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Title: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: GeekDragon on March 29, 2009, 06:26:08 PM
I saw this one as a kid and remembered alittle about it.  I knew it was a bad movie, even back then.  Been thinking about buying it.  Last week, my sister and I watched it.  It's worse then i remember.  I'm konda glad I didn't pay $20.00 for it.  Even Lon Chaney Jr. couldn't help this movie.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Crazy1van on March 29, 2009, 06:38:58 PM
Wait; Lon Chaney Jr was in it?  This must be different from the two movies I know of called Dracula vs Frankenstein!
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: raycastile on March 29, 2009, 06:55:40 PM
I like this movie.  Yes, it's poorly made, but I like it.  I think nostalgia has a lot to do with it, but oh well.

This movie definitely has Lon Chaney Jr.  I think there is a Paul Naschy film with the same title.  Is it an alternate title for Assignment Terror?  I don't know.   I haven't seen Assignment Terror since I was a kid.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: HARRY HAMMOCK on March 29, 2009, 07:01:39 PM
Also Forry Ackerman  was in it  as well.I saw it at the picture show when I was a kid and bought it on vhs,but have yet to get it on dvd.It's my only weakness.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: BaronLatos35 on March 29, 2009, 07:32:56 PM
I didn't like Dracula vs Frankenstein as well and I am a big fan of 70's Euro horror. Dracula's echoing voice didn't make for a good vampire IMO.

For a much better 70's Euro Horror complete with a monster mash of Drac, Frank, and the Wolfman Jess Franco's "Dracula, Prisoner of Frankenstein" wins hands down over this movie.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: raycastile on March 29, 2009, 07:46:15 PM
The Dracula vs. Frankenstein we're talking about isn't Euro Horror.  It's an American production from Sam Sherman and Al Adamson.  I haven't seen the Franco film, but it sounds interesting.

When someone brings up this film, I have to show off my movie posters:
(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/posters/draculavsfrankenstein.jpg)(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/posters/draculavsfrankensteinB.jpg)

Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: BaronLatos35 on March 29, 2009, 07:58:28 PM
Quote from: raycastile on March 29, 2009, 07:46:15 PM
The Dracula vs. Frankenstein we're talking about isn't Euro Horror.  It's an American production from Sam Sherman and Al Adamson.  I haven't seen the Franco film, but it sounds interesting.

When someone brings up this film, I have to show off my movie posters:
(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/posters/draculavsfrankenstein.jpg)(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/posters/draculavsfrankensteinB.jpg)



You are correct,

check out the Franco film and those are some cool posters!
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Monster Bob on March 29, 2009, 08:26:53 PM


The best thing about this movie is the posters! Actually, it was a stinker, but a very entertaining stinker. It was sad to see J. Carrol Naish in such bad shape, though.

I was thinking, Ray, besides the Coffin Joe gig, with your beard and dark hair, you could play Dracula in a remake of this flick! And I would gladly volunteer to play the drunken Lon Chaney Jr. part.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Crazy1van on March 29, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
Quote from: raycastile on March 29, 2009, 07:46:15 PM
When someone brings up this film, I have to show off my movie posters:
(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/posters/draculavsfrankenstein.jpg)
Is this movie rated GP??
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: neonnoodle on March 30, 2009, 01:52:47 AM
Yeah, these three titles are often confused, and it's not surprising.  I do like the Al Adamson film a lot; I have seen it like a million times, and I get a lot of entertainment out of it.

The Paul Naschy film is fun too; that one actually scared me when I saw it on TV as a kid.  I haven't seen the third film, the Franco film, but I imagine that's fun, too.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: BaronLatos35 on March 30, 2009, 08:47:53 AM
Quote from: neonnoodle on March 30, 2009, 01:52:47 AM
Yeah, these three titles are often confused, and it's not surprising.  I do like the Al Adamson film a lot; I have seen it like a million times, and I get a lot of entertainment out of it.

The Paul Naschy film is fun too; that one actually scared me when I saw it on TV as a kid.  I haven't seen the third film, the Franco film, but I imagine that's fun, too.

I have never seen the Naschy film, what is the title? I liked some of his other films (Werewolf vs the Vampire Woman, Count Dracula's Great Love), so this one sounds like my kind of guilty pleasure! Also, I thought "Assignment Terror" was an alternate title for "Dracula vs Frankenstein"? Are they 2 different movies?

