Who's ready for another season of zombie fun? Hope they don't kill off half the cast on the first show!
I got my snacks for Sunday night.
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It's actually the 2nd half of Season 4....but that's neither here nor there! The Walking Dead is back!
Can't wait! I will miss the Governor (one of the best villains in recent memory), but am looking forward to what awaits.
Quote from: zombiehorror on February 07, 2014, 09:53:20 PM
It's actually the 2nd half of Season 4....
D'Oh! All these split seasons confuse me! I changed it to 4.5. :D
Quote from: Mike Scott on February 07, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
Who's ready for another season of zombie fun? Hope they don't kill off half the cast on the first show!
I got my snacks for Sunday night.
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Righto, Mike! This is one of the very few shows I really look forward to. BRING ON THE DEAD!...and hopefully some new female hottie cast members. ;) >:D
YES! And right on the heels of American Horror Story ending. Been enjoying the marathon off and on all weekend. Perfect way to break the cabin fever of being snowed in so much this Winter!
Watching "the Governor episode" right now. He was a fun villain that they milked for all he was worth and then some. Felt good when that psycho bastard finally got his. Just killing time watching Dead reruns and UMAing until 9:00 when the new episode rears it's horrific head. Zombie Cool
Good episode. We got more insight into Michonne's ravaged psyche, and the ever evolving relationship between Carl and his Dad. Man, teenage rebellion in a zombie apocalypse can be harsh! Thank goodness there was pudding. ;D
Haven't watched it yet but I saw on Facebook that they did another "celebrity zombie" tonight! They previously did a nod to the plaid zombie from Dawn of the Dead; from what I know this was the only other one they've done!!
I won't spoil the celeb zombie from tonight's episode but I'm sure it is already all over the net.
Quote from: zombiehorror on February 09, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
I won't spoil the celeb zombie from tonight's episode but I'm sure it is already all over the net.
Saw the episode but didn't know about the celeb zombie. Probably wouldn't have caught it anyway.
Good episode! I won't spoil it, but they had me going there, for a second, about what
almost happened to a certain someone! ;D
Carl & Michonne go total badass!! Okay, who was the celeb zombie?
Celebrity zombie SPOILERS!!Quote from: Mord on February 10, 2014, 09:45:28 AM
Okay, who was the celeb zombie?
Jack from American Werewolf in London!
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American Werewolf in London
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I had caught the flannel zombie from Dawn of the Dead on a previous episode~
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Dawn of the Dead
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But there were others as well; apparently Greg Nicotero hid a replica of Ben Gardner's head from Jaws among the Governor's trophy zombie heads! And Flyboy from Dawn of the Dead was also recreated for an episode!!
The Walking Dead, I believe the Ben Gardner head is the 3rd head in-in front of Michonne!
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Jaws
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Dawn of the Dead, Stephen (aka Flyboy)
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Wow, I've gotta pay closer attention from now on. Thanks, ZH.
Great zombie detective work, zombiehorror! Zombie Cool
This is a good example of why we love UMA.
I think it would be great if they had some of Romero's actors appear in a few cameos,either as zombies or characters.That would be a classy thing for Nicotero to do. :'(
Great to have The Walking Dead back!! It was actually in the low 60s last night, so Nancy and I watched it on the flat screen TV by the pool. Every time a boat went by on the canal or a twig cracked outside, I was ready to jump up and kick zombie arse!
I have it saved on my DVR to watch tonight. It's supposed to snow and drop down to the negatives! I guess I'll be stuck drinking beer, lighting the fireplace, painting my alien model, and watching The Walking Dead. Life is rough ;)
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Seems more people watched WALKING DEAD than watched the olympics during that time slot. The monsters got the gold viewing wise. ;D
Just watched the new episode. I thought it was pretty good, but I still can't Stand Carl. He definitely should go visit Andrea.
Quote from: BigShadow on February 11, 2014, 10:03:24 PM
Just watched the new episode. I thought it was pretty good, but I still can't Stand Carl. He definitely should go visit Andrea.
They won't kill Carl off as they're too glued to the comic book storyline. ::) I just hope they don't kill Beth off,she's easy on the eye. :D
Quote from: Dr.Cyclops on February 12, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
They won't kill Carl off as they're too glued to the comic book storyline.
They are!? I just read the first 48 issues of The Walking Dead and although basic outline is the same, character/story arcs are pretty different! If the show goes on long enough they'll definitely run into an age/looks difference with Carl, unless they are willing to advance the story into a new year every season.......meaning, Carl must die! LOL!
If Carl's character in the show is supposed to be annoying, he's doing a good job.
If they are not going to kill him off, at least have him QUIT wearing that deputy hat!
It should'nt fit him anyways. Either he has a big head or Rick is a pin head.
Besides, if he disrespects his dad as much as does then he should throw it in the corner.
Still a great show and I like the new venue. Regular neighborhoods with zombies seem scarier.
A few more "celebrity zombies" although these are more homages than recreations of the original characters!
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I'm REALLY gonna have to watch a whole lot closer. Good catch!
It moves along so fast I can't imagine catching all the homages to zombies past.
This episode reminded me how hot Lauren Cohan is. Zombie In Luv
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Quote from: horrorhunter on February 16, 2014, 10:26:39 PM
This episode reminded me how hot Lauren Cohan is. Zombie In Luv
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I would let her be my girlfriend during the zombie apocalypse!
If I were a zombie, she would be my main meal.
What did you all think of last Sunday's episode? I thought it was a terrific, emotionally powerhouse episode. Easily the best of the second half of season 4, and maybe the best of the entire season. Extremely well acted by the adults and the kids.
Quote from: bromstaker on March 19, 2014, 12:43:18 PM
What did you all think of last Sunday's episode?
A real shocker! Never would have seen that coming! The episode was everything you said and I think I agree the best, so far.
Really weird season, with all the mini groups, each getting an episode in turn. Hope they all find each other at the end (of the line?).
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 19, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
Really weird season, with all the mini groups, each getting an episode in turn. Hope they all find each other at the end (of the line?).
I'm sure that will be the big finale in a week and a half. BTW, that little blonde girl was creepier than any zombie on the show.
Yeah, the older of the two sisters was indeed creepy! I saw the killing of her sister at her hands a mile away.............but it still had shock value. I hope they all find each other at Terminus soon. I'd like to get back to seeing the group as a whole interacting again.
Quote from: Mord on March 19, 2014, 05:34:28 PM
BTW, that little blonde girl was creepier than any zombie on the show.
No doubt!
Add Bub (Day of the Dead) to the list of celebrity zombies.
Quote from: zombiehorror on March 24, 2014, 10:16:02 PM
Add Bub (Day of the Dead) to the list of celebrity zombies.
Right...I caught that, too! Thought it was just a coincidence at first.
I keep waiting for either Glenn or Maggie to die, but they keep on going on together.
I like them both, they have defied the odds having such positive relationship in the midst of such horror.
Terminus is definitely too good to be true. Anybody else catch the weird re programming voices in the previews?
A friend of mine pointed out the group Darryl is in, is the same group that fought each other in the house when Rick was hiding under the bed. I didn't catch this, anyone else?
Quote from: BaronLatos35 on March 28, 2014, 07:34:31 AM
A friend of mine pointed out the group Darryl is in, is the same group that fought each other in the house when Rick was hiding under the bed. I didn't catch this, anyone else?
The one guy tell Darryl what happened at the house.
Quote from: BaronLatos35 on March 28, 2014, 07:34:31 AM
Terminus is definitely too good to be true.
I think they're a suicide cult. Tired of the zombie apocalypse, come to Terminus for your release!
Notice how there was no security around Terminus? They just walked right in. Why wasn't the place overrun with zombies? Just none in the neighborhood?
Pretty sure maggie won't see another season. Burning her picture and telling Glen he did'nt need because he has her now jinxed her surving the finale.
If Carl does'nt get killed, I hope at least a walker eats the deputy hat! I find him wearing it is very annoying for some reason.
Quote from: Jethro on March 28, 2014, 12:50:47 PM
Pretty sure maggie won't see another season.
If Carl does'nt get killed . .
The way they kill off regulars on this series, you may get your with!
Definetly not my wish. I like the Maggie character and i hope she sticks around.
Quote from: Jethro on March 28, 2014, 01:08:24 PM
Definetly not my wish.
Sorry! Sounded like you had her name in a pool. ;D
Quote from: Jethro on March 28, 2014, 01:08:24 PM
Definetly not my wish. I like the Maggie character and i hope she sticks around.
Maggie is the hottest girl on the show. If they knock her off, I'll have to switch to Darryl.
Maggie is good rooking American Movie Star, "she steams up my grasses". For those who do not know what my quote was, you need to watch more Gilligan's Island.
Yes she is the hottest girl on the show Mord, if not the hottest on most shows these days.
Quote from: Jethro on March 28, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
Maggie is good rooking American Movie Star, "she steams up my grasses". For those who do not know what my quote was, you need to watch more Gilligan's Island.
Yes she is the hottest girl on the show Mord, if not the hottest on most shows these days.
You're preachin' to the choir, brother. I love her sexy Aussie accent, too.
And another thing! Why is everybody walking everywhere this season? Did they run out of abandoned cars? Only Beth seemed to come up with one, the last time we saw her.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 28, 2014, 08:06:18 PM
And another thing! Why is everybody walking everywhere this season? Did they run out of abandoned cars? Only Beth seemed to come up with one, the last time we saw her.
They are probably trying to be more cautious about the environment. Wouldn't want to add pollution to their woes.
I assume they are foregoing automobiles because they are all following the railroad tracks, it'd be a pretty bumpy ride.
Andrew Lincoln is going to be on the Talking Dead this week.....that's like wearing a red shirt on a Star Trek away mission. I hope they don't kill him off.
Quote from: Scatter on March 29, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
Andrew Lincoln is going to be on the Talking Dead this week.....that's like wearing a red shirt on a Star Trek away mission. I hope they don't kill him off.
I'm not sure there ready to go that far yet. I didn't think I'd ever see sparkly vampires, either.
Quote from: Scatter on March 29, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
Andrew Lincoln is going to be on the Talking Dead this week.....that's like wearing a red shirt on a Star Trek away mission.
All of the main cast has been on TD. Some multiple times.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 29, 2014, 09:38:04 AM
All of the main cast has been on TD. Some multiple times.
I know. I've seen them all. And one of those visits is usually post mortem.
I have visions of post decapitation Herschel on that couch.
Quote from: Mord on March 28, 2014, 07:59:49 PM
You're preachin' to the choir, brother. I love her sexy Aussie accent, too.
Lauren Cohan (Maggie) was born in the U.S., but spent part of her childhood in the U.K. Gorgeous lady.
Quote from: bromstaker on March 30, 2014, 01:16:45 PM
Lauren Cohan (Maggie) was born in the U.S., but spent part of her childhood in the U.K. Gorgeous lady.
Oops, I thought I had heard she was Australian. Oh well, she can be from a hole in the ground for all I care. The lady has class & beauty to spare.
If you haven't seen the season finale, read at your own risk!
I knew them Terminus people were up to no good! Though I still don't know what it is they are up to! Anybody have a guess?
So, who didn't we see in the finale? Beth, Tyreese, Carol. Who else isn't in the railroad car?
Wow, Rick really channeled his inner-Shane in this one!
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 30, 2014, 10:54:25 PM
If you haven't seen the season finale, read at your own risk!
I knew them Terminus people were up to no good! Though I still don't know what it is they are up to! Anybody have a guess?
So, who didn't we see in the finale? Beth, Tyreese, Carol. Who else isn't in the railroad car?
CANNIBALS. \m/
1) The creepy lady grilling the surplus of meat for everyone
2) Instead of killing Rick and the crew they coralled them like cattle and steered them with gunfire exactly where they wanted them to go
3) The giant cage full of bloody, stripped skeletons
4) And don't forget their motto! "We First..Always"
All of which sums up why Terminus appears a ghost town instead of the booming safe haven most assumed.
Quote from: RAGMAN on March 31, 2014, 06:40:05 AM
3) The giant cage full of bloody, stripped skeletons
How did I miss this? (Or did I?) Remind me of where this was.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 31, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
How did I miss this? (Or did I?) Remind me of where this was.
They pass it as they're being led through the buildings, towards the train car.
Quote from: RAGMAN on March 31, 2014, 09:03:50 AM
They pass it as they're being led through the buildings, towards the train car.
Thanks! I'll have to catch a rerun and see it.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 31, 2014, 09:15:14 AM
Thanks! I'll have to catch a rerun and see it.
No problem! It was a fantastic episode and I'll definitely be watching it again.
Aside from the maddening amount of commercials, it was one of my favorite episodes. Love the renewed & and totally pissed Rick! I could watch the scene where they take out the gang of low life red neck psychopaths over and over...BRILLIANT!
Just watched the season finale...great episode. It looks to me like the Terminus residents are a religious cult as well as cannibals, what with all the candles and the term 'salvation'. Looking forward to seeing them get out of this latest pickle!
My missus noticed that in the final shot when Rick looks at the camera a shadow was cast over his eye which looked like he was wearing an eye patch...just like our friendly neighbourhood governer!
Quote from: long live kong on March 31, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
My missus noticed that in the final shot when Rick looks at the camera a shadow was cast over his eye which looked like he was wearing an eye patch...just like our friendly neighbourhood governer!
I hope that wasn't on purpose! :laugh:
As time passes, the humans on this show become more scary & creepy than any zombie could ever be (just like in the Romero films).
Quote from: Mord on March 31, 2014, 06:59:28 PM
As time passes, the humans on this show become more scary & creepy than any zombie could ever be (just like in the Romero films).
Just like in real life.
Looks like Carol and Tyrese are gonna be the ones to save everyone. This was a great episode! Could have done without the flashbacks.
Right, I thought the flashbacks were uneccesary filler.
I thought is was a good episode but I thought it came on strong, that being the road side scene where Joe and his degenerates were killed off, and tapered off to everyone ending up in the box car.
Definetly not a "cliff hanger" for a season finale.
I liked the finale. They are definitely cannibals. I can see the cult aspect, I was wondering what that circular temple could be with the names on the floor. I thought it was a memorial to their dead.
The lady was cooking up steaks like they came back from Giant.
What happened to Beth? She got snatched up and was GONE. A buddy of mine said she was on the grill.
Cutty from The Wire and Carol hopefully are coming down the bend.
Rick did what any parent would do if their child was threatened, especially in that manner, in that circumstance. I think he realized that and was comfortable with it, therefore he could see clearly and lead again.
Looking forward to October.
I enjoyed the flashbacks as it was good to see Hershel (the excellent Scott Wilson) again. Those scenes depicting how Rick became farmer Rick were meant to provide contrast with the scene where Rick becomes savage Rick to save Carl, Michonne and Daryl. Rick did just what I was hoping he would do to that fat b*stard who tried to rape Carl - gutted him like the pig he was then slashed him to pieces.
Quote from: bromstaker on April 01, 2014, 06:26:54 PM
I enjoyed the flashbacks as it was good to see Hershel (the excellent Scott Wilson) again. Those scenes depicting how Rick became farmer Rick were meant to provide contrast with the scene where Rick becomes savage Rick to save Carl, Michonne and Daryl.
Agreed, bromstaker! It
was great to see Hershel, again and those scenes were an integral part of the episode!
I watched the finale over again and agree now the flash backs were an integral part of the this episode.
In saying that, I would have liked to have seen it expanded into an hour and a half or two hour finale.
And I believe they could have made it more of a "cliff hanger" than what they did, still a great show.
Quote from: Jethro on April 03, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
And I believe they could have made it more of a "cliff hanger" than what they did, still a great show.
I hate season ending cliff hangers, 'cause you have to wait so long to find out what happens, so this one wasn't so bad.
Very strong episode! Blown away by Raptor Rick!! Hating the thought of waiting until freaking October for next season to start. But then, all good things come in October!
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 03, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
I hate season ending cliff hangers, 'cause you have to wait so long to find out what happens, so this one wasn't so bad.
Yeah, season cliff hangers never come off feeling real. They always seem to be written to sell the following season rather than a natural plot development.
Well this cliffhanger definitely sold me on wanting to see the next season. What a weird place Terminus was.
Quote from: BigShadow on April 03, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
What a weird place Terminus was.
That's the
real cliffhanger! Not "what's gonna happen to our heroes", but "what's the deal with the creepy Terminus people!"
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 03, 2014, 05:29:27 PM
That's the real cliffhanger! Not "what's gonna happen to our heroes", but "what's the deal with the creepy Terminus people!"
That's exactly what I meant, not an ending with someone holding a gun to Rick about to pull the trigger...fade to black, wait till fall.
