Thought post this here and see what you all think?I like the old B/W monster flicks.But theres some that would like to see turn to color.Heres my wish list of movies.Now whats yours?
The wolfman
Frankenstein
The Thing
Mummys Tomb
Dr.Jeckly and Mr.Hyde Fredrick March version.
The Fly
The Wolfman
The Thing from another world
Them
White Zombie
Psycho
The Original Thing was done in color back in the 90tys. and The Fly was in color :P
I would like to see
The Bride Of Frankenstein
A&C Meet Frankenstein
The Creature from the Black Lagoon
It the Terror from Beyond Space
The Crawling Eye
Tom
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 20, 2009, 04:46:56 PM
The Fly
The Wolfman
The Thing from another world
Them
White Zombie
Psycho
The Original Fly is in color unless its the Return of the Fly you mean 8)
Karloff Frankenstein in Color (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTSAfJ6Smo#normal)
The Wolf Man - in Color! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZa1kTAUhM&NR=1#normal)
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 21, 2009, 12:43:57 AM
Karloff Frankenstein in Color (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTSAfJ6Smo#normal)
The Wolf Man - in Color! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZa1kTAUhM&NR=1#normal)
Holycow are these on dvd or something :)?
Quote from: Wolfman66 on September 21, 2009, 01:07:15 AM
Holycow are these on dvd or something?
Nope, just YouTube. There just a couple of (very) short clips that Kerry Gammill colorized in Photoshop.
I think I have ocd with the whole B&W/color thing...I'm not a big fan of tampering with anything. There is just something about black and white. Its almost like stop motion..its just a kind of magic that cgi, color or anything cant really top..for me anyway.
Did anyone see that one Family Guy where it cuts to Ted Turner addressing an audience? "Here is something I think you will all enjoy...I've colorized the moon."--Guess you have to see it, funny stuff.
Quote from: BlackLagoon on September 21, 2009, 03:11:13 PM
I think I have ocd with the whole B&W/color thing...I'm not a big fan of tampering with anything. There is just something about black and white. Its almost like stop motion..its just a kind of magic that cgi, color or anything cant really top..for me anyway.
Did anyone see that one Family Guy where it cuts to Ted Turner addressing an audience? "Here is something I think you will all enjoy...I've colorized the moon."--Guess you have to see it, funny stuff.
Family Guy rules, and I think I have scene that episode? I also concur with you on the colorization of movies. Did you ever see N.O.T.L.D. colorized? Disappointing.
Quote from: BlackLagoon on September 21, 2009, 03:11:13 PM
There is just something about black and white. Its almost like stop motion..its just a kind of magic that cgi, color or anything cant really top..for me anyway.
I agree. The B&W adds an atomosphere that gets lost with color. NOTLD is much better BW as opposed to color IMO. I shudder to think if Bela's Dracula was colorized...that could be terrifying.
I dont know...I used to have a colorized orignal King Kong vcr tape. I did not like it.
But, I am curious to see...
Frankenstien
The Wolfman
and Frankenstien Meets Rhe Wolfman all in color.
When Dark Shadows first came out, it was B/W for a year or two. Talk about creepy!
Quote from: BlackLagoon on September 21, 2009, 03:11:13 PM
I think I have ocd with the whole B&W/color thing...I'm not a big fan of tampering with anything. There is just something about black and white. Its almost like stop motion..its just a kind of magic that cgi, color or anything cant really top..for me anyway.
I agree!
I feel... colorizing movies is not damaging the original movie at all. I mean come on.. the original is still out there in B&W in 10 different versions ,box sets, high def ,blueRay, why not a colorized version ? Who is it hurting ? It's just fun to see what something looks like in color. I for one would love to see some of our favorite monster films in color :)
IMO I personally feel L&H's The March of the Wooden Soldiers is way better in color. I do not even watch the B&W version anymore.
Tom
Quote from: Wolfman66 on September 20, 2009, 10:35:46 PM
The Original Fly is in color unless its the Return of the Fly you mean 8)
It must be return of the fly, cause it's B&W ;D
Quote from: BaronLatos35 on September 21, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
I agree. The B&W adds an atomosphere that gets lost with color. NOTLD is much better BW as opposed to color IMO. I shudder to think if Bela's Dracula was colorized...that could be terrifying.
Well said, I think NOTLD gets a huge part of its mystique and creepiness from being B&W. That statement could be said for all the Uni's too.
