What would you consider THE rarest of the rare 1960's monster items/toys? Based off of my searching the last 20+ years, I'd have to go with the vacuform plaques. They had a propensity to crack, and therefore get tossed out.
JP
I take it that you mean the Standard Plastics Products (SPP) monster plaques.
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Here's our founder fmofmpls posing with five of them:
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Quote from: Hepcat on May 31, 2022, 10:01:46 AM
I take it that you mean the Standard Plastics Products (SPP) monster plaques.
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Here's our founder fmofmpls posing with five of them:
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Yep, that's them alright. He's just missing the Creature. I'd be happy with just one.
JP
Evidently most of those were not his own.
:-\
Original, unrestored Don Post masks from the 60s, specifically Hollywood Horrors and Universal Horrors (calander) .
Packaged examples of the SPP wallets and plaques, packaged examples of the Diener danglers.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on May 31, 2022, 04:00:35 PM
Packaged examples of the SPP wallets and plaques, packaged examples of the Diener danglers.
Of course, anything in its original packaging is going to add a premium to its rarity.
JP
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on May 31, 2022, 04:00:35 PM
Packaged examples of the SPP wallets and plaques, packaged examples of the Diener danglers.
Those danglers were my first choice.
Quote from: Dr.Terror on May 31, 2022, 05:12:36 PM
Those danglers were my first choice.
Never heard of them.
JP
There a pic of Frank in the gallery. Frank and Phantom in poses similar to the marx figures.
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=282;preview (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=282;preview)
Yellow and Pink are colors ive seen. They look like Jigglers.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on May 31, 2022, 04:00:35 PM
Packaged examples of the SPP wallets and plaques
I've only ever seen one photo of each. The plaque sold for 10K. I wonder how much a carded wallet would go for?
Quote from: Dr.Terror on May 31, 2022, 05:50:28 PM
There a pic of Frank in the gallery. Frank and Phantom in poses similar to the marx figures.
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=282;preview (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=282;preview)
Yellow and Pink are colors ive seen. They look like Jigglers.
They were all produced in orange. And what you describe as pink is a muted red (unless faded).
I'll also add that the Emenee Enlarg-a-graph Monster and Horror kits are extremely uncommon, with unused examples being unknown to me though I suspect one, two, or three collectors may have the pair in their collections. The Trace-a-graph kit is only a little more common.
Quote from: Mike Scott on May 31, 2022, 07:15:21 PM
I've only ever seen one photo of each. The plaque sold for 10K. I wonder how much a carded wallet would go for?
Was the carded one you've seen in the Kirk Hammet or Freddie Poe collection?
JP
I wish he did, but Freddie Poe doesn't have one.
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Id put the bobble heads up there. And has anyone confirmed if the large Elwars came on those cards?
Quote from: Dr.Terror on May 31, 2022, 08:46:36 PM
Id put the bobble heads up there.
There are a number of each of those in some well known collections, plus the major bobble collectors.
In thinking on it, the Halco UP costumes are genuinely rare, to my knowledge.
I expect there is scarcer, but I've never seen a Frankenstein Monster speaker in person :
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Quote from: Wolfman on May 31, 2022, 08:03:30 PM
Was the carded one you've seen in the Kirk Hammet or Freddie Poe collection?
It was in Hammet's book.
What's rarer, the individual wallet card, or the store display?
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on May 31, 2022, 09:37:14 PM
In thinking on it, the Halco UP costumes are genuinely rare, to my knowledge.
Did they ever do a UP costume other than Frank?
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on May 31, 2022, 09:37:14 PM
There are a number of each of those in some well known collections, plus the major bobble collectors.
I was basing that on not seeing any for sale in quite some time Some of the well known stuff has not popped up for sale in years.
Okamoto kits, Takara inflatables etc...
Most of this stuff is beyond rare. Its pretty much unobtainable.
Quote from: Mike Scott on May 31, 2022, 11:05:34 PM
Did they ever do a UP costume other than Frank?
Wolf Man, Phantom, perhaps Mr. Hyde, and there remains the strangeness of the Phantom jumpsuit looking like a hastily repurposed Lugosi Dracula...
PRobably not the rarest but still very hard to get...
MOC (Mint on card) Kooky Spookys
MOC Colorform Aliens
Possibly the rarest thing I know of...the Kooky Spooky Mail-In Haunted House! I want that so bad!
Quote from: Barlow on June 27, 2022, 12:34:42 AM
MOC Colorform Aliens
That second series is the stuff of legend and misery.
Truly! You almost have to win the Lottery to obtain a set of the 2nd series!
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If I could find this guy to complete my collection, that would be so nice.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on July 31, 2022, 11:12:47 PM
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If I could find this guy to complete my collection, that would be so nice.
