Rumor has it it's this guy:
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o155/karloff4623/IMG_4917.jpg)
Well, I sure hope they fix the color of the Creature's lips, chin and neck. So strange they've gone with this revisionist paint scheme here and on the premium format statue, especially considering they got the color right on the 8in Creature as well as the 12in CFTBL and Walks Among Us figures, and the assorted little big heads. Damn shame.
I also wonder why this looks to have been designed like the Premium Format figure, in that you seem to need to be somewhat above it looking down to get the best view. Perhaps it'll change.
I could see that for $30 or $40, but not much more then that.. it's not much better then the recent smaller creech diorama on clearance, and that at least had lights in it.
It looks like she's dead, and he's lamenting that... and I don't recall that at all in the movies.
I just don't see why it's so hard to pick an iconic scene from the movie, and do that rather them make crap up instead.
I wish they would do that Chaney Sr. at his make up table that they talked about. I also agree that the choice of angle on this one is odd. His head looking up that way just doesn't look right. And what's with that neck color, it looks like a frog's underbelly.
It's probably in it's first stages and the camera flash could have washed some of the colors or details. I kind of dig it and anything sideshow will not be less than $100.00. There were same criticism with teh premium format but once you get it in your hands, there was nothing but compliments so give this piece some time and a chance. I'm sure it will turn out nice. For some reason, there are a ton of people that is against sideshow, but I am a sideshow fan and I am glad they are keeping the Universal Monsters collectable scene alive.
This seems kind of uninspired, more like an obligatory Creature piece rather then something they were fired up to make. I'd rather see a more unconventional protrayal of the Creature, like in the "and away we go" still that shows up in FM from time to time. or better yet how about a big diorama of this...
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/joshdawn/family21.jpg)
I'm sure they'd have some takers on that one.
Oh, and give me a Julie Adams 1/6 scale to go with the Creature figure we already have.
Yay for Uncle Gilbert!!!
I was going to say that.......hurrah for Uncle Gilbert..........too cool for school...........of fish
Quote from: Josh on October 24, 2008, 09:26:02 AM
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/joshdawn/family21.jpg)
I would definitely buy a dio of this!
I don't understand the disdain among some Monster Collectors for Sideshow either. And its usually the guys who grew up during the 1960's monster craze that take issue with Sideshow. Curiously enough, some of these same "monster kids" rank something like the Tomland Mummy (a figure I think is completely ridiculous) as one of their most prized possessions. Go figure. Personally I am glad Sideshow is making items like this, and think this Creature is awesome. Which is why I shared it. Since the film itself is black and white, I don't understand the concern regarding the paint apps. Personally I think it looks great. Like an actual aquatic being and not a uni-color green rubber suit.
Now don't get me wrong. I love Aurora, and they will always be top dog...because I had them growing up. But it doesn't make me hate what Sideshow is doing. It does seem to make others who grew up with Aurora take a "nothing else can compare" stance. Which I don't understand at all. As awesome as the Auroras are, and as classic as they are, there are things being released now that, well, blow them out of the water. If I am wrong about the topic of why there seems to be so much disdain for Sideshow...enlighten me. Just my 2 cents on this controversial subject. :-\
another view of the controversial gill man and gal......(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o155/karloff4623/IMG_4918.jpg)
Quote from: Josh on October 24, 2008, 09:26:02 AM
This seems kind of uninspired,
That would be my take based on the photos here.
Is he singing to her? ;D
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7123/creaturefromtheblacklagbj8.jpg)
Inspiration for the piece derived from a photographic reference. Much the way the Dracula diorama is.
I was kind of thinking that the inspiration was derived from here... ;)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/joshdawn/7-1.jpg)
With some customization (cape, "C" on his chest, change Julies dress to Supergirl colors) this could be a lot of fun. I think I'm actually getting a little excited about this piece now.
Hey Anton,
First up, lemme say thanks for posting the pic. I truthfully saw your post right after having perused Sideshow's site to see what, if anything, they were announcing Universal wise around Halloween and, found nothing. So again, big gratitude to you for posting the photos. As an aside, where'd you see the statue?
On hating on Sideshow, I don't. Quite the opposite, I really, really dig MOST of what they do and have been quite a proponent of their products, booth as a buyer and retailer, and even just as a fan. Even when, as the majority of their output is, the items they make hold no interest to me personally in terms of characters and properties, I always find their works interesting. I own the majority of their 8in UM output, lacking a glow figure here and a silver screen version there, the little big heads in numerous permutations, a host of 12inchers, Pozers and a few of the Premium Format figures along with several promotion only items (holiday, Toy Fair and such). Their 12in Creature from the Black Lagoon is something I wanted all my life, and barring some production / materials issues, so is the 8in.