Can you imagine Plan 9 From Outer Space in color??....I swear it sucks me in because of the B&W..and for the many other reasons, thats another post though.
I hated watching it B&W, color might make it better ;D
NOTLD is better in B&W, probally one of the only Zombie movies that is better in B&W.
Quote from: Tom Smith Monsternut on September 21, 2009, 10:30:32 PM
I feel... colorizing movies is not damaging the original movie at all. I mean come on.. the original is still out there in B&W in 10 different versions ,box sets, high def ,blueRay, why not a colorized version ? Who is it hurting ? It's just fun to see what something looks like in color. I for one would love to see some of our favorite monster films in color :)
Tom
box sets, high def, blue ray is not chaning the film-that is just packaging...color is changing it at its core. those movies have a atmosphere that would not be there in color. so you can have your King Kongs in color-give me the real one
How come nobody is ever interested in seeing GONE WITH THE WIND (substitute color movie of your choice) in B/W?
I prefer most of the B&W's as they are, but one exception is The Creature From The Black Lagoon. This is the only classic horror/sci-fi flick I've viewed on the big screen (in it's original 3D). It was outstanding, but w/it's underwater shots, & the cool Creature costume, this movie would've been significantly enhanced if it were shot in color.
Quote from: LundyAfterMidnight on September 22, 2009, 12:11:42 PM
I prefer most of the B&W's as they are, but one exception is The Creature From The Black Lagoon. This is the only classic horror/sci-fi flick I've viewed on the big screen (in it's original 3D).
Were you able to see this with polarized 3D or was it anaglyph? From what I understand, Universal only distributes anaglyph (blue and orange) prints of Creature (and It Came from Outer Space), and having seen both this way--not that they're not a lot of fun--I can imaging them looking a lot better with the REAL original 3D.
Quote from: MDG on September 22, 2009, 01:23:16 PM
From what I understand, Universal only distributes anaglyph (blue and orange) prints of Creature (and It Came from Outer Space)
They showed both of those in polarized 3D at the (what's the name of that theater?) 3D fests in LA, a couple of years ago.
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 22, 2009, 09:51:27 AM
How come nobody is ever interested in seeing GONE WITH THE WIND (substitute color movie of your choice) in B/W?
How about GONE WITH THE WIND in 3D ;D
Quote from: MDG on September 22, 2009, 01:23:16 PM
Were you able to see this with polarized 3D or was it anaglyph? From what I understand, Universal only distributes anaglyph (blue and orange) prints of Creature (and It Came from Outer Space), and having seen both this way--not that they're not a lot of fun--I can imaging them looking a lot better with the REAL original 3D.
I'm embarrased to say I'm not aquainted w/the difference! This was w/the blue & orange (?) glasses, over 10yrs ago at a retro theater in the KC area. It certainly worked for me, a great monster moment!!
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 22, 2009, 09:51:27 AM
How come nobody is ever interested in seeing GONE WITH THE WIND (substitute color movie of your choice) in B/W?
cuz color movies should be in color and b/w movies should be in b/w
Quote from: LaettnersLegacy on September 23, 2009, 02:45:37 PM
cuz color movies should be in color and b/w movies should be in b/w
Tell it to the people who want to watch b/w movies in color! I was just wondering why you never hear of anybody wanting the opposite. Why would watching b/w movies in color be interesting (or, somehow, "better"), but not color movies in b/w?
B&W movies in color, why?, color brings B&W to life.
Color movies in B&W, why?, exactly, why?, if color brings B&W to life, then B&W would bring color to dull
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 23, 2009, 04:06:30 PM
if color brings B&W to life, then B&W would bring color to dull
I disagree. I think movies are
much more real in b/w. To color a noir film, or a Universal monster film, or a Marx Bros. film would make them dull, indeed!
Yeh, okay, I agree to a small point with ya, but I would love to see most B&W Horror movies in color.
I think Psycho is good in B&W, and should stay that way, cause I seen the color version, and it sucked
But, Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein, those I havent seen in color, and would like to.
As well as the ones I posted before at the top.
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 23, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
But, Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein, those I havent seen in color, and would like to.
There were plenty of Frankenstein, Dracula and werewolf movies made in color. Why not watch those?
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 23, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
There were plenty of Frankenstein, Dracula and werewolf movies made in color. Why not watch those?
