https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-UNIVERSAL-WOLFMAN-WIND-UP-JALOPY-1960-039-S-JAPAN-/154365551221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Say45iXCRbYXCVjRUZKcHc%252FYgk4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-UNIVERSAL-WOLFMAN-WIND-UP-JALOPY-1960-039-S-JAPAN-/154365551221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Say45iXCRbYXCVjRUZKcHc%252FYgk4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
I was bidding on this, but I stopped 1/2 way thru, cuz it seemed like the head might have been a repurposed Wolfman pencil sharpener.
Is anyone familiar with this toy? The same or similar head sculpt?
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Do your homework. It's a good thing you didn't win, the manufacturer only ever made 3 characters, a Frankenstein, a Dracula, and a skull head, the sculpt is very different with these particular heads on these cars. Also, the car itself is a dark blue, wind-up mechanism key is located on the back of the car, and they had metal "feet" on the bottom that made them move when wound, the painted eyes are very different looking also. All 3 are scarce pieces.
Who was the manufacturer ? i tried looking thru the gallery, but couldnt find anything similar.I remember seeing a dracula version posted, but that was a long time ago.
Not sure of the company, possibly Yone, but not sure. As mentioned, pretty scarce pieces, in my opinion the generic "skull" head is the scarcest one, but the Frank and Drac might be more popular, maybe do a bit more searching, the rubber heads on these are very different sculpts, very different from the usual monster nik heads or sharpeners.
I'm seeing more and more "repro" pieces and "put-together" items being listed all the time, that's why I never was keen on the idea of re-popping some of this monster stuff even though some collectors were ok with it just to obtain a fake scarce piece for their shelf. Like I knew would eventually happen, it's now becoming problematic with certain items.
Quote from: ilikemonsters on March 18, 2021, 02:10:10 PM
I tried looking thru the gallery, but couldnt find anything similar.
There's a Dracula one.
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=323)
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 18, 2021, 02:38:03 PM
There's a Dracula one.
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=323)
OOOH LA LA !! Me Likey !
Yes, and be sure to thank "Mikey" for the found picture!!
Here's the Frank car.
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1885)
I love monsters driving cars.
Except when you run into them for real during rush hour!
Mike Scott, quick question for you. Did I, or did I not, when my son posted pictures years ago for me on here, did I get him to post the other car in this series, the skull? I can't remember.
More Drac pics.
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1886)
Quote from: skully on March 18, 2021, 05:36:42 PM
when my son posted pictures years ago for me on here, did I get him to post the other car in this series, the skull?
I can't find one.
Mike, thanks much for checking. When I posted about this third one in this series, I believe someone posted that they turned up on E-bay, yet I have not seen the skull head car ever on E-bay, except that is, when someone actually really did post a picture of it along with the Frankenstein one over 20 years ago in an E-bay auction. He had them posted in Halloween items. I found them by chance. I saw that the seller was from nearby Hamburg, along Rt. 61, about 20 miles away from me. At that time you could still exchange phone numbers on E-bay and I called him up, this guy had a ton of stuff, the skull car, 2 Frankenstein cars, and boxes of obscure Halloween and monster items that he bought privately at the time from a woman who lived in the Allentown area. When I arrived at his house, he had everything laid out on the living room floor, which he was eventually going to list. When he saw my enthusiasm with the items, he stopped the E-bay auction before anyone actually bid. I bought everything he had. Some of the boxes I haven't opened since I bought them.
Quote from: skully on March 18, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
Some of the boxes I haven't opened since I bought them.
20 years ago!? Anything good in them?
Quote from: ilikemonsters on March 18, 2021, 02:10:10 PM
Who was the manufacturer ?
KSK. Don't axe me what it stands for.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 18, 2021, 06:31:18 PMQuote from: skully on March 18, 2021, 05:36:42 PMMike Scott, quick question for you. Did I, or did I not, when my son posted pictures years ago for me on here, did I get him to post the other car in this series, the skull? I can't remember.