The Premium Format figure diverges from the quality of those, and it looks as if the diorama is following down the same dismal path. Both are designed needlessly complex in their viewing range. The PF is best viewed standing above it, an odd presentation. This new statue, while closely following a studio still tilts the Creature's head back and to the right, like he's roaring or something. Not a great pose.
Quote from: Gareee on October 24, 2008, 08:18:29 AM
It looks like she's dead, and he's lamenting that... and I don't recall that at all in the movies.
It does look like a lamentation of his woman, or a Kong like roar of conquest. Either way, not iconic for the Creature.
Quote from: Gareee on October 24, 2008, 08:18:29 AM
It looks like she's dead, and he's lamenting that... and I don't recall that at all in the movies.
That foolish "frog" look was give to Gill in the Universal style guides from the early '90s, copying Steve Wang's work on Monster Squad and the Predator films. That organic, mottled coloring works great for those characters, but applying it to the work of Bud Westmore and Millicent Patrick, it's just needless and ugly and, most damning, wrong. That's not the color he should be. It's not two toned in the film, the posters, they myriad of products, nothing until some hot shot art director thought it'd be cool to update it with the trend du jor. The worst of it is disgrace it does to the design, in that it's obvious from the form of the Creature that this color scheme is a late and incongruous edition. That's the problem. I'm a huge Creature fan, and want more cool Creature items (I think I'm the one who posted on here about the survey Sideshow held, and I agitated for the Gill-Man). These last two, the PF and this one are so close, don't cross the finish line.
But thanks again for showing the photo, if nothing else, it gives me more time to resolve my disappointment, and at best, perhaps someone will reconsider the paint scheme.
Best,
sts
My issues with sideshow is milking the market for as many dollars as possible. When they were doing mass market items, I bought almost everything they produced.. I even have both the frank n wolfing Pozers.
But then they saw $$$ signs, and shifted to "exclusive collectables".. 12" figures that had cost $30 or less suddenly jumped to 45, 65, 70, and now 140! Granted, prices have increased, but almost 5 TIMES what they cost 5 years ago? They even had to add a "installment payment plan" because it was getting that people were buying less, because they couldn't afford the high prices.
And their latest deal is to partner with hot toys, or electric tiki, and then raise prices even HIGHER on items like that because they split the profits on them.
I LOVE some of the items they are putting out, but I just do not HAVE $5000 a month to buy sideshow figures.
QuoteBut then they saw $$$ signs, and shifted to "exclusive collectables".. 12" figures that had cost $30 or less suddenly jumped to 45, 65, 70, and now 140! Granted, prices have increased, but almost 5 TIMES what they cost 5 years ago? They even had to add a "installment payment plan" because it was getting that people were buying less, because they couldn't afford the high prices.
They didn't see money signs, they actually produce less, and in doing so, costs go up and which in affect prices go up too. They were mass producing products but this was at a time when Toys R Us, Target and whatever company purchasing toys stopped buying from sideshow since they weren't making money on it. Let's face it, this genre only appeals to a small market. It does not appeal to a mass market crowd, mainly kids who want their parents to buy toys to play with. Instead of discontinueing their monster line, they kept it going but at a cost. So in one hand, yes it's a bit pricey but at least you have a choice on collecting the piece rather than not seeing any of it come out.
Name another company that is producing less costly Universal products such as the more expensive Sideshow. I don't see any out there.
Not universal stuff, but amok toys is kicking their ass all over the place on pricepoint and features.. how many sideshow figures came with FOUR replaceable heads like the recent NOTLD release? AND they delivered that for one quarter of the retail price of the recent sideshow releases.
Ask the guys who were buying the 12" Lord of the rings figures what they think about Sideshow NOT completing the fellowship.. and ask them what they think of a 75% price increase in the last year alone.
Sorry, but if you don't think they are milking the market, yer brainwashed.
Someone on another site posted these photos from a tour they took of Sideshow Collectibles.
The head tilt doesn't bother me any more than the Wolfman jumping in mid air on the FvsW diorama did. They seem to be combining elements from film and stills. The Creature is opening and closing his mouth while he's out of water quite a bit. As for color scheme, it doesn't bother me. The 1960's and other times have brought us Creatures with garish red lips, etc. One of the benefits an artist has when dealing with a b&w film is freedom of color expression. I think the issues with paint apps where the monsters are concerned is why some people prefer the SSE versions of the pieces.
