great to ME.
I liked new trailer. I think it will bring in the core fan base with the name alone...a fresh new look will attract (hopefully) new and young fans...which will in turn attract many mainstream goodies that have the Wolf Man name on them...and that is good for guys like us.
Star Trek kept the basic idea and storyline while keeping with the times and adding beautifully done cgi, a cool soundtrack...and tons of cool collectors items followed.
If Wolf Man follows in that path..it should be cool. It'll bring the purists like us out into the woodwork and get some new blood wondering what this is all about.
I'm sure dvd/blu ray sales went up on the original Star Trek series after the movie came out....if this gets people to buy the classics, demand the product and so forth...everyone makes out.
I hope they work things out. Awful news. ??? ??? ??? ???
Quote from: BlackLagoon on November 18, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
Call me naive, but I'm not gonna get worked up over anything until I see it.
With that, if it sucks...I'll be the 1st one to rip em a new one...right now...I'll give em the benefit of the doubt.
I think that is the right attitude. None of us have seen the film yet. It is a shame they lost Danny Elfman. He is one of the all time great composers.
From AICN~
Update: Earlier this afternoon, I started getting emails from Universal insisting that The Playlist's main contention - that Universal Co-Chair Donna Langley is overseeing a studio cut of the THE WOLFMAN - is incorrect. I just got off the phone with producer Scott Stuber, and he has assured me that they have settled on a cut (which tested strongly back in November), and are now in the process of mixing, getting the final f/x and dropping in credits. Here are the particulars according to Stuber:
1) It was Joe Johnston's idea to bring in editor Walter Murch after the spring '09 reshoots to supply a "fresh perspective" and, most importantly, get the film in shape. "We were running a little long in that phase because we'd added new footage," said Stuber. "So it was about shaping that footage. There's never been that kind of contention; it's never been this editing suite vs. that editing suite." Stuber had nothing but praise for Dennis Virkler's work, and insisted this was all about getting a new pair of eyes. My opinion: if Walter Murch is willing to work on your film, you hire Walter Murch.
2) Murch did the bulk of the work. Mark Goldblatt was only on for three or four weeks to assist with a complicated London set piece.
3) Moving the release date from November to February was all about finishing the f/x, particularly in that London sequence. "You have all of these backgrounds you've got to get right," said Stuber. "All of these period buildings and the way they're lit. They weren't getting finished correctly, so they sort of took you out of [the film] a little bit. Getting the extra six weeks to work on that stuff was helpful."
4) Per Stuber: "The thing about Donna [Langley]... they weren't really involved in that stuff. They knew [what we were] doing, and they were supportive of it, but there's never been an editing room that was sanctioned by the studio against the filmmakers."
5) The dual test screenings in November were not dueling test screenings. "There were sequences or pieces that we wanted to try differently," said Stuber. "And we did them back-to-back so we could watch them. Like when [inspector Francis] Abbberline (Hugo Weaving) arrives at the house for the first time." Basically, it was all about rhythm and pacing. Nothing major. By the way, they've got their R-rating from the MPAA, so don't worry about that being rescinded.
6) The future of Universal's other "Classic Monsters" is not contingent on the success of THE WOLFMAN. Each of these projects is its own entity, and they all have little to do with one another.
Overall, Stuber sounded pleased with the film. Obviously, he's relieved that this multi-year odyssey is coming to a close, but everything seems to be coming together. In fact, we might have some very good WOLFMAN-related news to share with you this week or next, so stay tuned.
~The latest issue of HorrorHound also proposes that Danny Elfman didn't take his score with him but that Paul Haslinger was only brought in to score new scenes that were part of the reshoots since Danny was already on another project. Though I think their only proof of it was that Danny is still listed in both trailers under "Music by".
Thanks ZH for the great update.
My wife's Bday is Feb 12th, and although she knows how long I've waited for this film, it'll be the 13th for me...unless....someone here gets a bead on an advanced screening in LA!!!!!!!!!!
OG
Well that's certainly great news! Thanks for the update, Zombie.
Did you guys read yesterday that they canned the new score, and Elfman's score is now the final one being used? He's too busy doing Alice, so they have other people putting his score in.
This seems like a very late date to be doing this, but one thing I do like, is the music I've heard in the trailers.. I hope its a bit like that.
Still can't wait to see the finished product.
The clips we've seen have been FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
63monsterkidd
I look forward to seeing this film. I am excited all while holding my breath. There will be much to discuss upon seeing the film. Hopefully, the discussion will be positive. But if it's anything like Van Helsing .. it will be savaged like an angry wolf.
Same here, I am very psyched for this movie! All the previews have looked fantastic, and Rick Baker's makeup is a great homage to the original.
Please just don't make The Wolfman try to cross an ice skating rink and end up with a cute puss full of snow like Kong.
Signed,
Still Bitter
Quote from: packy120353 on January 28, 2010, 10:29:33 PM
Please just don't make The Wolfman try to cross an ice skating rink and end up with a cute puss full of snow like Kong.
Signed,
Still Bitter
Bingo!