Greg Nicotero revealed (on the Talking Dead) that there was another "celebrity" zombie on last nights episode of TWD.
Quote from: zombiehorror on February 09, 2015, 09:12:29 AM
Greg Nicotero revealed (on the Talking Dead) that there was another "celebrity" zombie on last nights episode of TWD.
Yep, I loved the tribute to Cushing. Speaking of classic zombies, there was a shooting in the Monroeville Mall in Pittsburgh yesterday. That was the mall used in the original "Dawn of the Dead".
What do you all think of TWD season 5 thus far?
Quote from: bromstaker on March 12, 2015, 12:21:35 PM
What do you all think of TWD season 5 thus far?
I don't know about you, but it's really starting to bore me. Maybe they're spending too much time on the spin-off that premieres this summer. The show has come to a standstill recently. What do you think?
I've been coming to the realization that the concept doesn't work in the long term. Because the walkers are now rotted corpses but somehow still ambulatory I'm finding my willing suspension of disbelief waning. And that, of course, is vital to this genre being successful. I still enjoy the dramatic aspects of the show (for the most part), but I just don't see the show going 10 seasons. 2 maybe 3 more at most. It seems the writers sometimes struggle to fill the 16 episode requirement. It might help to reduce the number of episodes per season down to 12.
Quote from: bromstaker on March 13, 2015, 01:46:27 PM
I've been coming to the realization that the concept doesn't work in the long term. Because the walkers are now rotted corpses but somehow still ambulatory I'm finding my willing suspension of disbelief waning. And that, of course, is vital to this genre being successful. I still enjoy the dramatic aspects of the show (for the most part), but I just don't see the show going 10 seasons. 2 maybe 3 more at most. It seems the writers sometimes struggle to fill the 16 episode requirement. It might help to reduce the number of episodes per season down to 12.
Sorry but I can "suspend my disbelief" and prefer 26 episodes per year plus numerous spinoffs. :P
Quote from: Dr.Cyclops on March 15, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
Sorry but I can "suspend my disbelief" and prefer 26 episodes per year plus numerous spinoffs. :P
I can "suspend my disbelief" too. I just wish that something would actually happen from time to time. The last two episodes have been real snoozers.
Things finally picked up this episode. You notice how these days Shane looks pretty tame compared to Rick and Carol?
Yep, this episode actually kept me awake to the end.
Anybody here watch "Fear the Walking Dead" last night? The characters are not as endearing as the cast of the original, but it kept a pretty good pace, IMO. I'm looking forward to how things will develop. It's just nice to see the zombies in the L.A. locales. If you live here (L.A.), you'd have a hard time distinguishing the dead from the living sometimes.
I'm going to wait till the 6 episode season ends to decide if I like it. It started out OK and, hopefully, I'll warm up to the characters by then.
With the exception of the stepdad, the characters weren't particularly likeable. But the young dude playing the junkie did a pretty convincing job! I also liked the slow build to the climax. The things happening in the background during the episode created a real ominous air. The strength of this show will (hopefully) be in vividly portraying just how the world fell apart during the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.
Quote from: bromstaker on August 25, 2015, 03:26:48 PM
The strength of this show will (hopefully) be in vividly portraying just how the world fell apart during the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.
Not sure how many seasons they can stretch that into, before it just becomes TWD with a different cast.
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 25, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
Not sure how many seasons they can stretch that into, before it just becomes TWD with a different cast.
As long as the cast grows on me, that's good enough for now. Ruben Blades should bring some life to the upcoming episodes.
Episode two of "Fear" really picked up the tempo. Looking forward to next week's show.
Quote from: Mord on August 31, 2015, 04:57:45 PM
Episode two of "Fear" really picked up the tempo.
I assume they're
not going to the desert and leave the zombies behind.
Quote from: Mike Scott on August 31, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
I assume they're not going to the desert and leave the zombies behind.
Really? I though they would all make it to the desert and live happily ever after. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
I guess I'm the only one watching "Fear TWD". I thought the third episode was fantastic. It had the whole Romero vibe that elevated it above the other episodes. If you like classic zombie fare, You really should be watching this show.
Quote from: Mord on September 15, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
I guess I'm the only one watching "Fear TWD". I thought the third episode was fantastic. It had the whole Romero vibe that elevated it above the other episodes. If you like classic zombie fare, You really should be watching this show.
I have all 3 episodes recorded but I haven't watched the 2nd or 3rd yet since I was so underwhelmed by the first one. Need to watch these now.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on September 15, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
I have all 3 episodes recorded but I haven't watched the 2nd or 3rd yet since I was so underwhelmed by the first one. Need to watch these now.
When you get to the third one, every minute will be worth it. I know that you're as big a fan of Romero as I am.
Ooo, they almost made it to the desert, if only whatshername realized that you don't stop to help people in a zombie apocalypse!!
I like this show as much as the main one. primarily because nothing has been established as to who the leads are, so anyone can bite it. Also because I like to see the slow erosion leading to the Zombie nightmare. Kind of like what's happening in The Strain. Only with Zombies. I hope the show continues past 6 episodes. Unless everyone gets ate. :angel:
Quote from: Anton Phibes on September 15, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
primarily because nothing has been established as to who the leads are, so anyone can bite it.
Being a lead don't keep you safe in TWD world!
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 15, 2015, 05:43:35 PM
Being a lead don't keep you safe in TWD world!
Tru dat, brother. Remember Shane?
Quote from: Mord on September 15, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
Remember Shane?
And Lori, Andrea, Dale, Hershel, Beth, etc., etc.
The problem I'm having with the show (and I'm not the only one) is that the characters thus far aren't particularly likeable, and the writers have them do dopey stuff. I thought episode 3 was the best so far, but when the normally sensible step dad went into his anti-gun rant I was hollering at the tv! That was just downright stupid considering what they've already seen and experienced up to that point.
Quote from: bromstaker on September 16, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
. . but when the normally sensible step dad went into his anti-gun rant I was hollering at the tv!
Don't worry. It won't be long before he's blowing off zombie heads. :D
I think it is a decent show but don't you think by now the zombies would be a little more prevalent than they are?
During the "civil unrest" there is the scene where a police sergeant is eating the throat of another police officer then it shifts to a scene of a police line advancing on the civil unresters.
Didn't any of the several officers see this happening?
I think the first episode blew it in regards to the girl zombie killing the two other guys who would turn into walkers, who all would in turn, leave the church looking for fresh victims but they just seem to disappear. It should have been rampant after that.
Remember the guy in Florida on bath salts eating the face off the homeless man and the police had to shoot him? That made the news about ten minutes after it happened.
This is all taking place in the span of a day or two. The church walkers were in a crappy neighborhood where murder is common. They just probably went to a nearby park & fed on the homeless & druggies. Not as tasty, but what can you expect from fast food.
Quote from: Mord on September 16, 2015, 01:33:06 PM
This is all taking place in the span of a day or two. The church walkers were in a crappy neighborhood where murder is common. The just probably went to a nearby park & fed on the homeless & druggies. Not as tasty, but what can you expect from fast food.
:laugh:
I like this show but it is moving too slow. Not sure how long I'll keep up with it.
NOW,ask me about Z Nation on SyFy. Love that show. It has action,drama and some fun dark humor. Perfect balance. Zombie Cool
Quote from: Wicked Lester on September 17, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
I like this show but it is moving too slow. Not sure how long I'll keep up with it.
NOW,ask me about Z Nation on SyFy. Love that show. It has action,drama and some fun dark humor. Perfect balance. Zombie Cool
Even episode three? That had a lot of zombie goodness. I'm just glad it's not Resident Evil style crap.
Quote from: Wicked Lester on September 17, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
NOW,ask me about Z Nation on SyFy.
I see they lost another regular on last week's show. And it looks like they found his replacement in the same episode.
For the two or three of us watching the show, I thought the finale was pretty good. The series got off to a fairly slow start (weak characters didn't help), but the finale did get things rolling. I like the idea of taking to the sea.
Re FTWD. And in the grand tradition of TWD, they killed off a regular (i.e. core group 2.5 families). (I think we knew the older woman was going to die, so no real surprise there.)
Yeah, though I kinda liked **** (didn't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet).
I'll vote with the "Fear..." as way too slow-moving. I can't imagine re-watching any entire episode - sitting still without FAST FORWARD being clicked constantly. And reducing episodes to about 3-4 minutes of scenes is NOT what I'd consider 'good' for a program's rewatchability.
Of course, "Walking" is the same way. These are like soap operas - "You only have to walk the first 15 minutes on Mondays and the last 15 minutes on Fridays to get the whole week...
AMC originally had Walking Dead marathons 24/7. Now, they've seen that larger numbers are tuning out, so they've wisely trimmed back 'marathons' to a few episodes over prime-time.
I've wondered if the killing off of characters is a Forced Reduction to interest in marathon viewing ("Why bother this episode? They all die in 3 more...") and, if so, then TWD has doomed itself. At least they haven't maimed so many characters like Robert Kirkman's version, but his abysmal artist skills rather forced him to hack up and maim characters and faces simply for recognition purposes. I suppose the idea of nametags "Hi, My Name Is Bob" wouldn't have worked on his limited frame-size format anyway.
Quote from: Mord on October 09, 2015, 09:15:26 AM
For the two or three of us watching the show, I thought the finale was pretty good. The series got off to a fairly slow start (weak characters didn't help), but the finale did get things rolling. I like the idea of taking to the sea.
Yeah I like the show too. I don't think the characters are nearly as compelling as TWD, but I think the premise is great.
Premier of season 6 of TWD tonight!!
Watching now. ; )
Too tired to watch it tonight............which is partially explained by my growing sense of boredom with the show.
I don't want to hear any "not enough zombies" complaints! (Holy Crap!!)
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 11, 2015, 10:53:31 PM
I don't want to hear any "not enough zombies" complaints! (Holy Crap!!)
Yeah. Plenty in the episode.....and then some.
Great episode to kick off the second half of season six! Glad to see Morgan back too.
I agree with all of you. Loads of zombies, Morgan, and great effects all added up to one great episode. It almost felt like a theatrical movie.
I have to say the first episode of this season was really good. ....and oh, my, Lanta! What'a up with, Carol?
Quote from: marsattacks666 on October 12, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
I have to say the first episode of this season was really good. ....and oh, my, Lanta! What'a up with, Carol?
Yeah, it's like she's trying to hide her dark side especially when Morgan questioned her.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 12, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Great episode to kick off the second half of season six!
Actually, just the first half of S6.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 12, 2015, 11:42:59 AM
Actually, just the first half of S6.
Whoops! I get confused sometimes. :)
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 12, 2015, 11:41:12 AM
Yeah, it's like she's trying to hide her dark side especially when Morgan questioned her.
She's ef'd in the head, and probably always has been that way.
Not to mention she lives in denial.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 12, 2015, 11:41:12 AM
Yeah, it's like she's trying to hide her dark side especially when Morgan questioned her.
I guess they had never met. Can't remember all the old episodes. She's been playing the innocent since they got to the new place, but Morgan picked up on her body language. Asked her if she had been a cop (with Rick), because he noticed her "watching" everything.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 12, 2015, 11:49:09 AM
I guess they had never met. Can't remember all the old episodes. She's been playing the innocent since they got to the new place, but Morgan picked up on her body language. Asked her if she had been a cop (with Rick), because he noticed her "watching" everything.
Carol and Morgan had never met. Morgan was a season 1 character back when even Rick Grimes was green. He was hiding in his house watching his zombie wife walking around outside.
I don't recall them ever meeting. But I could be wrong.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 12, 2015, 11:46:30 AM
Whoops! I get confused sometimes. :)
These split seasons are confusing!
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 12, 2015, 11:51:33 AM
Morgan was a season 1 character back when even Rick Grimes was green.
Yeah, but he made another appearance a couple of seasons ago, where he was all crazy and such. I couldn't remember who all ran into him, at that time.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 12, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Yeah, but he made another appearance a couple of seasons ago, where he was all crazy and such. I couldn't remember who all ran into him, at that time.
Wow! I don't even remember that.....good memory, Mike.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 12, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Yeah, but he made another appearance a couple of seasons ago, where he was all crazy and such. I couldn't remember who all ran into him, at that time.
It's all right here. Season 3 he went a little nuts when his son Duane got bitten by his zombie mother. He set up all those traps and Rick, Carl and Michonne run into him, but not Carol. Rick shot him because he was shooting at them, but he was wearing body armor so he lived (obviously).
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Morgan_Jones_%28TV_Series%29 (http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Morgan_Jones_%28TV_Series%29)
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 12, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Yeah, but he made another appearance a couple of seasons ago, where he was all crazy and such. I couldn't remember who all ran into him, at that time.
Yes, that's when he was grieving over the death of his son. I thought that episode was the last of him. I'm glad he's back (and sane).
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 12, 2015, 12:07:03 PM
He set up all those traps and Rick, Carl and Michonne run into him, but not Carol.
Thanks for the memory jog!
I'm not sure about the "Carol f'ed in the head" analysis. I'd argue that Carol The Battered Wife was more screwed up, and Carol The Cold Blooded Do'er of Hard Deeds is merely living out Rick's "insane thinking? It's an insane world" strategy. And making the tougher choices. Killing off the two infected patients in the prison... executing the little girl who killed simply because killing had become common and normal... tough choices, and Carol did them.
No one's questioned Michone's original 'watchdogs', by the way. The ones where she'd methodically hacked off their arms... hacked out their lower-jaws carefully to not sever the neck muscles so the critters could still function with full senses. For her protection. Too bad she hadn't figured a way to keep them from snarling and growling when Waterbury types wandered nearby. And the rather coincidental confession that she'd had to kill her husband (boyfriend?) and her brother. Uh... hmmm... two watchdogs. Two family members? Hmmm... no one's brought up that calculated testing system of "What can zombies be good for?"
I think Carol's simply making astute observations and it's not like she hasn't had a life of observing closely. It's just that few have noticed. She made a comment an episode or two ago where a beaten-up, subdued Rick wondered why he should lie. "Because these people are children, and children like stories."
And have these writers ever presented a more sinister character than Carol, telling the young lad who'd spied her sneaking into the armory, that he was due for serious harm? Or threatening the latest battering husband, one hand on her knife, the other holding her latest casserole? He's twice her size - literally... but also aware of the old adage, "It's not the size of the dog in the fight but..."
She played that perfectly. Except... well... she didn't get her casserole dish returned. Or cleaned. C'est la vie...
F'ed in the head? Or astute observer of human nature? Well, at least she's not an oh-so-smart architect who sticks his neck out for some jackass with a sword waving around...
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 12, 2015, 12:28:19 PM
"Because these people are children, and children like stories."
I liked that line! :)
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 12, 2015, 12:28:19 PM
I'm not sure about the "Carol f'ed in the head" analysis. I'd argue that Carol The Battered Wife was more screwed up, and Carol The Cold Blooded Do'er of Hard Deeds is merely living out Rick's "insane thinking? It's an insane world" strategy. And making the tougher choices. Killing off the two infected patients in the prison... executing the little girl who killed simply because killing had become common and normal... tough choices, and Carol did them.
No one's questioned Michone's original 'watchdogs', by the way. The ones where she'd methodically hacked off their arms... hacked out their lower-jaws carefully to not sever the neck muscles so the critters could still function with full senses. For her protection. Too bad she hadn't figured a way to keep them from snarling and growling when Waterbury types wandered nearby. And the rather coincidental confession that she'd had to kill her husband (boyfriend?) and her brother. Uh... hmmm... two watchdogs. Two family members? Hmmm... no one's brought up that calculated testing system of "What can zombies be good for?"
I think Carol's simply making astute observations and it's not like she hasn't had a life of observing closely. It's just that few have noticed. She made a comment an episode or two ago where a beaten-up, subdued Rick wondered why he should lie. "Because these people are children, and children like stories."
F'ed in the head? Or astute observer of human nature? Well, at least she's not an oh-so-smart architect who sticks his neck out for some jackass with a sword waving around...
That was articulate and thought-provoking . I never considered the alternative. But! She (Carol) may be making astute observations, based on her end-of-the-world, Zombie apocalyptic experiences. That does not negate the fact, she is _ _ _ _ING crazy. I guess I gauged my opinion
from previous seasons? Especially the scene with the young boy. Cookies or death? Was her threat towards the child to protect the others, e.g. Rick, Daryll....etc.......
Mars, I didn't see that incredibly mean and sinister 'threat' as signs of delusion. I see it as an accurate extrapolation of possibilities.
