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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: hugohernandez on December 22, 2015, 01:26:44 PM

Title: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: hugohernandez on December 22, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
its cool for sure.   the price is outrageous, in my humble opinion.   Anybody know if what they are saying is true?   Only 2 in existence?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-FRANKENSTEIN-HEAD-HALLOWEEN-LIGHT-GLENN-STRANGE-ONLY-2-KNOWN-TO-EXIST-Rare-/172035795529?hash=item280e21ea49:g:PWsAAOSwCQNWd3ZM (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-FRANKENSTEIN-HEAD-HALLOWEEN-LIGHT-GLENN-STRANGE-ONLY-2-KNOWN-TO-EXIST-Rare-/172035795529?hash=item280e21ea49:g:PWsAAOSwCQNWd3ZM)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Gory Glenn on December 22, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
Wow! That price is crazy!
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monster Bob on December 22, 2015, 02:10:00 PM

Wow. Can you say 'Are you outta your phucking skull?'

She should also add it is the butt-ugliest piece using this particular Strange sculpt.

Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: the_horror_man on December 22, 2015, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: Monster Bob on December 22, 2015, 02:10:00 PM
Wow. Can you say 'Are you outta your phucking skull?'

She should also add it is the butt-ugliest piece using this particular Strange sculpt.

Agreed.

thm
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Hepcat on December 22, 2015, 05:09:40 PM
Quote from: hugohernandez on December 22, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
its cool for sure.   the price is outrageous, in my humble opinion.   Anybody know if what they are saying is true?   Only 2 in existence?

Only two known to exist by whom?

::)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Anton Phibes on December 22, 2015, 05:38:29 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yes, for the price of a nice used car....you can own a scraped up blow mold bucket lamp. No way. Zombie Cool Zombie Cool
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: hugohernandez on December 22, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Hepcat on December 22, 2015, 05:09:40 PM
Only two known to exist by whom?

::)


I thought this forum would know for sure.    I wonder what the other one looks like.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Anton Phibes on December 22, 2015, 05:55:06 PM
Here's the other one. They left it on all night so it has some slight damage. Outta be worth at least 2500 in this shape, surely,lol. ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.rickandlynne.com/lynne/images/blog/IMG_8050.JPG)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: the_horror_man on December 22, 2015, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: Anton Phibes on December 22, 2015, 05:55:06 PM
Here's the other one. They left it on all night so it has some slight damage. Outta be worth at least 2500 in this shape, surely,lol. ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.rickandlynne.com/lynne/images/blog/IMG_8050.JPG)

So does this mean since there is now only 1 in existence, the already greatly inflated price is even doubled? ;D

thm
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: mjaycox on December 23, 2015, 08:33:24 AM
I wanna know where they get the only 2 number. I know if at least 4, including my own

Matt
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: hugohernandez on December 23, 2015, 10:04:33 AM
WHAAAA?   YOU got ONE and you didn't post a pic?   Please post a pic.   is it the thick plastic like the Halloween Bucket?

one pic.    please.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Hepcat on December 23, 2015, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: mjaycox on December 23, 2015, 08:33:24 AMI wanna know where they get the only 2 number. I know if at least 4, including my own.

They're not as smart as you are. In fact they find it convenient to be less smart than most in such cases. "Well I only know of two. You don't really expect me to look for more, do you?"

I have no sympathy whatsoever for sellers who resort to such blatant puffery. None.

>:(
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Mike Scott on December 23, 2015, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: hugohernandez on December 23, 2015, 10:04:33 AM
WHAAAA?   YOU got ONE and you didn't post a pic?   Please post a pic.

He probably has. There' pics around here, somewhere. Probably in a thread with the buckets, or speakers?
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Gory Glenn on December 23, 2015, 01:58:12 PM
As Dicky Roberts would say "That's Nuckin' Futs!"  ;D
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: raycastile on December 23, 2015, 08:16:59 PM
I sent him an offer of $1,500 just to see what would happen. The offer was rejected with no counter-offer. I didn't think there was any danger of having to actually cough up the $1,500 (though I would have honored my bid if it had been accepted). I wanted to see if the seller was serious about the asking price. Apparently, yes. Well, good luck on that.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Hepcat on December 24, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: raycastile on December 23, 2015, 08:16:59 PMI wanted to see if the seller was serious about the asking price. Apparently, yes.

Yes, seriously deluded.

::)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on December 24, 2015, 10:42:17 AM

Well, I have one:

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on September 15, 2008, 04:38:06 PM
This stupid hunk of plastic sold for $635 dollars.

