I was surprised to find this artwork in a 1974 Monsters of the Movies magazine. It looks just like the Ray Ferry Artwork for Frankenstein Binder.
I thought the Ray Ferry Binders Art was original to him. Where did this illustration (B & W) originally come from? And does that mean all the Ferry Binders are old art?
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m635/huedez/IMG_2426_zps62wv68qm.jpg) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/huedez/media/IMG_2426_zps62wv68qm.jpg.html)
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m635/huedez/monsters_zps5f8b1f45.jpg) (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/huedez/media/monsters_zps5f8b1f45.jpg.html)
The WM is swiped from the Aurora box. The other are swiped from the SPP wallets.
Aurora box? which one? SPP wallets? Help me out here, I need more specifically info.
WOW. I never realized that was the box art for the tall long box. I always thought in my mind the tall box art was more like the 65 FM fearbook.
you mentioned the wallets, I have some of the Ferry Wallets (shame on me), that art was shared for the binders but was if lifted from somewhere else? Or was that painted for Ray Ferry during his reign?
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 28, 2015, 12:53:29 PM
Aurora box? which one? SPP wallets? Help me out here, I need more specifically info.
The Frankenstein and Wolf Man binders were lifted from the Aurora boxes. The other Ferry binders were lifted from the 1960s Standard Plastics Products (SPP) wallets. They were all repainted, but very much copied from those sources.
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1492)
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1488)
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1557)
(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1029)
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 28, 2015, 12:12:17 PM
I thought the Ray Ferry Binders Art was original to him.
Nothing Ray Ferry did was original! ;D
Yeah, RF made a career of appropriating other people's work. That character still owes me the money for a years subscription to his version of FM that he never delivered on during the legal dispute. And, he pals around with the nicest people. Anybody remember Teachbug? ::)
I agree, he ripped off the poses from the boxes and wallets but it looks like they were painted for his rip-offed products. So he must have hired artists to work for his publication. and then never paid them. lol.
I am ashamed to say I have all his Binders and some of his wallets.
but I bought them not knowing what a low life slime ball he was. it wasn't until later, I think here, that I began to notice comments and people would spit on the sidewalk after mentioning his name.
Here's the art Ferry used for his chintzy wallets. I got this untrimmed sheet at a Swap Meet years ago. It turns out that Ferry had a lot of stuff in storage and didn't pay the bill, so the locker was auctioned off.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c346/JimBertges/Miscellaneous/walletart.jpg)
Ferry might be a dirt bag, but I would love to have all those wallets, the art work is amazing. except for creature. what the hell, botox gone bad, no more watching the Kardashians.
sheesh.
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 28, 2015, 12:53:29 PMAurora box? which one?
The original Aurora Frankenstein model kit is probably the most iconic monster toy of them all! Have you not read through this thread?
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg213181#msg213181 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg213181#msg213181)
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 28, 2015, 12:53:29 PMSPP wallets? Help me out here, I need more specifically info.
The SPP monster wallets have an iconic status in monsterdom that is arguably below only the Aurora monster model kits! They've been the subject of much discussion on this board. Have you never seen these threads?
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9545.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9545.0)
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=17259.msg274490#msg274490 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=17259.msg274490#msg274490)
???
nope, never saw those threads. And i have the long box frankenstein right on my dresser, displayed and yet I didn't recognize the art when I saw it on the black and white ad OR the Ferry binder.
thanks for the links, I will check them out when I have some leisure time.
right now I am thumbing thru old issues of FM looking for the Elwar buttons.
>I agree, he ripped off ... So he must have hired artists to work for his publication.<
Hugo, have you ever heard of "Arlis"? That seems to be the main artist that Ferry - er - "hires."
-Craig
Quote from: Wich2 on November 28, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
>I agree, he ripped off ... So he must have hired artists to work for his publication.<
Hugo, have you ever heard of "Arlis"? That seems to be the main artist that Ferry - er - "hires."
-Craig
He barely qualified as an artist imo. The covers for FM when he was in charge were of poor quality to say the least.
JP
Craig is having a little fun with you guys. "Arlis" is an alias Ferry uses when he photoshops art for his mag covers. He probably made the name up by taking the word "alias" and adding and dropping a letter. Imagination is not his strongsuit, except maybe in planning a good con. Like Mike said, RF swipes everything and then twists it to make a buck.
And yeah, I can believe Ferry failed to pay storage unit rent. He's just that kinda guy.
Also, I confess that I have several of the FM things RF was responsible for, including his FM issues, 3 of the wallets, pinback buttons, etc. Even though the guy's a turd, that stuff is part of monster collecting history, and so it has a place in my collection. His FM was a pale shadow of the Warren FM, but I wanted the entire run so I picked them up, mostly new. I tell you one thing, though, I never gave high prices for any of them as back issues like that Teachbug clown was scamming people with. He was selling some of those for hundreds of dollars each to some poor deluded "collectors". I even bought the first 14 issues of Freaky Monsters until I finally had to tap out simply because I couldn't stand to deal with the guy anymore. Even keeping up with monster history as an obsessive collector has it's limits after putting up with so much crap from that guy and his cohorts.
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 28, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
...except for creature. what the hell, ...
Photoshop job using the face of Marvel's Manphibian character as drawn by Neal Adams (and created by Creature fan Dave Cockrum as a tribute of sorts to ole' Gil).