One, she had to make the child realize that grave dangers would proceed from HIS tippy-toe spying. After all, didn't all of us kids spy and eavesdrop at some time or another? Wasn't there a secret thrill of being so accomplished at "spying"? Well... for that young lad, NOW he had to pay the piper.
And she told him what price he could pay.
Now, it's his decision.
The fact that she maintained such a flat, even face, such a flat even tone as the most chilling words fell onto him had to make that experience even more profound.
For Carol, she could have flown into a rage and ranted, stomped and screamed. But that wouldn't "make him hear what she needed him to hear". She very rationally understood, "Children like stories so..." she proceeded like that. And she told him a story of guile and horror that he obviously took to heart. Did he believe her? Well, every child at that age has probably been confronted with a "Who's gonna believe a kid instead of me?" horror at some point.
I thought that entire scene showed an absolute grasp of the reality as Carol foresaw - which was indeed a distinct uprising against her new arrival crew - and that Rick and others would fight and harm a great many.
All because a kid loved to sneak around and spy.
To me, Carol's reaction was perfect. Completely rational. Dead-on perfect. No stomping, no twisted-face rants. Calm. Dead calm.
Mars, truly - what other alternative could she have posed to him? Stomp? Scream? Fly into a ian rage of twisted faces? That would certainly frighten almost any child - but it would not 'make him hear what she needed him to hear'. Her choice doesn't smack of looniness - it is the same chillingly distilled action as her awareness to execute a small girl.
Now, if someone wants to argue that any of these experiences - being a battered wife for years, for killing infected, dying people, for executing a mere child - if someone wants to argue those alone wouldn't qualify ANY human as "insane", well...
I think the execution of the little girl was a stunning, Sophies-Choices caliber event. Carol had to realize that, she either kills that girl now or risk everyone else's lives at the child's Bundy/Dahmer esque mentality. Or, did Carol realize that, under the next zombie attack, there would be a time when she had to devote attention and energy to save that little girl and might hold back? Might not give her all? A true Sophie's Choice, therefore. She bit the bullet and said, "Now is the time. I'll do it."
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 12, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
Mars, I didn't see that incredibly mean and sinister 'threat' as signs of delusion. I see it as an accurate extrapolation of possibilities.
One, she had to make the child realize that grave dangers would proceed from HIS tippy-toe spying. After all, didn't all of us kids spy and eavesdrop at some time or another? Wasn't there a secret thrill of being so accomplished at "spying"? Well... for that young lad, NOW he had to pay the piper.
And she told him what price he could pay.
Now, it's his decision.
The fact that she maintained such a flat, even face, such a flat even tone as the most chilling words fell onto him had to make that experience even more profound.
For Carol, she could have flown into a rage and ranted, stomped and screamed. But that wouldn't "make him hear what she needed him to hear". She very rationally understood, "Children like stories so..." she proceeded like that. And she told him a story of guile and horror that he obviously took to heart. Did he believe her? Well, every child at that age has probably been confronted with a "Who's gonna believe a kid instead of me?" horror at some point.
I thought that entire scene showed an absolute grasp of the reality as Carol foresaw - which was indeed a distinct uprising against her new arrival crew - and that Rick and others would fight and harm a great many.
All because a kid loved to sneak around and spy.
To me, Carol's reaction was perfect. Completely rational. Dead-on perfect. No stomping, no twisted-face rants. Calm. Dead calm.
Respectfully, I have a different opinion and view of that particular scene.
Honestly If I we're that kid, cake would be much more appealing than cookies. Oh.....well....... ;D
Marsy, you and yer steenkin' cakes... now this is what I'm pondering!
(http://mokedenosh.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/chocolate-cake-.jpg)
Stiff cup o' coffee... Hubby and his minions fanning me as I waft down the Nile... ah yes...
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 12, 2015, 06:21:23 PM
Marsy, you and yer steenkin' cakes... now this is what I'm pondering!
(http://mokedenosh.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/chocolate-cake-.jpg)
Stiff cup o' coffee... Hubby and his minions fanning me as I waft down the Nile... ah yes...
Oh, my, Lanta!!! That cakes look yummy, Christine. Now I 'll have to take a trip to my local grocery store. Lol.
Btw......I really do see and respect your point about Carol.
Marsy, it's a bit late to give you much warning, but TCM's playing LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN starring one of the most beautiful women, Gene Tierney, in a role that should make every salivatin' male think twice about beauties. Now GENE should get your attention for crazy. As in Norman Bates crazy. As in "anything and I mean anything's fair as long as I get what I want" crazy.
Carol's got nuthin' on Tierney.
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 14, 2015, 06:58:32 PM
Marsy, it's a bit late to give you much warning, but TCM's playing LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN starring one of the most beautiful women, Gene Tierney, in a role that should make every salivatin' male think twice about beauties. Now GENE should get your attention for crazy. As in Norman Bates crazy. As in "anything and I mean anything's fair as long as I get what I want" crazy.
Carol's got nuthin' on Tierney.
Christine, thank you for the recommendation. I'll check-it-out. : )
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 14, 2015, 06:58:32 PM
Gene Tierney, in a role that should make every salivatin' male think twice about beauties.
There's no classic era actress that I have a bigger crush on than Gene Tierney! THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR is probably my favorite GT movie.
Gee... I wonder if Mike is too old to be taught some new tricks? Hmmm...
Janis Carter (http://www.glamourgirlsofthesilverscreen.com/t.php?id=2731/) who spelled doom for Barry Sullivan and almost for the town drunk, Glenn Ford... if it wasn't for that sharp-eyed ol' coot, Edgar Buchanan in 1947's FRAMED.
Hedy Lamarr... Mary Beth Hughes... Frances Gifford... Binnie Barnes, a total lark in the early '30s, a great singer, too.
Rhonda Fleming, leading so many men astray in CRY DANGER. Almost Dick Powell, too.
Yes indeed, some serious lessons to be passed along. Who was it that said "testing, testing, testing"? No wait.. that was "practice, practice, practice", wasn't it?
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 15, 2015, 06:15:53 AM
Gee... I wonder if Mike is too old to be taught some new tricks? Hmmm...
I'm too old for pretty much everything. :(
Last night's episode was phenomenal. The humans become more & more menacing as time progresses. You barely notice the zombies. They have become more of a nuisance (like buzzing mosquitoes) than an actual threat. Anyone who wishes to over-intellectualize the show and miss out on the fun...your loss. People have done that to the Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, X-Files etc.. I'm just glad that there's an enjoyable, successful horror show on the air.
Quote from: Mord on October 19, 2015, 01:17:01 PM
Last night's episode was phenomenal. The humans become more & more menacing as time progresses. You barely notice the zombies. They have become more of a nuisance (like buzzing mosquitoes) than an actual threat. Anyone who wishes to over-intellectualize the show and miss out on the fun...your loss. People have done that to the Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, X-Files etc.. I'm just glad that there's an enjoyable, successful horror show on the air.
It was great and those Wolf people were nuts! Carol has proven herself just as capable as Rick Grimes. Also, Morgan's inability to kill is a weakness in the world of the walking dead. He's gonna regret letting those few loose especially since they nabbed a gun! Great episode!
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 19, 2015, 01:26:09 PM
It was great and those Wolf people were nuts! Carol has proven herself just as capable as Rick Grimes. Also, Morgan's inability to kill is a weakness in the world of the walking dead. He's gonna regret letting those few loose especially since they nabbed a gun! Great episode!
Yeah, those Wolf guys (& gals) are wicked party animals. This season has already made up for the lackluster season 5 (and we're only two episodes in!). Can't wait for Sunday. I feel like a kid at one of those cliffhanger serials they used to show between movies in the 40's.
I love that "Whoa, what the hell just happened!?" moment, when the first (that we see) Wolf hacks up the cigarette women! I was stunned! "Who was that?" "Can't be a zombie!" Best moment of the season and I predict that will be true by the end of the season. GREAT episode!
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 19, 2015, 01:40:09 PM
I love that "Whoa, what the hell just happened!?" moment...
I was cussin' and spittin' in Marsy's general direction thinking he was RIGHT - that Carol was now seeing things - she was TOTALLY WACKO!!
Whew!!
NO, MARSY!! She saw what she saw... and another moment of dangerous lucidity, where she calculates the need to dress up as a Wolfie so she can get close enough for a handgun's surely-dead shots. Bam bam bam...
Honestly... I don't know why I listen to Marsy at all. He forced us to watch MARS ATTACK the other night, and despite all the laughs and hilarity, I was still spittin' and cussin', downing a second layer of some blasted espress-choco cake. I think I hate him. Really. He's got me laughin' at his namesake, eating that wicked cake with late night coffee... he's gotta pay for this.
Mord, the writers still haven't earned any faith in me to not ruin the season with dull, forgettable hour-long diatribes with little more than gore mechanics. "Step 1... Step 2... Step 3... rinse and repeat..."
They can deliver an entire season of good writing and THEN I'll give them proper kudos. But I fear, right now, that I'd be spitting into the same "ensembles are just too tough to write for" wind.
(I've been waiting for more than a year to see how the comics' Wolf People would translate on-screen. I've grown too bored with that medium's continual One More Uber Bad Guy scenario, stacked up like cordwood.)
That's ok, Christine, I guess we're looking for different things from our entertainment. I'm thoroughly satisfied with just about anything that offers up loads of gratuitous gore (& nudity, as well). You wouldn't believe the crap I sit through (while eating mountains of nutrient-free junk food). It's a wonder I'm not an obese serial killer...yet.
I have strong degradations aimed at the graphics-novel comics version of TWD. I got tired of having characters whittled away, one body part at a time, as if the writer is lamenting, "I can't think of anything to do except Be Creative or Be Dull & Whittle Away. So I whittle away."
Grrr... I'd rather watch Grant Williams learn to handle a needle instead. For the umpteenth time.
In that context, the TV show has received comparatively positive marks - only a few 'whittle' jobs have occurred.
(I strongly suspect the graphic-novel's artist is too unskilled at drawing, and at whatever output speed is required, so he's developed a Logo style by taking off arms, legs, eyes, etc. so the readers can more easily identify characters. That's fairly astute of him, too, because I agree - he's a horrible artist and can't be relied upon to develop a multitude of distinquishably drawn characters. That IS a toughy - maybe every comic book artist this side of ARCHIE has had issues drawing a multitude of characters, over time, to be distinguishably different.)
Gory Glen is right. Morgan is going to regret his not killing the W that took the gun. He will kill Morgan with it, or someone else in front of him.
Somehow I felt more sorry for the tortoise than I did the residents of Alexandria. The potential for an invasion, walker or non-walker is imminent and they walk around unarmed.
Not to get too political but the unarmed or more like it, disarmed residents show how indefensible they are to a bunch of knife wielding maniacs.
Great episode, loved Carol. Karl had to be reminded to stay tough or die. Glad he lost the hat.
Ah, son of a . . . !!! Why him??
!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!
I won't mention the name, just yet, but DAMN! And I don't care what they said on Talking Dead, the man is D E A D ! They may bring him back as a zombie, or in a flashback, but that's it.
Other than the sad ending, it was another outstanding episode!
Major loss of credibility if they somehow save him from that impossibly lethal scenario...no way
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Dead? The only "possible" way out is if they have him crawl under the dumpster and wait it out. The zombies may be so distracted munching on "what's his face" that he may just stand a chance; He is stealthy enough to pull it off but if those were his innards being lunched then of course that won't matter.
I vote for letting him crawl under and practice his long-lost GUTS skills (Episode 3?) and be clever and quiet. Pull a few walkers around him and let them be his masking agent.
However... the argument that JIMM advances - that such a trick would be lame, a loss of credibility - also seems valid. Of course, I'll never understand why the snipers weren't shooting the Guv's other eye out the moment he put the sword to Herschel's neck, either...
"Makes sense" and "Credibility" might not be the best foundation for Walking Dead debates, therefore.
So far, we've had 3 episodes that basically cover the same time-frame, too. Three different groups on their own tangents, all during the Town Raid by the Wolves.
Will it take another 3 episodes - or more - for the writers to put all the pieces back together? Yawn... I'll get more bored than usual at such a suh-loooow pace.
"Hey - we need another stall tactic - let's have the RV's motor not start!!" Yeah... riiight... another zenith in their creative thought process (gag cough). :P
Maybe there is a sewer opening under the dumpster. Happened in many others shows and comics. Those were obviously Nicholas's guts all over Glenn and not his own. Its a fake out...just as when all we found was Carol's head scarf after T Dogg bit it. Everyone thought she was dead too. Except for me.
I still watch the show. But they have used so many characters up in "shocking death fodder" that i don't care what they do to them anymore. Which is bad. Because if you don't care for the characters.....because you know they are just gonna kill them....its hard to be invested.
Anton, a BIG LIKE on that comment. Once characters or shows reduce themselves into my pathetic zone, they become the worst segment of entertainment: boring. Unmemorable. Like LOST lost me about 2 shows into Season 2 because I kept waiting for some big white Kong to show up. "Move along, folks... nuthin' to see here."
Nuthin' at all. I have no idea what happened on LOST. I don't care. Same with HEROES. When GILLIGAN'S ISLAND is their milestone for accomplishments, I have to question, "Why waste an hour when Gilligan could do the same in 19 minutes?"
Quote from: Jethro on October 19, 2015, 03:01:59 PM
Gory Glen is right. Morgan is going to regret his not killing the W that took the gun. He will kill Morgan with it, or someone else in front of him.
Did I call it or did I call it. :) They killed ______! !#$%&*! >:( :( Not liking this.
Quote from: jimm on October 26, 2015, 12:30:46 AM
Major loss of credibility if they somehow save him from that impossibly lethal scenario...no way
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Especially since he just survived a similar Kobayashi Maru situation in last season't finale where I was almost sure you'd find out he'd been bitten when he somehow survived that attack. Unless they're going to make him the "Kenny" of the Walking Dead....
It just stinks that he went out the way he did, with no one knowing that even his death proves Rick's point that these Alexandrians are so ill-prepared that they are getting more capable people killed with their actions. And how will (obviously) pregnant Maggie learn what happened to her husband? will she go off on a quest to find him like she did leading up to Terminus? Or will she treat Glenn like she did Beth and just forget him for months?
I can't believe I'm the only one that gets this! Isn't it obvious what's going to happen next?
Rick wakes up, in his hospital bed, and says in his English accent, "Man! I had the WEIRDEST dream! I got my dream job, in a 007 film, but instead of being Bond, I was cast as the Southern Sheriff. And instead of being in some exotic location, I'm stuck out in Atlanta, or somewhere. Hills and forests somewhere. Isn't that weird, Laurie?"
"Laurie?"
"Where'd everyone go?"
Then, a nurse with a pig-snout face walks in and tells him, "Don't worry, we've got someone ready to meet you and take you to our Woodbury facility, where you'll be with others that look like you. We changed your name to Jethro, by the way, and you've now got a sister named Ellie May."
"Wh-what? Who are you? WHAT are you?!!"
"Now, now, stay calm. That man's name is Frisby. He'll meet you down in the basement, in Room 22. It used to be our - well, never mind. Mr. Frisby is very nice. A bit talkative. Just ask him to play the harmonica - that keeps him from talking at least."
Just as she's leaving, she turns, "Oh - when you're down there, some of the doors have bars across their windows. Don't listen to those people inside. One fellow has a bad habit of trying to trick people into letting him out. It's a devil of a time to get him back in there. Just ignore him. Stick with Mr. Willoughby."
"W-Willougby? I thought you said his name was Frisby?"
"Oh did I? Well... silly me, of course it is. That's what I meant. Now please, just stay calm. You DO want a cookie, don't you?"
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 25, 2015, 10:33:19 PM
Ah, son of a . . . !!! Why him??
!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!
I won't mention the name, just yet, but DAMN! And I don't care what they said on Talking Dead, the man is D E A D ! They may bring him back as a zombie, or in a flashback, but that's it.
Other than the sad ending, it was another outstanding episode!
I'm not sure about that. The leaving actors are always on Talking Dead for closure. The guts & inerds we saw may have been from "suicide boy". Though, I think his character died long ago in the graphic novel. Still, like you said, another great episode.
Quote from: Mord on October 26, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
The leaving actors are always on Talking Dead for closure.
I guess they have, if they're important characters. I still think people will see it as a cheat if he doesn't die (though most would be happy he lived) and wouldn't trust the writers/producers the next time it happens.
If he's dead, were down to 4 S1 characters and 1 (new) from S2.
Here is a quote from David Alpert (one of the exec producers): "I feel like, regardless of what happened to Glenn, he paid a tremendous price for having been human to Nicholas, and that, to me, from an emotional point-of-view — whether or not Glenn is alive or dead or something else — the Glenn that we knew, the one that believed in the better side of humanity, I think is dead."
