Universal Monster Army

Didn't want this to just get buried in "Classifieds".

Huge collection of RARE '60s UM and other monster toys. Large pics! (If you're registered.)

https://entertainment.ha.com/c/search/results.zx?dept=2182&mode=live&auction_name=49183&type=bidbox-1-ent-open-49183-Toys-tem100625

Crazy overwhelming ammount of good stuff.    If I had the $$$ I wouldnt even know where to start.   

Stuff this good should have been split up into multiple auctions.   Id bet even the usual suspects with the $$$ are overwhelmed. 

Quote from: Dr.Terror on October 09, 2025, 03:02:44 PMIf I had the $$$ I wouldnt even know where to start.   

I'd start with the Creature SPP Plaque!  :)  (If they were selling them individually.)

!!!!!

With all of that MPC goodness I'm surprised there isn't a Haunted Hulk. They even have the Monster Checkers Set, and it's listed as by "Cardinal" instead of MPC. They got the name wrong on the Daffy Daddy-Ohs, they call them "Uglies". Some great boxed Hamilton's Invaders sets, too.

I'm just going to copy all of these pictures for this treasure trove! Probably as close as I'll ever get to most of it.

Only a few days left. I am tempted to throw some bids down just because some things are so low.

Quote from: John Pertwee on October 20, 2025, 06:03:56 PMI am tempted to throw some bids down just because some things are so low.

I don't see anyone picking up any bargains, here. Low bid just means the last guy hasn't bid, yet.  ;D 

Quote from: John Pertwee on October 20, 2025, 06:03:56 PMOnly a few days left. I am tempted to throw some bids down just because some things are so low.

nothing is low when you tack on their ridiculous buyers premium fees.   Herritage auctions arent for the average person.

Quote from: Dr.Terror on October 21, 2025, 04:38:38 AMnothing is low when you tack on their ridiculous buyers premium fees.   Herritage auctions arent for the average person.

Very true.

The prices realized were incredible on some items.

Welcome to the UMA, Gcole!  :)

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 24, 2025, 10:13:52 PMWelcome to the UMA, Gcole!  :)

Thanks been lurking this year and have learned a ton of information. Been my go to resource

Those prices were completely absurd.    I really dont know how someone can validate spending 30k on a paint by numbers set.   Just Ridiculous.

Quote from: Dr.Terror on October 25, 2025, 09:35:04 AMThose prices were completely absurd.

Pocket change for a multi-millionaire.

Quote from: Dr.Terror on October 25, 2025, 09:35:04 AMI really dont know how someone can validate spending 30k on a paint by numbers set.

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Oh yes there were some bargains to be had. Lot 88257 Lost in Space 3D Action game with the Roto-Jet gun as an example, the Dracula Kite (the only one that I'm aware of) should have been one of the highlights of the sale, just go through the listings with the prices realized and you'll see many lots that went extremely reasonable. Instead of crying the blues some should feel good knowing that your collectibles are worth some decent money at least. I'm sure the reason for some lower priced lots and some honest bargains was because of the magnitude of so many items being sold at once.

Yeah.   It boggles my mind that something you can see everyday like AHI stuff went higher than that Drac kite.   

Quote from: skully on October 28, 2025, 01:43:52 AM[...] the Dracula Kite (the only one that I'm aware of) should have been one of the highlights of the sale [...]

I was shocked it didn't go for considerably more, and finally seeing a packaged version made me wonder: is there a pre 1965 version labeled as Dracula? All these years I've believed it was packaged as "Dracula Kite", with the ad being the only clear image I'd ever seen.

Hi Darkmonkeygod.  I remember when the owner of this collection aquired this piece, it was actually one of his highlights of his collection.  Speculation on my part is it wasn't a well known monster piece, with very few people knowing of it's existance, and not being as dynamic and visual as the other well known monster pieces in the sale.

Quote from: skully on October 28, 2025, 03:58:54 PMI remember when the owner of this collection aquired this piece,

So (if you know), is this auction from one collection, or many collections?

Quote from: skully on October 28, 2025, 03:58:54 PMI remember when the owner of this collection aquired this piece, it was actually one of his highlights of his collection.  Speculation on my part is it wasn't a well known monster piece, with very few people knowing of it's existance, and not being as dynamic and visual as the other well known monster pieces in the sale.

I so wish I could've met or at least corresponded with him in some way. Such amazing items. Do you know of any story behind his finding this sealed example of the kite?

