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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: jerod on July 13, 2012, 10:11:45 PM

Title: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: jerod on July 13, 2012, 10:11:45 PM
I've had this for quite a few years, but still can't positively  identify it. It is marked "Made in Japan", but that's it.

Anyone seen one before; is this a 1960s-era Toho Kong or just a generic "ape"?  ???  Any information appreciated.



(http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/jerod26/Odds%20n%20ends/JapaneseApe.jpg)
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Monolith on July 14, 2012, 02:32:47 AM
I haven't seen that particular toy before, but it looks like it could be Goro from the 1966 Japanese TV show Ultra Q. I don't know how old your toy is , but they still make Goro toys today and I've seen others that look very similar. Ultra Q was created by Eiji Tsuburaya who's known better for his work on Godzilla and Ultraman. Goro was a giant monkey played by an actor in a suit, similar to the Toho King Kong. Does he have a tail? Goro had a tail, Kong didn't of course.

Here's an example of a Goro toy...

(http://dododo.heavy.jp/TOYS/S-BT2-Goro/(3).JPG)
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: jerod on July 14, 2012, 08:09:48 AM
Thanks Monolith! Aside from differnt color scheme (and lack of tail), they do look like the same character.
The stickers looks very vintage and could easily be late 60s-70s. I'll look more into Goro.

Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: jimm on July 14, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
Very cool!
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: The Mighty Bongo on July 14, 2012, 08:12:56 PM
Quote from: Monolith on July 14, 2012, 02:32:47 AM
Goro was a giant monkey played by an actor in a suit, similar to the Toho King Kong.






Goro was more than just similar to Toho Kong, for Goro, Tsurabaya used the actual King Kong suit from King Kong VS. Godzilla.
He made a new head, and added the tail, and POOF ! instant monster !
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: RedKing on July 15, 2012, 03:50:39 PM
Exactly Bongo. Many monsters from Ultra Q were recycled Toho monsters. Even Godzilla was utilized as the monster Gomess from episode 1 heavily disquised under scales,fangs,horns,fur and new oversized clawed paws.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Unknown Primate on July 15, 2012, 05:50:27 PM
Really cool, no matter what it is!
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Richard on July 23, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
Last time I posted was June of 2011 so I guess I'll get one in before 2012 is over. Been looking at this "Kong" post a bit. I know nothing~can only offer some info about where I obtained my example of this wind up. Never was sure what it was.

There is/was (?) a store called Hudson Bay (?) in Winnipeg, Manitoba. In the 60s, my folks used to camp at Falcon Beach outside of Winnipeg (We seemed to go to Canada a lot back then~easy trip from Northern Minnesota). There was a display of these wind-ups in toys. Someone set up the lizard and monkey as I'm showing in my picture. Chance? Intentional? Who Knows? At the time, I thought "King Kong vs Godzilla" right away as I was really "into" that movie (had the Ideal Godzilla Game at home already). I know this ain't Godzilla. And maybe not Kong. But in '66 (or whatever year this was), it was the closest I'd ever seen to KK & G. These wind-ups have been with me ever since.
My last picture shows another purchase from Winnipeg. I think 1968 or thereabouts. A couple of Marx bicycle metal "license plates" with big G on them. I also had Supercar, Man from Uncle, a couple others (half of them were from my brother). All were sold in Toy Shop paper long ago. But the Godzilla plates remain.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/battlemonsterwindups.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/monkey.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/lizard.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/godzillaplates.jpg)

Richard
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: jerod on August 03, 2012, 06:45:17 AM
Wow Richard, that is indeed the exact same figure as mine (aside from the color palette). Nice backstory and it's cool you still have them.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on August 04, 2012, 01:41:59 AM
Quote from: Richard on July 23, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
My last picture shows another purchase from Winnipeg. I think 1968 or thereabouts. A couple of Marx bicycle metal "license plates" with big G on them. I also had Supercar, Man from Uncle, a couple others (half of them were from my brother). All were sold in Toy Shop paper long ago. But the Godzilla plates remain.


Richard

You've gotta post more often, please! I've been trying to get one of those Godzilla plates for decades and it's fantastic to hear the story. A number of people have speculated that those plates were not available in the States, but only the UK due to some licensing issue. While what you've relayed only brings it to North America (and Canada, being under the Queen would have been covered by such licensing, I dunno that Marx had such a sophisticated distribution chain then - but you never know), it's super cool to have your first hand account.

I've seen a number of super-hero and animation character plates from Marx over the years, do you know if they ever made anything else monster related? In my hunt for Godzilla, I was once told there was a Kong, but my BS meter rang pretty high upon hearing it.

As always, great thanks!

Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Richard on August 13, 2012, 11:10:37 AM
Thanks, Shannon!