I don't know, but that sounds pretty ambiguous to me. Is it possible that Nicholas' blood camouflaged Glenn? Maybe he returns as an angry, borderline psycho like Shane.
Quote from: jimm on October 26, 2015, 12:30:46 AM
Major loss of credibility if they somehow save him from that impossibly lethal scenario...no way
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Everybody realizes this is not a documentary, right? I think we've accepted less logical scenarios in our entertainment before (like the entire concept of the dead walking the earth thing).
Yeah but c'mon, he doesn't get devoured, let alone bit in that scenario? It's a feeding frenzy...
Quote from: geezer butler on October 26, 2015, 10:40:28 PM
Here is a quote from David Alpert (one of the exec producers): "I feel like...the Glenn that we knew, the one that believed in the better side of humanity, I think is dead."
I'm hoping that this is indeed the scenario. The comics lost me because of the continual whittling-away of body parts because the artwork was understood to be so shabby ("it has to be quick to maintain deadlines!!") so lost hands, legs, half-heads, etc, were done for the audience's better identification of the drawn characters.
That sort of "zenith of creativity" made the comics an easy item to pass up on the library shelf.
Quote from: Mord on October 26, 2015, 11:28:25 PM
Everybody realizes this is not a documentary, right? I think we've accepted less logical scenarios in our entertainment before (like the entire concept of the dead walking the earth thing).
Yeah, but zombies in a zombie show isn't a "cheat". A character being overwhelmed by a hoard of zombies and living through it, is.
Glenn is dead. Long live (in our memories only) the Glenn!
I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the blood and entrails we saw weren't Glenn's, they were Nicholas', who landed on top of Glenn. I think Glenn, who is slight of build will make his way under the dumpster, squeeze behind it and the cyclone fence, then make his escape while the horde is preoccupied feasting on Nicholas. I hope this is what will happen as I'm not ready to say goodbye to Glenn - especially with his 'death' being so abrupt and senseless. The character deserves better. But it was on the whole a heck of an episode.
In it, he calls Rick a dumb(*at*)%$. He hasn't done this since episode 1. In epsidoe 1, Rick escapes by climbing under a tank while an entire town of zombies eats Rick's horse. The show is full of horror movie nods and easter eggs. This time they gave a nod to the first season. Glenn will escape in similar fashion. Replace the tank with a dumpster, and a Horse with Nicholas.
PS--I felt worse for the horse than Nicholas.
As for credibility and credence: We are still buying into the idea that zombies hear every noise they make on this show and can see them. After rotting for at least a year. Guess what--eyes and ears are some of the first organs to liquify after being dead a very short period of time. Also--immediately after death---bowels and bladders empty. All of these things would be covered in poop and pee. The stomach and internal organs no longer exist. So--why the voilent need to eat.
The whole premise is doo doo. But I like it all the same. So I could easily believe Glenn pulled a Batman and crawled down the sewer. 8) ;)
Oh, Anton - stop making sense!!
The more important question is, WHEN Glenn returns, and he has this kind of haircut...
(http://i59.tinypic.com/hsknc8.jpg)
...is he a Zombie or not?!!
And how can you tell? How can you really know?
(Jeepers, they have the weirdest hats and the weirdest haircuts. Was Dr. Seuss really their fashion guru?)
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 27, 2015, 01:22:30 PM
Oh, Anton - stop making sense!!
The more important question is, WHEN Glenn returns, and he has this kind of haircut...
(http://i59.tinypic.com/hsknc8.jpg)
As long as he doesn't sissy goosestep like the N. Korean soldiers, I'm ok.
I watch Dark Shadows and Star Trek. There are so many "get out of jail free/make this crap up as we go along" goofy plot devices in those shows its laughable. But I like em. Because this stuff cant be squinted at too seriosuly. Its just a way to be entertained a bit. Because the real world is boring.
If I were writing this, I would just have Glenn pull a talisman out of his pocket that he was given years ago as a tip from a satisfied pizza customer, who happened to be a gypsy shaman. He would rub it a few times, turn into a ninja and disappear. Makes about as much sense as anything else I have watched up to this point,lol. ;D ;D ;)
Agreed. Look, this stuff comes from a comic book. If we can accept guys in tights flying, super power from a spider bite, Silver-surfin' thru the universe...Glenn escaping is straight out of Downton Abby.
Quote from: bromstaker on October 27, 2015, 01:06:05 PM
I think Glenn, who is slight of build will make his way under the dumpster, squeeze behind it and the cyclone fence, then make his escape . .
Except that there is
another zombie hoard on the
other side of the fence!
BTW I've never seen a dumpster that somebody could fit under.
Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 27, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
If I were writing this, I would just have Glenn pull a talisman out of his pocket that he was given years ago as a tip from a satisfied pizza customer, who happened to be a gypsy shaman.
Then why not have somebody just pull a magic wand out of their, er, pocket and make all the zombies disappear! (End of series.)
This type of chatter is exactly what the writers were hoping to elicit from the episode. There are TWO separate articles on this topic on the front page of the L.A. Times entertainment section, alone. I walk into my classroom and every student is discussing this. It worked!
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 27, 2015, 01:51:42 PM
Then why not have somebody just pull a magic wand out of their, er, pocket and make all the zombies disappear! (End of series.)
The talisman is limited in its scope, having been blessed with one magic wish...but also limited to an "in case if death only", and only to directly affect the individually making the wish's life. Much like Superman's limitation regarding kryptonite, or Green Lantern's weakness to yellow. See how easy it is to write this stuff. Just make something up. 8) 8) ;) ;) >:D
Y'know, of all the silly 'vehicles' in comic-dom, I think I'd vote the Silver Surfboard as The Number One Most Idiotic.
Suddenly, off the top of my head, I can't remember - are there two fins on it or one? It's a rather long board (ie, over his head), right?
I just love so many Kirby vehicles but, Jack Jack Jack... I swear... that had to be The Dumbest Of All.
"Except, it's alliterative."
Yes, in a few years, we'd all be thankful he didn't create the Toilet Tube, I suppose.
OK, now back to our show, already in progress...
Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 27, 2015, 02:33:23 PM
The talisman is limited in its scope, having been blessed with one magic wish...
In the 6 seasons of TWD, nobody has ever mentioned the use of magic. Would it really be credible to introduce it, now? You can't change the rules in the middle of the game.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 27, 2015, 03:19:54 PM
In the 6 seasons of TWD, nobody has ever mentioned the use of magic. Would it really be credible to introduce it, now? You can't change the rules in the middle of the game.
Hahhahahahaha! I hope you know I am being ridiculous. Im just saying that people who write this stuff make it up on the fly. Please don't take me seriously. I am gonna go with he found a sewer opening. Maybe he gutted a fat zombie and crawled inside. Ala Luke going into a taun taun belly. ;) ;) ;)I just don't think he's dead. ;)
Y-you're not s-serious?!! BLAST!!
Mike just sucker-bet me that you weren't, and I bet him the next mocha-choco cakes that you were!!
Argh... ruined again!
Anton, don't worry about me losing this bet. Sigh... it's just my whole world, that's all-! Sigh... sniffle...
And it's not the worst sucker-bet I've lost. Not even this week. Hubby tricked me into watching a film he called THE CORPS GRINDERS. "It's about US Marines landing in Italy, winning over the locals because they wandered the streets as organ grinders, attracting the lost monkeys. I think Clouseau and Chief Inspector Dreyfus have cameo appearances, too."
So, fine...
It starts... I miss the title card because he's fast-forwarded after he'd said he was almost out of popcorn. ("What? In the first 18 seconds? OK, fine...you're right - I'm closer...")
Then the director's name appears... Ted V. Mikels. Funny... that name's vaguely familiar, but not for war films. Hmmm...
"A-are you sure this about about the Marine Corps? I mean, what are all those cats doing? Why are those workers at some plant? Some food processing plant?"
Of course, the film turns out to be Mikels' THE CORPSE GRINDERS.
Tricked again. Why do I EVER let him down off of the dungeon walls?!!
Well... back in the shackles and chains, with him-! "You didn't even give yourself a chance to see Inspector Clouseau!!" were his famous last words. I'm sooo glad God invented gags. And I finished the warm popcorn, too.
I talked to the actor (Steven Yeun) in person somewhat recently at Comic Con, what a great guy who is genuinely sincere with his fans. He said, paraphrasing of course: expect big things from Glenn this season. Now with only 3 episodes into the season would that quote make any sense to have him die?
No way he is dead.
Wasn't on talking dead as a guest or as a who got killed in the episode thingy, they left an out (under the dumpster) or another distraction to peel the zombie off (loud noises or whatever), clearly the guy noone cared about and wished dead landed on top of him so it wasn't his guts, we have seen the guts smear throw off zombies before and what Anton said about the tank/horse parallel rings true enough to believe, they are way off his comic book ending already, he wasn't used as the shocker death to introduce the new baddie like he was in the comics yet etc. etc.
He is seriously the reason why some people watch the show because he is relatable and likable, an instant fan favorite rivaled perhaps only by Daryl's character. They would be shooting their own foot to get rid of him and have a significant chunk of the viewers suddenly lose interest or not be emotionally involved anymore, which is why I think they changed things from the comic already.
He is my favorite on the show.
on the other hand could he be bitten but survive and know his time is limited and still have a tear jerker scene back at town with his wife? he could come back as a zombie, or they could stretch out the suspense for a mid season cliffhanger then off him later which would fulfill the comicon prophecy straight from Glenn's mouth himself about "big things" and plenty of screen time even for a doomed character, he dies eventually probably this season, no way to get around that I think due to the comic story line.
1. dead get over it. (they really didn't give him a proper send off for such a major character)
2. guy has nine lives and they ain't up yet (yup, most likely)
3. doomed and dying limping back to town (they already used it when he was shot)
4. zombie Glenn (might piss folks off, plus it's been done with Merle)
Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 27, 2015, 05:59:04 PM
Hahhahahahaha! I hope you know I am being ridiculous.
Well, yeah, but I get to play, too! ;D
Quote from: ravenloft on October 27, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
expect big things from Glenn this season.
Wouldn't becoming a zombie be a big thing?
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 27, 2015, 11:24:17 PM
Wouldn't becoming a zombie be a big thing?
If he bit Rick or Daryl, it certainly would.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 27, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
Except that there is another zombie hoard on the other side of the fence!
BTW I've never seen a dumpster that somebody could fit under.
Mike, somebody at IMDB claimed to have rewound the scene and that the dumpster did have a space below it. Also, they noticed a fire escape near by. Heck, if I can accept the Frankenstein Monster falling through the floor of a burning windmill into an oh-so-convenient flooded cellar, then I have no problem with a skinny Asian guy slipping under an oh-so-convenient unusually high-bottomed dumpster, squeezing between the dumpster and a cyclone fence, then climbing the oh-so-convenient fire escape. Hey, it's Hollywood! Plus Glenn as a character has been extremely resourceful. On the other hand, if he's truly dead then that's a ballsy move by the writers to have such a major and popular character come to such an abrupt end. It would really reinforce the idea that, in this world, anyone can go anytime - sentiment be damned!
Quote from: bromstaker on October 28, 2015, 08:39:16 AM
then I have no problem with a skinny Asian guy slipping under an oh-so-convenient unusually high-bottomed dumpster, squeezing between the dumpster and a cyclone fence,
I'm not saying they can't do it. They can do whatever they want, but it will be a cheat.
Like I said, there's another zombie hoard on the other side of that fence.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 28, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
I'm not saying they can't do it. They can do whatever they want, but it will be a cheat.
Like I said, there's another zombie hoard on the other side of that fence.
Cheat away, as long as they keep Glenn around. You have to have at least one likeable character.
Maybe the dumpster is rusted out at the bottom. Glenn crawls up in it, grabs a discarded soda flat inside the dumpster and places it over the hole. Zombies, believing they ate all the meat in the area get bored and chase a nearby squirrel. >:D
Man I wish my next batch of DD heads would arrive. I need to paint. :angel:
Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 28, 2015, 01:33:31 PM
Maybe the dumpster is rusted out at the bottom. Glenn crawls up in it, grabs a discarded soda flat inside the dumpster and places it over the hole. Zombies, believing they ate all the meat in the area get bored and chase a nearby squirrel.
Or he sticks his feet out of the bottom of the dumpster Flintstone style and walks his way out. ;)
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 28, 2015, 01:35:05 PM
Or he sticks his feet out of the bottom of the dumpster Flintstone style and walks his way out. ;)
HAHAHHA!!!!!! ;D Droll, Wilma. Very droll.
Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 28, 2015, 01:33:31 PM
Maybe the dumpster is rusted out at the bottom. Glenn crawls up in it, grabs a discarded soda flat inside the dumpster and places it over the hole. Zombies, believing they ate all the meat in the area get bored and chase a nearby squirrel. >:D
Then Glenn will get tetanus and the zombies will get rabies. It's a lose-lose.
Quote from: Mord on October 28, 2015, 01:32:13 PM
Cheat away, as long as they keep Glenn around.
I don't want Glenn to die! I didn't want the writers to have a giant hoard of zombies cover him, either, but they did it and I don't see a (credible) way for them to write him out of it.
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 28, 2015, 03:17:29 PM
I don't want Glenn to die! I didn't want the writers to have a giant hoard of zombies cover him, either, but they did it and I don't see a (credible) way for them to write him out of it.
I think they've thrown credibility out the window before. They can do it just one more time to save Glenn. I completely understand where you're coming from, though.
Thanks for all the well wishes guys! :) Oh, wait you're talking about a different Glenn. :o
This is going to be interesting, whichever direction they choose. It reiterates what all the show's fans need to address: (1) Is this series going to come to a happy ending, or a bad one? And (2) will fans accept a wipe-out of the cast and new characters?
Are fans willing to accept "everyone dies" or are there sacred cows among the cast?
A new cast might attract a new audience. I suspect the original audience will erode sooner or later, especially with Glenn's, Maggie's, Judith's, Carl's, Carol's, Daryl's and the Other Daryl's deaths.
Quote from: Mord on October 28, 2015, 04:54:04 PM
I think they've thrown credibility out the window before.
I've seen people get out of a tight jam, before, but not an impossible one. If the writers come up with a credible "out", I'll give them their due.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 28, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes guys!
You've already turned! There's no hope for you.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on October 28, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes guys! :) Oh, wait you're talking about a different Glenn. :o
Remember pal, I know you. At 6'4", you ain't squeezing through any dumpster crawlspace.
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 28, 2015, 05:25:24 PM
Are fans willing to accept "everyone dies" or are there sacred cows among the cast?
A new cast might attract a new audience. I suspect the original audience will erode sooner or later, especially with Glenn's, Maggie's, Judith's, Carl's, Carol's, Daryl's and the Other Daryl's deaths.
In a word: No.
In several words: with out continuing characters for the fans to follow through out it would effectively be a spinoff series no different really than the new Fear of the Walking Dead show and ratings on the original show would tank, not to mention it would be a drastic departure from the comics the series are based on, so it will never happen.
Daryl is a bit of a wild card because he is not in the comics so he could easily die (and likely torpedo their show in ratings with fans, considering he is the numbereo uno fan pick) or he very well could be a sacred cow that is immortal for that very reason.
Rick is numero uno in the comics and the plot from day one has centered around him but he has gone off the deep end so many fans no longer relate to him or empathize with him (I stopped caring after he was looney and seeing his dead wife for instance.) He does not have immunity on the show in my opinion, but that would require a drastic departure from the comic story line so probably can't happen.
Judith is baggage in every sense of the word both emotional and physical so she could easily go, but that would make the writers baby killers (and probably ratings killers)
Carl is and always has been along for the ride, he is a slightly more important supporting character and is only important because of Rick...he is expendable but again he is a major character in the comics
Carol is the new badass, since Daryl has done very little for several episodes in a row (why are they trying to down play him?) and has subsequently gained much new popularity so I can't see her dying any time soon but who knows.
Maggie (from season two but now a regular) like Daryl hasn't done much in several episodes (getting down played why?) and really she is just supporting cast for Glenn and not a member of the original group so she is certainly expendable and her fate is largely tied to his. But as the only successful romance on the show, that is playing with the fans emotions like dynamite it will blow up in the writer's faces (or already has) but she is a super hottie, so male fans would be angered if she bit the dust.
the addition to the group of Morgan from the first season with his unique bo staff skills (in a Napoleon Dynamite voice) and humanity sorta intact means he is the current plot device for this season so he isn't checking out anytime soon for sure
Michonne the zombie chopping sword master (while from the second season and not one of the original cast) gives Walking Dead unique flavor, if they lose her it becomes the same as every other zombie survival movie at that point, so she is pretty much untouchable.