Cause I wanna see the originals in color
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 23, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
Yeh, okay, I agree to a small point with ya, but I would love to see most B&W Horror movies in color.
I think Psycho is good in B&W, and should stay that way, cause I seen the color version, and it sucked
The color version sucked, as you put it, because it wasnt the original PSYCHO..the only version in color is the terrible remake with Vince Vaughn & Anne Heche from 1998. Remakes are a whole other issue as far as quality goes, color or not.
I was talking about the original
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 23, 2009, 04:06:30 PM
B&W movies in color, why?, color brings B&W to life.
Color movies in B&W, why?, exactly, why?, if color brings B&W to life, then B&W would bring color to dull
color cheapens the movies. black and white monster movies have a certain atmosphere that would be lost in color.
color movies would lose something if in black and white. dont colorize or de-colorize movies. they are good the way they were made
so LORD OF THE RINGS would be better in B&W??
you did say color cheapens the movies, or do you mean only B&W movies that get colorized cheapens the movie?
In which, most B&W Horror movies are pretty much cheapen with the special effects they had to use, so colorizing them wouldn't
really hurt them at all, and would probally make most even more enjoyable to watch.
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 23, 2009, 10:26:14 PM
I was talking about the original
I realize that. And the original is in black & white, there is no color version other than the remake, hence my point! ;D
My own choices:
The Mummy's Tomb(1942)
House Of Frankenstein(1944)
The Mad Ghoul(1943)
Return Of the Vampire(1944)
Beauty & the Beast(1945)
Attack Of the Fifty Foot Woman(1958)
Revenge Of the Creature(1955)
The Quatermass X-periment(1955)
The Brain That Wouldnt Die(1960)
Spider Baby(1964)
Quote from: Memphremagog on September 24, 2009, 07:14:16 AM
My own choices:
The Mummy's Tomb(1942)
House Of Frankenstein(1944)
The Mad Ghoul(1943)
Return Of the Vampire(1944)
Beauty & the Beast(1945)
Attack Of the Fifty Foot Woman(1958)
Revenge Of the Creature(1955)
The Quatermass X-periment(1955)
The Brain That Wouldnt Die(1960)
Spider Baby(1964)
Spider Baby and the Mummy's Tomb, I would strongly disagree on being colorized. Spider Baby alone is amazing in b/w, the lighting in the film is spectacular.......and sets the mood, very atmospheric. Color would just detract from the movie. One of Jack Hills finest movies. ;D
Quote from: Memphremagog on September 24, 2009, 06:53:34 AM
I realize that. And the original is in black & white, there is no color version other than the remake, hence my point! ;D
Wrong C:)
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 24, 2009, 02:28:17 PM
Wrong C:)
Ok, I will take your word for it. Can you tell me where it's available, as I'm curious to see what it looks like.
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 23, 2009, 10:45:54 PM
so LORD OF THE RINGS would be better in B&W??
you did say color cheapens the movies, or do you mean only B&W movies that get colorized cheapens the movie?
so you didnt read the rest of the post?
Quoteolor movies would lose something if in black and white. dont colorize or de-colorize movies. they are good the way they were made
Quote from: LaettnersLegacy on September 24, 2009, 06:03:41 PM
so you didnt read the rest of the post?
Yes I did, did you not read the rest of my quote ;D
Quote from: Memphremagog on September 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
Ok, I will take your word for it. Can you tell me where it's available, as I'm curious to see what it looks like.
Last time I saw it was in Pakistan in '78, I watched it over at Kabovarki's house, so I'll have to give him a call and see if he still has it ;D
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 24, 2009, 06:54:24 PM
Yes I did, did you not read the rest of my quote ;D
the low special effects dont bother me-I love 60's Star Trek. the atmosphere of the B/W would be damaged by coloriziation. but if you want that, go for it.
Quote from: Memphremagog on September 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
Can you tell me where it's available, as I'm curious to see what it looks like.
Probably something like this.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Timebrushed_sample_psycho.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Bates_Motel.jpg/200px-Bates_Motel.jpg)
Quote from: BlackLagoon on September 21, 2009, 03:11:13 PM
I think I have ocd with the whole B&W/color thing...I'm not a big fan of tampering with anything. There is just something about black and white. Its almost like stop motion..its just a kind of magic that cgi, color or anything cant really top..for me anyway.