Funny enough, beyond being lumped in with an embarrassment of riches - the slew of other amazing monster items - I think being sealed may actually have hurt the hammer price on this one a little, as even though displaying an opened kite takes up a great deal of room, the thing encased in plastic isn't all that impressive. Still, that it sold for under a thousand (much less under three) really surprised me, particularly given that there were a lot of surprises in the other direction, dollar-wise. I really am super curious to know if this was ever marketed with the Dracula name and have been looking back over my copy and notes on the Lugosi V Universal lawsuits and judgements.





Funny enough, I wonder if being sealed didn't hurt this a little.

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 28, 2025, 04:03:04 PMSo (if you know), is this auction from one collection, or many collections?

I realize you asked Skully, Mike, but it's my understanding from Heritage that this and a swath of the monster art in the previous auction are all from the one collection.

Hey Mike Scott. Yes, it's believed to be from the one owner, along with what darkmonkeygod mentioned with the monster wallet art belonging to him also, along with some impressive movie poster items that were previously sold through Heritage in earlier auctions. There might even be more yet to come, but not positive on this. He was a friend of mine, and actually quite a few of these very pieces sold were once in my collection, he came over to my house frequently.

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 28, 2025, 04:13:15 PM. . this and a swath of the monster art in the previous auction are all from the one collection.

Wow!  :o

Quote from: skully on October 28, 2025, 04:52:01 PMHe was a friend of mine, and actually quite a few of these very pieces sold were once in my collection

Wowee!  :)

Also, on another note, did anyone by chance take a real close look at the so-called repro Frankenstein speaker head item # 88008?  I zoomed in on this item and it honestly looked like it could be an original, with some of the green paint being worn away and showing the blue-ish plastic underneath that some of the speakers were molded in. I read where a darker green paint was used for these pieces instead of a lighter green used for the green plastic molded ones. Heritage did mention that the weight was heavier, but I wonder??

Quote from: skully on October 28, 2025, 05:12:06 PMAlso, on another note, did anyone by chance take a real close look at the so-called repro Frankenstein speaker head item # 88008?

I don't know enough about the speakers to judge, but it wouldn't be the first thing Heritage got wrong. Still hilarious to me that they had all the wallets and plaques in house and didn't notice that the original art for the wallets is not the original art for the plaques. Not that I imagine the buyer cares.

Darkmonkeygod, very true.  On a different note, a good friend of mine was going bonkers over this sale, he was ready to jump in and bid right from the start. We both talked about the Dracula kite, but he was determined to get it, along with possibly a few other pieces he was watching. Knowing he was bidding on the kite, I backed off without bidding. Little did I realize,he got the date of the auction confused, all the while with me thinking that he was the one bidding on it, and because of this I wasn't bidding on it because I didn't want to go against him. When the auction was over,I e-mailed him expecting him to be overjoyed with getting the piece especially at such a good price. You can only imagine the dismay with both of us after the auction ended!!  He missed the entire auction thinking it was at a later date.  With your other question above, I have no idea where it was aquired or what was paid for it when he got the piece, I only know he talked about it with pride. Anyway, I'm still studying that other speaker head from the sale still thinking it could be a real one.

The Kite in terms of shear rarity is at the top of that auction, not the most valuable, clearly by the price, but the rarest. For sure. I have been collecting for around 60 years with my father. Did they make any other character? It is certainly a magical piece. I always thought of it as a myth lost in time. Seems like there is good knowledge on it here.

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 28, 2025, 10:24:50 PMI don't know enough about the speakers to judge, but it wouldn't be the first thing Heritage got wrong. Still hilarious to me that they had all the wallets and plaques in house and didn't notice that the original art for the wallets is not the original art for the plaques. Not that I imagine the buyer cares.

Yeah, I notice they misidentified the MPC Daffy Daddy-Ohs as "Uglies".

I don't believe there were any other monster characters produced to compliment the Dracula kite, and if there was, I've never seen an advertisement for them. Only ad I know of is the one Darkmonkeygod showed for Dracula.   A few years back I inquired about the Frankenstein key chain advertised in early FM, I've never seen one anywhere for sale.

They also made a Frankenstein belt buckle I've never seen.

Quote from: skully on October 28, 2025, 05:12:06 PMAlso, on another note, did anyone by chance take a real close look at the so-called repro Frankenstein speaker head item # 88008?  I zoomed in on this item and it honestly looked like it could be an original, with some of the green paint being worn away and showing the blue-ish plastic underneath that some of the speakers were molded in. I read where a darker green paint was used for these pieces instead of a lighter green used for the green plastic molded ones. Heritage did mention that the weight was heavier, but I wonder??

