R.I.P. Hershel :(
Rot in Hell Governor!
I know nobody's been talking "Dead", so far, this season, but I wanted to bring up the explosive mid-season finale and say goodbye to Hershel.
Hate to see a good villain go, now what?
Quote from: jimm on December 02, 2013, 06:14:42 AM
Hate to see a good villain go, now what?
There was no way The Gov. was going to survive the episode where he cuts off Hershel's head! What next? Tune in Feb. 9th!
And there was an awful lot of blood in Little Asskicker's (Judith's) carrier, too. Doesn't bode well. Poor little Meghan, too. Lotsa death in this episode!
On "Talking Dead," Scott Wilson said he looks forward to watching the series as just a fan, now.
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Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 02, 2013, 11:27:47 AM
And there was an awful lot of blood in Little Asskicker's (Judith's) carrier, too.
A red herring, I'm sure.
A shocker for sure!! Asskicker probably made it onto the bus (hopefully). Who wants to bet that now that Rick and Carl are separated from the group, and Rick is hurt badly, they stumble upon CAROL, who nurses him back to health?
Quote from: Scatter on December 02, 2013, 06:28:56 PM
A shocker for sure!! Asskicker probably made it onto the bus (hopefully). Who wants to bet that now that Rick and Carl are separated from the group, and Rick is hurt badly, they stumble upon CAROL, who nurses him back to health?
A possibility, but I've already read speculation that it was Carol who snuck in & took Judith, then got on the bus and took off without Maggie. Two months of non-stop geek musings is gonna be interesting...and probably painful.
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Quote from: Scatter on December 02, 2013, 06:28:56 PM
. . they stumble upon CAROL, who nurses him back to health?
Undoubtedly she will be back, but when, or under what circumstances . . .?
Quote from: Mike Scott on December 02, 2013, 07:26:07 PM
Undoubtedly she will be back, but when, or under what circumstances . . .?
I thought Carol was going to be in that pack of walkers for sure (glad she wasn't).
Why did Meghan's dumbass mom not keep her on a shorter leash? Just plain stupid and a bit unrealistic I would think!
Quote from: jimm on December 03, 2013, 12:17:35 AM
Why did Meghan's dumbass mom not keep her on a shorter leash? Just plain stupid and a bit unrealistic I would think!
I seem to remember the Governor had told her something like they would be safe there because the walkers wouldn't cross water. Did I miss some detail as to why that stretch of river bank was isolated? Still, you wouldn't necessarily expect a body under the sand. She could have been sitting right next to her and still she could've been attacked.
Rob
Hershel's death would have been more dignified if the Gov cut his head off with one blow. It was the worst part for me.
Quote from: monsterphile on December 03, 2013, 06:49:20 AM
I seem to remember the Governor had told her something like they would be safe there because the walkers wouldn't cross water. Did I miss some detail as to why that stretch of river bank was isolated? Still, you wouldn't necessarily expect a body under the sand. She could have been sitting right next to her and still she could've been attacked.
No one knew it was a flash flood zone. That's what was printed on the sign Meghan dug out of the mud, "Danger: Flash Flood Area." Obviously, a walker got swept into the river bank during a previous flooding, and buried by mud. The sign had been on top of it, holding it down. Meghan unknowingly freed it.
In the comics, Lily killed The Governor on her own. On "Talking Dead", Robert Kirkman said they decided to make it a multi-part affair: Rick beats him (then starts to lose), Michonne skewers him (because the audience has been waiting for that for over a year), then Lily gets the brain-shot (nod to the comics).
Quote from: Mitchellmania on December 03, 2013, 10:51:20 AM
Hershel's death would have been more dignified if the Gov cut his head off with one blow. It was the worst part for me.
As for The Governor's inability to behead Herschel in a single blow...it's just really something the average person can't do. Walkers are rotting, their connective tissues are decaying, so it's far easier to cut them up. A living person, it takes far more force, especially if the blade hits a vertebra, instead of sliding between the vertebrae. When beheadings were the popular form of public execution, it was a matter of pride for the executioners to be able to take off a head in a single stroke, and that was with those giant axes or immense broadswords! That's why the French invented the guillotine; it was considered a more "humane" method of execution. Also, Robert Kirkman said the tradition on the show is, the more beloved a character is, the more horrific they make their deaths. It just has a more visceral impact on the story.
