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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: MonsterArt on October 13, 2008, 10:04:18 PM

Title: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: MonsterArt on October 13, 2008, 10:04:18 PM
I had one of these in 5th-6th grade. I really loved it. I used it until it literally fell apart, and never replaced it.

Out of curiosity, what does one these treasures fetch these days? I shudder at the thought... ;)

Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: The Phantom Creep on October 13, 2008, 10:10:47 PM
Someone told me that one in beautiful condition just sold on e-bay but I don't remember for how much it went for. Sorry.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Toy Ranch on October 13, 2008, 10:25:37 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140271852957

$610 for a minty one.

But...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2386697422_a0d2c7dd65_o.jpg)

The most I paid for any of these was $225 for the Dracula, $145 or so for the Wolf Man and $100 for the Frankenstein.  They aren't as nice as that Frankenstein, but I got all 3 for less than the price of that one.

Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Richard on October 13, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
Like all monster toys, condition is EVERYTHING!
This 60s example would fetch little to nothing now that my cat is done playing with it  :o
Best,
Richard

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/monsterbinderandcat.jpg)

NOTE: This cute cat was NOT punished...the Frankenstein binder (from my junk box) was already in this very sad condition.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Richard on October 13, 2008, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: Toy Ranch on October 13, 2008, 10:25:37 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140271852957

$610 for a minty one.


I think that's actually correct for a minty one.  Possibly higher, depending on what "deep pocket" bidders are battling on eBay. I think these are very hard to find unused. Again, condition is everything.
Best,
Richard





Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: MonsterArt on October 13, 2008, 11:40:48 PM
Thanks, guys. And Richard, how the heck are you?

Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Richard on October 14, 2008, 12:15:26 AM
Quote from: MonsterArt on October 13, 2008, 11:40:48 PM
Thanks, guys. And Richard, how the heck are you?



Hey, Frank!
Doing fine but restricted to Duluth because of Andrea. Man, I really miss seeing you and all the guys at the conventions! I hope to be back to WonderFest ASAP...again, it all depends on Andrea.
Still looking for a copy of "The Things remain Sketchy" and "Sketchy Things Walk Among Us"  ;)
Best,
Richard
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: hhwolfman on October 14, 2008, 12:49:05 AM
IMO $250 to $600 depending on condition. HHW
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Wich2 on October 14, 2008, 09:18:01 AM
Howdy from the Right Coast too, Friend Richard!
-Craig
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Mike Scott on October 14, 2008, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: Richard on October 13, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
This 60s example would fetch little to nothing now

You should frame the art insert.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: hhwolfman on October 14, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Knowing Richard, He could repair it , to look like new. HHW
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: poseablemonster on October 14, 2008, 11:40:12 AM
Quote from: hhwolfman on October 14, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Knowing Richard, He could repair it , to look like new. HHW
Very true.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: ProfGriffin on October 15, 2008, 09:54:21 AM
Huh.  I never knew that those binders were just art inserts in the front cover.


Heck if someone was to scan the art inserts, they could be printed and inserted into new binders...
Presto!  Instant 60's binder! 

Is that what Ferry did when he was reselling them in the pages of the new FM?
(I was so very tempted too.)
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: raycastile on October 15, 2008, 10:24:11 AM
I have a Ferry binder.  When I bought it, I didn't know what it was.  The  seller was vague about its origins.  It's just a piece of paper inserted into a standard black binder with a clear vinyl pocket.  The Ferry binders were new designs, though.  They were not the same artwork as the 60s binders.  The one I have is a Phantom.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Monster Bob on October 15, 2008, 10:47:46 AM

Ferry must have had different producers of these and had different product runs, as my Ferrybinder has no pocket, and the artwork is sealed into the binder, just like the 60s ones.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: fmofmpls on October 15, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
Quote from: Monster Bob on October 15, 2008, 10:47:46 AM
Ferry must have had different producers of these and had different product runs, as my Ferrybinder has no pocket, and the artwork is sealed into the binder, just like the 60s ones.

My set of Ferry binders are also seamless. And Ferry is senseless. So there you have it.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: raycastile on October 16, 2008, 12:01:26 AM
Well, maybe I have a bootleg Ferry binder!  Talk about lower than low.  A bootleg of a bootleg.  More likely, I suspect at some point he found it cheaper to switch to the pocket style instead of the sealed ones.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Richard on October 16, 2008, 12:03:37 AM
Quote from: Wich2 on October 14, 2008, 09:18:01 AM
Howdy from the Right Coast too, Friend Richard!
-Craig

Hey, Craig!
Someday...another New York visit for me ~and a visit with you ...someday!
Monster Hugs!
Richard
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Richard on October 16, 2008, 12:25:10 AM
Quote from: ProfGriffin on October 15, 2008, 09:54:21 AM
Huh.  I never knew that those binders were just art inserts in the front cover.


Heck if someone was to scan the art inserts, they could be printed and inserted into new binders...
Presto!  Instant 60's binder! 

Is that what Ferry did when he was reselling them in the pages of the new FM?
(I was so very tempted too.)