As for the Crisis #7 cover, why not choose this one:(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/e/e9/Uncanny_X-Men_136.jpg/300px-Uncanny_X-Men_136.jpg)
The pose has been done a zillion times in every medium imaginable, LOL! ;D
Quote from: Bogey on October 24, 2008, 04:49:14 PM
If so, what would be the tune?
"Under The Sea." :D
Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 25, 2008, 10:43:40 AM
As for the Crisis #7 cover, why not choose this one:(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/e/e9/Uncanny_X-Men_136.jpg/300px-Uncanny_X-Men_136.jpg)
The pose has been done a zillion times in every medium imaginable, LOL! ;D
Yeah! Thats a good one to, especially with the other monsters standing behind him looking shocked.
If there was a tune blaring from his mouth it would be a et blaring BBAA-BBAAA-BAAAAAAAA!!!
Call me Brain Washed but...I lIke Sideshow....I like Sideshow...I Like Sideshow...I Like Sideshow...
I Like Sideshow...I Lke Sideshow.....
LOL!
Officially up for order. $159 on Sideshows website. I like it. :P
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/1821_press06-001.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/1821_press02-001.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/1821_press01-001.jpg)
Creepy, I want one, what can you do for me/us?
BK
From an upper angle, it doesn't look at bad as from front on shots.. much like th epremium format figure...
Quote from: michblk on October 30, 2008, 08:18:36 PM
Creepy, I want one, what can you do for me/us?
BK
Hiya Brian - I will be ordering these for myself and all of my UMA friends and family (whomever wants it and is willing to pay for it that is. :) He will be the same price as the Frank VS Wolf Man and Drac/Renfield Diorama...$139.95 plus actual UPS Ground shipping. Email me at jeff(at)cjclassics(dot)com or send me a PM if you're interested. Thanks as always.
Best,
Creepy Jeff
Quote from: Gareee on October 25, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
Not universal stuff, but amok toys is kicking their ass all over the place on pricepoint and features.. how many sideshow figures came with FOUR replaceable heads like the recent NOTLD release? AND they delivered that for one quarter of the retail price of the recent sideshow releases.
Ask the guys who were buying the 12" Lord of the rings figures what they think about Sideshow NOT completing the fellowship.. and ask them what they think of a 75% price increase in the last year alone.
Sorry, but if you don't think they are milking the market, yer brainwashed.
I own all the Amok Time releases, and they aren't kicking anyone's ass at this point. It's nice to get figures of some of these rather unique characters, but there's no butts being kicked.
You convienently picked the only figure they've produced with any real accessories, the Zombie. Yes, he has three extra heads, and cost $50. However, you're claim that they are one quarter the cost of Sideshow would require SS's figures to be $200, which they are clearly not. You can buy the Obi-wan in clone armor for $80, and there's simply no comparison.
Amok's other figures have all been $50 and $60, with almost no (or no) accessories, and often major issues. Again, I love what Amok Time is doing, but it's not reasonable to compare them to Sideshow.
As to LOTR, I'm one of those collectors disappointed, but I don't expect Sideshow to lose money just to make me happy. It's a business, and clearly LOTR is a dead line right now across the board. Hopefully we'll eventually get our Gimli, but I'm not silly enough to hate the company because they can't justify making it. They don't owe me all nine figures.
Back to this Creature - I'm not buying, because I don't do the dios (figures and PF's only, thank you very much), but I prefer this land based pose to the PF swimming pose. There's something about her that isn't working for me...perhaps it's the skin tone, which looks too statue and not particularly life-like...but it's still nice to see SS providing decent Universal goodies. Now, a 1:1 bust might break my bank account.
I'm an original monster kid and I think Sideshow rocks. I have taken exception to some of their designs however. The premium format Frankenstein (the first one) is close but no cigar. Karloff had a slight stoop, his head jutting forward. The Sideshow piece looks like an ad for a mattress company. Way too erect, if you'll pardon the expression. They also blew the color on the premium scale Dracula. This guy is supposed to be DEAD, but he has an almost rosy skin tone.
I have most of their earlier Universal stuff and it gets a thumbs up from me.
Same here.. I have most of their early products, but only have the PF creature from the last year.
Most recent figures I got from them were the 1st hellboy 12" figure, and the 12" Van Helsing figures.