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I like watching the program....but this episode was too rich. This show is very inconsistent in its writing/characters. A couple episodes back---Rick throws Carol out for trying to stop a plague. He cannot have her sleeping in the prison with his kids.
But this episode he was willing to move the Govenor (a bigger threat than the Walkers) into the prison.
But last season---Darryl left the group for about 20 seconds because Merle was too dangerous to bring back to the prison.
Huh?
I am also tired of them killing my favorite characters. Hershel was awesome.
Its like this alot.
Like when Laurie said "Shane's dangerous--and he's not gonna stop." But when Rick stops him---boom! she hates him.
Either everyone is incapable of sticking to decisions they make in the wake of the Zombie outbreak, or they have dementia.
This wraps up some of my thoughts with regarsd to how quickly people change their minds(IE Rick esp.)
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I get the whole zombnie crawling out of the dirt thing, but the kid had a close call last episode, you're gonna let her play in the mud wityhouy being right next to her? Doubtful...
Quote from: Anton Phibes on December 03, 2013, 12:12:23 PM
Rick throws Carol out for trying to stop a plague. But this episode he was willing to move the Governor into the prison.
The Governor was pointing a
tank at Rick's face. What would
you have done! :laugh:
Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 03, 2013, 11:35:45 AM
Michonne skewers himthen Lily gets the brain-shot
I couldn't believe Michonne walked away from the Gov. while he was still breathing! I was yelling at her to finish him off, 'cause I was sure he'd get away, somehow! :laugh: Oh well, it all worked out in the end.
It was all going so fast! Did anybody notice if any of the Governor's people were left alive at the end of the battle? The only one I think lived was the one who saved the Gov. from becoming a zombie.
Quote from: Mike Scott on December 03, 2013, 01:58:17 PM
The Governor was pointing a tank at Rick's face. What would you have done! :laugh:
Well--since Rick already knows the Govenor is/was a piece of lying crap---I think I would have left on the condition of giving up the hostages. They lost the prison anyway thanks to that jerk. The only difference being Rick and the rest of the group lost their mentor and medical doctor.
Just my opinion---but since the Gov. hated Michonne so badly---why kill a person he barely knew who was completely defenseless? I think he would've held that sword to Michonne. But, as Hershel has been around longer, and Michonne is a fan favorite---time to kill hershel. Sad.
I also would've liked it if Carl would've saved Rick's bacon like he did with Zombie Shane. I used to think Carl's character was an annoying punk. He's turning into a solid character now.
Think they will ever kill Darryl?
Quote from: Anton Phibes on December 03, 2013, 02:28:52 PM
Think they will ever kill Darryl?
I don't think Darryl thinks so. ;D
Quote from: Mike Scott on December 03, 2013, 02:36:55 PM
I don't think Darryl thinks so. ;D
They would lose a good chunk of their female viewership if they killed of Darryl.
Quote from: Mike Scott on December 03, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
I couldn't believe Michonne walked away from the Gov. while he was still breathing! I was yelling at her to finish him off, 'cause I was sure he'd get away, somehow! :laugh: Oh well, it all worked out in the end.
I'm sure she was relishing the idea of the Gov being left alive to endure becoming zombie snackeration.
Quote from: Mord on December 03, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
They would lose a good chunk of their female viewership if they killed of Darryl.
Not to mention your hasty exit at that point. Me, as long as I have Rick, I'm good.
Quote from: Scatter on December 03, 2013, 03:22:32 PM
I'm sure she was relishing the idea of the Gov being left alive to endure becoming zombie snackeration.
That's what I was thinking.
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Awesome episode. Nothing sweeter than seeing that katana impale the Governor's midsection. He might have been a toughassed psychopath but nobody keeps going after getting skewered by a katana thrust like that. Michonne be bad! She was just leaving him to suffer the wound and the walkers. She knew he was a dead man. Besides, if she took his head he wouldn't rise as a walker. Maybe she was hoping she could kill him twice.
Concerning the characters acting erratically sometimes...people do that in real life. Throw in a Zombie Apocalypse with stress levels through the roof and you have all kinds of irrational actions happening with great regularity. I think the show is very well written. Zombie Cool
Something somebody said about zombies rotting . . . Do they?
