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Yup I'm talking about the Frankenstein Candy Bucket again. If anyone knows me this is one of my top want list items and lust after it constantly. I'll apologize in advance if I've asked this question before or if it has been brought up in past post. Any way here's my question. Does anyone know how many or how long this Bucket was produced and was it a nation wide release? I guess the reason I'm asking and so curious is I either own or have seen in person almost every blow mold Halloween bucket made. The only ones I don't think I've seen are the Topstone buckets and The Glenn Stange frankenstein bucket. Any way I guess I'm trying to figure out the rareness and what are my chances of finding one in Kansas.lol! So any info is appreciated.  :D

Not sure if this helps, but mine originally cost 64 cents  ;)

(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail3.jpg)

Quote from: lblambert on June 15, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
Not sure if this helps, but mine originally cost 64 cents  ;)

(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail3.jpg)

That might help actually. Is Caldor the stores name? Wow yours looks like in  great shape.

Yes Caldor was the name of the store chain...mine's in pretty decent shape...here are a few more pics if you're interested


(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail1.jpg)

(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail2.jpg)

Quote from: lblambert on June 15, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
Yes Caldor was the name of the store chain...mine's in pretty decent shape...here are a few more pics if you're interested


(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail1.jpg)

(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail2.jpg)

Wow! that's awesome. Thanks for sharing. What state did you buy this in?

No clue what state it originally came from. I bought it from another collector.

Quote from: lblambert on June 15, 2012, 10:37:13 PM
No clue what state it originally came from. I bought it from another collector.

Oh i see. I'll do some research on the company and see what i come up with.

Quote from: lblambert on June 15, 2012, 10:37:13 PM
No clue what state it originally came from. I bought it from another collector.

Well it looks like Caldor is a east coast 5 and dime that is no longer around. Seems like most of these buckets from what i have noticed have been discovered in the east coast area

Man, Caldor's was a great department store! I miss those terrific 5 and 10s.

Quote from: Scatter on June 16, 2012, 08:39:58 AM
Man, Caldor's was a great department store! I miss those terrific 5 and 10s.

My fave around here was Kresge's. 

Caldor was great-they were around until the mid 90s here in upstate NY. In the 80s I used to buy alot of odd VHS tapes from a company called Star Classics from Caldor. The boxes had cool comic book style colored ink covers and they had titles none of the other PD VHS companies of the era had like Queen of Blood, The Mysterians, Legend of the 7 Golden vampires, 2 volumes of the 60s Kong cartoon and tons of other stuff.Caldor was the only store chain that carried Star Classics VHS around here.

A request to our Hosts: I suggest a memory lane thread on remembering the five and dimes.

Quote from: Dr. Madd on June 16, 2012, 05:45:18 PM
A request to our Hosts: I suggest a memory lane thread on remembering the five and dimes.

That would be cool.

Quote from: lblambert on June 15, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
Yes Caldor was the name of the store chain...mine's in pretty decent shape...here are a few more pics if you're interested


(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail1.jpg)

(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu69/YukonLeeFX/frankpail2.jpg)

.i got mine from an estate sale in suburbia l.a ..( kinda like suburbs of burbank/studio city/ hollywood hills .. .)

ridiculously cheap.. its pretty much like noone knew ""what" it was . . works for me ;)  I'll take it !!! :D

Quote from: missdead13 on June 17, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
.i got mine from an estate sale in suburbia l.a ..( kinda like suburbs of burbank/studio city/ hollywood hills .. .)

ridiculously cheap.. its pretty much like noone knew ""what" it was . . works for me ;)  I'll take it !!! :D

That's awesome. I'm hoping this Halloween is good to me and I find one. I'm wanting this thing so bad i'm lusting after it! lol! ;)

I grew up on the East coast and we went to Caldor's every once in a while, but I never got a Frankenstein bucket. I do have a Frankenstein speaker head, however. I don't remember of going to Caldor's after the late '70's though. Good luck finding a bucket. I'd like to find one, too.

Quote from: Monolith on June 18, 2012, 12:33:36 AM
I grew up on the East coast and we went to Caldor's every once in a while, but I never got a Frankenstein bucket. I do have a Frankenstein speaker head, however. I don't remember of going to Caldor's after the late '70's though. Good luck finding a bucket. I'd like to find one, too.

Well heck man your a head of the game. The speaker is the hard one to find from what i understand. Not to say the candy bucket isn't hard to find..cause it is.lol! i think i would be happy if I at least had one of the 3 Glenn Strange pieces. Although that green paint on orange blow mold is really awesome. Thanks for the luck I need it! And good luck to you too! I wonder how many years this thing was produced and how big of run. I realize it's a old item but i've never scene one and i've seen almost every old blow mold bucket there is or own it. So i'm starting to think it wasn't distributed around these parts (Kansas) or it was a low print run or maybe it's just that damn cool no one wants to get rid of one.lol! here's a very small portion of me and my mom's blow mold bucket collection and I mean very small.


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QuoteSo i'm starting to think it wasn't distributed around these parts (Kansas) or it was a low print run or maybe it's just that damn cool no one wants to get rid of one.lol

Oh I'm thinkin' they are around.......  believe me, no one in Kansas is gonna know how sought after they are..........and you will have to beat me to it if one sticks it's head up these parts!......Ha!   Buddy

I don't know how many were produced, or how large the run was, but I do know the Clinton plastic company was a very small one. It was much smaller than the others in this area like A J Renzi or Union Products, all of which my father used to deliver boxes to back in their hay days.

I am younger than this Frankenstein candy buckets time, but I do have a great memeory from when I was a kid that my dad one year at Halloween came home with Hulk and Spiderman candy buckets for me and my brothers from Renzi.

I am also an Apes collector and have been looking for the molds to the Renzi banks for years without luck, and my mom searchs yard sales for one of these buckets, but hasn't turn up anything yet, but I am sure they are still out there. I constantly here of people who still find amazing things at yard sales for less than a buck and I have had some luck myself with rare finds.

H101 that Pirate Pumpkin is a classic!

Quote from: bigbud on June 18, 2012, 09:39:36 AM
Oh I'm thinkin' they are around.......  believe me, no one in Kansas is gonna know how sought after they are..........and you will have to beat me to it if one sticks it's head up these parts!......Ha!   Buddy

Ya i'm just kinda wondering if they were shipped out this way or unless some one moved with one. Don't make me wrestle you for it Buddy.lol!  ;)

Quote from: jimm on June 18, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
H101 that Pirate Pumpkin is a classic!