You will find one with diligence, keep it up.
I once had a lot of 1960s monster items, but I kept only one. This pic, taken by me, originated at this site. I still have the one on the left; the other belongs to a member of this forum.
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Quote from: marsattacks666 on July 31, 2022, 11:12:47 PM
If I could find this guy to complete my collection, that would be so nice.
Do you have the one with red pants?
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 01, 2022, 04:24:25 PM
Do you have the one with red pants?
And both versions of Frank. Green and Grey hands
Quote from: Dr.Terror on August 01, 2022, 04:45:23 PM
And both versions of Frank. Green and Grey hands
Are there at least as many green hands as red pants? (Green hands are the rare ones, right?)
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 01, 2022, 04:24:25 PM
Do you have the one with red pants?
I would be happy with either version.
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 01, 2022, 05:38:02 PM
Are there at least as many green hands as red pants? (Green hands are the rare ones, right?)
I think they are both equally available. Frank. Finding either version with no paint wear is the tough part. Even red pants wolf seems to pop up more regularly these days.
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Universal Monsters - Craft - Famous Monsters Photo Printing Set - Yankee Photo Products, 1960's - Ad
I can't remember the last one of these sets listed on eBay.
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Universal Monsters - Craft - Coppersmith Set - Frankenstein and Dracula - Aurora, 1960's
They made a 2nd set containing The Wolf Man and Creature From the Black Lagoon.
I have one of the frames from that Monster Photo Printing Set above. I've had it since I was a kid. I also have some of the negatives, too. Wish I had the whole thing...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8678/15449648093_6d27b75a9b_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pxeu7Z)Print Frame From Famous Monsters Photo Printing Set (Yankee 1960's) (https://flic.kr/p/pxeu7Z) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
Here are the negatives from the Monster Printing Set that I have...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8603/16043506086_4b7457edf0_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qrHapU)Negatives from the Famous Monsters Printing Set (Yankee 1960's) (https://flic.kr/p/qrHapU) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
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Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 22, 2022, 05:44:25 PM
They made a 2nd set containing The Wolf Man and Creature From the Black Lagoon.
Did they? I know Aurora issued all four individually in the early to middle sixties, but I'm unaware of the Wolf Man and Creature being issued as a two pack along with this Frankenstein's Monster & Count Dracula set from 1970 or so. I would love to see it if it does exist.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on August 22, 2022, 06:59:55 PM
Did they? I know Aurora issued all four individually in the early to middle sixties, but I'm unaware of the Wolf Man and Creature being issued as a two pack along with this Frankenstein's Monster & Count Dracula set from 1970 or so. I would love to see it if it does exist.
My bad.
I
thought these were issued individually. This was the only picture I could find. When I saw this set of two, I assyou&me'd that the other two were also a duo.
Didn't know the duo set was issued in the '70'.
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 22, 2022, 05:20:57 PM
I can't remember the last one of these sets listed on eBay.
I can only remember seeing one on eBay. People used them, so you'll never find a MIB one, but it looks like they chucked them once they ran out of the stuff to make more photos.
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on August 22, 2022, 06:59:55 PM
I'm unaware of the Wolf Man and Creature being issued as a two pack.
I've never seen one. I would just like to have some good photos of the individual Creature package and parts!
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 22, 2022, 07:16:39 PM
Didn't know the duo set was issued in the '70'.
No worry. The two Frank & Drac two pack was, I believe, available wholesale in '69 and '70. Dunno if it ran longer than that.
I owned a duel set of the Creature and Wolfman, it really was made. As with the Frankenstein and Dracula, I snagged that duel set a number of years ago on e-bay, haven't seen one since. I also snagged the unused black plates for the Creature and Wolfman years ago. There was a mint sealed photo printing set that was found I believe sometime in the 90's at a flea market somewhere in New Jersey.
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 22, 2022, 08:31:02 PM
I've never seen one. I would just like to have some good photos of the individual Creature package and parts!
I've never seen one either. I do have a creature coppersmith mold, though (no packaging). I have all the molds except Frankenstein.
Thanks for doing the reverse on the negatives. I remember you did that once before. It looks weird to me to see them in positive.
Here's my Creature coppersmith mold...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5833/22630813066_f324732402_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AtNQhb)1960's Creature Aurora Coppersmith Plaque (https://flic.kr/p/AtNQhb) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
Quote from: skully on August 22, 2022, 10:36:00 PM
I owned a duel set of the Creature and Wolfman, it really was made.
Cool! Do you still have it? How about a pic?
Quote from: skully on August 22, 2022, 10:36:00 PM
I also snagged the unused black plates for the Creature and Wolfman years ago.