Judith can be offed any time now. I don't feel it would really be a ratings killer. She is just dead weight and a lot of fan's would rather have had Rick's wife survive than her.
Raven, I agree with almost everything except Maggie has taken on a sronger liaison, perhaps New Queen Of Alexandria role with her sensible, shovel-handing talk with Congresswoman What's-Her-Name.
The size of the ensemble is highlighted by your numerous references to "not doing much with them for several eps" comments. This is something the writers have to be dreading - "We've got too many, they're lasting too long!"
I wonder what the paycheck-signing producers are saying, too? Actors might not be used for weeks at a time. "Can I do Broadway? The next James Bond? Or the Selleckesque I'm wanted to do an action adventurer named Indiana Jones?" The long long episode filming regimen plus the weeks-off for many actors has to get them paid SOMETHING. It is a Guild show, after all.
"Kill 'em off" is one solution...although I think the Flintstone-mobile would be a hoot. Would Glenn operate it like a Roomba? Bumb-turn, bump-turn?
I think Michonne's my vote for Sacred Cow-Character. Judith will be a total toughie to kill off, though. Can you imagine THAT possible scene? Who lets her die? Who hands her over? ("And just after I'd changed her diaper!!")
(I can't believe Credibility is ever discussed on this show. "You need a shower." "What about siphoning off gasoline?" We haven't seen any reference to indoor plumping since the original Free-The-Convicts episode. I think "credibility" should be ix-nayed. "Logic and common sense", fine. But credibility? Well... they haven't given us a cheap non-death yet!)
Quote from: Mord on October 28, 2015, 06:53:43 PM
Judith can be offed any time now. I don't feel it would really be a ratings killer. She is just dead weight and a lot of fan's would rather have had Rick's wife survive than her.
She is already long dead in the comics Rick's wife Lori killed her accidently during her death in the prison.
"Lori's death in the TV show was greeted with cheers by many fans, as the character's divisive, contradictory behavior rendered her untenable and just plain annoying in the eyes of many. If you read the comics, though, you'll have to put up with her torment of the Grimes family even longer, since she doesn't die until the Governor's raid on the prison (and not before committing a final act of infanticide: falling on top of and crushing/smothering baby Judith)."
Carol and Glenn are both dead in the comics by this point as well.
(Thanks for the comics update. I lost interest just moments after Carl lost his eye/half-a-head. If you're up on the comics, how many body parts are missing for Rick and Carl now? The constant whittling away seemed to be the artist's method of easier identification since his ability to draw distinguishable characters with full body parts seemed, well, imperfect.)
the tv show is infinitely better. It is like they got a chance to fix things after they thought them through; plus what are zombies without colored gore?
Actors, F/X etc. Story line, Tv show is better in every way.
Morgan, Abraham, and Rosita are dead in the comics too.
I wouldn't give you two cents for the comics. tried them. Hated them. I like the show.
(Apologies for backtracking - well before Season 4.5, 4...)
There was an episode where Carl and his new gun are confronted by a slightly older lad, and Carl guns him down.
Herschel berated Carl then, and then finked on him to daddy Rick about Carl The Psycho Killer.
But... that wasn't right.
The slightly older let off a sneer that Carl saw, and no one else noticed - the older lad was going to draw and fire. That's what that sneer said - he was looking directly at Carl and said, with his eyes only, "I'm better'n you and I'm about ready to prove it by shooting you."
Carl shot first. No problem!
But Carl was tormented by Herschel for a few more episodes. Always uncorrected, too.
Did anyone else see that sneer? I have rewatched that episode specifically for it - yep, it's there. But is that anyone else's opinion? The kid challenged - Carl responded.
(TO MIKE SCOTT - you started this Season 4.5 thread... should there be - or is there? - a more general Walking Dead thread rather than tromp on your original subject?)
Quote from: ChristineBCW on October 29, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
(TO MIKE SCOTT - you started this Season 4.5 thread... should there be - or is there? - a more general Walking Dead thread rather than tromp on your original subject?)
We just kept using the same old thread, so I changed the title to: The "Walking Dead" Thread
We've just re-watched the entire series here from the start, and I've enjoyed it even more on a second viewing. I scoffed at some of the past episodes and got bored with season 2 with the whole farm/search for Sofia saga, but this time round I found it totally gripping. The constant struggle the characters have between their sense of morality and the desire to survive, and the way each character evolves through the seasons has made for some outrageously awesome television, and all with hoards of Romero-style zombies (I mean walkers/roamers/lame brains!).
Anyone else had the stamina to re-watch the whole bloody saga?
Oh, and Glenn lives!!
Quote from: long live kong on October 29, 2015, 04:51:35 PM
Anyone else had the stamina to re-watch the whole bloody saga?
I re-watched the first (6 epi.) season, before the 2nd season started, but that's as close as I ever got.
Quote from: long live kong on October 29, 2015, 04:51:35 PM
Anyone else had the stamina to re-watch...?
Yes. The key word. Stamina.
Now, rewatch them all again. Do that 3 times and promise to sit there, rapt!
It's going to be interesting to see if TWD has a shelf-life like the CSI / Law & Order types have....
Of course, I've never understood spinoffs of these, like Law & Order SUV. I know all these crime-dramas have big sports-utility vehicles, but do they really need an SUV spin-off themselves?!! "Just look at the shocks and springs! Who could have done this! We MUST solve this mystery!!"
"A scratch in the paint?!! MONSTERS, not just vandals! We must solve this horrific crime!!"
;) ;)
Well, onto a barely-more serious consideration... what if Carl was replaced, in time? I mean - the actor, but keep the character. I can think of one way to energize the series after all others are killed off. A new Carl actor - after all, he's got the Hat Thing going...
(http://rx.iscdn.net/2013/12/64642_billmurray.jpg)
Well I admit it does indeed require stamina. 16 eps a season is a long slog, but it's worth it! Go on Christine, give it a whirl!
Quote from: ravenloft on October 28, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
the tv show is infinitely better. It is like they got a chance to fix things after they thought them through; plus what are zombies without colored gore?
Actors, F/X etc. Story line, Tv show is better in every way.
Morgan, Abraham, and Rosita are dead in the comics too.
I've only looked over a few of the comics, but I've skim read 2 of the spin-off books (which are based on the comics - not the tv show). The books are darker, grimmer and unrelentingly brutal. I don't plan on reading another. The show is much better.
One thing I enjoy about AMC's several times a year show-all marathons is the chance to test stamina. I can barely get thru any one ep, though. There are simply too many long, drawn-out pauses between major events and, otherwise, all the brain splatters look the same.
I am still waiting for someone to slip and fall off of the Guv's pier into his zomb-pond. Gee - what a surprise!
Quote from: long live kong on October 30, 2015, 08:12:53 AM
Well I admit it does indeed require stamina. 16 eps a season is a long slog, but it's worth it! Go on Christine, give it a whirl!
I agree. There are very few other shows that I could watch full seasons of ("Breaking Bad" being another exception).
I'd like to see Carl get shot in the eye. Haven't read the comics but apparently he loses an arm as well?? That would be even better. The kid was adorable in seasons 1-2, I was thinking 'why all the hate for Carl'?
Then the little sucker hit puberty...Nooooooooo!!
After THE MORGAN episode, I was given a huge reminder-dose that these writers love their daytime soap operas. "We only need action and events on Monday and Friday, and we stall the other 3 days."
It's not that The Morgan episode wasn't decent for what it was, but for a group of writers who can only create 1 cliffhanger per season apparently, I guess we'll find Glenn has been stored in some farmer's barn for the rest of this season, only to be released at the very end.
(Which goes back to Marsy's comment about Carol being a loony... seeing Rick kill her zombie-daughter might give a wide berth for action-justification - "Doing what needs to be done" might be a great catch-all phrase for once-loony justifications.
I regret the writers didn't solve the Glenn mystery. "Stringing the audience along" has been their stock-n-trade, though.
Ok, Christine, you can gloat. It was a crappy episode, for sure. Funny, that Glenn in the barn scenario went through my mind too. It will be the midseason cliffhanger.
I knew they were gonna pull a "Who's Glenn?" this episode. Well, it was a good "What happened to Morgan" episode, anyhow, with "Norm" from FARGO.
I caught the replay of the Glenn death episode yesterday. I think he's really dead. There were walkers not just in front of the dumpster, but also at the sides and, most importantly, in the space behind. Even if Glenn managed to maneuver himself below the dumpster there was simply no place for him to go after that. I think the scene was deliberately filmed in such a way as to keep it ambiguous and have the fans discussing it, but I think it will eventually be revealed that Glenn is dead. The irony being that Glenn's decision not to kill Nicholas and to allow him the opportunity for redemption ends up leading to Glenn's demise.
Quote from: bromstaker on November 02, 2015, 10:26:09 AM
The irony being that Glenn's decision not to kill Nicholas and to allow him the opportunity for redemption ends up leading to Glenn's demise.
Which means that Rick will never die.
Personally I thought it was a great episode. You can complain all you want about leaving Glenn as a cliffhanger but getting the back story on Morgan was time well spent. You can also complain about the writing but I was too busy being enthralled by the great performances, especially by John Carroll Lynch who was the perfect actor to play his part. The big man with a big heart who found out how to be human again without being a victim who also saved Morgan from his own insanity. It's a tale that illustrates that we all need someone at some point in our lives. My only grievance with the philosophy of Aikido is that it's not always applicable in the world of the walking dead. There are consequences to be had with that philosophy as we saw when Rick was attacked by the wolves in the RV. But that's not a knock on the show, but a personal observation on that view. Still, this is my favorite show on television.
Glenn (by the way, I join the parade thanking you're alive.)
(You ARE alive, yes? Glenn? G-glenn - where'dya go?!!)
I don't think it was a crappy episode. But it's one of the many Cheap Tricks that writers can pull to string an audience along instead of dealing with the issues THEY create, and then moving on.
This forces creativity.
"Sorry - we're too dumb for that - we gotta stall for a lotta time and think of all possible teases along the way. What if we solved the Glenn issue? Then our series is over, right?"
Du-uh. If THAT is the peabrain concept, then the series is dead anyway. "Just give up and bail out. Quit. Give someone else a chance to write. Like Christine. She's got ideas!!"
And do I ever! First, Kirkland is stumbled across in the paws of the few remaining cannibals, and Rick sits back and agrees, "Naw... let them chop him up - he did it to everyone else when HE had control - this is MY series now."
Second, I'd move those folks into a landscape of water and farmland, long growing seasons, short or no winters.
"Hola. ¿Departamento de Inmigración? Estoy Ted Cruz..."
Here's one possibility for Glenn being MIA/KIA; the writers wanted to tell Morgan's but knew shiners would complain about the "boring" episode or tune out half way thru. The simple solution throw a cliffhanger in prior to the "time foiller" episode; it's not the first time they've used this method.
Geez what a surprising kick in the cajones no Glen episode for another week (at least) SMH
Lame way for Fargo to get bit as well... Some training
I guess I have to take back my comment about this being a "lame" episode. I wasn't in a very sensitive or pensive mood when I watched it last night. I was so spoiled by three straight weeks of nonstop action that I just didn't have the patience for a Morgan origins story. I re-watched it this afternoon and fully appreciate it for what it is. I have a feeling that Glenn is gone for good (outside of flashbacks or zombie-Glenn). Steven Yeun's name did not appear on the credits for the first time since he started the series.
Quote from: Mord on November 02, 2015, 08:19:21 PM
Steven Yeun's name did not appear on the credits for the first time since he started the series.
I noticed!
Just watched 'here isn't here'. Good episode, it was bugging me who the big dude was until I saw on here it's Norm from Fargo! I did find it comical how Morgan kept shouting Kill ME!! every time Norm put him down. I suppose after the Aikido Karate-kid style training sequences we won't get to see how Michonne learnt to use her un-bluntable sword.
The Wolf character being held by Morgan is a nasty piece of work. "Do you think I could change like you?" He asked with a creepy grin. "Yes. Yes I do, but I'm afraid the teeth are beyond redemption."
Quote from: long live kong on November 03, 2015, 01:16:52 AM
. . it was bugging me who the big dude was until I saw on here it's Norm from Fargo!
Oh yah, you betcha!
Quote from: Mord on November 02, 2015, 08:19:21 PMI have a feeling that Glenn is gone for good (outside of flashbacks or zombie-Glenn). Steven Yeun's name did not appear on the credits for the first time since he started the series.
Excellent observation but I wouldn't put it past them to do this intentionally. :)
And from the Damned-If-You-Do-Damned-If-You-Don't Department...
HERE'S NOT HERE was proof that these writers can deliver a solid standalone episode, and that John Carroll Lynch is a fine actor who'll join this production - even for just a single episode. I appreciated learning that his so-called aikido skills came with "only about 5 days of working on it." Good actors get by with the training they have.
I've seen some formal reviews decry the "bait and switch" tactics of these producers, and I concur.
Mord's early assessment, and his later refinement, displays that the producers are treading on thin audience-watching ice. Bore us, bait & switch us too many times, and I know I'll drop off. I think a larger-than-just-me group will, too.
The crew is obviously capable of good writing and character development, but even sharks will tire of swimming thru only chummed up waters.
"Where's the beef?" was popular in its time because that WAS an issue. (Or is it, still?)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MK9jJzbBT8#)
Does anyone really like continual teasing?
Quote from: long live kong on November 03, 2015, 01:16:52 AM
Just watched 'here isn't here'. Good episode, it was bugging me who the big dude was until I saw on here it's Norm from Fargo!
I recognized him from the Zodiac movie where he was the implied killer and from Gran torino where he was the barber. Great actor to make his characters believable like that, dude still creeps me out and definitely colored my perception of him on the Walking dead show. wasn't surprised one bit when it was revealed that he killed the guy, I kept waiting for the shocking twist to vegetarian respect life nice guy Miyagi, guess that was it but i was thinking darker for sure.
I have a where's the beef? card game from the 80's. I still chuckle when I see those commercials.
There was a mention that the show's writers hadn't installed miracle survivals before, but actually, Merle & The Saw was a miracle 'rescue', if you can call it that. He couldn't reach the saw for all the time before the zombies found their way upstairs.
And Daryl and his pal were trapped inside a car, having one last ciggy, when Morgan walks by with his big stick. Miracle timing, too.
Conversely, Rick and Glenn, all covered in guts, has a miracle rain that ends up spoiling their Sunday stroll... and Carl's getting shot, too, might qualify as a once-in-a... uh... 'lifetime'?!! shot. Hmmm... And arriving at the CDC, with only one last person left... just hours before that finale. Carol's miracle shot that set off the explosions just before axes came down on our cast's BBQ slaughters...
When considered, writing out these last-second moments isn't so rare...
Quote from: ravenloft on October 28, 2015, 08:03:25 PM
She is already long dead in the comics Rick's wife Lori killed her accidently during her death in the prison.
"Lori's death in the TV show was greeted with cheers by many fans, as the character's divisive, contradictory behavior rendered her untenable and just plain annoying in the eyes of many. If you read the comics, though, you'll have to put up with her torment of the Grimes family even longer, since she doesn't die until the Governor's raid on the prison (and not before committing a final act of infanticide: falling on top of and crushing/smothering baby Judith)."
Carol and Glenn are both dead in the comics by this point as well.
I was JUST thinking about how Lori died in the comics......isn't she just a walker (well, crawler....that shotgun cut her in half) wallowing in the prison courtyard even after all these years? Nobody took out (or found) her brain, did they?
Quote from: ravenloft on November 03, 2015, 09:00:57 PM
I recognized him from the Zodiac movie where he was the implied killer and from Gran torino where he was the barber. Great actor to make his characters believable like that, dude still creeps me out and definitely colored my perception of him on the Walking dead show. wasn't surprised one bit when it was revealed that he killed the guy, I kept waiting for the shocking twist to vegetarian respect life nice guy Miyagi, guess that was it but i was thinking darker for sure.
I have a where's the beef? card game from the 80's. I still chuckle when I see those commercials.
He also played Twisty the Clown from last season's American Horror Story. I am surprised that was not mentioned here.
thm
Quote from: the_horror_man on November 05, 2015, 06:53:26 PM
He also played Twisty the Clown from last season's American Horror Story. I am surprised that was not mentioned here.
thm
He was a seriously creepy clown, and played brilliantly. Had no idea that was him.
Quote from: long live kong on November 06, 2015, 08:38:18 AM
He was a seriously creepy clown, and played brilliantly. Had no idea that was him.