Jim he is actually a new addition to our pumpkin collection that we got last year. My Mom found him and gave him to me. We've got lots more buckets stashed in the basement and attic but i think he's my favorite. i'm got a soft spot for him.  :)

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 18, 2012, 01:14:18 AM
Well heck man your a head of the game. The speaker is the hard one to find from what i understand. Not to say the candy bucket isn't hard to find..cause it is.lol! i think i would be happy if I at least had one of the 3 Glenn Strange pieces.


(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/fear-the-reaper/downsized_0404122019.jpg)

I'm definitely happy to have the speaker head, it's one of, if not the most, prized of my possessions.

Nice blow mold pumpkins. I too, really like the pirate one.

Quote from: Monolith on June 19, 2012, 12:38:24 AM
I'm definitely happy to have the speaker head, it's one of, if not the most, prized of my possessions.

Nice blow mold pumpkins. I too, really like the pirate one.

Ya he's a neat pumpkin

A heads up: there will be a Frankenstein candy bucket in the next Hake's auction, I've been told.

Speaking of Hake's, the two "Charles Addams" sketches in the last auction were forgeries, which shocked me. Plus, they brought top dollar for what they were, had they been authentic.

Quote from: Monster Bob on June 21, 2012, 08:23:31 AM

Speaking of Hake's, the two "Charles Addams" sketches in the last auction were forgeries, which shocked me. Plus, they brought top dollar for what they were, had they been authentic.

Whoa when did this news come out? Was this corrected?

They went through and sold for ~$450 and ~$750 or so. Apparently no one called them on it. I am pretty sure I know who the consignor was (a good guess anyway), who has been a source of similar looking "Bad Addams" art for a couple of years.

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 15, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
Any way I guess I'm trying to figure out the rareness and what are my chances of finding one in Kansas.lol!

You have no chance of finding one in Kansas now that Missdead has joined Bigbud in vacuuming up anything cool in the immediate area.

???

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
You have no chance of finding one in Kansas now that Missdead has joined Bigbud in vacuuming anything cool up in the immediate area.

???

LOL! Like a lotta of my finds it will just be luck. All the blow mold me and my mom have has been bought for less then a $1 buck each and honestly most of it has been around the .25 cent mark. if i ever get one i'm sure I'll find it that way.

Quote from: Dr. Madd on June 16, 2012, 05:45:18 PMA request to our Hosts: I suggest a memory lane thread on remembering the five and dimes.

1. We already have such a thread:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=10751.msg170737#msg170737 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=10751.msg170737#msg170737)

And you even posted in it!

2. If you think any particular thread would be a good idea, why would you not just start the thread yourself?

???

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 26, 2012, 12:41:57 PM
LOL! Like a lotta of my finds it will just be luck. All the blow mold me and my mom have has been bought for less then a $1 buck each and honestly most of it has been around the .25 cent mark. if i ever get one i'm sure I'll find it that way.

Not with Missdead bidding $100 each for any and all Halloween themed candy buckets in the state of Kansas.

:-\

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
Not with Missdead bidding $100 each for any and all Halloween themed candy buckets in the state of Kansas.

:-\

where is this bidding at?

Door to door. She's coming to a street near you!

;)

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
Door to door. She's coming to a street near you!

;)

I could always use a hot babe to come to my door.  ;)

Careful. If she finds out about your collection, she won't leave.

;)

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
Careful. If she finds out about your collection, she won't leave.

;)

lol! i may not want her too.lol!  ;D

One thing i was curious about is i had heard rumors of there being variations of this bucket with slightly different paint schemes

QuoteNot with Missdead bidding $100 each for any and all Halloween themed candy buckets in the state of Kansas.

Horror101....Hep is just wishing he could get to Kansas....they keep turning him back at the Canadian border........ha!       Buddy

lol!

Well the Strange candy bucket is up at Hake's. I'm not sure what these things usually go for but the start is $500! To me that seems insane and really kinda depressing.

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
You have no chance of finding one in Kansas now that Missdead has joined Bigbud in vacuuming up anything cool in the immediate area.

???

;D ;D  this cracks me up...what we need to do here is join forces ( buddy & I ) , then we do clean sweeps for the best possible prices.
the only problem with that, is that we may fight over the final hauls once we're done :D  lol
I'm not very good at sharing  ???

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
Door to door. She's coming to a street near you!

;)

:laugh: :laugh:  wow.... do you know me or what ?? :laugh:

in the Hake's auction it mentions there was a resin replica in the 80's? Anyone else know about this or have seen this?

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 27, 2012, 01:38:49 PM
Well the Strange candy bucket is up at Hake's. I'm not sure what these things usually go for but the start is $500! To me that seems insane and really kinda depressing.

Did you really expect to get so lucky that you'd find the real prizes at a yard sale someplace for a buck or two?

???

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 28, 2012, 04:05:19 AM
in the Hake's auction it mentions there was a resin replica in the 80's? Anyone else know about this or have seen this?

They are talking about the resin "head speaker" copy that Keith Sarno. For the money people want for it, buy a real bucket head.

$500 seems like plenty to start for the Hake's bucket, considering it is missing the handle, plus there seems to be a problem with the front of the bucket lip, above the forehead, like the hole has been widened or something and is now sinking in. Honestly, it is a common enough piece, and there are so many better examples out there, I would hold off (*at*) $500+. 

Quote from: Hepcat on June 28, 2012, 09:24:01 AM
Did you really expect to get so lucky that you'd find the real prizes at a yard sale someplace for a buck or two?

???

I just didn't know it was at that level. I knew it was worth a bit but $500 to start? ANd yes i do expect to find him at a yard sale.lol!

Quote from: Monster Bob on June 28, 2012, 09:41:50 AM
They are talking about the resin "head speaker" copy that Keith Sarno. For the money people want for it, buy a real bucket head.

$500 seems like plenty to start for the Hake's bucket, considering it is missing the handle, plus there seems to be a problem with the front of the bucket lip, above the forehead, like the hole has been widened or something and is now sinking in. Honestly, it is a common enough piece, and there are so many better examples out there, I would hold off (*at*) $500+.

Thanks Bob. I can always count on you for great info.

I paid a little over $500 for mine, but it has the handle and good paint.  I think you can expect to pay over $500 for one at this point, but like Bob said; I would hold out for a better one at that price.