You mean the matrixes?
Quote from: skully on August 22, 2022, 10:36:00 PM
There was a mint sealed photo printing set that was found I believe
Damn! I wonder which rich monster collector now owns it?
I own an original Frankenstein copersmith from the early 60's, I bought it at one of Morphy's earliest auctions, it's actually a very bland blue almost generic type box, no graphics, that's just a window type box with Frankenstein printed on the ends to let you know what it is.
Quote from: Monolith on August 22, 2022, 10:39:59 PM
Here's my Creature coppersmith mold...
Sweet! Wait, that's the mold/matrix? It looks like copper.
Hey Mike! Unfortunately I don't own it any more, sold it years ago, I'm not sure, but between the 2 duel sets, I believe that Creature and Wolfman is the rarer of the two.
Quote from: skully on August 22, 2022, 10:51:45 PM
it's actually a very bland blue almost generic type box, no graphics, that's just a window type box with Frankenstein printed on the ends to let you know what it is.
Yeah, it's only interesting for what it is, not for how it looks.
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 22, 2022, 10:53:04 PM
Sweet! Wait, that's the mold/matrix? It looks like copper.
That's just the lighting making it look golden. It's the thick black plastic mold/matrix. Here's a copper impression I made from it...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3840/15013138321_7f414f7c5f_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oSEfYr)Creature Aurora Coppersmith Plaque (https://flic.kr/p/oSEfYr) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
Quote from: Monolith on August 22, 2022, 11:10:42 PM
Here's a copper impression I made from it...
Cool! I keep looking on eBay for one to buy, buy they're just not that well done. Done buy kids, of course.
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Universal Monsters - Candy Boxes - Phoenix Candy Company, 1963 - A
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Universal Monsters - Candy Boxes - Phoenix Candy Company, 1963 - B
These empty candy/toy boxes are quite rare and seemingly impossible to find in excellent condition. They command high prices. I've seen individual back panels sell for as much as $100.00.
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FRANKENSTEIN - Game - Target - Large - 19 in. x 19 in. - Hasbro, 1963
These target games were issued in two sizes, 19" x 19" and 12" or 13" square. They are basically a carboard box, so finding them in good condition is a bit difficult - and expensive.
Some of the 60's monster toys can be very scarce and pricey.
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FRANKENSTEIN - Pencil Sharpener - ABG - 1964 - (All Colors)
The popular ABG Universal Monsters Pencil Sharpeners are a difficult challenge for the completists among us. The hardest to find are the Frankenstein sharpeners. (I have never seen an Orange one for sale on eBay. I got mine through a trade with another UMA member.)
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 28, 2022, 09:32:23 AM
I've seen individual back panels sell for as much as $100.00.
Trading card collectors buy those as well. I hate cross-collectibles! More competition. ;D
Hey, I recognize those boxes.😉
Id love to find a Frank sharpener in any color.
Here's a toy from the 1965 that you don't see too often. Me and my sister had these as a kid. It's the Show 'N Tell from G.E. You listen to the record as you watch the color images from the slides being projected onto the plastic TV. They made a lot of Disney sets, and some superheroes, but also Frankenstein and Dracula. Here's my Frankenstein pack. Inside is the record and slides...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1829/41653484140_0faca2762d_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26sLZDE)Frankenstein Show 'N Tell ( G. E. 1965 ) (https://flic.kr/p/26sLZDE) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
And here's my Show 'N Tell Dracula...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1828/42744710984_fb07e6245a_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/288cPnA)Dracula Show 'N Tell ( G.E. 1965 ) (https://flic.kr/p/288cPnA) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
Wow, Monolith, cool! I'm assuming these are pretty rare?
Quote from: marsattacks666 on August 28, 2022, 09:12:30 PM
Wow, Monolith, cool! I'm assuming these are pretty rare?
It seems like Frankenstein and Dracula are probably the two hardest to find. I just looked on e-bay and there is one Frankenstein for a buy it now of $30 plus shipping, no Dracula, though.
Quote from: Monolith on August 28, 2022, 11:38:36 PM
It seems like Frankenstein and Dracula are probably the two hardest to find. I just looked on e-bay and there is one Frankenstein for a buy it now of $30 plus shipping, no Dracula, though.
I'll check it out. Thank you.
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 28, 2022, 01:02:33 PMTrading card collectors buy those as well. I hate cross-collectibles! More competition. ;D
I'm with you! The high prices due to competition from Trekkies is why I've ended up having to just say "No!" to the 1967 Leaf Star Trek cards, Ideal Star Trek board game and Hasbro Star Trek Marble Maze. And competition from Marvel zombies prices the Kenner Marvel Superheroes Sparkle Paint Set out of my range.
>:(