I can't find one.
I can. They were posted.
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Hey Hep!! Hey Mike!! Hep, you're correct, after seeing your post above, I was determined to find the picture, posting#378, page 26, from Nov. 2, 2016. The skull car is pictured there! It took some time going through my old posts, but it was worth it. Also saw some other photos that I had forgotten about that my son posted for me. And Mike, about my other post about not opening the boxes in over 20 years, yes, many good items in them. I can't remember what's all in them, but many of my items are here displayed, and many are boxed up, like these particular pieces. There is just not enough room to display everything, for now it's "mission impossible". And, one of these days, I'll open up the room (it's not here in my current home), that is blocked off that houses items that I haven't laid my eyes on in well over 25 or so years!!
Quote from: skully on March 19, 2021, 01:32:10 AM
posting#378, page 26, from Nov. 2, 2016.
I assume in Vintage Monster Toys, but what thread?
Mike, yes, Vintage Monster Toys, right now possibly posting # 380 or 381, page 26, thread is post an image of favourite monster or sci-fi collectible.
Quote from: skully on March 19, 2021, 02:15:01 AM
Vintage Monster Toys, right now possibly posting # 380 or 381,
Nothing in posts 380, or 381.
This is post #380.
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.msg510205#msg510205 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.msg510205#msg510205)
Skully is talking about post #381 in the list of his own posts which is how I found them in a minute or so. The pictures are here in post #213 of the "Post an Image of a Favourite Monster or Sci-Fi Collectible!" thread:
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.msg504268#msg504268 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.msg504268#msg504268)
C:)
The Wolfman car is bogus..... I even contacted this idiot and told him so. He never replied so he must have been aware it was not real.....
Quote from: Hepcat on March 19, 2021, 09:10:28 AM
Skully is talking about post #381 in the list of his own posts
Oh! He said page 26 in the "Post an image" thread, so that's where I was looking.
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/mauldune/20161102_222840.jpg)
Hey Hep, one of these days I'll get it right. As with that wolfman car, I just wonder who the winning bidder is. And I wonder if the seller found it that way, or, if he's the one that fabricated it.
Here are the unobscured pics of Skully's skull car:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g434/Balticprince/Skull_Car_3.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g434/Balticprince/Skull_Car_2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g434/Balticprince/Skull_Car_1.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
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Someone posted boxed examples of these on FB. Now I cant find em☹
Sold for $480😕. Not much bang for the buck there even if real.
Those that knew better didn't bid, they just watched probably just shaking their head, I find it hard to believe that it actually brought what it did.
Be curious to see if the buyer outs themselves on FB.
Quote from: skully on March 27, 2021, 11:36:08 AM
I find it hard to believe that it actually brought what it did.
I suppose it's
possible that somebody has a good head and mechanism, with a messed up body?
Hi Mike. The only thing is, the car body on the fake wolfman isn't the same body that the real ones have, unless it gets an entire new paint job, and the mechanism wind-up is located in the back of the car on real ones. Usually these cars come with a clown or a type of circus head or maybe a generic "people" type head, it's so easy to just pop it off and put something else on.
Quote from: skully on March 27, 2021, 07:00:15 PM
The only thing is, the car body on the fake wolfman isn't the same body that the real ones have
That part isn't even real? Who the hell paid $400 for this piece of crap!?
Hey Mike. Yea, if you look at the painting on the wolfman car, you'll see it's quite different from an authentic monster car from this series. And the actual wind-up key actually sticks out the back of the car around the trunk area. Your guess is as good as mine as to who paid over 400 for this thing!!
Mike, also, that wolfman fake had wheels that made it go, the authentic monster cars had actual metal "feet" on the bottom that made them move.
Quote from: skully on March 27, 2021, 11:52:20 PM
. . the authentic monster cars had actual metal "feet" on the bottom that made them move.
It was a "hopper".