Quote from: poseablemonster on June 29, 2012, 09:07:46 AM
I paid a little over $500 for mine, but it has the handle and good paint.  I think you can expect to pay over $500 for one at this point, but like Bob said; I would hold out for a better one at that price.

Ya it's a rough one. If i was gonna spend that kinda dough it would be for a nice copy. One thing i noticed is this ones color painted on it was different than ones i've seen pictures of. Most i've seen just have the slim green  dry brush across the front face. I'm kinda wondering what all colors it came in?

Quote from: Sean on June 16, 2012, 09:25:27 AM
My fave around here was Kresge's.

Yeah!! We had a Kresge's too!! Great place!

Quote from: bigbud on June 27, 2012, 10:05:16 AM
Horror101....Hep is just wishing he could get to Kansas....they keep turning him back at the Canadian border........ha!       Buddy

I know for a fact this is untrue. After all, if YOU had a chance to deport that demented cat, wouldn't you DO it?

Quote from: Scatter on June 29, 2012, 05:11:50 PM
I know for a fact this is untrue. After all, if YOU had a chance to deport that demented cat, wouldn't you DO it?

LOL!

(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae30/nekozorro/evilkitty.jpg)

u6juu

Quote from: Hepcat on June 30, 2012, 03:33:31 PM
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u6juu

Woe!! bad kitty!

Quote from: Hepcat on June 26, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
You have no chance of finding one in Kansas now that Missdead has joined Bigbud in vacuuming up anything cool in the immediate area.

???

And I am looking as well. I hit ALOT of garage sales and estate sales around here, so if I find more than one I will share.

Quote from: John Pertwee on July 04, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
And I am looking as well. I hit ALOT of garage sales and estate sales around here, so if I find more than one I will share.

Awesome to hear. i hit a lot too no luck so far.

Hah, that's what I do at Flea Markets etc. visualize finding a specific rare item. Never seems to work, but I do find enuff items to keep me returning

Quote from: jimm on July 05, 2012, 08:58:40 AM
Hah, that's what I do at Flea Markets etc. visualize finding a specific rare item. Never seems to work, but I do find enuff items to keep me returning

I've had a dry spell for a while something big is gonna happen soon. I can feel it!

not even one bid on the bucket at Hake's. looks like everyone is feeling for that one it's a little pricey.

I have a resin copy of the Bucket (or maybe speaker, not sure) -- which I got at a Wonderfest years ago.  Don't recall who I got it from -- but pretty sure it wasn't Keith Sarno.  Here it is all painted up.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3046/3072110111_3146ea5fc9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110111/)
Frankbucket01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110111/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3237/3072110177_95f6e81ac2.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110177/)
Frankbucket02 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110177/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3053/3072947786_f3c34ebceb.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072947786/)
Frankbucket03 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072947786/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

Quote from: Scary Terry on July 10, 2012, 07:24:13 PM
I have a resin copy of the Bucket (or maybe speaker, not sure) -- which I got at a Wonderfest years ago.  Don't recall who I got it from -- but pretty sure it wasn't Keith Sarno.  Here it is all painted up.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3046/3072110111_3146ea5fc9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110111/)
Frankbucket01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110111/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3237/3072110177_95f6e81ac2.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110177/)
Frankbucket02 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110177/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3053/3072947786_f3c34ebceb.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072947786/)
Frankbucket03 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072947786/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

very cool.

I think this is the same bucket that is for sale at Hake's. I've never seen the top of one of these but I think Monster Bob was right about the top being cut.  https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=6035&aid=51163&lid=13038666# (https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=6035&aid=51163&lid=13038666#)

well as much as this is my hearts desire. I can't afford it But there is one for sale on ebay.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335)

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 12, 2012, 12:12:21 AM
well as much as this is my hearts desire. I can't afford it But there is one for sale on ebay.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335)

You have to admit that the free shipping is very generous.

Quote from: twilitezoner on August 12, 2012, 07:03:30 AM
You have to admit that the free shipping is very generous.

For $550 I would hope so.LOL! But ya free shipping is always nice and helps out. I hope it goes to a member.

The price isn't bad.

Quote from: poseablemonster on August 12, 2012, 08:20:12 AM
The price isn't bad.

it's in pretty good shape too.

This is going to be my next big purchase.

Quote from: Dr.Terror on August 12, 2012, 12:51:33 PM
This is going to be my next big purchase.

Ya i want that thing so bad i can taste t but no funds for it. it already sold i believe.

I want to upgrade to one with a handle, but that one had too much paint wear. The paint on mine is very nice, but the handle is missing.

And I really don't need to be spending $500 on a plastic Frankenstein head right now.

As much as i like the Speaker version,  I actually prefer the Halloween light most of all.   Thats the one I really want since it covers 2 areas. H lights and monsters. Do they command more?

Quote from: Dr.Terror on August 12, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
As much as i like the Speaker version,  I actually prefer the Halloween light most of all.   Thats the one I really want since it covers 2 areas. H lights and monsters. Do they command more?

The lights don't often come up, and seems like I have seen more than one configuration with them. Some are taller I think, but that may not be correct.  Anyway, the lights I've seen sell do go in the $750+ range. That's not to say one won't sell for less.

Quote from: raycastile on August 12, 2012, 02:04:13 PM
I want to upgrade to one with a handle, but that one had too much paint wear. The paint on mine is very nice, but the handle is missing.

Ya a handle would be nice but me I just want one paint ,no paint. handle ,no handle. At this point I just want one. I have a major thing for halloween buckets and this one just brings the kid out of me. It's weird when ever I see a picture of it I feel like I'm 8 and this is the thing of all things.

Quote from: Dr.Terror on August 12, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
As much as i like the Speaker version,  I actually prefer the Halloween light most of all.   Thats the one I really want since it covers 2 areas. H lights and monsters. Do they command more?

The light is cool but i've only seen a pic of one but never one for sale.

well here's another one that surfaced.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290760139693 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290760139693)

I want it! Shhh, don't tell Miss Dead about this.

That's a nice one. See how the hole is cut smaller than the Hake's head on top?

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 13, 2012, 05:50:42 AM
well here's another one that surfaced.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290760139693 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290760139693)

Boy, that is a nice one. This is your big chance!

;)

The bid doubled in the last two hours!

I gues Horror1o1 is stepping up!