Did anyone see that one Family Guy where it cuts to Ted Turner addressing an audience? "Here is something I think you will all enjoy...I've colorized the moon."--Guess you have to see it, funny stuff.
The movies were shot with the directors thinking in monochrome - shots were chosen to look good in tones of light and shade. Bringing color into the mix adds an element that defies those choices and compromises those decisions - the decisions that made the movies the masterpieces that they are.
Quote from: elnombre on September 26, 2009, 08:57:42 PM
Bringing color into the mix adds an element that defies those choices and compromises those decisions - the decisions that made the movies the masterpieces that they are.
Absatively! Just because you don't like the way the artist painted the picture, doesn't mean you get to repaint it!
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 26, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Absatively! Just because you don't like the way the artist painted the picture, doesn't mean you get to repaint it!
So what about those guys/gals that buy monster stuff and re-do it?? ;D
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 26, 2009, 10:11:48 PM
So what about those guys/gals that buy monster stuff and re-do it?? ;D
If you mean assembly line stuff, I wouldn't call that "art".
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 26, 2009, 10:17:45 PM
If you mean assembly line stuff, I wouldn't call that "art".
Ahh, but the ones who made them, would call it art.
If you draw a picture of Dracula, and it's not a great masterpiece, but yer still proud of it, it's still yer art, whether someone likes it or not,
right?
Quote from: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 26, 2009, 10:24:39 PM
Ahh, but the ones who made them, would call it art.
I don't think those kids in China painting Frankenstein toys think they're artists.
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 26, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
I don't think those kids in China painting Frankenstein toys think they're artists.
Not all comes from China either :P
You understand what I'm saying tho, right?
Just because you don't like the way the artist painted the picture, doesn't mean you get to repaint it!
I think the best thing Universal can do to "please everyone" is to re-release their six legacy collections on Blu-Ray, with all the extras that were available in the old releases plus what was available on the 75th anniversary editions (which there are four out now) plus with the added colorized versions of ALL of the movies. You would get the option to watch either the original black and white versions that we have been loving for years or you can watch a new colorized version of the movies. The Blu-Ray disc does have enough memory to store all of that since being 70 year old films, none of these would really be high definition.
To be honest, as much as I love them in black and white, and I do believe they belong that way, my curiosoty would be peeked if they were to do this.
Quote from: elnombre on September 26, 2009, 08:57:42 PM
The movies were shot with the directors thinking in monochrome - shots were chosen to look good in tones of light and shade. Bringing color into the mix adds an element that defies those choices and compromises those decisions - the decisions that made the movies the masterpieces that they are.
Agreed. In a color film, if a guy in a navy suit stands in front of a dark brown cabinent, no problem. In a b&w film, he'd disappear. Because the directers had to be aware of what objects/people would coincide, they made great atmosphere which is lost with colorization. The shadows and eerie feeling just aren't there. Let's not forget that most people dream in b&w, therefore b&w film is more eerily surreal and dreamlike. Which makes it scarier. I dream in color, so mabey thats why I like b&w films so much. They're more "unnantural" to me.
Quote from: Wolfman66 on September 20, 2009, 11:25:13 AM
Thought post this here and see what you all think?I like the old B/W monster flicks.But theres some that would like to see turn to color.Heres my wish list of movies.Now whats yours?
none. colorization is blasphemy
many movies would be improved by the removal of color.
Would you put lipstick and rouge on the Mona Lisa? What upsets me just as much as altering James Whale's and John Mescall's vision, is future generations not SEEING that vision. Frequently, B&W films go into limbo once a colourised version appears. Also one must have a true artist to do the job. Someone who knows the film as accurately as possible. I remember when TOPPER was done. Constance Bennett's hair looked like it was dipped in egg yolk!
How would we feel if LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT or FREAKS were dipped in Easter Egg colours?
Please, no.
BTW, you CAN'T just change a colourised feature back by turning off the colour. The integrity of the original is gone.
Elisabeth ededed
THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD
WAS MADE IN COLOR FROM TURNER
IN MID 80s THE ALSO DID KING KONG AS WELL AS MIGHTYJOE AND SON OF KONG
THE POP UP ON EBAY FROM TIME TO TIME
I have seen some color tinted silent pictures that really seem to work (the Cat and the Canary) but the movies that I have seen that have been fully colorized ( House on Haunted Hill, Plan 9, and the original Night of the living Dead) all look horrible. I'm sure some people like that fake crayola colorization but I'll take Black and White over colorization any day.
