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We Bid You Welcome! => Announcements => Topic started by: fmofmpls on June 29, 2009, 07:20:18 AM

Title: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on June 29, 2009, 07:20:18 AM
This forum now has a new feature available to its members. It's called the "Ignore User" option. I'm sure some members will enjoy using it; especially members who just can't seem to get along with other members of this forum.

The option to ignore somebody may be found underneath the person's avatar of whom you wish to ignore. Look for the word "Ignore". You may also find "Ignore User" settings / options inside your profile control panel.

Please take note that this option will not enable anybody here to continue spewing venom about another member just because they're being ignored. That behavior will still result in immediate termination.

BTW, forum admins and mods cannot be ignored. The ignore option will not work should you wish to ignore the strong arm of the law. Sorry.  ;)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: CreepysFan on June 30, 2009, 12:16:38 AM
 Once again Terry, you look after the peace of the UMA Troops.  Sad that such an option should become necessary.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Scatter on June 30, 2009, 10:32:48 AM
I haven't noticed any rancor in the ranks.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Wich2 on June 30, 2009, 10:36:39 AM
"Sad that such an option should become necessary."

Hear, hear, CF.

I recall when the Mego Museum first installed the function; it would be funny, if not so sad, that supposed "adults" can't communicate at a level that would keep such a "nuclear option" unnecessary...

-Craig
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Scatter on June 30, 2009, 11:12:45 AM
AMEN Craig!! The UMA for me is a place of fun and escape. Why anyone would want to turn it into a literal battleground is beyond me.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Jscareshock on June 30, 2009, 12:08:46 PM
Awesome.  Thank you for policing our ranks.  It always amazes me how so many of us forget our origns.  We all came from basically the same lace--a world where we loved monsters but often couldn't speak about it to our friends for fear or ridicule.  Now we have a place to congregate and there are still those who wish to torment and ridicule.  Wow.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Nicole on July 04, 2009, 12:49:59 PM
All I can see is a little question mark box in the area where the ignore button is supposed to be. Is that normal?
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on July 04, 2009, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: Nicole on July 04, 2009, 12:49:59 PM
All I can see is a little question mark box in the area where the ignore button is supposed to be. Is that normal?

Hmmmm. Most likely not Nicole. The ignore feature with this version of the software is a plug-in which sometimes results in strange behavior for some folks. The next version of this forum's software will be a major upgrade of which the "ignore user" option will be standard operating equipment. When that upgrade takes place (hopefully late 2009), the ignore user option shouldn't act strange any longer. Our members will continue to act strange, but not the "ignore user" option.  ;)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Cinemacabre on July 05, 2009, 08:43:35 AM
Will I be able to Ignore myself, just in case I get to be too much of a pain for my own tastes? I mean, at times, I can be the most annoying person I've ever met?  ;D
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Anton Phibes on July 12, 2009, 05:41:26 AM
I don't like this function.  If an individual is going to be labeled as being ignored in their profile, then the ignorers should have to own up if they are ignoring people in their profile. If there are relational conflicts, moderators should judge any argumentatives, and issue disciplines or ban accordingly.  I haven't had any arguments with anyone on this site, yet I am listed in my profile as having "ignored" status. So, therefore, this function created to stop in-house fighting (which as I stated should be up to mods to judge on), can now be hit without prejudice. The person being ignored bears the scarlet letter. Nice.

Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on July 12, 2009, 12:04:45 PM
Your point is well taken Anton. I'm not 100% sold on this feature myself. We were just trying it out and attempting to make some options available to folks who can't get along. We will continue to evaluate this option.

I am inviting members to voice their opinions on whether this tool is a benefit, or a detriment to the harmony of this forum. Speak now or forever ignore me.  ;D
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: toysoldierman2001 on July 12, 2009, 02:31:07 PM
I agree with anton.This can cause a lot of unnessary hard feelings.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: mike c on July 12, 2009, 04:06:53 PM
Quote from: toysoldierman2001 on July 12, 2009, 02:31:07 PM
I agree with anton.This can cause a lot of unnessary hard feelings.

It can if it's not being implemented correctly, and I think that's the case here. It's not a new idea, I've seen it work and work well on a lot of boards, especially when no one knows if they're being ignored (let alone by whom or how many). If that can be done here, I have little problem with it. If it can't be done that way, I say scrap it until it can be implemented correctly.

Mike C.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on August 09, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
Well everybody knows my opinion on the ignore button, due to my rantings of being ignored ;D
I'm on the same page as Anton.
No matter how much I disagree with someone or even come to the point that I dislike them, I wont ignore them.
Doc
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Elizabeth on August 10, 2009, 12:23:45 AM
I don't think the ignore feature in and of itself is a bad idea... many boards have them.  It's especially handy if a forum has a poster who tends towards edgier stuff, and people read at work, and don't want a photo or something popping up on a monitor that might be problematic.

