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Collecting Monsters => Modern Monster Toys => Topic started by: Sallah on September 10, 2021, 09:41:03 AM

Title: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Sallah on September 10, 2021, 09:41:03 AM
Looks like Hasbro will be pairing the Universal Monsters with its Transformers line!

The first collaboration is up for preorder now at Target- Draculus!

https://www.target.com/p/transformers-collaborative-universal-monsters-dracula-mash-up-draculus/-/A-84260299 (https://www.target.com/p/transformers-collaborative-universal-monsters-dracula-mash-up-draculus/-/A-84260299)

Sallah
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Monster Mike on September 10, 2021, 05:00:06 PM
"...monsters in disguise!"

Great info.

Thanks-sallah-ott!
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Mike Scott on September 10, 2021, 05:01:18 PM
I hope they don't make a Creature!
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: MadCow on September 10, 2021, 05:23:22 PM
The Target PO is sold out. Thankfully I was able to get one from Hasbropulse.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/new/products/transformers-collaborative-universal-monsters-dracula-mash-up-draculus
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Palifan on September 11, 2021, 01:23:12 PM
I've ordered one of these today although I'm still a bit on the fence with them so my cancel at some point. Are there others coming does anyone know?

Ian
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: TheMadScientist on September 11, 2021, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: Palifan on September 11, 2021, 01:23:12 PM
I've ordered one of these today although I'm still a bit on the fence with them so my cancel at some point. Are there others coming does anyone know?

Ian

where did you order from? I'm seeing them as sold out on Target and the Hasbro site.
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Palifan on September 11, 2021, 04:01:45 PM
I picked mine up on pre-order from Zavvi in the UK. It's online so you might be able to get one from the US.

Ian
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: TheMadScientist on September 13, 2021, 01:48:35 AM
I'd like to grab it at some point, but might just wait until it's actually released. Hopefully it's fairly easy to get my hands on.
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 11:14:58 AM
Today is the day! Now available for in-store pickup and shipping.

https://www.target.com/p/transformers-collaborative-universal-monsters-dracula-mash-up-draculus/-/A-84260299 (https://www.target.com/p/transformers-collaborative-universal-monsters-dracula-mash-up-draculus/-/A-84260299)
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Mike Scott on November 28, 2021, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 11:14:58 AM
Today is the day! Now available for in-store pickup and shipping.

Just Dracula?

Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 28, 2021, 12:13:21 PM
Just Dracula?

Yes, just Dracula so far.  BUT - there's rumors of a Creature and Wolfman if Dracula does well.

Here's a good overview of the figure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs2ff7OxgA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs2ff7OxgA)

From a Transformers fan perspective - it's honestly not perfect as a Transformer.  The original mold this is based off of was a "Headmaster" - the head was meant to detach and turned into a smaller robot that could be stowed in the chest cockpit.  But they removed that gimmick, and now Drac's head just hangs off the back of the Bat mode. (Although there are "upgrade kit" fixes that allow you to store the weapons and cover the head on the back: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284509570680?hash=item423e178678:g:mUIAAOSwNjhhfVkU (https://www.ebay.com/itm/284509570680?hash=item423e178678:g:mUIAAOSwNjhhfVkU) )

This is part of the Collaborative subline, including crossovers with Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, and Jurassic Park:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Collaborative (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Collaborative)
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Mike Scott on November 28, 2021, 02:29:13 PM
I wonder what Frankenstein, or The Creature would morph into?
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 28, 2021, 02:29:13 PM
I wonder what Frankenstein, or The Creature would morph into?

The Creature is supposed to be a retool of Skullsmasher, from the same line as the bat (Mindwipe) they used for Dracula.

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/0/01/TitansReturntoy-Skullcruncher.jpg)


Wolfman is allegedly going to be from Weirdwolf

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/1/1f/TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Deluxe-Wolfwire.jpg/800px-TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Deluxe-Wolfwire.jpg)

If they're keeping with using molds from Titans Return, there aren't too many options for Frank and the Mummy.
The Mummy could maybe be a retool of Scourge, with the shell redone to look like a sarcophagus, and the robot "wings" could pass as bandages.

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/32/TitansReturntoy-ScourgeDeluxe.jpg)


Really the only stand out for Frank to me would be Hardhead, or Perceptor and have him turn into lab equipment.

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/1/10/TitansReturntoy-Hardhead.jpg/800px-TitansReturntoy-Hardhead.jpg)
(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/5/58/TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Deluxe-Perceptor.jpg/800px-TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Deluxe-Perceptor.jpg)

The hang up with Scourge and Perceptor is that those molds haven't recently been reissued, whereas the molds for Mindwipe, Skullsmasher, Weirdwolf, and Hardhead were all used in the last year as part of a retro reissue line.