Me either. Good to know. He's one of those actors that are totally believable in whatever they do.
Another good episode. That sewer scene was absolutely creepy. Hey, where's Christine?
Quote from: Mord on November 09, 2015, 08:46:00 PM
Another good episode. That sewer scene was absolutely creepy. Hey, where's Christine?
I don't get creeped out anymore very much (I sure wish I did) I guess I am jaded, but It was good. I enjoyed the episode even if it was getting somewhat predictable. I very much enjoyed the sewer zombies. Even the "hero" zombies have been getting weak lately, it was good to see some real f/x effort back on the show with the sewer zombies again; still didn't top the bicycle walker from season one.
I think all the zombies should be that gooey, much better than just some extras with hollow looking eyes and gray face paint and a rip or tear or two.
Here is my zombie get up illustrating that point (extra extra gooey) that I did for this year's comic con "zombie walk"
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Gross zombie, ravenloft! (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
This weeks episode was a kind of catch your breath episode.
That Zombie make-up is awesome Ravenloft, wouldn't look out of place on the show!
Does anybody else find the Deanna character a little creepy? I keep thinking she's about to turn governer-ess at any minute! And does anyone in Alexandria (besides Morgan) know there's a psycho with bad intentions and even worse teeth half-heartedly tied up in one of the homes?
Quote from: long live kong on November 10, 2015, 02:19:18 PM
Does anybody else find the Deanna character a little creepy?
She seems to have popped her cork after the Wolves invasion and now the hoards outside the fence.
Quote from: long live kong on November 10, 2015, 02:19:18 PM
And does anyone in Alexandria (besides Morgan) know there's a psycho with bad intentions and even worse teeth half-heartedly tied up in one of the homes?
It appears to be his secret!
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 10, 2015, 02:28:29 PM
She seems to have popped her cork after the Wolves invasion and now the hoards outside the fence.
Thing is, she's given me the creeps since day one! She has a beady look in her eye...like a headteacher or a dentist.
The following is just some scenarios I have been thinking about. I have read nothing about this. It is just me typing my thoughts. I am thinking that the Glenn situation is just to distract us. I think he might still be alive and that there might be another big death or shocker in the story coming. I was thinking what if the Wolf guy escapes and kills Carl or causes Judith's death, directly or indirectly. Then, Rick finds out that Morgan was keeping the wolf guy all along in a less than secure holding area. Just some things to think about.
Quote from: the_horror_man on November 10, 2015, 02:43:06 PM
The following is just some scenarios I have been thinking about. I have read nothing about this. It is just me typing my thoughts. I am thinking that the Glenn situation is just to distract us. I think he might still be alive and that there might be another big death or shocker in the story coming. I was thinking what if the Wolf guy escapes and kills Carl or causes Judith's death, directly or indirectly. Then, Rick finds out that Morgan was keeping the wolf guy all along in a less than secure holding area. Just some things to think about.
I'm thinking the doctors son (forget his name) is going to try to kill Carl, since Rick killed his dad.
Quote from: ravenloft on November 09, 2015, 10:47:28 PM
I don't get creeped out anymore very much (I sure wish I did) I guess I am jaded, but It was good. I enjoyed the episode even if it was getting somewhat predictable. I very much enjoyed the sewer zombies. Even the "hero" zombies have been getting weak lately, it was good to see some real f/x effort back on the show with the sewer zombies again; still didn't top the bicycle walker from season one.
I think all the zombies should be that gooey, much better than just some extras with hollow looking eyes and gray face paint and a rip or tear or two.
Here is my zombie get up illustrating that point (extra extra gooey) that I did for this year's comic con "zombie walk"
Awesome costume!
thm
Quote from: long live kong on November 10, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
Thing is, she's given me the creeps since day one! She has a beady look in her eye...like a headteacher or a dentist.
She's worse than a headteacher or a dentist. She's a - choke -
congresswoman!
I just read over at IMDB that Jeffrey Dean Morgan will be playing Negan.
**Ahem** I HOPE CAROL TAKES NEGAN'S BAT AWAY AND KILLS HIM WITH IT BEFORE HE EVEN GETS STARTED. CHARACTER IS ATROCIOUS.
Now that I have that out of my system. In season 2 of WD, glenn runs for the car when he and Rick and Herschel are cut off by Randall's group at the bar. he falls behind a dumpster, and doesnt move. They think he's been shot and killed. He was fine. He just froze. Foreshadowing...lol? 8) 8)
Hope Glenn's fine. Hate Negan. Dont even want him on the show if hes the wretch he is in the comics. :angel: :angel: :angel:
No comments on last night's episode yet???
I'm down. Maybe they jumped the shark, but I like the character and was happy to see it go down that way. Improbable? Of course. But any more improbable then the dead reanimating and triggering the apocalypse?
I was just gonna post.
!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!
You guys (you know who you are) were right! Glenn found to only dumpster that sets more that 4" off the ground. And yes, it was the other guy's guts 'n gore.
Glad he's back! Never wanted him to croak,
OK, who knocked over the tower? Townsperson? Wolf? Smart zombie? And why were they tearing off boards from the top and then it tips over from the bottom?
Just started watching ep7! He lives! (For now at least).
Yeah way too easy for Glenn, but we kinda all knew it.... figure we lose a main character next week. The truck rammed the tower I believe... never had time to check it after that... look for that fuel truck to play a part in next weeks episode... this was a good one, anyone else sick of stick guys rationale? He won't quit til someone else gets killed for his principals
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 23, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
I was just gonna post.
!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!
You guys (you know who you are) were right! Glenn found to only dumpster that sets more that 4" off the ground. And yes, it was the other guy's guts 'n gore.
OK, who knocked over the tower? Townsperson? Wolf? Smart zombie? And why were they tearing off boards from the top and then it tips over from the bottom?
Galactus. ;)
Quote from: jimm on November 23, 2015, 05:06:52 PM
anyone else sick of stick guys rationale? He won't quit til someone else gets killed for his principals
Yep. He just doesn't get it does he. The undead world is not the best place to be Buddhist.
Quote from: jimm on November 23, 2015, 05:06:52 PM
The truck rammed the tower I believe...
Oh yeah, you're right! I forgot about that. So, it just fell over on it's own.
Improbable, but highly enjoyable. I'm sure glad that Glenn is still around (not to mention, snotty little Enid).
Glenn lives and Glenn is glad...both of us. ;)
The world is so much better with Glenn in it (both of them).
Quote from: Mord on November 23, 2015, 08:27:10 PM
The world is so much better with Glenn in it (both of them).
Thanks buddy! ;D
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 23, 2015, 07:03:35 PM
Oh yeah, you're right! I forgot about that. So, it just fell over on it's own.
Yeah getting rammed by a Semi will do it .... we heard it cracking all episode
Being in the camp that knew Glenn crawled under the dumpster....I must defend the writers a bit. Those writers probably know of the old school type of dumpsters that sat on wheels. If I am not mistaken, a friend of mine still has one of those things on his property. Its an old drive in thats been converted to a truck stop lot. :angel:
I'm glad Glenn is still with us. And I liked the way the writers had him stab the walkers in the head that tried to get at him under the dumpster. Their bodies sealed the gap so no other walkers could get to him, and also masked his scent.
Quote from: ravenloft on October 27, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
No way he is dead.
Wasn't on talking dead as a guest or as a who got killed in the episode thingy, they left an out (under the dumpster) or another distraction to peel the zombie off (loud noises or whatever), clearly the guy noone cared about and wished dead landed on top of him so it wasn't his guts, we have seen the guts smear throw off zombies before and what Anton said about the tank/horse parallel rings true enough to believe, they are way off his comic book ending already, he wasn't used as the shocker death to introduce the new baddie like he was in the comics yet etc. etc.
He is seriously the reason why some people watch the show because he is relatable and likable, an instant fan favorite rivaled perhaps only by Daryl's character. They would be shooting their own foot to get rid of him and have a significant chunk of the viewers suddenly lose interest or not be emotionally involved anymore, which is why I think they changed things from the comic already.
He is my favorite on the show.
;) 8)
Called it.
Come on no one actually believed he was dead right?
one thing that has always bugged me, is how vocal the zombies are. I mean, sure it is a science fiction show and it isn't reality, but unless they are breathing using their lungs they just wouldn't be making moans and or "uggggh" noises now would they? Their lungs would be empty (alveoli shriveled) or fluid filled and they would not have the ability to force air past vocal chords. Said vocal chords would be steadily withering/desiccating/decaying/rotting to the point of putrifaction or reduction to dust anyway so such time as a corpse could make noise would be limited. Actually they probably would be making flatulence and belching noises due to gas bloat (at least the fresher zombies) as real corpses still "pass gas" (a bacterial decay byproduct) the conventional way through natural apertures they have at least until they distend and burst.
I think zombies should be all shuffling sounds and "quiet as the dead" it would actually be scarier that way.
Quote from: ravenloft on November 24, 2015, 04:42:57 PM
I mean, sure it is a science fiction show and it isn't reality,
I think you hit the nail on the head! (Or drove a nail into a head.) ;D
Quote from: jimm on November 24, 2015, 01:12:09 AM
Yeah getting rammed by a Semi will do it .... we heard it cracking all episode
Yeah,so why didn't anyone else? Seems like anytime they get someplace to call home it gets screwed up by over site or sheer stupidity. :o
No time between attack and Zombie occupation.... Still though..
Quote from: ravenloft on November 24, 2015, 04:42:57 PM
one thing that has always bugged me, is how vocal the zombies are. I mean, sure it is a science fiction show and it isn't reality, but unless they are breathing using their lungs they just wouldn't be making moans and or "uggggh" noises now would they? Their lungs would be empty (alveoli shriveled) or fluid filled and they would not have the ability to force air past vocal chords. Said vocal chords would be steadily withering/desiccating/decaying/rotting to the point of putrifaction or reduction to dust anyway so such time as a corpse could make noise would be limited. Actually they probably would be making flatulence and belching noises due to gas bloat (at least the fresher zombies) as real corpses still "pass gas" (a bacterial decay byproduct) the conventional way through natural apertures they have at least until they distend and burst.
I think zombies should be all shuffling sounds and "quiet as the dead" it would actually be scarier that way.
Somebody also made the point that they wouldn't be able to hear anything due to deterioration of the inner ear. I'd also say the same thing about their eyes which would be the first to go as they rotted. You just have to roll with the fantasy.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on November 25, 2015, 11:31:35 AM
Somebody also made the point that they wouldn't be able to hear anything due to deterioration of the inner ear. I'd also say the same thing about their eyes which would be the first to go as they rotted. You just have to roll with the fantasy.
In our camp
suspension of disbelief is our most valuable asset. ;)
Quote from: Gory Glenn on November 25, 2015, 11:31:35 AM
Somebody also made the point that they wouldn't be able to hear anything due to deterioration of the inner ear. I'd also say the same thing about their eyes which would be the first to go as they rotted. You just have to roll with the fantasy.
That would be me. I've an overly analytical mind,lol. :angel:
More perplexing is how Abraham gets all the chicks.
Quote from: horrorhunter on November 25, 2015, 01:13:14 PM
In our camp suspension of disbelief is our most valuable asset. ;)
Without it, just about every "Twilight Zone" & "Outer Limits" episode would be discredited.
From a real science perspective, not only would they not make respiratory sounds, see or hear very well, they would not be able to walk after being dead for about a week in any type of heat.
After about a week or more, they would be so badly decomposed that movement would be restricted to writhing around on the ground they were stuck to.
Love the show however, Carl.....loose the deputy hat!!!!
Suspension of disbelief? How about the fact that when the brain is destroyed (stabbed, bashed or shot) the zombies cease to function; how long do we really think a brain would function before rot destroys it? Most of those walkers wouldn't be functional long before someone ends there brain.
I watched this last night, I hoped Glenn was still alive, but I had my doubts. If I'd have survived what Glenn did, I think I would have left Enid once she pulled the gun on me. She wants to be on her own that much I'll gladly open the door for her.
What did you all think of the half season finale?
Why didn't Deanna save a bullet for herself? Now she's gonna by a zombie, so that last kill didn't help anybody!
Why isn't Glenn doing what Rick wanted to do, find a way to draw the walkers to another location, instead of trying to find a way in ?
Why was nobody "shushing" the little idiot kid at the end?
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 30, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
What did you all think of the half season finale?
Why was nobody "shushing" the little idiot kid at the end?
"Shushing"? I was hoping someone would go Rick Grimes on him and snap his neck.
Quote from: Mord on November 30, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
"Shushing"? I was hoping someone would go Rick Grimes on him and snap his neck.
That would be a way of shushing him. ;D
Quote from: Mord on November 30, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
"Shushing"? I was hoping someone would go Rick Grimes on him and snap his neck.
He is becoming SO annoying.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on November 30, 2015, 08:29:31 PM
He is becoming SO annoying.
I find that true of most kids. Have you ever seen "The Babadook"?
Enjoyed the finale overall, but when Morgan and Carol squared off I yelled at the tv "Kill him Carol!" I'm sick to death of his peaceful zen ninja routine.
Quote from: Mord on December 01, 2015, 12:20:24 AM
I find that true of most kids. Have you ever seen "The Babadook"?
I want to see the film. I will eventually. Is it worth seeing?
Quote from: marsattacks666 on December 01, 2015, 07:01:56 PM
I want to see the film. I will eventually. Is it worth seeing?
It is. The reason I mentioned it, was because of the kid in the film. He makes the Walking Dead kid seem like a real charmer in comparison. The film is good, but would have been much more tolerable had the annoying kid been toned down a bit. I call it "the Donnie Dunagan syndrome" ("Son of Frankenstein"). That's when an obnoxious kid mars an otherwise great movie.
Quote from: Mord on December 01, 2015, 08:04:21 PM
It is. The reason I mentioned it, was because of the kid in the film. He makes the Walking Dead kid seem like a real charmer in comparison. The film is good, but would have been much more tolerable had the annoying kid been toned down a bit. I call it "the Donnie Dunagan syndrome" ("Son of Frankenstein"). That's when an obnoxious kid mars an otherwise great movie.
Well Helloooo......
Don't diss the Dunagan. ;) Met him at Monsterpalooza. Nice guy with some cool stories about "Son of".
Quote from: Gory Glenn on December 02, 2015, 11:27:58 AM
Well Helloooo......
Don't diss the Dunagan. ;) Met him at Monsterpalooza. Nice guy with some cool stories about "Son of".
Well, hellooo back at ya. Nice guy indeed (I just don't like the impetuous moptop he portrayed in the film).
It's not getting any easier for the group is it bless em? They've now got the Wolves and the new gang of bad guys to contend with, and all whilst carrying a bunch of buffoons who can't fight! I feel I have to mention Eugene at this time...the man seriously needs to start pulling his weight. Picking a lock doesn't count. Completey useless. I think I'd be giving up on town life and heading for the hills, like the Waltons.
Quote from: Mord on December 02, 2015, 02:51:14 PM
Well, hellooo back at ya. Nice guy indeed (I just don't like the impetuous moptop he portrayed in the film).
Don't know if you caught the reference but it always cracked me up in "Son of" when the little boy walks in as his parents are having breakfast and says that "Well Helloooo!" line as he walks in. ;D
Quote from: Gory Glenn on December 02, 2015, 03:08:59 PM
Don't know if you caught the reference but it always cracked me up in "Son of" when the little boy walks in as his parents are having breakfast and says that "Well Helloooo!" line as he walks in. ;D
I totally got it (it is permanently engraved in my brain). That's why I sent it back at ya. I would love to make that my new ringtone or answering machine message.
Is it just me, or was The Shock Monster and the EC Quicksand Zombie both in tonight's Walking Dead mid-season premiere? Sure looked like them to me.
Nice plan Rick.. He gets dumber by the episode
Quote from: Anton Phibes on February 14, 2016, 10:14:52 PM
Is it just me, or was The Shock Monster and the EC Quicksand Zombie both in tonight's Walking Dead mid-season premiere? Sure looked like them to me.
Someone at https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagemonstertoys/?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagemonstertoys/?fref=nf) posted the Shock Zombie, not sure about the EC reference...I missed them both.
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Yup...thats Shock Monster! The Quicksand Zombie is hit in the face with a shovel...if I am not mistaken a few seconds later by an Alexandrian red shirt.
That's pretty awesome. I haven't watched the episode yet. I'll be keeping a lookout for Shock. Looks like he's a white-haired Shocky, too. It would have been even more fun if they had found a context for a blue-haired version that made sense. Maybe he could have been dressed in punk clothes.