8)

Definitely on the want, want, WANT list.....just not on the need, need, NEED list; If I only had the dough!

I was going to bid, but I'm afraid this one might pass the one grand mark.

Quote from: Mord on August 13, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
The bid doubled in the last two hours!

Somebody pointed out an on-going auction to a monster forum with almost 5000 members - not unexpected result.

That's why I don't call attention to open auctions, only Buy-It-Now listings.

Quote from: Hepcat on August 13, 2012, 04:11:06 PM
I gues Horror1o1 is stepping up!

8)

i wish man. I just don't have that kind of money. It is a nice one though.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 13, 2012, 04:20:56 PM
Somebody pointed out an on-going auction to a monster forum with almost 5000 members - not unexpected result.

That's why I don't call attention to open auctions, only Buy-It-Now listings.

sorry man i guess i didn't see it that way. if i see something good online i try to point it out to uma members if i'm not bidding so someone here can bid. I'll make sure to try not to do that any more.

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 13, 2012, 04:25:52 PM
sorry man i guess i didn't see it that way. if i see something good online i try to point it out to uma members if i'm not bidding so someone here can bid. I'll make sure to try not to do that any more.

I made the same mistake when I started out here.

Sometimes I will send a private message to someone here who has said the item is a "grail".  But I do try not to pit the members against one another.  It just drives prices up.

If I see a really good Buy-It-Now price on a nice toy that I already have or don't want, I'll call members' attention to that.  Especially if it is a multi-item listing.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 13, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
I made the same mistake when I started out here.

Sometimes I will send a private message to someone here who has said the item is a "grail".  But I do try not to pit the members against one another.  It just drives prices up.

If I see a really good Buy-It-Now price on a nice toy that I already have or don't want, I'll call members' attention to that.  Especially if it is a multi-item listing.

cool man i'll have to remember that.

Pointing out this auction I don't think is bad.  t;s not hidden or anything, and always sell high.   

What i don't get is people bidding on an item before the last 5 mins.   All bidding early and often does is stress you out and make you pay more money.

Quote from: Scary Terry on July 10, 2012, 07:24:13 PM
I have a resin copy of the Bucket (or maybe speaker, not sure) -- which I got at a Wonderfest years ago.  Don't recall who I got it from -- but pretty sure it wasn't Keith Sarno.  Here it is all painted up.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3046/3072110111_3146ea5fc9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110111/)
Frankbucket01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110111/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3237/3072110177_95f6e81ac2.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072110177/)
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(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3053/3072947786_f3c34ebceb.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072947786/)
Frankbucket03 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scaryterry/3072947786/#) by scarytb (http://www.flickr.com/people/scaryterry/), on Flickr

I just saw a bucket similar to this at a vendor's table at Flashback Weekend on Saturday. My funds were extremely low so I didn't even bother to check for a price. It would have been too heartbreaking.

looks great!

I know everyone hates repops but i wish i would see kids carrying buckets of this quality down the street on halloween. Seems like there is nothing cool for the kids these days. Also is it me or does this scream to be made in glow in the dark?

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 16, 2012, 08:52:46 AM
I know everyone hates repops but i wish i would see kids carrying buckets of this quality down the street on halloween. Seems like there is nothing cool for the kids these days. Also is it me or does this scream to be made in glow in the dark?

I'd buy one.

I'm with you.  I have always thought this should be repopped - and several other Universal Monsters added to the line for good measure.

(I fear we will be in the minority.)

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 16, 2012, 08:56:33 AM
I'd buy one.

I'm with you.  I have always thought this should be repopped - and several other Universal Monsters added to the line for good measure.

(I fear we will be in the minority.)

well i'm not even saying repoping this but something of the same quality being made. i rarely ever see new halloween costumes and buckets for kids and feel excited for them.

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 16, 2012, 08:52:46 AM
I know everyone hates repops but i wish i would see kids carrying buckets of this quality down the street on halloween. Seems like there is nothing cool for the kids these days. Also is it me or does this scream to be made in glow in the dark?

Problem is, kids don't go trick or treating these days!

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 16, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Problem is, kids don't go trick or treating these days!

Really? In my town the little guys are everywhere but i think you are right that it does seem like less and less. Maybe i'm just too old school but i miss the days when I seen cool buckets, Ben Cooper and collegeville costumes and paper cut outs lining the halls of the stores. It kinda makes me sad if i would have known when I was a kid it would have been gone I would have enjoyed it more.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 16, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Problem is, kids don't go trick or treating these days!

They do in my neighbourhood, but with parents securely in tow.

::)

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 16, 2012, 09:07:04 AMIt kinda makes me sad if i would have known when I was a kid it would have been gone I would have enjoyed it more.

Enjoyed it more? I don't think I could have possibly enjoyed it more! Masks, even costumes, and more free candy than you could eat in half a week! Too cool. Other than getting apples of course.

I think I enjoyed Halloween even more than Xmas. Only Firecracker Day approached Halloween when it came to a fun holiday for kids.

;)

Quote from: Hepcat on August 16, 2012, 10:07:24 AM
They do in my neighbourhood, but with parents securely in tow.

::)

Enjoyed it more? I don't think I could have possibly enjoyed it more! Masks, even costumes, and more free candy than you could eat in half a week! Too cool. Other than getting apples of course.

I think I enjoyed Halloween even more than Xmas. Only Firecracker Day approached Halloween when it came to a fun holiday for kids.

;)

ya i'm not sure i could have enjoyed it more but i think i would have soaked it in more.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 16, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Problem is, kids don't go trick or treating these days!

Tell that to the 1200 that cross my door - tots to teens to grown women asking if my house is passing out the jellied crabby patties!

So is your house the one passing out the jellied crabby patties then? And whereabouts do you live?

???

There is very little trick 'n treat in my neighborhood. But where I grew up, and to this day, there is a lot. Guess it depends on the area. Plus it's usually really cold up here.

As per the bucket~ didn't Sideshow or someone produce a Frankenstein bucket of their own? I don't have that bucket, only the original G.S. 60s one. Did the modern one sell well? Anyone know? Was it in stores?(I never saw it)
Perhaps that's the answer to "why?"

I'm pretty sure it never came out.

Quote from: Hepcat on August 16, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
So is your house the one passing out the jellied crabby patties then? And whereabouts do you live?

???

In Glendale Calif.
Do you want me to save you some?