The one I have seen has Dracula talking in some kind of echoing voice with a ring that shoots rays  and Frankenstein's face looked like a mashed mess! Don't really remember the plot, but Franco's film lacked one as well. Both films are a homage to the Universal monster mashes of the 40's, although I enjoyed Franco's take on it more.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: MDG on March 30, 2009, 09:05:45 AM
The movie goes downhill after the musical number (yes, this is really from Dracula Vs. Frankenstein).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUN2I8kHJlI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUN2I8kHJlI)

Didn't Gray Morrow do one or both of those posters?
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: CreepysFan on March 30, 2009, 10:13:34 AM
 I actualy like this movie, so I have the DVD already.  Granted it's a cheezy Z- rated movie, with a Frankenstein monster someone else posted here somewhere as having an "oatmeal" face, but I find this movie to be fun entertainment.  Not one I can watch more than once a year, but it usually ends up in my month long Halloween watch list.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Creature Features on March 30, 2009, 12:17:47 PM
Saw this once as a kid after being WEANED on the original Lugosi and Karloff films...

Didnt really impress me, and to be honest; i doubt i'll ever see it again. No offense to fans of it...it just didnt really grab me.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: MDG on March 30, 2009, 01:31:25 PM
Y'know, I always felt that if the original Aurora models captured the spirit of the classic monster movies, the Monster Scenes were channeling this movie (as well as Naschy and a lot of the european imports from the late 60s).
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: neonnoodle on March 30, 2009, 10:11:18 PM
Yes, the echoey voice Dracula and the mush-faced Monster are in the Al Adamson/Sam Sherman "Dracula vs Frankenstein."

The Naschy film "Dracula vs Frankenstein" is also known as "Assignment: Terror," that's the title it had when I saw it on TV in the 70's.

If you are looking to buy either film, they are both available through Amazon and other outlets but because they have the same title, are sometimes confused by the sellers.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: BaronLatos35 on March 31, 2009, 08:46:31 AM
Thanks for clearing that up. Come to think of it , I have seen Assignment Terror a long time ago, don't really remember that one very well though, may have to do another viewing.

Anyway, we all have our guilty pleasures in addition to the classics.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: GeekDragon on March 31, 2009, 09:35:06 PM
I didn't remember at all the echo voice Drac had.  Even though I said I wouldn't get it, I probably will eventually.  It has Lon Chaney jr. in it!  Too bad he didn't have any lines.  Not that it would've made the movie any better.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Wolf Man on March 31, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
Baron Latos, apparently there are "two" versions of the Naschy movie.  Assignment Terror and Dracula VS Frankenstein.  They are essentially the same film but there is an overall run time difference.  The one called Dracula VS Frankenstein runs a few minutes longer for some reason than Assignment Terror. 

WARNING: When purchasing the Nascy Dracula VS Frankenstein from Amazon do NOT buy it from their secondary vender Cheesy Flicks. 

When I did I got the Naish/Chaney JR. Dracula VS Frankenstein.  I thought I might have made a mistake when ordering so I ordered it again.  I figured I would keep the Naish/Chaney Jr. version anyway.  Well, you guessed it.  I did not make a mistake when ordering but Cheesy Flicks sure did and sent me the same movie again. 

I wrote both Amazon and Cheesy Flicks and even sent them the entire add from Amazon clearly stating that Naschy and Michael Rennie was in it.  I got a really smart assed answer from Cheesy Flicks.  I was very pissed by their rude comment and wrote another very condescending letter with lots of all capitals and again showing all the DVD covers and film descriptions shown in Amazons adds.  I was sure to point out how stupid they were and that with our economy in such bad shape it is no wonder that businesses fail with attitudes like theirs and no sign of customer satisfaction.  I guess it is now an antiquated and outmoded idea that the "customer is always right". 

When I had my store and a customer ordered a product once, I actually forgot to place the order which caused a delay in getting the customer's product.  The customer did not even complain and was not upset by the delay but I was upset with myself so I gave the customer two free products when his order came in.  You can imagine how shocked he was that there was still integrity in business.   

In the end I purchased the Naschy Dracula VS Frankenstein from one of the other sub vendors and got the right film the first time with no hassles. 

Just be very careful when you order these as stay as far away from Cheesy Flicks as you can. 
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: BaronLatos35 on April 01, 2009, 08:51:42 AM
Thanks for the info Wolf Man, and I will stay away from Cheesy Flicks, too bad you had all that junk to go through for your movie.