Mike, there's something else that needs to be said here, one must realize that those of us who have been collecting for a while, as well as maybe being a bit older in regards to actually remembering these very toys in "our" youth, there are a lot of collectors who might not know enough about a particular piece that is reproduced in the exact image of an original, as well as something like this piece, a total made-up fake, if they weren't around years ago to actually know better with once having an original piece that would be in question. Also, these cars you really don't see that often either, they are truly scarce items, put all that into the mix and it might be easy(and unfortunate) for a "newer" collector to get taken or burnt. I admit, I really don't know all too well some of the newer monster pieces like the more vintage stuff, I'm sure I passed opportunities with newer items that seem to be obscure. But with all that, if I see something questionable, or downright dishonest, I'll surely try to bring it to attention on here, can't guarantee though that I'll spot them all. And I'm quite sure that there are a ton more people on this site that have superior knowledge over me with some of these pieces too.
Quote from: skully on March 28, 2021, 12:37:35 AM
. . there are a lot of collectors who might not know enough about a particular piece . .
And therefor shouldn't be paying a lot for something they know nothing about. Maybe $400 is chump change to this guy. Who knows?
If you look at the finished auction, the final price was very close to 500, if you add in shipping along with tax, it's well over 500. Just think, that money could have been put against something really nice!!
At the stsrt of the auction I asked ther seller what material the head was made of. He said the same plastic as the car body.. my biggest red flag just upon first glance was how cleanly painted the Wolfman head was.
Quote from: Dr.Terror on April 02, 2021, 10:28:13 AM
my biggest red flag just upon first glance was how cleanly painted the Wolfman head was.
It wasn't one of the original pencil sharpener colors?
Hi Mike. The head was painted brown, it could have been a re-done sharpener, or maybe a head from one of those "monster men" bagged figures, sort of like the monster niks, but the cheaper or more common version of these.
Quote from: skully on April 02, 2021, 12:28:04 PM
it could have been a re-done sharpener,
Looks exactly like it, to me!
Mike, yes, I think you're correct. This really isn't anything new with these jalopies, years ago a toy dealer found a generic one and popped off the clown head and put a Frankenstein head on it, this was back in the early 90's. The rubber Frank head was from a pencil topper, a perfect fit. I showed the person who bought it what a genuine one looked like. Even after looking at mine he still believed that his was the real deal, and he paid bucks for it even back then. This was around the same time that the fake rectangular Munsters keychain flashlights were circulating around, they looked so good, even I was almost fooled by them. Kind of like the Addams family small round pull-light that's on E-bay now, that round sticker has the same "look" to it, but I'm just not familiar enough with the piece to actually tell.
Quote from: skully on April 02, 2021, 06:28:01 PM
Kind of like the Addams family small round pull-light that's on E-bay now, that round sticker has the same "look" to it, but I'm just not familiar enough with the piece to actually tell.
Looks legit, buy the cord has been changed.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/addams-family-bantam-lite-pinback-292526528 (https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/addams-family-bantam-lite-pinback-292526528)
Head is the sharpener sculpt. Curious if it was recast, or just cur off the base and repainted. It was hand painted....carfully. Looks noting like the technique used on the other factory heads.
Quote from: skully on April 02, 2021, 06:28:01 PM
Mike, yes, I think you're correct. This really isn't anything new with these jalopies, years ago a toy dealer found a generic one and popped off the clown head and put a Frankenstein head on it, this was back in the early 90's. The rubber Frank head was from a pencil topper, a perfect fit.
Was it the 90s Style Guide squirt head?
Hi Dr. Terror. No, it was actually a vintage Frank pencil topper head from the 60's or early 70's. I actually remember seeing them back then, they were sold in a clear tall plastic cylinder counter container and they were on top of pencils and sometimes pens also, the head was painted but the skin color was a sort of light blue.
Mike, great work looking up the Addams family light, so it might actually be a legit piece, wonder what that particular one sold for and when. Very, very obscure piece for sure.
Quote from: skully on April 03, 2021, 01:58:45 AM
wonder what that particular one sold for and when.
You'll have to pay to find out. ;D