Quote from: Mord on August 16, 2012, 04:04:50 PM
I'm pretty sure it never came out.

Think they did, but limited? The year was 1999, I believe.

Here's a guy who was excited to get one and posted it to his site (bucket with tag)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/Sideshowcandybucket.jpg)

Here's one that sold for $9.99 this year~
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/Sideshowcandybucket2.jpg)

I don't care for the style too much. But Sideshow should get an "A" for at least making the effort.

Sadly, these never got produced:


(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6021/5923818851_737074cf28.jpg)

The Frankenstein one looks like the Factory bust- sans base. Even the eyes blink.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 16, 2012, 06:10:23 PM

Sadly, these never got produced:


(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6021/5923818851_737074cf28.jpg)

Wow, too bad

They were pretty widely available at both CVS and Target f I remember correctly, but just for Halloween and in the Halloween section. They may have had them at Toys R Us as well. I saw a lot of them on close out.

The Global releases (well, no releases) are a real shame. I think they tried twice to get large enough orders from retail to take the risk. Sure would like to know who sculpted those and if production molds were ever made.

Quote from: Richard on August 16, 2012, 05:59:07 PM
Think they did, but limited? The year was 1999, I believe.

Here's a guy who was excited to get one and posted it to his site (bucket with tag)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/Sideshowcandybucket.jpg)

Here's one that sold for $9.99 this year~
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/Sideshowcandybucket2.jpg)

I don't care for the style too much. But Sideshow should get an "A" for at least making the effort.

I did see one of these some where once but it just didn't float my boat but a A for effort

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 16, 2012, 06:10:23 PM

Sadly, these never got produced:


(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6021/5923818851_737074cf28.jpg)

Now this is a shame these are awesome and that wolfman is great I think I like him best.

I remember the Sideshow Frank head buckets in quite a few big chain stores in the midwest at Halloween, for a couple of years. 1999-2000 sounds good.

Like you, Richard, it's okaaaaaayyyy...but, well you know the rest.

Well the Strange bucjet went for $688 bucks! i about crap my pants...twice!lol!

The winning bidder bid 7 times.

One of the other bidders bid 16 times!

Sellers love nutty bidding like that.  It always drives the price up to the highest possible result.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 19, 2012, 08:53:57 PM

The winning bidder bid 7 times.

One of the other bidders bid 16 times!

Sellers love nutty bidding like that.  It always drives the price up to the highest possible result.

ya that's pretty crazy if i was gonna bid on it it would have been once.lol! But seriously it went for more than i expected.

I actually thought it would surpass the thousand mark. I was going to bid $550 but the bidding got out of hand. Did anyone here get it?

Quote from: Mord on August 19, 2012, 09:43:43 PM
I actually thought it would surpass the thousand mark. I was going to bid $550 but the bidding got out of hand. Did anyone here get it?

i hope some one on here won it. It was a nice piece.

16 bids and only a bronze medal and no bucket

I thought that one would top a grand, too.  It's hard to find a nice one like that.

has anyone seen pics of kids carrying this bucket trick or treating? Man i would love to see that.

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
One thing i was curious about is i had heard rumors of there being variations of this bucket with slightly different paint schemes

I'm trying to get thru the whole thread, but had to pause here and respond... yes, that is true, there are paint variations.  I have two variations of this bucket and had owned a third (in an orange plastic that was almost HOT PINK!)  Here are mine: 
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/CLINTTOYSFrankensteinbucketsSZ1.jpg) 

BTW, the pirate JOL bucket dates to the 1970s. 

Quote from: Allhallowsday on August 21, 2012, 08:44:32 PM
I'm trying to get thru the whole thread, but had to pause here and respond... yes, that is true, there are paint variations.  I have two variations of this bucket and had owned a third (in an orange plastic that was almost HOT PINK!)  Here are mine: 
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/CLINTTOYSFrankensteinbucketsSZ1.jpg) 

BTW, the pirate JOL bucket dates to the 1970s.

Wow great buckets man. I really do love these things. And thanks for the info about the pirate. I'm thinking he maybe a little hard to find cause i rarely see him for sale.

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 21, 2012, 08:54:54 PM
Wow great buckets man. I really do love these things. And thanks for the info about the pirate. I'm thinking he maybe a little hard to find cause i rarely see him for sale.

The pirate is a little tougher to find.  I also have too many Halloween buckets!  Though I registered in 2010, I only recently came back and started posting.  How do I ad an avatar to my user ID?  I would have pm'd you but I am not savvy on this forum yet. 
I am selling my monster collection piecemeal, and posted tonight in the MPC topic...

Great photo of the buckets!

Quote from: Allhallowsday on August 21, 2012, 09:03:36 PM
How do I ad an avatar to my user ID?  I would have pm'd you but I am not savvy on this forum yet. 

Replied to your pm w Mike Scott's avatar instructions. To pm someone directly (and not in reply) you select the small word balloon under at the bottom of their name / avatar / stats on the left of their posts OR go to their profile. Welcome back!

Quote from: Allhallowsday on August 21, 2012, 09:03:36 PM
The pirate is a little tougher to find.  I also have too many Halloween buckets!  Though I registered in 2010, I only recently came back and started posting.  How do I ad an avatar to my user ID?  I would have pm'd you but I am not savvy on this forum yet. 
I am selling my monster collection piecemeal, and posted tonight in the MPC topic...

i sent you a Dm about these.

I figured it out, thanks. 

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/covertestsz1.jpg)

Super cool stuff! What is that Dracula (it actually has a Bela thing going)?

Quote from: Mord on August 21, 2012, 10:01:20 PM
Super cool stuff! What is that Dracula (it actually has a Bela thing going)?

The dracula is a JAYMAR UHM... walker... I have a pic of the other one (Frankenstein) which I don't own and a quick look thru my pix did not turn it up (and the correct name).  When I find that correct name, I'll let you know... I do know it was made by JAYMAR (who made the monster puzzles) and was meant to be attached to a spool of thread (?) it has wheels underneath, to allow it to "walk" across a tabletop...  :-\

It's a Tricky Walker. Great to see Son of Garloo, too.

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on August 22, 2012, 12:50:37 AM
It's a Tricky Walker. Great to see Son of Garloo, too.

I never owned a Great Garloo, but I do have both versions of the Son of Garloo - and one box they "share".