I was kinda glad to see the Gov whuppin on Rick. Kinda sick of his wishy washy ways. How'd they forget about Rick behind the bus? LOL
Quote from: Mike Scott on December 03, 2013, 11:18:57 PM
Something somebody said about zombies rotting . . . Do they?
They certainly appear to. We've seen them in various states of decay on the show. So far, we haven't seen any that have simply rotted away, to the point where they can no longer function, but I would say, logically, it has to happen. However, as the living die, we know they're re-animated by whatever has caused this zombie apocalypse. So, we're getting "replacement zombies" all the time.
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Quote from: Scatter on December 03, 2013, 03:23:36 PM
Not to mention your hasty exit at that point. Me, as long as I have Rick, I'm good.
So you're team Rick? I bet you're team Jacob for "Twilight".
Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 04, 2013, 11:51:52 AM
They certainly appear to. We've seen them in various states of decay on the show. So far, we haven't seen any that have simply rotted away, to the point where they can no longer function, but I would say, logically, it has to happen. However, as the living die, we know they're re-animated by whatever has caused this zombie apocalypse. So, we're getting "replacement zombies" all the time.
They really are in the best climate for a zombie apocalypse, the southern heat/humidy will rot them away fairly quick! You wouldn't want to be somewhere with cool/cold weather....those dead suckers would never rot away!
Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 04, 2013, 11:51:52 AM
However, as the living die, we know they're re-animated by whatever has caused this zombie apocalypse. So, we're getting "replacement zombies" all the time.
I guess the trick is to not die, or make sure nobody turns if they do and, eventually, they'll run out of zombies.
Quote from: Mike Scott on December 04, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
I guess the trick is to not die, or make sure nobody turns if they do and, eventually, they'll run out of zombies.
Since the zombie virus seems to be in everyone already, and you return no matter how you die, then it's a catch-22. As long as there are people, there will be zombies.
Unless, those born after the outbreak (like Little Asskicker/Judith), have been born with a natural immunity. Then, the trick is for that generation to outlive all those infected with whatever-the-hell-it-is.
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Quote from: Mord on December 04, 2013, 03:18:21 PM
So you're team Rick? I bet you're team Jacob for "Twilight".
LOLO0
Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 04, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
As long as there are people, there will be zombies.
Not as long as you take care of everybody when they die, of whatever.
Quote from: Mord on December 04, 2013, 03:18:21 PM
So you're team Rick? I bet you're team Jacob for "Twilight".
Is he the real sparkly one?? Then YEAAHHHHHH!!
Quote from: Scatter on December 04, 2013, 11:07:07 PM
Is he the real sparkly one?? Then YEAAHHHHHH!!
Yep, he's the sparkly one that hangs out in the woods with a bunch of other sparkly boys wearing nothing but short shorts (to die for!!!).
I also thought it was lame Lily left her daughter that far away in a new place.
I thought either Glenn or Maggie would get it for sure this episode.
I wanted to see Michonne stab the Gov in the face 36 Chambers style!
Two months seems like such a long time right now.
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Quote from: BaronLatos35 on December 06, 2013, 06:31:36 PM
Two months seems like such a long time right now.
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Ain't that the truth?!
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Man, I'm jonzin' in advance...........NO WALKING DEAD TOMORROW!! UGH!!
Walkers Lurk Under the Streets of NYC ( The Walking Dead ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAhyIt94els#ws)
I'm gonna miss the Governor. He was a nice enough guy, he just had one or two issues!
Quote from: long live kong on February 05, 2014, 04:22:21 PM
I'm gonna miss the Governor. He was a nice enough guy, he just had one or two issues!
He must have been a great villain, 'cause since day 1 I wanted to see him atomized in slow motion then repeatedly sent back in time so it could happen ad infinitum. Yep, musta been a great villain. >:D
The actor who played"The Governor" was on the Conan O' Brian
Show and he said he knew he had done a good job playing his character when he went to Comic-Con and everybody booed him.
:)
Quote from: Phantom Stranger on March 19, 2014, 06:35:56 PM
The actor who played"The Governor" was on the Conan O' Brian
I was just re-watching the BBC (1998) production of "Our Mutual Friend" and he played another really creepy/psycho character in that, too!