I keep hoping for a complete departure from the comic story line because I think it will be the demise of the show or at least the popularity of the show will drastically decline. I am not excited for Negan or the developments that happened last episode at all.
I actually pretty much hate the comic. There. I said it. But I like the show. I hope it runs away from what is forthcoming for the main cast as well. Please deviate from the comic. Especially with regards to Glenn. But...uhm....Carl got it like he did in the comics. So it aint looking good.
Quote from: ravenloft on February 16, 2016, 02:31:54 PM
I am not excited for Negan or the developments that happened last episode at all.
I thought we didn't have to worry about Negan anymore.
Quote from: Mord on February 17, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
I thought we didn't have to worry about Negan anymore.
I think those guys were only Negan minions.
Quote from: Mike Scott on February 17, 2016, 03:12:27 PM
I think those guys were only Negan minions.
Correct, Negan (played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan) has not been formerly introduced as of yet.
Strange no one noticed or heard the life and death tussel between Darrell and the minion behind the truck?
Or saw or reacted to the RPG zooming into their midst! We don't know much about Daryl's background - obviously, he's got a long history as a weapons expert, knowing how to set the fuse on some kind of proximity basis for that air-blast in the middle of the bikers instead of impact-blast at one of the bikes. Whew. We're soooo lucky. Of course, if the writers had let big ol' Sarge do it, we saw that he was handy with RPG launchers.
The only question I've got, "Will Negan be ended at this half-season, or continue for another half - or will the writers drag him out for 3 full half-seasons?"
Darn - I was hoping to see Carl has half-his-skull amputated by Negan's nail-studded bat, too. I wanted to see that big ol' hat flop around on half-a-skull.
I'd like to see Morgan get killed off pretty soon as the writers portray him as nothing but a damn fool who's actions constantly put others in jeopardy..we already have one guy for that in the form of Rick, so who needs a copycat? ???
Got that right... Both dumb as rocks
Quote from: Memphremagog on February 20, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
I'd like to see Morgan get killed off pretty soon as the writers portray him as nothing but a damn fool who's actions constantly put others in jeopardy..we already have one guy for that in the form of Rick, so who needs a copycat? ???
I've thought Morgan might be suffer another "separated from" group-event and then perhaps he'd be brought back in another "calvary charge saves the day" episodes. That actor (Lennie James) has the most active IMDB credits among any cast member (short of John Carroll Lynch, the 'mentor savior' of Morgan in his HERE'S NOT HERE episode).
Getting rid of Morgan wouldn't mean the unemployment rolls would be exacerbated that much!
It's interesting to see the current 'core cast' with "in production" or "post-production" credits on IMDB. In some WD forums, there are arguments that claim this indicates a brevity of WD lifespan for that character. Norman Reedus, however, has done some few-character films (AIR, for example, essentially a 2-person film) and yet retains on-screen life. For now.
Two months have gone by and I guess Carl's convalescence from his grievous eye trauma is over. Dude has no game with that comic book buddy chick of his. Death count was pretty low this time, they almost didn't have anything for the "remembering those we lost" clip on the talking dead. Character time was low too, many actors were a no show this episode. I do like the "raiding for supplies" (shades of The Road by Cormac McCarthy) episodes much better rather than the zombie suburbs episodes.
I like the new guy he is slick and capable (and dangerous), hard to believe Daryl fell for his crap over and over, while Rick being strangely overly trusting this time around is no surprise, he is kinda dense and all. Saw everything coming a million miles away in this highly predictable episode.
I'm constantly disappointed in the dialog. Rick and Daryl talking about "seeking out others" and their flipflop views on that. Neither of them ever asks "Why?" The simple question, "Why?"
"Daryl, what is it about this Paul-Jesus guy that you don't care for?" That never occurs. Du-uh... taxing the writers to come up with imaginative scripts is obviously something they work hard to avoid.
So, we're about 2 years behind the comics, I think, is that right? I can't get over any "shock & awe" over the "Richhone" hookup. Jeez... that was indeed 2 years ago in the comics. How could anyone IN THE CAST be 'caught unawares'?!! Well, I guess that's why they're actors doing Promo's.
Last night's episode was excellent. Maggie & Carol have become so bad-ass. I also loved Alicia Witt's character. Her demise was worthy of a Hammer Films Dracula exit. I know there's a lot of nit-picky people here who find fault in anything that happens on this show. I, for one, am very glad it exists. With two babies, they can keep this thing going for another generation. Repopulate the zombie apocalypse!
Very good "character" episode (but with plenty of time left for zombies). Too bad Alicia Witt's character was dispatched before we got to know her better.
Did anybody else picture an army of Neganittes coming to the rescue only to have 2 guys show up?
Quote from: Mord on March 14, 2016, 01:14:26 AM
Last night's episode was excellent. Maggie & Carol have become so bad-ass. I also loved Alicia Witt's character. Her demise was worthy of a Hammer Films Dracula exit. I know there's a lot of nit-picky people here who find fault in anything that happens on this show. I, for one, am very glad it exists. With two babies, they can keep this thing going for another generation. Repopulate the zombie apocalypse!
I'm with you all the way on this. I enjoy this show more than any other on TV these days. It was cool the way the viewer knew all along that Carol was faking weakness which left us to wonder "when and how will she make her move"? Very cool episode.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 14, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
Very good "character" episode (but with plenty of time left for zombies). Too bad Alicia Witt's character was dispatched before we got to know her better.
Agreed. She was "very interesting".
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You're not the good guys... Best line of the episode, and something to ponder
Quote from: jimm on March 14, 2016, 10:53:49 AM
You're not the good guys... Best line of the episode, and something to ponder
Well, you know what they say. Every villain is the hero of his own story!
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 14, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
Very good "character" episode (but with plenty of time left for zombies). Too bad Alicia Witt's character was dispatched before we got to know her better.
Did anybody else picture an army of Neganittes coming to the rescue only to have 2 guys show up?
What was the quote?
: we are Negan or we are all Negan
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 14, 2016, 02:56:22 PM
I think that was it.
I wasn't sure. Thanks, Mike.
That quote creeped me out.
Wow! Anyone else blown away by that "moment" last night? Really didn't see that coming.
Quote from: Mord on March 21, 2016, 03:39:20 PM
Wow! Anyone else blown away by that "moment" last night? Really didn't see that coming.
(spoiler alert) I assume you mean the arrow incident? That scene was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen on the Walking Dead. Actually, in general. It was not only the surprise of the arrow, but when she uttered another word or 2 to finish her sentence. It was so real. Like the brain had already sent the message and even with the arrow, she still finished it. It was quite disturbing. Actually it has resonated with me since I saw it. If she had not uttered that last word or 2, I don't think it would have been nearly as bad.
thm
Exactly! With so many killings in the show, it's hard for one to have an impact. This one definitely did. I've thought about it many times after viewing it. It seemed so real. Hey, how about the "wiener-fest"? What a crack up!
Quote from: Mord on March 21, 2016, 03:39:20 PM
Wow! Anyone else blown away by that "moment" last night? Really didn't see that coming.
I was totally shocked, and did not see that one coming. Wow! The Walking Dead keeps becoming a little darker with each episode. The
latest episode proves to expect the unexpected. I mean....in the past
we can only surmise which character will die. By Denise dying, that really shocked to the senses.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 21, 2016, 05:39:42 PM
I was totally shocked, and did not see that one coming. Wow! The Walking Dead keeps becoming a little darker with each episode. The
latest episode proves to expect the unexpected. I mean....in the past
we can only surmise which character will die. By Denise dying, that really shocked to the senses.
You're right. At this point, no death would shock me (not even Rick's). I like that. Most shows the heroes are invincible. There's not much suspense in that. In this show, anyone goes. They could even kill off a pregnant Maggie or even Rick's baby.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 21, 2016, 05:39:42 PM
I was totally shocked, and did not see that one coming.
Same here, especially at that moment when she was just finishing her speech and then . . zing! Shocker!
Now the group is without a doctor, such as she was. Time to put up some flyers.
Yeah, the dick bite was funny! Eugene earned his stripes for that. :laugh:
Mord-
I agree anything goes at this point in the series.
Mike-
Omf! That s*** was funny! Eugene was thinking with his head. ( pun intended)
The arrow death was lifted almost exactly ftom the comic. They've seemed to have a few more of those this season imo. Of course it was an entirely different character that dies in that scene in the book but the show has always seemed to take those pivotal moments from the comic and put a twist on them with another character
Quote from: Mord on March 21, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Exactly! With so many killings in the show, it's hard for one to have an impact. This one definitely did. I've thought about it many times after viewing it. It seemed so real. Hey, how about the "wiener-fest"? What a crack up!
Yes, the wiener scene seem to go on for a very long time. Probably felt longer if you were on the receiving end. lol That arrow scene is still resonating with me. As mentioned, mostly because she uttered one or two words after the arrow went through her.
thm
So was that the guy who stole the bike? Don't recall him being quite so scuzzy...
I thought Denise was going to get shot earlier right after she killed the zombie and was still standing by the car; I just had a feeling that they were setting something up with the prolonged arguing in the middle of the train tracks. Any other episode Daryl would have been moving that party along, knowing that-that was not the best place to be having a discussion.
Quote from: zombiehorror on March 23, 2016, 09:02:20 PM
I thought Denise was going to get shot earlier right after she killed the zombie and was still standing by the car; I just had a feeling that they were setting something up with the prolonged arguing in the middle of the train tracks. Any other episode Daryl would have been moving that party along, knowing that-that was not the best place to be having a discussion.
Good Scooby-Doo'ng, Zombiehorror. That episode made me quite sad.
Denise seemed like a troubled soul. Her inability to adjust to Zombie-life
solidified her death and future as a secondary character Just my opinion...
I blame Carol for last night's clusterf***. If she hadn't gone, no one would have left the compound. Enough of this pacifist crap...it's the freakin' Zombie apocalypse!
Quote from: Mord on March 28, 2016, 11:57:00 AM
I blame Carol for last night's clusterf***. If she hadn't left, no one would left the compound.
The only ones who went after Carol were Rick and Morgan. Rick came back and Morgan is fine, as far as we know. Daryl, on the other hand, went on a mission to capture/kill Dwight and got 4 people (including himself) captured by the Saviors.
Last night's episode.....meh.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on March 28, 2016, 01:17:03 PM
Last night's episode.....meh.
Agreed. It's the weakest this season. I'm getting tired of the "good guys held captive" episodes. I'm also tired of characters leaving (or being forced to leave) and coming back with drama.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 28, 2016, 12:13:22 PM
The only ones who went after Carol were Rick and Morgan. Rick came back and Morgan is fine, as far as we know. Daryl, on the other hand, went on a mission to capture/kill Dwight and got 4 people (including himself) captured by the Saviors.
You're right, of course. That was a real lunkhead move on Daryl's part. I bet one of the four get killed in the finale. Of course, it wont be Daryl (unless they don't mind losing 90% of the female viewers).
Once again they are writing Daryl like he is some clueless lunkhead; it was convenient to do so to kill off Denise and now to get himself and Rosita captured. I guess he was supposed to be underestimating the Saviors tactical abilities? They also yet again used two fairly level headed characters as idiots having Glenn and Michonne discuss crap in the middle of the woods knowing that the Saviors are out there.
Anyone else see a similarity between Carol and Norman on Bates Motel? I kept telling the wife she was gonna have another "Norman" moment and she did in a big way. At this point she's like Bill Bixby, pleading for people not to make her angry.
You know the Saviors are coming for you, Batten down the hatches. Lunkheads
What weapon did Carol have exactly... Made her look like the man with no name
Quote from: jimm on March 28, 2016, 10:10:43 PM
What weapon did Carol have exactly...
Sure sounded like a fully automatic one.
Quote from: Mike Scott on March 28, 2016, 10:33:29 PM
Sure sounded like a fully automatic one.
Sounded like an Uzi which would be small enough to hide like that.
Quote from: zombiehorror on March 28, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Once again they are writing Daryl like he is some clueless lunkhead; it was convenient to do so to kill off Denise and now to get himself and Rosita captured. I guess he was supposed to be underestimating the Saviors tactical abilities? They also yet again used two fairly level headed characters as idiots having Glenn and Michonne discuss crap in the middle of the woods knowing that the Saviors are out there.
Anyone else see a similarity between Carol and Norman on Bates Motel? I kept telling the wife she was gonna have another "Norman" moment and she did in a big way. At this point she's like Bill Bixby, pleading for people not to make her angry.
I like the Bill Bixby reference. :)
Quote from: Mord on March 28, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Agreed. It's the weakest this season. I'm getting tired of the "good guys held captive" episodes. I'm also tired of characters leaving (or being forced to leave) and coming back with drama.
I agree. I rarely criticize the show, but I was screaming at the tv screen last episode. Rick says "he doesn't take chances anymore." Really? That's why you and Morgan leave the sanctuary and waste precious fuel, looking for someone who said 'leave her alone?' And three people have to go after Daryl? Come on. Seems like the writers are trying to manufacture extra drama when they don't need to. There's enough drama every time they go on a supply run. There's enough drama considering they're surrounded by hostile bandit groups and hordes of walkers. IMO you don't need to recycle the same story-line where someone has a meltdown, they go rogue and take other members down with them.
Still my fav show, but this was first big disagreement I had with the writers.
I don't read TWD comic, but I have a general familiarity with the plot. The comic basically stalls out at this point and becomes a battle of the warlords scenario that doesn't really go anywhere, and the show has now reached that point. With the walkers now practically falling apart and a small group of people able to overcome a horde in hand to hand combat they're no longer the threat they once were. Now it's down to a good survivors vs. bad survivors scenario and that's a limited concept. Two more seasons tops and this show is done. There's simply nowhere for it to go once the warlord scenario plays out.
I stopped watching it once "Jesus" was introduced. ::) There's a limit to my tolerance for some things. Particularly the creator's tantrum/and/or therapy. ::). Its apparent Robert Kirkman has had a bad experience with church or church attendees somewhere in life. His granny probably forced him to go or something equally "traumatizing" to him. So, he takes a jab. Yawn. His familiarity with hymns by having a "mansion on a hilltop" (sorry Elvis, RIP) be the new group's base isn't lost on me either. Plus calling the opposite group "Saviors"? It isn't exactly a subtle narrative,lol. ;) 8)
Its just more of the same tired old rhetoric of "lets be controversial and lash out.... at the one group who will just shrug it off." Unless you are Westboro Baptist Church. :angel:
Its a good thing Hershel's already dead. This would've given him a heart attack,lol.
While I am not Boris Karloff in "The Lost Patrol", I do believe there are good people who attend church, so he crossed a personal poor taste line with me.
But I digress. Thats only one reason I quit. I got tired of the characters I liked getting killed off in the most horrifying ways. Hershel was one of my faves. Now Carol is. I also like Glenn. I know what happens in the comics to Glenn. I aint hanging around for that. Or for Carol's inevitable termination either. So--I am out. I will read the spoilers here each week and save time.
If this breaches the protocols regarding religious discussions in some way....just delete the post.
Alright! Who got killed last night? In the comics it was Glenn, but do you think the producers will make it that obvious?
If not:
You know it wasn't Glenn, or Maggie, because neither would have been able to comply with the "no screaming" order.
I think it's pretty obvious it wouldn't be Rick, or Carl.
You know it won't be Daryl. The female fans would turn zombie on the producers!
Michonne seems much too popular to get the baby seal treatment.
So who's left? Sasha? Abraham? Eugene? Aaron?
When Negan starts beating the person, he says "taking it like a champ" (just like in the comic), which suggests Abraham (of the remaining 4).
What think ye?
My bet is on Maggie getting her head smashed in. Why? Because in the "Talking Dead", Kirkman said something like clues were mentioned as to who was going to get it while Negan was addressing them.
I believe he told Rick he only wanted people that were "fit". Maggie ain't fit right now and Negan made that quite clear.
To me, that was a pretty crummy episode for a finale. A cheap cliffhanger by making us wait to find out who bought it.
Quote from: Jethro on April 04, 2016, 02:49:44 PM
I believe he told Rick he only wanted people that were "fit". Maggie ain't fit
I sure hope you're wrong. I would pick Aaron, because I'm not as attached to him as I am the others. Of course, the prods. are not going to make it that easy on me. :P
Logic would lead me to think it's either Maggie (too fragile) or Glenn (to follow the comic plotline), but I don't think it is. My gut tells me it's gonna be Eugene. The whole episode was used to build up his status as a courageous fighter. Abraham told him that he was wrong about his original assessment (that he truly is a "survivor"). He was even trusted to drive the RV. This is the type of glory that is usually bestowed upon an exiting character. I really hope I'm wrong, though. I really like Eugene.