I've never found it helpful, because it leaves gaps in a thread conversation for me... but it should be there for those who might want to use it.

However, I think Mike has raised a VERY good point.  I don't think I've ever been able to see if I was being ignored, or if someone else was ignored.  (I've seen folks post they were going to ignore someone, but that was it.)

Moderators should be able to see that information, but having all of us being able to see that information about someone else feels a bit like peeking in someone's personal file.

When it's a useful tool, it's a good thing, but it's got a double edge right now.

(Heck, it could potentially even go south, with someone who wants to make problems coming on board to see if they could collect the highest numbers of ignores, like people striving for post counts.)

If the function could be changed, to keep that information hidden, that would put this on an even footing with how it is used in other message board communities.

I agree with Mike.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: raycastile on August 10, 2009, 12:29:02 AM
No one should be able to see whether another member is being ignored.  I asked Terry about this several weeks ago.  He said members can see only whether they personally are being ignored, not whether other members are being ignored.  That is the way it is supposed to work.  If it is not working that way, and someone here can see that another member is being ignored, please alert us.  That means the system is not working properly.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Elizabeth on August 10, 2009, 12:32:38 AM
We can see who is being ignored.  We've always been able to.  When I click on Dr. Phibes or Dr. G's profiles, I can see how many they are talking about.  It's always been like that.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Mike Scott on August 10, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
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Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Elizabeth on August 10, 2009, 12:35:32 AM
No Mike... we can see.  When we pull up someone's profile, we can see what someone else has.

It's always been like this, since the function was installed.


EDITED: Mike or another mod, feel free to delete this post since it repeats information.

Raymond, since I have your email handy, I just forwarded you a copy of what I can see in someone else's profile.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on August 10, 2009, 12:40:44 AM
Yep, I've seen others who are ignored, when I look at their profile
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: raycastile on August 10, 2009, 01:00:50 AM
OK, I've been informed by Elizabeth and Dr. Geist that anyone can look at a member's profile and see how many people are ignoring them, though no IDs are visible.  That was not the way I understood this system operated.  I'm not sure if Terry realizes this, since this doesn't jibe with what he and I discussed several weeks ago.  The mods will talk about this.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: mike c on August 10, 2009, 01:28:40 AM
Quote from: raycastile on August 10, 2009, 01:00:50 AM
OK, I've been informed by Elizabeth and Dr. Geist that anyone can look at a member's profile and see how many people are ignoring them, though no IDs are visible.  That was not the way I understood this system operated.  I'm not sure if Terry realizes this, since this doesn't jibe with what he and I discussed several weeks ago.  The mods will talk about this.

Thanks Ray, and all the mods. I am not against an ignore feature (which I've said before, sorry to beat a dead horse) but this one needs some work. I think ideally, members shouldn't be able to see if they're being ignored, and no one else should be able to see if another member's being ignored. Members should only be able to see that THEY are ignoring someone. If that can be accomplished, great. If it can't I'm sure you and the other moderators and Terry will find an equitable and fair resolution, no matter if it means scrapping the whole feature or whatever is best.

Mike C.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Nicole on August 10, 2009, 04:46:30 AM
Quote from: mike c on August 10, 2009, 01:28:40 AM
I think ideally, members shouldn't be able to see if they're being ignored, and no one else should be able to see if another member's being ignored. Members should only be able to see that THEY are ignoring someone. If it can't I'm sure you and the other moderators and Terry will find an equitable and fair resolution, no matter if it means scrapping the whole feature or whatever is best.

Mike C.


QFT. Well said.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Nicole on August 10, 2009, 06:26:20 AM
Quick question, Raymond: If you get ignored by a member and that member later gets banned from the forum, does the ignore still stay? And if so, is there any way to remove it? Or is the recipient stuck being perma-ignored by a nonexistant member?
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on August 10, 2009, 07:25:54 AM
I am looking into correcting this problem. The ignore information should be kept private to everyone; even unto the member who is being ignored. If this can't be resolved, I will uninstall this feature altogether. What was suppose to assist and appease members only seems to have upset most members. Our apologies. We are working on fixing this.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Wich2 on August 10, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
Even better-

We could all be weally BIG boys & girls, & not act jerky so that others want to ignore us!!!

Neato!
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Scatter on August 10, 2009, 11:46:35 AM
Or conversely, we could keep in perspective what being "Ignored" by someone on a forum actually means in the larger scheme of life.

Personally, I would like to publicly announce that anyone who gets an irrepressible desire to put me on "Ignore" is not only free to do so, but I actually encourage you to do so, since I would never desire to diminish anyone's enjoyment of this wonderful forum .