Wow, I missed Garloo the first time around. I'd love to see the rest of the stuff you have there.

i like garloo as well

Somehow this one got by me without my knowledge.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335#ht_720wt_933 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335#ht_720wt_933)

Quote from: ilikemonsters on August 29, 2012, 11:14:08 AM
Somehow this one got by me without my knowledge.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335#ht_720wt_933 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-UNIVERSAL-FRANKENSTEIN-GLENN-STRANGE-MONSTER-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-RARE-/380461970229?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58954cf335#ht_720wt_933)

And it came from a non-smoking, non-drinking, vegan environment. WTF. I only buy from drunk carnivores.

The whole ebay 'non-smoking' thing is so stupid. With a 50-year old toy, who would believe no one has ever smoked around it?

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 29, 2012, 11:25:09 AMThe whole ebay 'non-smoking' thing is so stupid.

As if it matters for plastic anyway.

::)

I make all my toy figures smoke cigarettes and drink whisky.

Dudes, you've never received something that reeked so bad you needed to air it out in the garage?
I've had some packages that looked normal on the outside, but hermetically sealed, and as soon as opened the room was turned into a rum soaked dive bar!

So air the thing out. Have you ever actually encountered a situation where an item was discoloured by fumes?

???

BTW, before anybody jumps to any wrong conclusions, I don't smoke and never have.

C:)

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 29, 2012, 11:25:09 AM

And it came from a non-smoking, non-drinking, vegan environment. WTF. I only buy from drunk carnivores.

The whole ebay 'non-smoking' thing is so stupid. With a 50-year old toy, who would believe no one has ever smoked around it?

Some one could have told me they used it in a murder and i might still think about buying the bucket if it was at the right price. And yes i want one that bad.LOL! ;)

How hard is it to deodorize something? SMOKE 'EM IF YA GOT 'EM!!

I'd pay a premium for a murder weapon Glenn Strange Franken Bucket!

Quote from: ilikemonsters on August 29, 2012, 04:07:14 PM
I'd pay a premium for a murder weapon Glenn Strange Franken Bucket!

LOL!

did you notice the hole is bigger in this bucket?

Would you buy a candy bucket from this man?

(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/M/Charles-Manson-9397912-2-402.jpg)

He sold me a used Beatles album once (The White Album, I believe).

as long as he is not a heavy smoker.

There were some red stains on the cover, but the records played fine.

You're all bucket whores. I respect that.

I also noticed the strap is sometimes attached to the inside of the head, sometimes to the outside. Also, sometimes it is stapled and sometimes it's riveted on. How 'bout that. I wonder why the hole got bigger? There was a stamped "cut" line on these. Maybe the mold got damaged or...?

I don't imagine there was much in the way of quality control on the production line for an item that retailed in the U.S. for 69¢.

It sure would explain why some of the buckets look like they were painted from 20 ft. away by drunks.

In today's dollars, the bucket would cost $5.12. Kind of expensive for what it is, I guess.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 29, 2012, 06:03:11 PM

In today's dollars, the bucket would cost $5.12. Kind of expensive for what it is, I guess.

Today the plastic would be half as thick and licensing fees would drive the price up to $10.00 or more.

Quote from: Scatter on August 29, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
Would you buy a candy bucket from this man?

(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/M/Charles-Manson-9397912-2-402.jpg)

I would buy a bucket from him.LOL! And yes I'm a bucket Whore.lol!

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 29, 2012, 05:52:49 PM

I also noticed the strap is sometimes attached to the inside of the head, sometimes to the outside. Also, sometimes it is stapled and sometimes it's riveted on. How 'bout that. I wonder why the hole got bigger? There was a stamped "cut" line on these. Maybe the mold got damaged or...?

Ya I noticed that myself about the way the strap was attached. As far as the hole maybe it has something to do with the monster speaker? I'm not sure which came first? And $5 something for a bucket would be expensive for what it is but man it would be cool to see the kids carry something this awesome to trick or treat. I really wish some one would come forward with a vintage halloween pictures with kids carrying one of these.

The speaker came from a different mold altogether. The tops are completely different.

I have never seen a vintage pic of a kid with one. Years ago, I bought a head speaker off a woman who had a photo of herself holding it as a kid. I do not have a copy handy though- it is on the hard drive of a dead computer I used 15 years ago (3 computers ago!)

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 29, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The speaker came from a different mold altogether. The tops are completely different.

I have never seen a vintage pic of a kid with one. Years ago, I bought a head speaker off a woman who had a photo of herself holding it as a kid. I do not have a copy handy though- it is on the hard drive of a dead computer I used 15 years ago (3 computers ago!)

dang Bob if you ever get a chance you should dig it out. That sounds like pure monster Magic there.

Have you posted a pic of your speaker?
Eric

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 29, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The speaker came from a different mold altogether. The tops are completely different.

I have never seen a vintage pic of a kid with one. Years ago, I bought a head speaker off a woman who had a photo of herself holding it as a kid. I do not have a copy handy though- it is on the hard drive of a dead computer I used 15 years ago (3 computers ago!)

hey Bob do you have any pics of the hot pink bucket?

From left to right..."Light" version, standard orange, pink version
I am very fond of the light because it is a solid head, i.e. no hole in top.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/backlotcharlie/DSC03023-1.jpg)

Head speaker and original box
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/backlotcharlie/DSC03019-1.jpg)

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 29, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
I would buy a bucket from him.LOL! And yes I'm a bucket Whore.lol!

So what did you hate about the fellow listing the really nice bucket that just sold? It went for such a low price that we thought you'd be all over it like Wolf Man on a pork chop.

???

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 30, 2012, 07:45:22 AM
From left to right..."Light" version, standard orange, pink version
I am very fond of the light because it is a solid head, i.e. no hole in top.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/backlotcharlie/DSC03023-1.jpg)

Head speaker and original box
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/backlotcharlie/DSC03019-1.jpg)

The light is pretty awesome I seen a pic online of one with a base as well. I really like the ones with lime green splashed on their face but that hot pink one is pretty neat.

Quote from: Hepcat on August 30, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
So what did you hate about the fellow listing the really nice bucket that just sold? It went for such a low price that we thought you'd be all over it like Wolf Man on a pork chop.

???

well hep it went for around $688 if memory serves me right and although i dearly love this monster bucket that is just too much for me at the moment. Maybe some day? I need to actually make a bucket fund.

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 30, 2012, 04:53:49 PM
well hep it went for around $688 if memory serves me right and although i dearly love this monster bucket that is just too much for me at the moment. Maybe some day? I need to actually make a bucket fund.