Quote from: Mord on April 04, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
My gut tells me it's gonna be Eugene.
Your reasoning is sound and you may be right! I had a feeling Eugene was gonna die when he went off on his own. It didn't happen the way I thought it would, but he still may have got it in the end.
Eugene, for the same reasoning(s).
I'm thinking Eugene. Before he took off in the RV, he gave Rick the plans for making bullets so he is no longer necessary.
I feel it's Abraham. Only because what he said to Sasha in the R.V.
The person killed won't be any of the four untouchables (Rick; Carl; Daryl; Michonne). If the show isn't going to follow the comic then I think it's Abraham who Negan kills. If memory serves, Negan said something about killing the strongest. And as Negan was walking the line and got to Abraham Abe straightened up and looked Negan in the face defiantly. But I agree that leaving us hanging until next season was a cheap cliffhanger.
What's with the dopey look on Rick's face as Negan's dressing them down... Some leader...
Quote from: jimm on April 05, 2016, 09:21:31 AM
What's with the dopey look on Rick's face as Negan's dressing them down...
He thinks he has just doomed them all.
A very disturbing way to end the 6th season. I thought Jeffrey Dean Morgan was amazing. I knew he was going to be because of his role in the "Watchmen" as the "Comedian" who was kind of a sadistic pr**k as well. One viewer made a comment on who died that I thought was funny.
QuoteIt was clearly the camera man... RIP Camera Man
Here's an interesting interview with Andrew Lincoln on the final episode.
http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/2016/04/walking_dead_star_andrew_lincoln_talks_negans_victim_brutally (http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/2016/04/walking_dead_star_andrew_lincoln_talks_negans_victim_brutally)
And here's some speculation on who might have bit the big one.
http://www.thewrap.com/walking-dead-11-theories-on-who-negan-killed/ (http://www.thewrap.com/walking-dead-11-theories-on-who-negan-killed/)
Quote from: Gory Glenn on April 05, 2016, 10:50:19 AM
And here's some speculation on who might have bit the big one.
And proof that it won't be Rick or Carl.
Negan says, "If anybody says anything, cut the boy's other eye out and feed it to his father," right before he bludgeons his victim to death.
Can't do either of those things if one of them is dead.
The show is about Rick, he can't die or the show ends. He can't make sound decisions either though, his role as leader has run it's course.
Carl is fairly safe, even though he had a extra scene with the girl and whatnot, it was not a bow out for him he has too many loose ends with character development and it would rehash Rick going nuts after his wife bought it.
Eugene and Abraham both got some extra screen time in a character redemption sense, so one or the other is most definitely likely toast. Abe had the "I am ready to be a daddy" moment and the mullet had the "you are a survivor, I'll be your anchorman" moments. They aren't main cast per se, but have been regulars enough lately to make either of their deaths poignant enough for the cheap cliff hanger.
Daryl basically causes the group to get captured and he felt guilty over Denise's death because of his previous actions, so how would he feel now? Would he crack up like Carol? Norman Reedus has a new show about motorcycles so maybe he is really leaving the show; he wasn't even in the comics anyway so it makes sense to select him over Glen for a surprising plot twist outcome. He may be a fan favorite that would certainly shake up the demographic of viewers somewhat, but if any of the female cast were actually bludgeoned to death while their friends stood helplessly by, that would be worse from a 'potential for losing female viewers' perspective I would think, I seriously doubt the writers would ever go there. Daryl dying is much more likely than any of the girls.
Glen who dies by Neegan's hand in the comics is ironically safe because multiple sources from the show itself have said twist ending so that practically says it can't be him, besides Neegan would want to test him after watching him break previously anyway. Maggie is safe, we have invested too much into the Glen/Maggie/baby/what's wrong is she miscarrying storyline to just throw it away last moment when Neegan beats a sick pregnant woman to death, hardly appealing from a writer's perspective to carry on with the show in that narrative.
Michone just had the whole relationship thing development, it would be anti-climatic to end that after what two or three episodes? She has become a main cast member and has unique weaponry. so it ain't her either.
Nobody cares about the other actor from their town which is why I can't remember his name anyway so it certainly isn't him.
So that leaves us with four possible most likely candidates:
1. Eugene seems most likely to get a "wow taking it like a champ" Neegan response instead of Abe whom that might be expected from. He gets my vote.
2. Abe has already died in the comics by now (he got Denise's arrow death from what I understand) so he is highly expendable and probably doesn't have any future personal plotline to contribute as his love triangle isn't really going to be further developed. He is second most likely.
3. Daryl would be the sensational shocker that would really shake up the show (and possibly doom it in ratings.) He has no romantic interest and never really has, and his character and motives have stagnated somewhat. Also he wouldn't be able to restrain himself under Neegan's yoke even temporarily and that seems surely where the plot is headed. Could be a wow most people didn't see that coming bold jaw-dropper.
4. Glen, in the not-twist-ending-twist-ending is just tacky. He actually has seen the greatest character arc in development and is a strong contender for fan favorite so it would be cheap to taco his head after they just finished faking his death in the same season. Would be a very bad unimaginative move on the writer's part. Least likely out of the four most probable but still...
Quote from: ravenloft on April 05, 2016, 04:45:51 PM
The show is about Rick, he can't die or the show ends. He can't make sound decisions either though, his role as leader has run it's course.
You just threw cold water on your first point.
Quote from: ravenloft on April 05, 2016, 04:45:51 PM
1. Eugene seems most likely to get a "wow taking it like a champ" Neegan response instead of Abe whom that might be expected from. He gets my vote.
Mine too. I think the "taking it like a champ" line has doomed him.
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 05, 2016, 04:58:14 PM
You just threw cold water on your first point.
Well they did jabber on about how they want to tell a new story or take the story line in a new direction on the Talking Dead show, so Rick's death could be a huge surprise shocker, however I seriously doubt it, like I said, the show is about him, without him the show becomes it's own spin-off.
More importantly is Maggie's "I believe in you" speech which would be a ironic waste.
Neegan would want to make an example to the group and his group as well, especially so by showing that their leader would be helpless to stop it, if he beats Rick to death then the others would have to fall in with his troops as a natural course of action instead of plotting revenge or whatever. Neegan's comment saying feed the boy's eye to Rick seems to preclude any possibility of Rick dying unless the show is winding down/ending. Ain't gonna happen when we know they are going to milk this cash cow for every drop.
Wonder if I am the first to think of Knee-gan and a bad pun for Negan?
I change my vote!
It has to be Daryl because he is the one who would have emotional impact with the fans, to bring them to their knees so to speak. As Rick's right hand man it would drive the point of Negan's parading home to Rick. As plausible as Eugene's death is based on our sleuthing or Abe past his usefulness as a character is, they don't have as much universal appeal with fans.
excerpt of the interview with Andrew Lincoln;
"Have you spoken at all with the producers about how the show plans to keep it a secret or have they discussed anything about that with the cast?
That's the double edged sword of our show. As a victim of our success, people are very keen to know what happens next. We'll try our damndest [to keep it secret] because it's such an important and powerful moment that changes the landscape of "The Walking Dead." It would be a real shame if it got out."
Eugene or Abe's death could hardly be described as a powerful moment or changing the landscape of the show. Daryl is doomed.
Excerpt from Andrew Lincoln interview:
"There are many similarities between [Rick and Negan], but I do think there is morality still in Rick. It's morals and the sanctity of the people who he loves and fights for that are the driving force behind his decision-making. He is a ruthless, uncompromising and tenacious man who will stop at nothing -- we've seen it -- to keep these people alive. But I think he's met his match."
Can't be Rick.
Quote from: ravenloft on April 05, 2016, 05:36:58 PM
I change my vote!
It has to be Daryl because he is the one who would have emotional impact with the fans, to bring them to their knees so to speak. As Rick's right hand man it would drive the point of Negan's parading home to Rick. As plausible as Eugene's death is based on our sleuthing or Abe past his usefulness as a character is, they don't have as much universal appeal with fans.
Some people have speculated this as Norman Reedus is getting his own reality show called "Ride with Norman Reedus". I don't think this makes Daryl getting killed off a sure thing though as the reality show is only a 6 episode deal from what I've read. So apparently Norman is a bike enthusiast in real life.
http://www.etonline.com/news/175015_the_walking_dead_star_norman_reedus_has_a_brand_new_badass_show/ (http://www.etonline.com/news/175015_the_walking_dead_star_norman_reedus_has_a_brand_new_badass_show/)
I just don't see the writers and producers of TWD willing to risk the almost inevitable drop in ratings (not too mention incendiary fan backlash) that would result if they kill off the enormously popular Daryl Dixon, who's been by far the most interesting character for the bulk of the show's run. Especially in such an abrupt manner. But dang it would be a ballsy move! One thing's for certain: they do need to start offing some of the major characters to maintain credibility. Picking off more of the peripheral low-hanging fruit just ain't gonna cut it. But I'm not ready to see Daryl go!
Quote from: bromstaker on April 06, 2016, 09:09:53 AM
I just don't see the writers and producers of TWD willing to risk the almost inevitable drop in ratings (not too mention incendiary fan backlash) that would result if they kill off the enormously popular Daryl Dixon, who's been by far the most interesting character for the bulk of the show's run. Especially in such an abrupt manner. But dang it would be a ballsy move! One thing's for certain: they do need to start offing some of the major characters to maintain credibility. Picking off more of the peripheral low-hanging fruit just ain't gonna cut it. But I'm not ready to see Daryl go!
I just watched "Talking Dead" and the host Chris Hardwick mentioned Norman's new show. He said and I'm paraphrasing here, "so, your new show is just you riding motorcycles across the country". Then he high fived Norman. Then he said "I hope AMC is handing out free vibrators for this!". Norman couldn't believe it and the whole room was roaring with laughter, especially Jeffrey Dean Morgan. ;D
Quote from: Gory Glenn on April 05, 2016, 06:14:39 PM
Some people have speculated this as Norman Reedus is getting his own reality show called "Ride with Norman Reedus". I don't think this makes Daryl getting killed off a sure thing though as the reality show is only a 6 episode deal from what I've read. So apparently Norman is a bike enthusiast in real life.
Daryl's not going anywhere. I really don't think that the producers are ready to kill off their most popular character (though, I said the same thing about Shane). If they did, it would be the boldest move so far. Btw, the Walking Dead finale was the second most watched show last week according to Nielsen (#1 in the desirable youth demographic).
Quote from: Mord on April 06, 2016, 07:50:34 PM
Btw, the Walking Dead finale was the second most watched show last week according to Nielsen.
Wow! Of all television?
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 06, 2016, 10:26:51 PM
Wow! Of all television?
Yep, including all the major networks. When I was a kid watching "Night of the Living Dead", I could only dream of watching good zombie entertainment every week.
Anyone else find "Fear" a bit lacking?
Quote from: jimm on April 25, 2016, 01:14:20 AM
Anyone else find "Fear" a bit lacking?
I just got TV back with a cheap 2 year lock that's practically as cheap as just phone and internet. Just started watching
Fear so I'll give it some time before I make a judgement, but it is interesting enough for me to stick with it for awhile. It isn't
The Walking Dead, but then nothing else on TV is.
I caught up on season 6 of
The Walking Dead on AMC's website. Some people give the show a hard time, but I think it's the best current show on TV. I'm looking forward to October to see how they deal with this little slice of hell they're trapped in.
The Walking Dead Powers That Be are pretty ballsy about killing off characters, but if they bump off Daryl or Rick it will surprise the caca outta me. Those characters are bank, dude. ;)
Quote from: jimm on April 25, 2016, 01:14:20 AM
Anyone else find "Fear" a bit lacking?
Yeah, but I wonder what I thought of TWD after only 8 episodes.
Quote from: jimm on April 25, 2016, 01:14:20 AM
Anyone else find "Fear" a bit lacking?
I do but I'll keep watching. Maybe it's just a slow burn before it gets really interesting. I seem to recall TWD being more engaging than this early on.
Quote from: Gory Glenn on April 25, 2016, 10:47:32 AM
I seem to recall TWD being more engaging than this early on.
TWD was entertaining out of the gate for me. I think the quality of
TWD left us with unreasonably high expectations for
Fear. After some of the
Fear characters have time to become better liked then we can get a more accurate gauge on how much we like the show. Let's face it, Zombie Apocalypse is a fun adventure setting, but it's the characters that make (or break) the show.
Quote from: horrorhunter on April 25, 2016, 11:47:23 AM
TWD was entertaining out of the gate for me. I think the quality of TWD left us with unreasonably high expectations for Fear. After some of the Fear characters have time to become better liked then we can get a more accurate gauge on how much we like the show. Let's face it, Zombie Apocalypse is a fun adventure setting, but it's the characters that make (or break) the show.
If the FTWD folks don't start getting more likeable real soon I'm gonna start hoping they meet up with Negan and Lucille!
Fear is getting interesting and I find myself looking forward to the next ep. Had a "YEAH!" moment when Luis exploded Red's melon with his sniper rifle at the end of tonight's show. When you look through your scope and see another sniper about to pop your head it's way different than setting in ambush for an easy shot on an unsuspecting target. Luis is a badass.
Also looking forward to Preacher premiering on the 22nd.
Mighty fine shootin'
I really dig "Fear," but am I the only one who has a love/hate relationship with the "Madison" character? In some ways I think she's sexy and maybe a bad ass, but other times she's totally annoying and I hope she's get eaten.
Quote from: geezer butler on May 12, 2016, 11:44:12 PM
I really dig "Fear," but am I the only one who has a love/hate relationship with the "Madison" character?
The over-protective mother bit is wearing thin. They gotta grow up, sometime, ma!
Quote from: geezer butler on May 12, 2016, 11:44:12 PM
I really dig "Fear," but am I the only one who has a love/hate relationship with the "Madison" character? In some ways I think she's sexy and maybe a bad ass, but other times she's totally annoying and I hope she's get eaten.
I think she's a
major badass, but she has a
super mom psyche crock. Gotta pay for those capabilities with disadvantages, I guess (anyone who's played Champions, the superhero role-playing game, will get the reference). I'm interested to learn more about her background. I wonder if she was involved with espionage, military, or police shenanigans at some point in her past. She was cold and calculating when she worked the pregnant villain, and she doesn't hesitate when it comes to bloodletting.
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AMC are rerunning The Walking Dead episodes, one season per each Sunday. Today (7/3) was Season 1 with Season 2 next Sunday and so on. I dropped TV for a couple of years there so this is a good chance for me to binge watch all the eps and get up to speed on TWD. It's fun to see the early eps because the characters that survived had changed so much later on. I'm really looking forward to watching the Sunday marathons.
I'm holding off buying TWD on DVD until the series runs it's course (which could be awhile). I'm just going to buy the whole thing all at once on DVD or BD in the deluxe package that will inevitably be offered when the series wraps. It'll have commentaries and beaucoup other bells and whistles, and it's redundant and far more expensive to buy the seasons one at a time. Every fan will want the big package anyway so I'll just wait. That makes these rerun marathons that much more cool to those of us who don't currently own the series on DVD.
Just a reminder, this Sunday (7/10) season 2 of The Walking Dead is being rerun on AMC.
Zombie Cool
Anybody watching FTWD still? The last couple of episodes have been exceptional. The one with the hotel zombie bar fight was unbelievable (especially with an ultra-drunk Madison...love that woman!).
Quote from: Mord on September 06, 2016, 03:05:49 PM
The one with the hotel zombie bar fight was unbelievable
Yeah, how'd they get out of that, anyway? They were completely surrounded and the next you see them, they are locked in another room! Did I miss something?
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 06, 2016, 03:11:21 PM
Yeah, how'd they get out of that, anyway? They were completely surrounded and the next you see them, they are locked in another room! Did I miss something?
Maybe they hid under a trash bin.
Quote from: Mike Scott on September 06, 2016, 03:11:21 PM
Yeah, how'd they get out of that, anyway? They were completely surrounded and the next you see them, they are locked in another room! Did I miss something?
Color me confused, too. :o
It was of course an early lesson in GUTS-ian logic. I'm glad they've gotten rid of Whiny Boy Chris but they've shucked two of my most interested-in characters - Alex the Asian Woman who kills two of her raftmates to protect burn-boy, then accused hangdog Travis of "murder" by letting burn boy finally perish. Gee - her murders are OK?!! And of course, we never saw Daniel Salazar's death. Nor Celia's.
I was hoping we'd see Salazar and/or Alex Psycho Killer at the gates of the lit-up hotel but, dully, we were stuck with the Bro-migos on their last day.