I think~ That's what was done on some so-called repro Hasbro binders sold by a guy a few years ago. Images were scanned from the actual notebooks, printed, and slipped into new clearview binders. I believe he said, in his eBay ad, that it would be difficult to tell a new one from an original binder. Not true, as the clear vinyl wasn't sealed at the top, the image was blurry and printed on a single thin sheet of paper and the binder size was off.. Also, on an original, the image is laminated to a 1/8 inch piece of cardboard (rounded at the top and bottom right side corners and squared at the top and bottom left side corners). If I was going to make repro binders, I'd scan the image off of the paint-by-number sets for a nice clear print and glue it to a thicker backing cardboard and have the final image sealed into the binder. But that's just me. Wouldn't be much point to this though..the more fun would be to make a Creature from the Black Lagoon binder to go with the 1st three (or some other monster).

Here is what the insert looks like (thickness) as removed from my sad-shape original binder ...and a pic of my display binder (which is a mint unused example).
Best,
Richard

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/frankensteinbinderimage.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/HasbroFrankensteinbinder.jpg)
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: fmofmpls on October 16, 2008, 07:29:11 AM
Quote from: Richard on October 16, 2008, 12:25:10 AM
If I was going to make repro binders, I'd scan the image off of the paint-by-number sets for a nice clear print and glue it to a thicker backing cardboard and have the final image sealed into the binder./frankensteinbinderimage.jpg[/img]

What's stopping you Richard? Get er done!  ;)
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Mike Scott on October 16, 2008, 10:10:42 AM
Quote from: fmofmpls on October 16, 2008, 07:29:11 AM
What's stopping you Richard? Get er done!  ;)

The repro binder idea doesn't interest me as much as just having some nice prints/scans of the paint-by art.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: fmofmpls on October 16, 2008, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on October 16, 2008, 10:10:42 AM
The repro binder idea doesn't interest me as much as just having some nice prints/scans of the paint-by art.

Your right Mike. That artwork is priceless. Nice quality poster prints would sell brisk I think. I'm surprised that this hasn't been done yet. 
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: MrDark1 on October 17, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
I'd sure buy 'em!!!!
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Hepcat on February 28, 2012, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Toy Ranch on October 13, 2008, 10:25:37 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2386697422_a0d2c7dd65_o.jpg)

Were only three different binders made? Who did the artwork? Were these binders only sold through Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine originally or were they sold through stores as well?

???

Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Monster Bob on February 28, 2012, 04:46:13 PM


They were sold in stores as well.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Mike Scott on February 28, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: Hepcat on February 28, 2012, 11:34:17 AM
Were only three different binders made? Who did the artwork? Were these binders only sold through Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine originally or were they sold through stores as well?

First, I would love to know the artist, but like so much of this stuff from back then, the artist's name is lost to history.

I used to think there was a Creature binder, because there was an ad for them on the bottom of some of the Phoenix Candy boxes that used a Creature drawing on the drawing of a binder. Didn't say what monster you'd get if you sent for one. Wish there had been a Creature binder!  :)
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: darkmonkeygod on February 29, 2012, 12:45:40 AM
Quote from: Mike Scott on February 28, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
First, I would love to know the artist, but like so much of this stuff from back then, the artist's name is lost to history.

I used to think there was a Creature binder, because there was an ad for them on the bottom of some of the Phoenix Candy boxes that used a Creature drawing on the drawing of a binder. Didn't say what monster you'd get if you sent for one. Wish there had been a Creature binder!  :)

I still hold out hope that one day the paintings will surface and we'll find out who created them, AND that there's a Creature binder.
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Mike Scott on February 29, 2012, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on February 29, 2012, 12:45:40 AM
I still hold out hope that one day the paintings will surface and we'll find out who created them, AND that there's a Creature binder.

Like they say, anything's possible, but I won't lose any sleep over it.  ;)
Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Hepcat on May 13, 2019, 09:00:09 AM
Here are good pics of each binder:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5e3s7Trla1qzbwhlo1_1280.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2921170124_3817948b78_o.jpg)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/5abed21d2bc86e2883b5d53e2d185159/tumblr_oolvc1m6cj1t1cmybo1_500.jpg)

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Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Hepcat on July 03, 2019, 03:36:03 PM
Here's a cool Captain Company ad from Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine for these binders:

(https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Hasbro%20B_zpsf518e3to.jpg)

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Title: Re: The 1960's Frankenstein 3-Ring Binder
Post by: Hepcat on April 22, 2020, 12:01:17 PM
Quote from: raycastile on October 15, 2008, 10:24:11 AMI have a Ferry binder.  When I bought it, I didn't know what it was.  The  seller was vague about its origins.  It's just a piece of paper inserted into a standard black binder with a clear vinyl pocket.  The Ferry binders were new designs, though.  They were not the same artwork as the 60s binders.  The one I have is a Phantom.

As a warning to future readers of this thread, the binder to which Raycastile is referring is not the one that's the subject of discussion of this thread. The Frankenstein binder we're discussing is the one Hasbro released in the 1960's and is very different from and should not be confused with the cheap Famous Monsters of Filmland Frankenstein binder pictured here:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g434/Balticprince/Frank%207.jpg)

The Famous Monsters of Filmland binders were offered by Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine when Ray Ferry was the publisher in the 1990's and featured artwork ripped off from other places. Despite what shysters now like to claim, the Famous Monsters of Filmland binders are neither "rare" nor "vintage".

Here are three threads that serve to contrast the Hasbro binders from the 1960's with the Famous Monsters of Filmland binders:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16429.msg261132#msg261132 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16429.msg261132#msg261132)

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=19612.msg314638#msg314638 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=19612.msg314638#msg314638)

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28855.msg475624#msg475624 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28855.msg475624#msg475624)

C:)