Yeah , i own an original speaker and looking at that , it looks like an original. Why would a guy with a collection of the rarest of rare stuff have a repro of anything? Boggles the mind.

Quote from: skully on October 31, 2025, 02:27:07 AMThey also made a Frankenstein belt buckle I've never seen.

I've seen one poor photo of it. When you write "they", you don't mean Pressman, correct? I would love to know the name of the company that released the belt buckle.

Quote from: jimkaff on October 31, 2025, 08:51:59 AMYeah , i own an original speaker and looking at that , it looks like an original.

Quite the buy at $475 and a helluva mistake on the part of Heritage if so!

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 31, 2025, 10:27:45 AMQuite the buy at $475 and a helluva mistake on the part of Heritage if so!

I didn't read the details on that. Didn't they play it up, at all, or just "Here's an old kite for ya."

Hi Darkmonkeygod.  Sorry for any confusion here, for the Frankenstein keychain and belt buckle, it was the ads in old FM's selling them, I don't know who the maker of them was.

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 31, 2025, 11:51:36 AMI didn't read the details on that. Didn't they play it up, at all, or just "Here's an old kite for ya."

Kite?

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 31, 2025, 04:45:37 PMKite?

Aren't we still talking about the Drac kite?

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 31, 2025, 04:52:16 PMAren't we still talking about the Drac kite?

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Quote from: jimkaff on October 31, 2025, 08:51:59 AMYeah , i own an original speaker and looking at that , it looks like an original. Why would a guy with a collection of the rarest of rare stuff have a repro of anything? Boggles the mind.

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on October 31, 2025, 05:01:40 PM...

I guess ... means no.

Quote from: Mike Scott on October 09, 2025, 02:07:19 AMDidn't want this to just get buried in "Classifieds".

Huge collection of RARE '60s UM and other monster toys. Large pics! (If you're registered.)

https://entertainment.ha.com/c/search/results.zx?dept=2182&mode=live&auction_name=49183&type=bidbox-1-ent-open-49183-Toys-tem100625

I get nothing at all from that link. Any Standard Plastics monster wallets or a Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory?

Quote from: horrorhunter on October 09, 2025, 05:01:50 PMWith all of that MPC goodness I'm surprised there isn't a Haunted Hulk. They even have the Monster Checkers Set, and it's listed as by "Cardinal" instead of MPC. They got the name wrong on the Daffy Daddy-Ohs, they call them "Uglies". Some great boxed Hamilton's Invaders sets, too.

I'm just going to copy all of these pictures for this treasure trove! Probably as close as I'll ever get to most of it.

Could you post the Hamilton's Invaders items in the Hamilton's Invaders thread?

https://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=12388.120

 ???

Hep, click back on that link, go to past sale prices in dark blue box above, then go to select auctions box in light grey above, look for the October 24 horror auction, see if you get the pictures.

Quote from: Hepcat on November 05, 2025, 01:07:05 AMI get nothing at all from that link.

Go to Heritage and sign in.

Well that may be an option now. Yesterday night I wasn't even getting the Heritage website.

 :(

I'm curious as to why the kite was advertised as Dracula kite but the packaging just says monster.  It bears a slight resemblance of a bloated, widow's peakless Lugosi.  I wonder why Pressman kept the Universal copyright on it?  I mean if they paid for licensing, why not use "Dracula" on it.  Even though, I think they could use the word Dracula without any license. 

Assuming Bela's kid was blocking it due to image (which was exaggerated), maybe that's why Pressman dropped the Dracula from packaging. ??  But then if they marketed as a generic monster kite, why the need for the Universal copyright?  Maybe they just forget to remove before printing?

If the lawsuit from Bela's kid wasn't in question, then I guess you could assume the distorted illustration used was the reason it needed the copyright.  But then why not use "Dracula" on kite instead of "Monster" on packaging since you promoted as "Dracula" in advertising.

I know I'm overthinking this, but the kite's packaging may have always been printed as monster kite but when the person wrote up ad for it, that person labeled as Dracula kite because of resemblance to Lugosi.

Which of course goes back to why Pressman had to use the copyright.  And this may have been before the Lugosi estate lawsuit was settled.  Universal still had claims to "image" of its "Dracula".  But then why not use "Dracula" on the packaging if you are being charged to license it?

Questions I ponder as I head out to take up leaves in the backyard.

Quote from: Monster Mafia on November 19, 2025, 11:55:05 AMI know I'm overthinking this

Better than raking up leaves!  ;D