Think about this. Would Young Frankenstein be half as good in color?
Quote from: Elisabeth on April 21, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
Would you put lipstick and rouge on the Mona Lisa? What upsets me just as much as altering James Whale's and John Mescall's vision, is future generations not SEEING that vision. Frequently, B&W films go into limbo once a colourised version appears. Also one must have a true artist to do the job. Someone who knows the film as accurately as possible. I remember when TOPPER was done. Constance Bennett's hair looked like it was dipped in egg yolk!
How would we feel if LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT or FREAKS were dipped in Easter Egg colours?
Please, no.
BTW, you CAN'T just change a colourised feature back by turning off the colour. The integrity of the original is gone.
Elisabeth ededed
I would love to just get to see London After Midnight!
Just take some LSD and watch the originals. >:D
I'm no purist but all the colorized films I've ever seen wound-up looking like complete garbage.
I would not be opposed to them colorizing their monster legacy collections as long as each disc gives you the choice to either watch the color or black and white versions of each films, the same way Fox did for Night of the Living Dead. With these movies, I don't think some people appreciate the fact that the black and white and grain aspects of the picture are part of what makes these movies great. The Universal classic monsters are an era in film of their very own. They are like your favorite haunted house when you were a kid. Too much remastering and coloring can make them less effective altogether. Just think, do you like your haunted houses better clean or with spider webs?
The only thing I've found "interesting" about colorized films is that they look like those vintage tinted lobby cards (which I collect). On some level that's kinda cool. Generally I'm a purist though. Remaster 'em, re-release 'em on blu-ray, but keep 'em in their original formats. The really old stuff that has been released in high def looks amazing (Keaton's The General, Lang's M, etc.)
I would love to see them all in color just on a new twist but they are at their best in b&w.
My color wishlist contains zero films.
I don't want to see the magnificent artistry of "the Black Cat" (1935) turned color any more than I want to see the perfect color scheme of "Vertigo" turned B+W
I don't want to hear "I wanna hold you hand" reinterpreted as Jazz
I don't want to see Picasso's "Geurnica" in color
I don't want to view Mona Lisa in B+W.
I don't want to see Hamlet performed in Kabuki
Movies, especially great ones, are art. B+W gves us something more, not less. I see in color every day. B+W is the rarity.
There is no need to mess with great movies.
Matt
Quote from: mjaycox on May 06, 2010, 12:34:33 AM
My color wishlist contains zero films.
I don't want to see the magnificent artistry of "the Black Cat" (1935) turned color any more than I want to see the perfect color scheme of "Vertigo" turned B+W
I don't want to hear "I wanna hold you hand" reinterpreted as Jazz
I don't want to see Picasso's "Geurnica" in color
I don't want to view Mona Lisa in B+W.
I don't want to see Hamlet performed in Kabuki
Movies, especially great ones, are art. B+W gves us something more, not less. I see in color every day. B+W is the rarity.
There is no need to mess with great movies.
Matt
YES!
AMEN!!!
"E" ededed thrhrt ededed thrhrt ededed thrhrt
I have to disagree with that and for good reason. Of course we are in the age of high definition with out Blu-Rays and LCD TVs with HDMI cables and Playstation 3s. I think that Universal should make a huge box set called "Universal Classic Monsters Blu-Ray." What that box set would ultimately contain is all six of the Legacy Collections on Blu-Rays instead of DVDs, and the 1931 Dracula being the version from the 75th Anniversary edition, not the Legacy Collection version. Each film should be available to watch in either Remastered Glorious Black and White or Lavish Color. I think what this would ultimately do is make these movies more accessable to a wider audience. Now, the young kid with the Playstation 3 who has never even herd of a black and white movie can enjoy these movies and then go back and watch them in black and white to understand how it was done back then. I, for one, would buy it in a heart beat, because I think it would be a lot of fun. It would be watching all of them for the first time all over again.