Additionally, you're free to email or PM me with the details of who you are, why you felt compelled to ignore me, and what character flaws you feel are so pronounced within my demeanor that my ongoing presence within these threads has become unbearable to you. Or you could simply say nothing at all.

Afterwards, being deeply aware that I am far from perfect and not everyone's cup of tea (and therefore being neither surprised nor offended at your action), I will take whatever criticism I feel is valid and try to learn from it. I will then chuck the rest, and go merrily on my way.


Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Mike Scott on August 10, 2009, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: Scatter on August 10, 2009, 11:46:35 AM
I will then chuck the rest, and go merrily on my way.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_40zQ4e6dHbY/Rx7FjMoHa2I/AAAAAAAABfI/b-IvvZ6DuDk/s320/snoopy_happy_dance%5B1%5D.jpg)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Scatter on August 10, 2009, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 10, 2009, 12:20:01 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_40zQ4e6dHbY/Rx7FjMoHa2I/AAAAAAAABfI/b-IvvZ6DuDk/s320/snoopy_happy_dance%5B1%5D.jpg)

You're a perceptive individual Mike...........Snoopy is my role model.

(http://www.mes.mariposa.k12.ca.us/Activities/Halloween%20Parade/snoopy_halloween.jpg)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Nicole on August 10, 2009, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: Wich2 on August 10, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
Even better-

We could all be weally BIG boys & girls, & not act jerky so that others want to ignore us!!!

Neato!

This is exactly what I dislike about this feature. Those who have ignores visible are now subject to being labeled as "jerks" by the rest of the community. But we already know that some users randomly received ignores when the mods were testing the feature, and others with no known conflicts have also found themselves being ignored. And what about those who have received "retaliatory ignores" for putting another on ignore? Does that make any of these people bad people? Hardly. A person's ignores (or lack thereof) do not necessarily say anything about their character or their likeability. It just means that someone, at some point, clicked a button under someone else's name.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on August 10, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
Quote from: Nicole on August 10, 2009, 05:28:05 PM
This is exactly what I dislike about this feature. Those who have ignores visible are now subject to being labeled as "jerks" by the rest of the community. But we already know that some users randomly received ignores when the mods were testing the feature, and others with no known conflicts have also found themselves being ignored. And what about those who have received "retaliatory ignores" for putting another on ignore? Does that make any of these people bad people? Hardly. A person's ignores (or lack thereof) do not necessarily say anything about their character or their likeability. It just means that someone, at some point, clicked a button under someone else's name.


Well said, my thoughts to the point.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on August 10, 2009, 06:26:31 PM
Points well sated. As I said earlier today, the feature as it stands right now is unacceptable. If it can't be modified to meet our concerns, it will be removed. Give me a day or two to sort it out. I will let everyone know what the end result will be.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on August 11, 2009, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth on August 10, 2009, 12:32:38 AM
We can see who is being ignored.  We've always been able to.  When I click on Dr. Phibes or Dr. G's profiles, I can see how many they are talking about.  It's always been like that.

This hairball has now been corrected. Members will no longer be able to see how many members are ignoring them and/or others. It is now hidden information. As it should be too.

Thanks for your patience and understanding as we addressed this issue.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: mike c on August 11, 2009, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: fmofmpls on August 11, 2009, 09:18:37 PM
This hairball has now been corrected. Members will no longer be able to see how many members are ignoring them and/or others. It is now hidden information. As it should be too.

Thanks for your patience and understanding as we addressed this issue.


<applause!> Thank you very much General and Mods!


Mike C.
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Nicole on August 12, 2009, 03:35:43 AM
Many thanks, Mon Géneralé!
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Elizabeth on August 12, 2009, 09:20:40 AM
Thank you for attending to that!
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on August 12, 2009, 09:39:59 AM
Thanks guys 8)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: Anton Phibes on August 12, 2009, 05:43:42 PM
My ignored status of 1 member kept disappearing and reappearing anyway.  Anyone who wants to ignore me can now feel free to, as i wont have to know you're doing it, and it won't be broadcast to the entire world. ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on August 12, 2009, 07:16:32 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on August 12, 2009, 05:43:42 PM
My ignored status of 1 member kept disappearing and reappearing anyway. 

Nothing worse than a member who waffles on ignoring someone else. You either are going to ignore, or not ignore at all. Selective ignoring is so high maintenance.  :D
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: fmofmpls on August 12, 2009, 07:19:53 PM
The more you ignore me - Morrissey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFZS5pXiqVY#lq-lq2)
Title: Re: Ignore User Option
Post by: mike c on August 13, 2009, 01:39:52 AM
Hahaha! Well played!

ANY Smiths/Morrisey reference is awesome!

Mike C.