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Cinematic Creeps => Modern Monster Movies => Topic started by: AlwaysWitty on September 28, 2014, 09:35:40 AM

Title: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: AlwaysWitty on September 28, 2014, 09:35:40 AM
Some storyboards were released from everyone's favorite trainwreck, Van Helsing, that introduce the titular Creature from the Black Lagoon inside Castle Dracula. Check them out here: http://bit.ly/1CxI1n0 (http://bit.ly/1CxI1n0)

Also interesting to note is that Anna's name was Mina and Frankenstein's Monster looked much more traditional. It may also have been more violent, as it seems Igor gets decapitated or something by the Gill-Man.

To think they almost wrecked him too. I can only imagine the horrible CGI Gill-Man they would have come up with.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Mike Scott on September 28, 2014, 10:54:01 AM
"Thus, Gill-Man's transmogrification begins..."

Whoo boy! Are we all glad we missed out on this!
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Mord on September 28, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
 I wonder if they would have given him dreadlocks & the power to sing (like that Universal Studios musical we all love).
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Count_Zirock on September 28, 2014, 01:27:42 PM
It was bad enough that they took a big, steaming dump on the top three classic monsters. Gill-Man would have just been too much to endure. Granted, the upcoming "Black Lagoon" might be even worse!

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Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: jerod on September 28, 2014, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: Count_Zirock on September 28, 2014, 01:27:42 PM
It was bad enough that they took a big, steaming dump on the top three classic monsters. Gill-Man would have just been too much to endure. Granted, the upcoming "Black Lagoon" might be even worse!

Not the best movie of all time, but I don't feel it was as bad as most seem to think. I'm all for tradition, but Lugosi, Karloff, and Chaney have all been dead for almost my entire life. Exact copies of their classic roles could never be replicated and I'm honestly glad Universal didn't try. I will admit though the VH Frankenstein monster is a bit too re-imagined for my taste.

Creature may have been fun to see, in the end would have just added more kindling to the fire as his appearance in the artwork is weak.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Anton Phibes on September 28, 2014, 10:34:07 PM
(http://dallaspenn.com/pics/albums/album01/feces2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Twiddle on September 29, 2014, 12:38:27 AM
I actually enjoy Van Helsing. It's a fun movie, despite lacking what made the classics so great.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: scott_of_smeg on September 29, 2014, 07:29:03 AM
The only thing I liked about van helping was the set design
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Anton Phibes on September 29, 2014, 08:30:07 AM
Van Helsing is an ok thing. But Tadpole Craeture with tail intact is ridiculous. Why does Hollywood feel this constant desire to re-invent the wheel? :angel:
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: AlwaysWitty on September 29, 2014, 09:11:38 AM
I still find it strange how many things they manage to get right compared to what they're doing nowadays, though. Count Dracula is still pure evil, and he's not whining about how much it sucks to be a vampire or falling in love with the reincarnation of his wife. Frankenstein's Monster still looks like a Monster and not just some hobo. No one sparkles. There's still some element of Gothic imagery and period setting, instead of setting it in modern suburbia.

All the sadder that they managed to botch all the other stuff that they botched. I can't help but think that with a decent rewrite and a better director, it could have been great.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: zombiehorror on September 29, 2014, 06:11:44 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 28, 2014, 10:54:01 AM
"Thus, Gill-Man's transmogrification begins..."

Whoo boy! Are we all glad we missed out on this!

As someone points out in the comments, the Gill-Man would not have "transmogrified"; his claw is seen reaching down and lifting Renfield(?) up out of frame, then he is seen carrying his decapitated head a few frames later.

Oh, just to clarify I am in no way defending anything about this abysmal movie.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Haunted hearse on September 30, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
I was honestly annoyed they left out one monster from this film who truly belonged.  Having the Ro-man from "Robot Monster" (1953) would have elevated the film by bringing an Extraterrestrial element into this work of cinema.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Mord on September 30, 2014, 10:06:57 AM
Quote from: Haunted hearse on September 30, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
I was honestly annoyed they left out one monster from this film who truly belonged.  Having the Ro-man from "Robot Monster" (1953) would have elevated the film by bringing an Extraterrestrial element into this work of cinema.
Certainly the Robot Monster would be the most realistic looking monster in that CGI mess.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: jerod on September 30, 2014, 04:41:22 PM
Perhaps this would have went over better?:

(http://superherouniverse.com/art/data/794/VH_v_Universal2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: josezombiekillr on September 30, 2014, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: Twiddle on September 29, 2014, 12:38:27 AM
I actually enjoy Van Helsing. It's a fun movie, despite lacking what made the classics so great.
I'm glad I'm not the only one out there who enjoys this movie.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: godzilla2014 on September 30, 2014, 11:53:10 PM
It would have been cool to see the fight between him and Frankenstein's monster!
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Phantom Stranger on October 16, 2014, 11:00:23 AM
While it's not a favorite of mine, I didn't HATE 'Van Helsing' . It was just overblown like most modern horror/monster movies. But Kate Beckinsale was hot, and the set design was good.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: GeekDragon on October 30, 2014, 01:35:29 PM
I think this is a fun popcorn movie.  I enjoyed it.  Is it up there with the classics?  No.  It's just a fun action flick.  Would the creature add anything to this movie?  Probably not.  For me, the creature or the mummy does not fit in with the rest.  Glad the creature wasn't part of this movie.
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Hepcat on October 30, 2014, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: Twiddle on September 29, 2014, 12:38:27 AMI actually enjoy Van Helsing. It's a fun movie, despite lacking what made the classics so great.

I agree! Although by the same token I'm glad that the Creature was not included as his appearance would have required extremely contrived plotting.

cl:)
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Mord on October 30, 2014, 05:06:11 PM
Quote from: Hepcat on October 30, 2014, 04:14:06 PM
I agree! Although by the same token I'm glad that the Creature was not included as his appearance would have required extremely contrived plotting.

cl:)
It wasn't already?
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Hepcat on October 30, 2014, 05:21:42 PM
Well at least all the characters utilized in the movie fit into East Central Europe. But the Creature? Not at all.

cl:)
Title: Re: Gill-Man was almost in "Van Helsing"
Post by: Mord on October 30, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: Hepcat on October 30, 2014, 05:21:42 PM
Well at least all the characters utilized in the movie fit into East Central Europe. But the Creature? Not at all.

cl:)
They could have called him "The Creature from the Black Moat" & put him outside Castle Dracula.