Universal Monster Army

Seller known for totally unrealistic prices.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564 (http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564)

Is that FJA giving the seller the middle finger? I think he should if he's not.

Quote from: Monster Bob on January 21, 2016, 06:26:13 PM
Seller known for totally unrealistic prices.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564 (http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564)

Yep. That's ridiculous alright.

What is the fair market value for a loose Horrorscope in nice condition now? I checked eBay for sold listings and the only 2 that came up were those repros from that samjo guy.

What about a real one still MIB? What would a collector expect to pay realistically?

At least every auction has a "or best offer" added. I think they are just looking for that one chump with too much $$ that just HAS to have an item. I don't know much about some of these vintage toys but I would guess the loose horror scope should be in the $800-1000 range. The rest of their auctions in the 10-15% of asking price.
Just my opinion.

I'm a huge fan of '60s MPC monster toys. The Haunted Hulk is my favorite, and I also love the Pop-Tops, Unbreakable Weirds, Horror House Target Set, etc. That said, the amount I would be willing to give for a loose Horrorscope is probably far less than current retail. To me the real value of the Horrorscope is in the original package graphics. Even so, I would only be will to pay around $500.00 for a MIB Horrorscope, which is WAY less than retail I would assume.. maybe around 1/10th. I doubt I would give over 100 bucks for a nice loose one with all the cards. I just think some of these toys are WAY overpriced, at least for what I would be willing to pay. I might give 2 grand for a nice boxed Haunted Hulk.. but not a Horrorscope, or that MPC Monster Checker Game either.

I think a lot of the reason for what collectors are willing to pay for a piece has to do with whether or not they had it, or wanted it, when they were a kid.

BTW, I wouldn't be interested in those high priced repros at all. For me to buy a repro it would have to be really cheap, way cheaper than what it could be made for. If it isn't real then it isn't worth much. You could display a nice looking fake, but you would always know it's a fake. Fantasy pieces done in the style of similar originals would be much more desirable to me than faked originals.

Even I have to chime in on this one!!  I thought when I saw that price that it was going to be a one of a kind prototype or something. I would really like to know what "this" seller is thinking here. Then I thought that maybe he made a "typo" error when he listed the price.  Heck, the last Famous Monsters cover art by Ron Cobb issue #54 months ago sold on e-bay for I think close to 14,000.  I know we're talking some big bucks here, but, in reality, it's a real "no-brainer" as to which one I'd rather own, given the choice. The only drawback is though that I think the cover art would have gone higher, but, all we have is the ending price on it.

There's a house that the bank foreclosed on around 8 miles from ym house that can be had for less than this.  This fella is stark raving mad.

Agreed!!!

Quote from: horrorhunter on January 22, 2016, 04:15:55 PM
I'm a huge fan of '60s MPC monster toys. That said, the amount I would be willing to give for a loose Horrorscope is probably far less than current retail.
I think a lot of the reason for what collectors are willing to pay for a piece has to do with whether or not they had it, or wanted it, when they were a kid.

I had this toy as a kid, and I wouldn't even pay $100 for it. It's one of the most overrated of the vintage horror toys. Give me a teal Marx set or Frankenstein bike buddy any day over this.

Quote from: Mord on January 22, 2016, 09:56:38 PM
I had this toy as a kid, and I wouldn't even pay $100 for it. It's one of the most overrated of the vintage horror toys. Give me a teal Marx set or Frankenstein bike buddy any day over this.

isnt this kind of like the Topps flip books? I have never investigated what this doo dad is exactly.

Quote from: Mord on January 22, 2016, 09:56:38 PM
It's one of the most overrated of the vintage horror toys.

It's not desirable because it plays 3 second clips of 4 movies. It's the design and the graphics and the rarity and the overall nostalgia of the thing. I buy Castle films just for the boxes. I don't even care if there's a film inside.

Quote from: Anton Phibes on January 22, 2016, 10:11:31 PM
isnt this kind of like the Topps flip books?

Pretty much. More like an old nickelodeon.

I paid $750 for my loose one 5 years ago, and $1500 for my boxed one. Not sure if those are representative prices, but they seem the right ballpark

Matt

  I agree the Horrorscope is more desirable and better looking with the box.
That said, I am trying to get one loose or boxed, as I have a loose Hulk and MIB Horror House.
  That would give me the Big 3. But, yes 25K is complete insanity, and frankly a bit insulting to the toy itself.

Quote from: Monster Bob on January 21, 2016, 06:26:13 PM
Seller known for totally unrealistic prices.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564 (http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564)

Oh that buffoon again!

::)

 Get this while you can...it is down to 20K!

To me, what makes a Horrorscope a "thing" is the whole package. A MIB unit. The toy itself, look-wise, is pretty boring and yawn-inducing.
The box graphics WITH the toy inside, as seen the old FM ad, is the stuff Vintage Monster dreams are made of. Lots of promise in the shelf-look of a boxed Horrotscope. Much more than tha actual toy could ever possibly deliver. Success!

I'm with Bob on that. What an incredible item....boxed.

I agree. While it was tough for most toys to live up to the advertising hype, the Horrorscope fell far shorter than most.

cl:)

Quote from: Monster Bob on January 21, 2016, 06:26:13 PMSeller known for totally unrealistic prices.

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564 (http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/321982649564)

Is this Item #323853713590 at a B.I.N. of $35,000 on Fleabay the same fellow's listing?

Quote from: tuttle3219 - Ebaythis lot has the "Original" horror scope in great shape and works! comes with 4 movies Frankenstein, Dracula, Creature from the black lagoon and the curse of the werewolf made by Multiple in 1964. ultra rare!

???

The Horrorscope is of course not "rare" let alone ultra rare in that condition by any stretch of the imagination. The definition of "rare" that has been the collecting industry's generally accepted standard for nearly fifty years is from the Overstreet Price Guide:

Quote from: OverstreetRARE - 10-20 copies estimated to exist.

Meanwhile Bill Bruegman of Toy Scouts discovered about a dozen M.I.B. Horrorscopes in a single find back in the late 1980's.

cl:)

Quote from: Hepcat on January 25, 2021, 11:39:22 AM
Is this Item #323853713590 at a B.I.N. of $35,000 on Fleabay the same fellow's listing?

It has the same exact photo, so I'm gonna guess yes!

Where/how did you find a picture from the January 2016 listing? I don't see one previously in this thread and the original links don't work for me anymore.

???

Quote from: Hepcat on January 25, 2021, 03:19:50 PM
Where/how did you find a picture from the January 2016 listing?

Isn't that an old post you're quoting?

No. I'm quoting tuttle3219's current Ebay listing. I suspect that the January 2016 listing which was the original subject of discussion in this thread was also tuttle's but I can't say for sure.

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Quote from: Hepcat on January 25, 2021, 05:53:45 PM
I'm quoting tuttle3219's current Ebay listing.

That's why I was confused. That's usually used to quote an UMA post.