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on November 28, 2015, 10:40:04 PM
Photoshop job using the face of Marvel's Manphibian character as drawn by Neal Adams
Steal from the best, I always say! ;D
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070225173544/marveldatabase/images/6/6a/Manphibian_(Earth-616).jpg)
Quote from: Wich2 on November 28, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
>I agree, he ripped off ... So he must have hired artists to work for his publication.<
Hugo, have you ever heard of "Arlis"? That seems to be the main artist that Ferry - er - "hires."
-Craig
Now I do remember seeing the name Arlis on the inside flap. I actually have some of the better covers Arlis did for RF's FM. The Bela Lugosi close up comes to mind.
"covers Arlis did for RF's FM"
Hugo:
Arlis IS RF!
>Steal from the best, I always say!<
Mike, that's not the only time Ferry got up in Neal's bidness:
(http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/86a258dc46c9bce9bb927f80541bed599c7e53c.jpg)
I remember meeting Ray Ferry just once, and taking an instant disliking to him. I tried to warn Forry at the time, telling him, "He just doesn't seem trustworthy to me. Watch out for him." If only I had known...
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hey Wich2, are we sure its really Ray Ferry? and are the covers really photoshopped? I know photoshop, having worked with it and back then, there weren't that many filters to completely change the look.
I am thinking of FM #30 and the Ray Ferry cover of #234. same pose and almost the same artwork, but of course, different colors, shading etc.
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 06:30:52 PM
hey Wich2, are we sure its really Ray Ferry?
I think "Arlis" came along later. I think he had some actual artists working for him in the early days.
I agree about an actual artist working for RF.
some of the artwork just seems to real to be photoshopped.
Gents, I didn't say Ferry NEVER used other artists; other writers, too - until he burned them out. But check this post, and the surrounding thread. Facts are facts:
http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/sreply/901887/FREAKY-MONSTERS-13 (http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/sreply/901887/FREAKY-MONSTERS-13)
And there they are - presented by an artist who knows what he's talking about.
Happy Holidays,
-Craig
Quote from: Wich2 on November 30, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
Gents, I didn't say Ferry NEVER used other artists;
-Craig
That's what I just said.
Quote from: Wich2 on November 30, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
Gents, I didn't say Ferry NEVER used other artists; other writers, too - until he burned them out. But check this post, and the surrounding thread. Facts are facts:
http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/sreply/901887/FREAKY-MONSTERS-13 (http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/sreply/901887/FREAKY-MONSTERS-13)
And there they are - presented by an artist who knows what he's talking about.
Happy Holidays,
-Craig
Thanks for the link, Craig. yup, the older art shines in comparison to the Ferry Covers. Shame on him. Or worse.
Back when Teachbug came over and annoyed everyone to their wits end, I took an old FM cover, ran it thru a half dozen filters, played with the color saturation and tints and showed everyone how easy it was to do an "Arlis" cover. But my photobucket account is gone now, and the thread is ancient. But its easily done.
It astounds me how Freaky Monsters, a pale imitation of Forry's mag, with its sordid history due to its owner managed to hang around as long as it did....but Undying Monsters ended so quickly. There is no justice in this world I tell ya,lol. :angel:
Quote from: Anton Phibes on November 30, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
It astounds me how Freaky Monsters, with its sordid history due to its owner managed to hang around as long as it did....
So, it's gone? I haven't been paying attention.
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 30, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
So, it's gone? I haven't been paying attention.
I havent seen a new issue on stands in quite awhile. I assumed it gasped its last breath and gave up the ghost. I could be wrong. :angel:
Quote from: Anton Phibes on November 30, 2015, 02:30:42 PM
I havent seen a new issue on stands in quite awhile.
Their website says #24 just came out this month. I don't imagine they have any distribution. You probably have to buy from their site.
Oh. then they may as well be outta business if they have no distribution to speak of,lol. >:D
I can't stand the name Freaky Monsters. It sounds like someone (RF) just pulled the name out of his arse. I wouldn't buy it just for that reason alone. Glad it's dead.
JP
>Thanks for the link, Craig.<
'Welcome, Hugo.
>I can't stand the name Freaky Monsters.<
When he lost the REAL "FM," he first said his new mag would be called SHOCK THEATER CLASSICS; that would have been an adult choice. To change to another "FM" was just about as childish a move as one could make.
-Craig
I almost want to throw out my Ray Ferry Famous Monsters issues. now that I know what a charlatan he is and how he cheated on those FM covers.
But I am definitely keeping the Binders, there is none of his text or opinion on those.
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 29, 2015, 09:54:25 PMsome of the artwork just seems to real to be photoshopped.
I've heard that Ray Ferry had substantial experience in computer graphics and was quite good in that area anyway.
:-\
Quote from: Wolfman on November 30, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
I can't stand the name Freaky Monsters. It sounds like someone (RF) just pulled the name out of his arse. I wouldn't buy it just for that reason alone. Glad it's dead.
JP
I'll admit to owning a few Ferry publications, but I hate the name too. I was often misunderstood for liking monsters & imagi-movies as a kid, & the "Freaky" handle doesn't promote our magical obsession in the slightest.
He is the only real freak. in fact, Ray Ferry put the "freak" in Freaky Monsters.
although I must confess, back in the 80's, there was a show called Freaky Films. Kind of like Creature Features, Freaky Films opened with a cool montage of monsters I was unfamiliar with. And the intro music was so scary for me. I later found out the intro music was taken from the first Planet of the Apes movie.
Freaky Films was most excellent and I remember seeing The Gorgon for the first time. also in that montage was the monster from Frankenstein vs. the Space Monster, which I found him to be quite frightening.
Never did see that movie.