I remember, we got all the plates in Canada. So UK availability makes very good sense (Canada/UK). Yes, you'd think these would be in the good ol' USA too. I guess the only real way to determine that would be postings from others (waaay down South folks, for example) who saw these/purchased them in US stores at the time. I agree with you, it's funny Marx would make these and not have USA distribution.

As to "Kong"~ no, never ever saw one. NO OTHER monsters, either. But, who knows? I'd bought a King Kong if available at the time. There were Super Hero/villan plates, yes. My brother Randy and I passed on those. I sold everything in Toy Shop magazine (except Godzilla) so tried to find images of what I sold. I found a paper I printed with only one image. So, I'm posting that (took the pic with my IPhone so blurry). The "Man from U.N.C.L.E." was red with the "Uncle" logo. That's what I remember.

Richard

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/stingray.jpg)
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on August 14, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
Stingray! Oh man that is cool! I forgot to ask, did your Godzillas come bagged? I've seen Marx Marvel character plates in bags with illustrated headers, but no others (and all totaled the sample I'm talking about is under twenty plates period, but I don't research 'em as obsessively as other things.  ;D
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: marsattacks666 on August 14, 2012, 03:48:52 PM
Really cool Godzilla.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: jerod on August 19, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
Found this image from Hepcat in another post that includes the Goro figure; though like me looks like he took it to be Kong:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/monsteroldmaid.jpg)
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Richard on August 20, 2012, 12:50:16 AM
Quote from: jerod on August 19, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
Found this image from Hepcat in another post that includes the Goro figure; though like me looks like he took it to be Kong:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/monsteroldmaid.jpg)

Those are displayed items from my monster room and that is the very same "Kong" figure I've pictured here earlier in this thread (The figure got moved to this display shelf).  :)
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on August 28, 2012, 02:24:57 AM
Quote from: Richard on August 13, 2012, 11:10:37 AM
As to "Kong"~ no, never ever saw one. NO OTHER monsters, either. But, who knows? I'd bought a King Kong if available at the time. There were Super Hero/villan plates, yes. My brother Randy and I passed on those. I sold everything in Toy Shop magazine (except Godzilla) so tried to find images of what I sold. I found a paper I printed with only one image. So, I'm posting that (took the pic with my IPhone so blurry). The "Man from U.N.C.L.E." was red with the "Uncle" logo. That's what I remember.

Richard, Check it out! While I'm not the buyer, it turns out Marx did make a kong plate, the same year as the Godzilla. It looks nowhere near as good - they seemed to strike a style in-between the animated series and the traditional Kong, but it's still fun. Any Marx people out there know anything else about these? I wonder why - as far as we know anyway - the didn't produce any with the Uni monsters?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/120972067509 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/120972067509)

Perhaps someone can grab the eBay shots, host, and post 'em?
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: frankenstein73 on August 28, 2012, 06:25:39 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7879412668_6d78f7bb14_z.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7879415124_27ee9aef71_z.jpg)
this is cool, wish id have seen it.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on August 28, 2012, 07:57:40 AM
Thanks for posting the pics! These really are cool, aren't they? An odd monsters side bar for Marx.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Scatter on August 28, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
Quote from: Richard on August 20, 2012, 12:50:16 AM
Those are displayed items from my monster room and that is the very same "Kong" figure I've pictured here earlier in this thread (The figure got moved to this display shelf).  :)

Richard, I LOVE that Barnabas Collins game!! That was my first monster toy.......I need to find one!!
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Monolith on August 28, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
I was the one who won the Marx Kong plate. I was going to post photo's when it arrives, but you guys beat me to it.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Mord on August 29, 2012, 11:50:27 AM
Congrats, lucky b*st*rd!
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Scatter on August 29, 2012, 04:20:28 PM
Hey Don, just so you know...........Mord just sent me a PM exactly like his last post. Minus the first 2 words.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Unknown Primate on August 29, 2012, 04:22:57 PM
I would have looked so cool (even cooler than I normally looked) with that plate on the back (or front) of my bike!
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Scatter on August 29, 2012, 04:24:52 PM
Not with those training wheels still on the back.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Monolith on August 30, 2012, 08:54:16 PM
Quote from: Scatter on August 29, 2012, 04:20:28 PM
Hey Don, just so you know...........Mord just sent me a PM exactly like his last post. Minus the first 2 words.  ;D ;)

I'd be a little upset if I didn't win it, too. I thought I was going to get outbid.
Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on August 30, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: Monolith on August 30, 2012, 08:54:16 PM
I'd be a little upset if I didn't win it, too. I thought I was going to get outbid.

Well, I gave it a try, but funds being what they are at the moment... Did you know this existed before you saw it on eBay?

Title: Re: Japanese King Kong Wind-Up?
Post by: Monolith on August 31, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on August 30, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Well, I gave it a try, but funds being what they are at the moment... Did you know this existed before you saw it on eBay?

No, I don't remember of seeing one before, but it fits in with other '60's animated Kong stuff I have.