Now I think I'm clear, I have seen all of these movies, Assignment Terror was the Euro Horror I was thinking, and Dracula vs Frankenstein I have seen as well (the American release title) as well as the "other" Dracula vs Frankenstein which is the one we are talking about.  I must have been thinking about all of them for some reason. I forgot about Assignment Terror until I read the IMBd listing, then I remembered the movie. You are right Wolf Man, it is a matter of run time and distribution between "those" two.

Anyway, I still vote for the Franco film! LOL
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: CreepysFan on April 02, 2009, 12:01:27 AM
 Cheesy Flicks is an appropriate name, if ran by such rude Rats.  Luckily I never ran into this problem when I ordered my Chaney Jr. Frankenstein vs Dracula some years back (can't remember who from).  Hope you finally received the right movie Wolf Man.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Wolf Man on April 02, 2009, 08:51:43 AM
Well, I ended up with two copies of the Chaney Jr film and since I was in Iraq and the whole mailing process was tricky I decided not to send them back.  I kind of hoped they would just send me the right one at no charge to make up for the mistake.  I did not ask them to do that but just "hoped" they would have an interest in customer satisfaction.  The Naschy film was only like 2 dollars and with shipping like five.  For five bucks they could have kept a customer happy.  I ended up ordereing four different Nascy movies while over there.  Gave me something fun to watch.  Curse of the Devil was one of the best he ever made.  I got the unrated Euro version, some gratuitous nudity.  The body count for that one was up like 11 or 12. 
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: BigShadow on April 03, 2024, 06:42:25 PM
Finally got around to watching this flick on DVD with the double feature Brain of Blood (1971). DvF, I thought, was a fun drive-in movie that was cheesy and spooky. I loved seeing Lon Chaney Jr. anytime he was on screen. Yeah, the movie has its faults, and many of them, but if you turn your brain off and just relax, you'll have a good time.  At least I did!
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Memphremagog on April 04, 2024, 04:51:40 AM
This is my favorite "Bad" movie of all time! It's enjoyable for just for it's bizarre characters and special effects..ASSIGNMENT TERROR(as the Naschy version is really called) is also a grand time in its' own right..where else can you see a werewolf battle a mummy? :)

The Franco film, Dracula, Prisoner of Frankenstein, is a total mess! Characters come and go with no explanation and the script is barely coherent most of the time..really not worth the time in my view.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: GeekDragon on June 20, 2024, 04:03:06 PM
Yeah, it's not very good, but I did eventually get it on DVD and watched it again.  It's a shame this was Chaney's last movie and he didn't have any lines. 
Since my original post returned from the grave all these years later, I kinda want to watch it again.  Was there a Blu Ray of this? 
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Memphremagog on June 20, 2024, 07:17:05 PM
Quote from: GeekDragon on June 20, 2024, 04:03:06 PMYeah, it's not very good, but I did eventually get it on DVD and watched it again.  It's a shame this was Chaney's last movie and he didn't have any lines. 
Since my original post returned from the grave all these years later, I kinda want to watch it again.  Was there a Blu Ray of this? 

There are several blu ray releases of this, actually.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Paul L on June 21, 2024, 12:54:16 AM
Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I have a lot of affection for this thing. I was the perfect, impressionable age back then (FM covered it, FJA's in it, so you know it's awesome, right?). I've always been ambivalent about Lon, Jr.'s presence though: He's very hard to watch, yet it was good to see him working. Regardless, love it or hate it, DvF is anything but boring.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Rex fury on June 22, 2024, 10:19:59 AM


Didn't Gray Morrow do one or both of those posters?
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Yes, I think he did art for them.
RF
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: AndyFish on June 27, 2024, 02:19:07 PM
This one scared the bejesus out of me when I was a kid--and my older sister had a Halloween Party and one of her friends showed up as this version of the Monster-- his entire head made of wax-- I lost my mind and could not be calmed down.
As an adult-- it's one of my favorite bad movies.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Barlow on October 15, 2024, 12:01:37 AM
Not the highest quality horror movie of all time, but I loved it! I was a kid when I first saw it and I loved how Dracula's ring shot out fire. It's on my list of nostalgic favorites. 
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: AndyFish on October 15, 2025, 04:50:37 PM
One of the worst movies of all time-- a personal favorite.
Best line, Dracula in his ominous voice as a passenger in a car is going on about his plans of world domination, then interrupts and says "Turn left here".

Amazingly bad.   Chaney Jr and J Carrol Naish (Dr Daka in Batman '43 and Charlie Chan on TV) plus a Forrey Ackerman cameo.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: horrorhunter on October 15, 2025, 07:16:30 PM
Two words- Al Adamson.