Apparently a mere pittance to our Hepcat. Hey Hep, just pick one up for the boy!!  ;D

Quote from: Scatter on August 30, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
Apparently a mere pittance to our Hepcat. Hey Hep, just pick one up for the boy!!  ;D

LOL! My birthday is only about 5 months away.  ::)

Plenty of time for the Hepster to do his shopping!! Things are looking up for ya buddy!!

Quote from: Scatter on August 30, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
Plenty of time for the Hepster to do his shopping!! Things are looking up for ya buddy!!

LOL!

Horror101- I would recommend that you start a bucket fund. Popularity of this piece has really grown over the last few years- it has literally doubled-tripled in price. Finding one at a flea market for a buck these days is about as likely as a lightning strike or a shark attack. And the beauty is (unlike a lot of things), in a pinch, you can always get money back out of it.

Quote from: Scatter on August 30, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
Plenty of time for the Hepster to do his shopping!! Things are looking up for ya buddy!!

Better yet it may even be time enough to light a fire under my own ass and start applying myself at the office again!

;)

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 30, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Horror101- I would recommend that you start a bucket fund. Popularity of this piece has really grown over the last few years- it has literally doubled-tripled in price. Finding one at a flea market for a buck these days is about as likely as a lightning strike or a shark attack. And the beauty is (unlike a lot of things), in a pinch, you can always get money back out of it.

Well Bob I usually have pretty decent luck finding blow mold but if i do get one i would never sell it. For me to actually own one I'll have to find it at the right price. My only concern is how many were made and if they made it to my neck of the woods? Seems like most of them are around of the east coast for the most part although there are a few exceptions.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 30, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Horror101- I would recommend that you start a bucket fund. Popularity of this piece has really grown over the last few years- it has literally doubled-tripled in price. Finding one at a flea market for a buck these days is about as likely as a lightning strike or a shark attack. And the beauty is (unlike a lot of things), in a pinch, you can always get money back out of it.

We'll then the answer is to move to Universal Studios Hollywood, where they have shark attacks on every tour tram. :P

Quote from: Haunted hearse on August 30, 2012, 10:28:23 PM
  We'll then the answer is to move to Universal Studios Hollywood, where they have shark attacks on every tour tram. :P

lol!

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 30, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
Seems like most of them are around of the east coast for the most part although there are a few exceptions.

That has always been the case with classic 1960s Monster Toys. The vast majority "pops" in that belt from NY-NJ-PA, East Coast, etc., and that surrounding area. The same place where it was made. Certain items have only popped up in that area.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 31, 2012, 03:57:09 PM

That has always been the case with classic 1960s Monster Toys. The vast majority "pops" in that belt from NY-NJ-PA, East Coast, etc., and that surrounding area. The same place where it was made. Certain items have only popped up in that area.

ya it's kinda a bummer. I've seen several cases where people in that area have found multiple buckets. Although things are just weird sometimes. I've been collecting blow mold halloween items ever since i was a kid with my mom and i'm 32 now and just last year got a pirate jack o'lantern and never knew it existed before then. Not sure where it was made but one thing is for sure i've never seen another in kansas. So who knows what may linger my way.  Where there's a will there's a way i guess. Also thanks for sharing the photos Bob. I always appreciate you knowledge.  :)

Horror-

The buckets were found in small quantity in the late 80s/early 90s...I forget exactly. I bought several when they first popped and resold them in Toy Shop and at shows. And they came out of the "Monster Belt" of the USA.

Again, though, if you want one, get one as soon as you can. They will only keep going up in price, as too many people want them. The bucket head, like the speaker head, is a true classic.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 31, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
Horror-

The buckets were found in small quantity in the late 80s/early 90s...I forget exactly. I bought several when they first popped and resold them in Toy Shop and at shows. And they came out of the "Monster Belt" of the USA.

Again, though, if you want one, get one as soon as you can. They will only keep going up in price, as too many people want them. The bucket head, like the speaker head, is a true classic.

It's on the top of my list. Hopefully with in a year i'll have one. I know they are rare what i'm wondering is the estimated number of production hundreds/thousands/ ten-thousands/ hundred thousand. Even if it was a highly produced item i'm not sure how many survived 50 years of children.lol!

I don't think there were many produced- I certainly never saw them as a kid. The fact that they always pop up in the East says something, but the same is true with the bulk of vintage goodness.

Keep in mind, by today's standards and production numbers, the number made of  all this stuff was  minuscule.

Quote from: Monster Bob on September 01, 2012, 05:16:34 AM
I don't think there were many produced- I certainly never saw them as a kid. The fact that they always pop up in the East says something, but the same is true with the bulk of vintage goodness.

Keep in mind, by today's standards and production numbers, the number made of  all this stuff was  minuscule.

That's true. I think counting the pics of the internet and fellow UMA members I've seen 10 buckets give or take and 2 lights. Also i had a thought the other day about the hole variation the other day. maybe all the buckets were made solid so they could be a light if need be and it was up to the workers to cut the hole. That could explain a lot if thats true? Just a thought, Here's a pic of the light i mentioned seeing on the net.

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/fear-the-reaper/2860083303_ae78d4d1d7_z.jpg)

Yes. They would have all been produced solid and the hole cut on the line. Same with the speaker. They were obviously hand cut and handpainted, which explains all the variations. I am sure they used whatever paint was around and cheapest. I would guess there are probably fifty of these buckets that exist in collections. I know I have owned 10-15 of them over the years.

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 31, 2012, 03:57:09 PM

That has always been the case with classic 1960s Monster Toys. The vast majority "pops" in that belt from NY-NJ-PA, East Coast, etc., and that surrounding area. The same place where it was made. Certain items have only popped up in that area.

Always wondered about that, seems like I never have seen many of these goodies out here [cali]. That light is great!

The Frankenstein Light pictured is mine.  (So is the crumby picture, sorry.)  It was obviously made from a different mold, as the hair completely covers the top of the head.  The base is not a separate piece.  It was all molded just as seen.

The Frankenstein Buckets had a large circle on top where no hair was present.  That was the cut line.  I assume that the buckets were all hand cut after molding the head.  If a worker did a sloppy job or had his knife slip, he could even it all out by just cutting the hole a little bigger all the way around.  That could account for bucket hole size variance.