Quote from: Rich on May 06, 2010, 07:14:37 PM
I have to disagree with that and for good reason. Of course we are in the age of high definition with out Blu-Rays and LCD TVs with HDMI cables and Playstation 3s. I think that Universal should make a huge box set called "Universal Classic Monsters Blu-Ray." What that box set would ultimately contain is all six of the Legacy Collections on Blu-Rays instead of DVDs, and the 1931 Dracula being the version from the 75th Anniversary edition, not the Legacy Collection version. Each film should be available to watch in either Remastered Glorious Black and White or Lavish Color. I think what this would ultimately do is make these movies more accessable to a wider audience. Now, the young kid with the Playstation 3 who has never even herd of a black and white movie can enjoy these movies and then go back and watch them in black and white to understand how it was done back then. I, for one, would buy it in a heart beat, because I think it would be a lot of fun. It would be watching all of them for the first time all over again.
A piece of art must live or die by what it is-- not what it is not. I would rather these movies be forgotten or fade into obscurity like the novels of Booth Tarkington than require bastardization for their longevity.
They will never fade away into obscurity. The Universal monsters are the foundation of not only horror, but also science fiction and phantasy movies. There are so many movies that would not exist without their influence.
and I betcha, if you ask these 90's tech savy kids who have never seen a b/w movie to do a impression of Dracula, or Mummy...they would do Lugusi's accent. drag a foot, clutch one arm to the chest and other out stretched. draw Frankenstien they would draw a flat top, with neck bolts.
they are legend. they will never die. making them color will not be an improvement and is not needed.
whats the difference in the Legacy Dracula and the 75 anny Dracula?
Quotewhats the difference in the Legacy Dracula and the 75 anny Dracula?
The picture quality of the print is like compairing a VHS to a Blu-Ray. The Legacy version being the VHS and the 75th being the Blu-Ray. Also, it is censured at the end. When you hear Van Helsing hammer the steak into Dracula's heart at the end of the movie, the Legacy version is censored. You only hear one hammer and one soft death moan. In the 75th version you hear load hammer hits and a lot of load moans of death by Dracula.
While it might be nice to see test make up footage in colour, I feel that to colour these B+W classisc would be a crime, the very fact that they are in B+W adds to the atmosphere of the films.
Yes I have seen the coloured version of NOTLD and it blows big time, leave them well alone.
Quote from: Rich on May 07, 2010, 10:56:53 AM
They will never fade away into obscurity. The Universal monsters are the foundation of not only horror, but also science fiction and phantasy movies. There are so many movies that would not exist without their influence.
I agree with ya 100% on that one! :)
For answering the question: "none" on my wish list. I simply just can't. I'm definitely not in favour of the process. I truly think that the historical value of a b&w film is too important for any metamorphosis whatsoever. It'll always be a forbidden zone for me. It's a too much radical change and surely annoying to some point. We are witnessing a totally new product whenever a film is colorized. The atmosphere (so the movie itself) take a very different turn and dimension.
For myself I wouldn't care to see any b/w films colorized because I grew up with them in b/w, in an age when you still had b/w tv sets. Then again there are many color horror films I saw on my 12" b/w tv that was in my bedroom that didn't loose anything once I saw them in color. Black and white movies weren't an artistic choice...at least not until color film was invented and then yes a director had the choice, some choosing b/w for artistic purposes (Psycho) some for cost cutting efforts (The Munsters, Ed Wood flicks)! I'm not sure that colorizing a movie made prior to color film is blasphemy in anyway since it wasn't a choice but rather a no other choice.
I think it would be interesting to colorize a film (let's just say a Universal monster flick for arguments sake... ;)) let a group or several different age groups of kids see both versions just to see what their reactions are. My kids, and many of our kids/grandkids here, have already been exposed to b/w films but there are so many that have not. If an old b/w film can be given a wider/newer audience thru colorizing then I say go for it, even though I know some here have already disagreed with that.
Also I'm not sure but I think the colorization process has improved since the attempt at NOTLD was done. I know the 3 Stooges colorization is a later attempt which the dvd lets you watch either, or.
The Three Stooges - Hoi Polloi in Colour Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6km0nWNevg#)
As for colorization looking like crayola; I think the colorization process actually makes the film look like a colorized film of the 30's-40's. Technicolor didn't bring out the most lifelike colors....
None.
BTW you can get White Zombie colorized on VHS (very rare though) Also you can get Bela Lugosi in Black Dragons colorized on VHS
NONE...they just don't look natural.
Quote from: Mord on August 30, 2010, 03:18:40 PM
NONE...they just don't look natural.
I agree. Just love the B/W Noir settings
Quote from: Opera Ghost on August 30, 2010, 03:45:52 PM
I agree. Just love the B/W Noir settings
Absolutely.......even if they COULD colorize the old B&W horror and noir so that it was indistinguishable from actual color film, I would prefer the B&W. It's an art form unto itself.