Here's the complete list of the Deluxes from that series, assuming they even stay in the same series. (But if 3 of the known one come from that toyline, they might finish out the rest from there too, that is, if they even plan to do a Frank and Mummy)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Titans_Return_(toyline)#Deluxe_Class
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: TheMadScientist on November 28, 2021, 08:48:18 PM
I picked up one of these tonight, and it's pretty cool. I never really got into the Transformers as a kid, but as a Monsters fan, I like it nonetheless. I did have to ask a worker at Target to get it for me, since they were still in the back of the store I went to. But he was able to find it without much trouble. Definitely glad I didn't pay for one on ebay after they initially sold out online.
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 09:43:47 PM
Quote from: TheMadScientist on November 28, 2021, 08:48:18 PM
I picked up one of these tonight, and it's pretty cool. I never really got into the Transformers as a kid, but as a Monsters fan, I like it nonetheless. I did have to ask a worker at Target to get it for me, since they were still in the back of the store I went to. But he was able to find it without much trouble. Definitely glad I didn't pay for one on ebay after they initially sold out online.

That's what I heard from another friend that went out vampire hunting today - that they're in the back still.  I ordered mine for store pick up this morning, and it's ready, I'm going to pick it up tomorrow.

While Skullsmasher is a fun mold, I think a fish monster should turn into  a fish monster, and that the Generations Selects Seacon Gulf would be a good remold candidate, but those were a Japan exclusive, and I'm not sure how often those get reused.

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/c/c7/TF-Generations-Selects-Gulf.jpg/800px-TF-Generations-Selects-Gulf.jpg)
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 09:55:25 PM
For posterity, here's a comparison of the mold Draculus is based off of: Titans Return Mindwipe.

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/archive/5/59/20171022135211%21TitansReturntoy-MindwipeDeluxe.jpg)
(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/b/b1/Collab-toy-Draculus.jpg/800px-Collab-toy-Draculus.jpg)


Also, Mike, here's the original 80's concept sketch of the Creature, and also Dracula.

(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/4/4b/GillmanTransformer01.jpg/400px-GillmanTransformer01.jpg)
(https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/7/7c/DraculaTransformer01.jpg/800px-DraculaTransformer01.jpg)
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Mike Scott on November 28, 2021, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 09:55:25 PM
For posterity, here's a comparison of the mold Draculus is based off of:

Seems kinda cheesy that they are just repainting an old toy and calling it something else.

Quote from: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 09:55:25 PM
Also, Mike, here's the original 80's concept sketch of the Creature, and also Dracula.

Had no idea they planned on making these back in the '80s!
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 28, 2021, 10:42:40 PM
Seems kinda cheesy that they are just repainting an old toy and calling it something else.

Had no idea they planned on making these back in the '80s!

;D  Yeah, I agree, it's a bit cheesy.  But it's pretty much accepted and expected in the fandom.  Whenever one character gets revealed its always "Well, we got _____.  You know _____ is coming in the near future..."  Can't really blame them too much with all the engineering and parts count that goes into most figures though.  Even in the 80's, different characters were just repaints/recolors of the same mold.

Right?  Looks like they also had plans back then for a Fly too!
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Vintage_Horror_Movie_Series
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: darkmonkeygod on November 28, 2021, 11:13:34 PM
Quote from: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 28, 2021, 09:55:25 PM
Also, Mike, here's the original 80's concept sketch of the Creature, and also Dracula.

I thought these were from the early 2000s, give or take.

Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on November 29, 2021, 12:05:07 AM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on November 28, 2021, 11:13:34 PM
I thought these were from the early 2000s, give or take.

According to the tfwiki links, it was proposed in the 80s as part of the original Generation 1 toyline.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Draculus#Toys

I thought this little blurb was interesting:
"Oddly, the legal feasibility of this proposed series is highly questionable. While the character of Count Dracula dwells within the public domain, the Creature from the Black Lagoon is owned by Universal Studios, whereas the Fly is owned by 20th Century Fox. Generations identifies the toys as being these characters specifically, not parodies or approximations. Whether any actual attempts were made by Takara or Hasbro to obtain rights from the proper studios is unknown, though that fact may have contributed to the series' cancellation at the early concept art phase."
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: Haunted hearse on November 29, 2021, 10:13:42 AM
Since the transformed toy has those large bat wings, I don't think they needed the small bat wings. I think the character would have worked better without them. Possibly, instead of a removable cape, the cape could have transformed into bat wings.
Title: Re: Transformers x Universal Monsters Crossover Line!
Post by: MadCow on December 02, 2021, 08:22:51 PM
I got my Draculus in today from Hasbro Pulse:

(https://i.imgur.com/6BqpqMI.jpeg)

The box wasn't sealed or anything and packed poorly which caused some damage to the box but oh well. I still love the VHS style box. It came out really nice. Still debating if I should open the figure or leave it sealed.