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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: Anton Phibes on December 06, 2015, 10:00:24 PM

Title: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: Anton Phibes on December 06, 2015, 10:00:24 PM
Ok--someone take me to school on the hard head AHI monsters. All the figures I have ever had and presently have are "squishy" mego style heads. But recently I have seen a Frankenstein and a Dracula hard head versions. Explain the issue to me if you are enlightened. Meanwhile, Christmas 1979....wow. AHI monsters, a Kenner Alien and some sort of army men set. Oh yeah, and the Star Trek game,lol.

Sooooo----hard heads first issue I take it???? :angel: :angel: I have always thoguht so in the past: but honestly: I really have no idea what year what figure had what exactly. So clarification for my aging brain would be quite refreshing,lol.

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Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: mjaycox on December 06, 2015, 11:03:22 PM
The hard heads are the exact same head sculpt, but slightly smaller and with thicker vinyl.

They don't have Mego-style neck plugs that fit into the bodies-- rather they have sockets that pop onto neck pegs on the torso of the body.

The hard heads are found on the AHI bodies with the palms up (Dracula and Wolfman), Palms down (Frankie), and "One pal up, one folded across chest (mummy)

Matt
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: Anton Phibes on December 06, 2015, 11:20:05 PM
...and were these the first issues of the characters, Matt? Did either Creature have a hard head or were they always squishy? Where do the body color variations start? Third issues? I think the red Dracula, Green Frankie, and solid brown Wolfman are my favorite versions. I like the later Mummy because his bandages stayed white....even though he has no shoes or yellow body,lol.
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: mjaycox on December 07, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
No one-- and I mean no one-- has the definitive answer to that question AP. There is just varying degrees of conjecture about which variant came first

There is a hard head Creature. The narrow waist (female if you will) has a hard head.

One thing generally agreed upon is the versions of the AHIs that came with thumbs up came later. They got progressively more primitive as time went on, and Ahi was dropped from the packaging altogether for reasons unknown
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: mjaycox on December 07, 2015, 05:57:40 PM
Hard head Creature, btw, is the only Ahi monster sculpt that doesn't have an Aurora progenitor
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: darkmonkeygod on December 07, 2015, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: mjaycox on December 07, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
No one-- and I mean no one-- has the definitive answer to that question AP. There is just varying degrees of conjecture about which variant came first

I sure do hold out hope that someday someone will be able to answer it, but as the years (decades!!) roll on it gets less and less likely.

QuoteHard head Creature, btw, is the only Ahi monster sculpt that doesn't have an Aurora progenitor

And is also the version that has never turned up in any of the wholesale material that I know of. All of the monsters have a thin waist version, and all of those that I've ever seen are the hard head/peg on torso construction. Is that your experience too?


Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: Anton Phibes on December 15, 2015, 12:24:59 AM
Here's a question or two:

1. Clothes: no matter how minty the figure's condition: the clothes always seems remarkably fragile. Does anyone else find this the case?

2. Anyone ever get a figure, remove the clothes to check the body's condition and discover: different colored limbs under the clothes? I have a Dracula that is entirely red except for the biceps on both arms. They are the pale flesh tone. Which is totally bizarre to me. Seeings as me and one other fellow are the only 2 folks ever to own it....so I know it was done in production. Seems like these (as great as they are) were a serious hodge podge of parts lunacy. :angel:
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on December 17, 2015, 06:17:17 AM
There's nothing I can add to the table of knowledge but that was an awesome Christmas.
I can tell you had the late line since Creature is no longer on the boxes.
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: Wich2 on December 17, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
I can personally attest to another obvious fact, too:

Like vintage Joes, a (larger) Softhead can become a (smaller) Hardhead over time.

My first-issue Monster, from right out of the wire rack at TG&Y, has done that over the ensuing 40 years!

Merriest,
-Craig
Title: Re: AHI MONSTERS: HARD HEAD, SOFT HEAD, ETC,
Post by: darkmonkeygod on December 17, 2015, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: Wich2 on December 17, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
I can personally attest to another obvious fact, too:

Like vintage Joes, a (larger) Softhead can become a (smaller) Hardhead over time.

My first-issue Monster, from right out of the wire rack at TG&Y, has done that over the ensuing 40 years!

Merriest,
-Craig

Do your first issue figures have plugs on the head that are pushed into the body to assemble them, or a peg on the body that inserts into a hole in the neck base?