In general, I would agree with those who say leave the B&W films alone. Certainly I would leave the Uni Monsters alone. I just love the mood in those films.
However -you knew that was coming, right? - I have seen two recently colorized films that I thought looked pretty good: 20 Million Miles to Earth and Earth Vs. the Flying Saucers. Both were painstakingly colorized after consulting with Ray Harryhausen (the DVDs actually show these meetings). I thought both of these looked very natural and the colorization did not detract from the films.
Quote from: Moonshadow on September 02, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
In general, I would agree with those who say leave the B&W films alone. Certainly I would leave the Uni Monsters alone. I just love the mood in those films.
However -you knew that was coming, right? - I have seen two recently colorized films that I thought looked pretty good: 20 Million Miles to Earth and Earth Vs. the Flying Saucers. Both were painstakingly colorized after consulting with Ray Harryhausen (the DVDs actually show these meetings). I thought both of these looked very natural and the colorization did not detract from the films.
I wouldn't object to these because the mood and atmosphere created by B&W craftsmen, which was so essential to old noir and horror, weren't really a part of these flicks. I'd be interested in seeing some cool 50s Atomic Monster and alien movies colorized myself. As you said, it depends on the film.
Quote from: Scatter on September 02, 2010, 06:01:16 PM
I wouldn't object to these because the mood and atmosphere created by B&W craftsmen, which was so essential to old noir and horror, weren't really a part of these flicks. I'd be interested in seeing some cool 50s Atomic Monster and alien movies colorized myself. As you said, it depends on the film.
Yup, I'd like to see some more quality colorization efforts on 50s sci fi myself. I should also mention, those Harryhausen dvds include both the original B&W and color versions.
Quote from: Moonshadow on September 02, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
Yup, I'd like to see some more quality colorization efforts on 50s sci fi myself. I should also mention, those Harryhausen dvds include both the original B&W and color versions.
I saw some colorized 50s movies at Dollar Tree or Big Lots or something and decided against getting them. I know one of the movies was "Killer Shrews", which just didn't strike me as a movie that cried out for colorizing.......or repeated viewing for that matter.
"THEM" would be cool to see.
Don't know how much colorization will continue, as many of those companies have moved into 2D to 3D Dimensionalization
I'd have to go with none. I love my B&W movies.
Just watched the Legend Films colorizations of The Killer Shrews, Missile To The Moon and The Little Shop of Horrors. All look great in color :laugh:, but as for the opening credits to TLSOH the screen is like YELLOW!!!! :o
The Lugosi White Zombie color vhs looked pretty good, and it came out years ago. I am sure if the right amount of money were spent iany project they colorized would look fine.
Hmmm...none of the Gothic horror movies. The black and white work perfectly for those. Some of the older sci fi movies, I could see being colorized...I love the Harryhausen color versions and there's a Japanese sci fi show called Ultra Q (a prequel sort of series to Ultraman) that's being released in Japan in a few months and has been colorized by the same studio that did the Harryhausen colorizations and it looks amazing. I NEED to see The Creature trilogy colorized....just need to...Kong would kinda be neat to see in a revised color version but I doubt I'll ever wash the horrible vision of the old color version on vhs that I had as a kid. The Creature trilogy is the one I'd like to see the most...maybe THEM! or The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms...but I'm content with those staying B/W
Quote from: Scatter on September 02, 2010, 06:05:43 PM
I saw some colorized 50s movies at Dollar Tree or Big Lots or something and decided against getting them. I know one of the movies was "Killer Shrews", which just didn't strike me as a movie that cried out for colorizing.......or repeated viewing for that matter.
"THEM" would be cool to see.
I got the colorized "Killer Shrews" plus "The Giant Gila Monster" set at Big Lots. The reason I got them was the set ALSO contained the original Black & White versions.
Of course the movies are pretty awful, but the DVD quality was really pretty good.
Nope.. B/W for me, Thats how I grew up, Thats how I Remember Them. Color would just add a " newness" to Them.
Completely apart from the Art Ethics debate, which is very personal, the TECHINIQUE of colorization is vastly different than it used to be.
The HOLIDAY INN from a few Christmases ago is beautiful - the best example I've ever seen of the "if you didn't know, you'd think it was shot in color" that I've ever seen.
-Craig