That about covers it.  :D
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Memphremagog on October 17, 2025, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: horrorhunter on October 15, 2025, 07:16:30 PMTwo words- Al Adamson.

That about covers it.  :D

It's the movie he'll always be best remembered for, just like Ed Wood has Plan 9 From Outer Space. :D
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Memphremagog on October 17, 2025, 06:02:39 PM
Some Dracula vs Frankenstein pics:

(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Dracula-vs.-Frankenstein-1971-Still.jpg?resize=768%2C432)

John Bloom, Sam Sherman, Roger Engel and Al Adamson behind the scenes..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJtBj_GXsAEacAY.jpg)

Engel and Shelley Weiss(standing in for Bloom, who couldnt make it to the location) outside the New York church from the film's climax.

(https://a.ltrbxd.com/resized/alternative-backdrop/4/9/8/4/9/tmdb/gE3wKpwriOJh7xRqDUdfcTDRX4w-1200-1200-675-675-crop-000000.jpg?v=6efb41c293)

John Bloom and Regina Carroll in the film's most famous publicity pic

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Jy7AJp7rL._UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)

Great artwork from the motion picture soundtrack
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: horrorhunter on October 17, 2025, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: Memphremagog on October 17, 2025, 06:02:39 PM(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Jy7AJp7rL._UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)

Great artwork from the motion picture soundtrack
Do you know if Gray Morrow did this artwork? He did Independent-International poster art, and I believe Bob Lebar used Morrow's art in his little Wolfstein intro Sam Sherman cooked up for Frankenstein's Bloody Terror.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Mike Scott on October 17, 2025, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: horrorhunter on October 17, 2025, 07:18:33 PMDo you know if Gray Morrow did this artwork?

It was Stephen Sistilli.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: horrorhunter on October 17, 2025, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 17, 2025, 07:45:58 PMIt was Stephen Sistilli.
Thanks.

I couldn't tell if those wiggly lines were initials or something else.

Is there an info source that lists the art credits for movie posters?
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Mike Scott on October 17, 2025, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: horrorhunter on October 17, 2025, 10:20:03 PMIs there an info source that lists the art credits for movie posters?

Not as such, I don't think. You can google people's names and get lists of their work, but no alphabetical list of movie titles, that I know of. "Learn About Movie Posters" probably some info.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Memphremagog on October 18, 2025, 01:23:52 PM
Quote from: horrorhunter on October 17, 2025, 07:18:33 PMDo you know if Gray Morrow did this artwork? He did Independent-International poster art, and I believe Bob Lebar used Morrow's art in his little Wolfstein intro Sam Sherman cooked up for Frankenstein's Bloody Terror.

He did this one sheet for the film:

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/ha?p=1-0-2-9-8-10298583&it=product)
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Mike Scott on October 18, 2025, 04:28:06 PM
ALL NEW!
ALL COLOR!


So, we made the poster in black and white, just to confuse people.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: horrorhunter on October 18, 2025, 05:20:53 PM
Just discovered Sam Sherman died recently at 85.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/samuel-sherman-dead-satans-sadists-naughty-stewardesses-1236389954/

His movies were low quality but big fun. Perfect drive-in fare. Because of when they were made and shown they've attained high status among Monster Kids. His commentaries on those DVDs are very enjoyable and informative. His work made a lot of monster fans happy!

Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: Memphremagog on October 18, 2025, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: horrorhunter on October 18, 2025, 05:20:53 PMJust discovered Sam Sherman died recently at 85.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/samuel-sherman-dead-satans-sadists-naughty-stewardesses-1236389954/

His movies were low quality but big fun. Perfect drive-in fare. Because of when they were made and shown they've attained high status among Monster Kids. His commentaries on those DVDs are very enjoyable and informative. His work made a lot of monster fans happy!



Not just his horror films, his biker and blaxploitation films were all great grindhouse fare! he will be missed.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: GeekDragon on October 19, 2025, 12:01:09 PM
Since it's the Halloween season, I may dig out my DVD and watch this again.  Who else is watching this during Halloween?
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: AndyFish on October 23, 2025, 11:33:28 AM
I've got the Blu Ray lined up for next week.
Title: Re: Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Post by: horrorhunter on October 23, 2025, 02:31:30 PM
Yep. I'll watch it again for Halloween-time.

Poor Lon. Avoid the alcohol folks.