It would have gone for roughly half that, but some darn UMA member decided to bid against me.  Grrrrrr.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2860083303_ae78d4d1d7_b.jpg)

It leans to one side because the warm plastic sagged at the jaw-line.  It probably should have stayed in the mold a little longer or been gently supported while it cooled.  The base and the head are all one piece.

Still, it is the only example I have ever seen.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2860913196_475ea49afc_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2860085051_e4634c20f3_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2860085871_457bc96731_b.jpg)

The top of the head has a circular smooth area in the middle for the cut-out to convert this to a bucket/speaker box.  The area outlined is the same size as the speaker.

Before the Clinton Plastics heads came up in this topic, I had planned to  start a new thread about highly unsual items in our collections.  Since this was brought up before I took these pictures yesterday, I'll ask my question here:

Does anyone else out there have one of these?


http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=2010.msg31747#msg31747 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=2010.msg31747#msg31747)

Mine leans to the side just like the one in the current auction.  They seemed to not cast the same thickness all over and sag under their own weight on the thin side while they were still hot.  Maybe that's why so few exist.  The one on eBay now, is the only other one I have seen for sale.

Would REALLY like to hear from others who have this thing.  Does yours exhibit the same flaw?

Could we try to get a more accurate count of known examples?
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: aura of foreboding on December 24, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
The one in the auction is super ugly... and not in a good way.  Maybe they think all that surface damage tells of a long and battle-tested history.  Maybe you are buying not just the piece, but the history that goes along with it!  Think about that, will ya?   ;D
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Gory Glenn on December 24, 2015, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: aura of foreboding on December 24, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
The one in the auction is super ugly... and not in a good way.  Maybe they think all that surface damage tells of a long and battle-tested history.  Maybe you are buying not just the piece, but the history that goes along with it!  Think about that, will ya?   ;D

It's those damn villagers! They take a toll on a poor monster.  :o
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monster Bob on December 24, 2015, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on December 24, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Mine leans to the side just like the one in the current auction.  They seemed to not cast the same thickness all over and sag under their own weight on the thin side while they were still hot.  Maybe that's why so few exist.  The one on eBay now, is the only other one I have seen for sale.

Would REALLY like to hear from others who have this thing.  Does yours exhibit the same flaw?


Obviously not much thought went into the design of this thing- it doesn't even look good. The base looks like an afterthought, as if the mold got damaged/wore out on the bottom of the head and they just slapped it on a simple base and started up production again.

I am betting the sagging is from the hot light inside over time.

As far as how many of any of these things exist or are "known"- likely more than you'd think. If 99.99% of the millions of people in this country were shown this thing and were told to give it a value, most would say a couple of bucks or less.

I would bet more of these (and other "valuable" old toys) are thrown out as junk than "discovered" by ebay dealers/collectors and eventually find their way into a collection.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: raycastile on December 24, 2015, 04:12:06 PM
I think it's an aesthetically cool piece. The silliness of the bell bottom adds to the coolness. Yes, it looks cobbled together. Like an oddball 60s monster item should.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on December 24, 2015, 04:19:36 PM

I assumed the base was just attached to a head when I bought it.

When it arrived in the mail, I was surprised to see that it is molded as a single piece - base and all.

It is a lousy design for a lighted decoration.  It's too small not to have a vent in the top to let out the heat from a light bulb.  Still, if you could see it in person, I think you'd agree that the sagging occurred during the manufacture of the item.
 
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: raycastile on December 24, 2015, 04:24:54 PM
Maybe it was designed for use with LED lights.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Haunted hearse on December 25, 2015, 08:06:13 PM
Tell him $1,500, and you8'll throw in the other remaining example, so he'll still have one in his collection.
(http://www.rickandlynne.com/lynne/images/blog/IMG_8050.JPG)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: monsterjoe on December 27, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
I was lucky enough to get one of these in a trade about 6 months ago along with a second one with the head open like the normal candy bucket. I also got a pumpkin lamp with the same type of  base in the original box.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on December 27, 2015, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: monsterjoe on December 27, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
I was lucky enough to get one of these in a trade about 6 months ago along with a second one with the head open like the normal candy bucket. I also got a pumpkin lamp with the same type of  base in the original box.

Pictures, Please.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: monsterjoe on December 27, 2015, 06:30:17 PM
(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2225/k7KEsC.jpg)

this is what the open top looks like (This photo is from my archives)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on December 27, 2015, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: monsterjoe on December 27, 2015, 06:30:17 PM
(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2225/k7KEsC.jpg)

this is what the open top looks like (This photo is from my archives)

Does yours lean to one side at all?  Is one side of the bottom thinner than the other?

(That makes pictures of 3 known examples.  Two closed top and one open.)

Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: monsterjoe on December 27, 2015, 09:59:23 PM
Adam
  I have pictures of 6 or 7 different ones saved over the years besides the two I have and I know of at least 3 other collectors that own one, not including yours. The lamp I have is not melted and sits pretty even from side to side. The open head I think was meant to be a candy dish/container as the cord hole was never punched.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: apesman on January 01, 2016, 11:15:36 AM
I messaged and inquired about this piece as well. It's Steve, the sidekick of Jordan from the show Toy Hunter. He wont let it go cheap as he knows its rare. I would have to say there are more than 2 others existing. I would like to own it, but its too much mula to sink into one piece. I got a nice bucket last year, so I'm happy with that for now!
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: jimm on January 01, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
Yes I saw he picked up at a toy show, posted on FB
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monster Bob on January 01, 2016, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: apesman on January 01, 2016, 11:15:36 AM
I messaged and inquired about this piece as well. It's Steve, the sidekick of Jordan from the show Toy Hunter. He wont let it go cheap as he knows its rare. I would have to say there are more than 2 others existing. I would like to own it, but its too much mula to sink into one piece. I got a nice bucket last year, so I'm happy with that for now!
He should stick to smokin' bones and leave the Monsters to us professionals.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on January 01, 2016, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: jimm on January 01, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
Yes I saw he picked up at a toy show, posted on FB

Any idea what he paid?

Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on January 21, 2016, 01:28:04 AM

Wasn't the seller's original B-I-N price $4200.00?

The ending B-I-N price was $3900.00 and the seller accepted a Best Offer.

Sure would like to know what the actual selling price was - just out of curiosity.  EBay used to show final sale price on Best Offer sales, but no more.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: ravenloft on January 22, 2016, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on January 21, 2016, 01:28:04 AM
Wasn't the seller's original B-I-N price $4200.00?

The ending B-I-N price was $3900.00 and the seller accepted a Best Offer.

Sure would like to know what the actual selling price was - just out of curiosity.  EBay used to show final sale price on Best Offer sales, but no more.
Well if he didn't take Ray's offer of 1500 it may well have been North of that, however I am inclined to think that if the seller did any research (especially if he stumbled onto this site) he may have eventually accepted less than that after he couldn't sell it. Or there is the conspiracy option of making a second ebay account to burn, so as to end the auction with a bid offer and make it look like it was sold without it ever actually transferring hands...
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: skully on January 22, 2016, 08:28:34 PM
I believe the listing was supposed to come down on Tuesday the 19th. Since I was watching the piece this is the info that I received from e-bay anyway.  Since the piece "vanished" before the 19th., I believe it was sold, otherwise, it would have been up till then with the auction showing "auction has ended", however the seller may have pulled it, but I think the listing would have still showed something where the auction ended, this is why I really do think it was sold.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: horrorhunter on January 06, 2025, 07:00:47 PM
Here's a Clinton Frankenstein Lamp listed on eBay for $2K.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/286247741285

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~3QAAOSwgptnbxhn/s-l1600.webp)

The top of the head is cut out like a candy bucket (which I don't think was normal with the lamp). Either someone made a candy pail into a lamp, or some weirdness happened at the Clinton factory. The lamp may have had variants with the top of the head cut out, I don't know. It looks like remnants of a handle strap are present. The item was listed as an auction before with a min. bid of $2K and nobody bid.

The only other Clinton Frank Lamp on eBay is the one for $10K that has been for sale for years, I think it was $5K for a while. It's obvious Mr. $10K doesn't really want to sell it and is just flexing. I never understood the value of flexing an item on eBay. A message board, YT video, or toy show makes more sense to flex on...but, eBay?  :laugh:  People don't even know who you are on eBay except rarely.  ::)
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Dr.Terror on January 07, 2025, 01:02:28 AM
Is it just me, or does the lamp have much softer details than the bucket?
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: Monsters For Sale on January 07, 2025, 02:08:36 AM
Someone added a handle.  My lamp does not have a  handle and never did.

Mine has the same detail as the Bucket version.
Title: Re: Frankenstein blowmold lamp
Post by: skully on January 08, 2025, 06:00:03 AM
It could be the way the photo's were taken, but yes, the details do seem a bit softer compared to a regular bucket head.  The few existing lamps that I know of have no handle, and the top of the head is not cut out. I e-mailed the seller and asked about the base to see if it might have been added, He said that it is molded as one piece, no seam or anything like that. He agreed with me also stating that the light hole in the back of the head does look a bit crudely cut. So, a possible mistake at the factory, or, somebody there or outside the factory looking to make a double purpose piece as both a bucket and light. Looking at what remains of the handle though, it looks exactly like the ones put on at the factory from the fasteners at the sides.