The Frankenstein Speaker Head had a much smaller hole to accomodate the little speaker.  The central area where the hair stops is correspondingly smaller.

It looks to me like the three models were made with three distinctly different molds.

I'd like to know what became of the original molds.

I am wondering if the lamp-with-base was a last ditch effort to use a dying mold. Look how thick and sloppy the mold line is compared to the others.

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 31, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
It's on the top of my list. Hopefully with in a year i'll have one.

Within a year! I'll be satisfied if I can score my holy grails before earthlings land on Mars! From what I've read about this bucket, wishing and hoping won't get you the thing. You're going to have to be more flexible in your methods.

:o

Horror101 you can save a mere $26 every two weeks and this time next year you will have $700 to put towards your very own bucket. Use your pirate pumpkin bucket as your bank!

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on September 01, 2012, 08:09:44 AM
The Frankenstein Light pictured is mine.  (So is the crumby picture, sorry.)  It was obviously made from a different mold, as the hair completely covers the top of the head.  The base is not a separate piece.  It was all molded just as seen.

The Frankenstein Buckets had a large circle on top where no hair was present.  That was the cut line.  I assume that the buckets were all hand cut after molding the head.  If a worker did a sloppy job or had his knife slip, he could even it all out by just cutting the hole a little bigger all the way around.  That could account for bucket hole size variance.

The Frankenstein Speaker Head had a much smaller hole to accomodate the little speaker.  The central area where the hair stops is correspondingly smaller.

It looks to me like the three models were made with three distinctly different molds.

I'd like to know what became of the original molds.

That's a cool light to have man. Do you live in the east coast or get it from there?

Quote from: Monster Bob on September 01, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
I am wondering if the lamp-with-base was a last ditch effort to use a dying mold. Look how thick and sloppy the mold line is compared to the others.

That's a good thought or maybe it came years later.

Quote from: Hepcat on September 01, 2012, 09:19:18 AM
Within a year! I'll be satisfied if I can score my holy grails before earthlings land on Mars! From what I've read about this bucket, wishing and hoping won't get you the thing. You're going to have to be more flexible in your methods.

:o

Hey I said hopefully.lol! ;)

Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 01, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
Horror101 you can save a mere $26 every two weeks and this time next year you will have $700 to put towards your very own bucket. Use your pirate pumpkin bucket as your bank!

That's a great idea man.

Where did you post the pic of the lamp?
Eric

Quote from: ilikemonsters on September 01, 2012, 06:15:02 PM
Where did you post the pic of the lamp?
Eric

This is the lamp.
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/fear-the-reaper/2860083303_ae78d4d1d7_z.jpg)

sweet! does it have the electrical inside, if so is the switch on the cord?

Isn't there is also another style of lamp which doesn't have the pedestal?

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 01, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
Isn't there is also another style of lamp which doesn't have the pedestal?

ya look one or 2 pages back and you can see Monster Bob's fine example.

Doy! I had just looked at that yesterday. Thanks.

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 01, 2012, 08:16:53 PM
Doy! I had just looked at that yesterday. Thanks.

any time.  ;)

Doy...HaHa...hadn't heard that in a while! I always think like H101 when I go to a show or flea market....seldom works , but every once in a while...BAM

Quote from: jimm on September 01, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
Doy...HaHa...hadn't heard that in a while! I always think like H101 when I go to a show or flea market....seldom works , but every once in a while...BAM

it can happen man. I've had it happen a few times.

It's interesting about the "cut" on the tops of these head buckets. And the light/color variations. A very informative thread  :)
Here is a pic of my example , top and front/side, just to add to the discussion and viewing

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/IMG_7844.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/IMG_7845.jpg)

Quote from: Richard on September 02, 2012, 11:06:56 PM
It's interesting about the "cut" on the tops of these head buckets. And the light/color variations. A very informative thread  :)
Here is a pic of my example , top and front/side, just to add to the discussion and viewing

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/IMG_7844.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/IMG_7845.jpg)

he looks like a odd color. Looks closer to the pink Monster Bob showed us or is it just the camera?

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 03, 2012, 12:15:24 AM
he looks like a odd color. Looks closer to the pink Monster Bob showed us or is it just the camera?

Might be the camera and the poor photographer (me). It's orange with green splashed on, I think

Quote from: Richard on September 02, 2012, 11:06:56 PM
It's interesting about the "cut" on the tops of these head buckets. And the light/color variations. A very informative thread  :)
Here is a pic of my example , top and front/side, just to add to the discussion and viewing

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/IMG_7844.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/mnroo/IMG_7845.jpg)

very cool. Where did you find yours? Or what state do you think it came from? I'm doing research.lol!

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 03, 2012, 12:29:46 AM
very cool. Where did you find yours? Or what state do you think it came from? I'm doing research.lol!

Somewhere on east coast. I believe.

Growing up in northern Minnesota, I just can't remember seeing these things at the time. And I DID trick n' treat! Seems that everyone used pillow cases as you could stay out a long time to get lots of candy(that's what I used). My best friend didn't have one; I didn't,~ and between us, I think we had everything that hit the stores. These buckets must have been sold in Duluth stores but I don't remember them.

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 12:41:02 AM
Somewhere on east coast. I believe.

Growing up in northern Minnesota, I just can't remember seeing these things at the time. And I DID trick n' treat! Seems that everyone used pillow cases as you could stay out a long time to get lots of candy(that's what I used). My best friend didn't have one; I didn't,~ and between us, I think we had everything that hit the stores. These buckets must have been sold in Duluth stores but I don't remember them.

They did sell the wallets in MN, though...I got my "kid" one, a Dracula/Mummy, on vacation in Bemidji, with my Grandparents.

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 12:41:02 AM
Somewhere on east coast. I believe.

Growing up in northern Minnesota, I just can't remember seeing these things at the time. And I DID trick n' treat! Seems that everyone used pillow cases as you could stay out a long time to get lots of candy(that's what I used). My best friend didn't have one; I didn't,~ and between us, I think we had everything that hit the stores. These buckets must have been sold in Duluth stores but I don't remember them.

Thanks for the info man. Definately looks like the east cost is the place to find these. I wonder if they made it as far as Maine? I have a buddy that lives in those neck of the woods. Not saying he will find one but it helps to have extra eyes.  :D

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 03, 2012, 07:53:27 AM
Thanks for the info man. Definately looks like the east cost is the place to find these. I wonder if they made it as far as Maine? I have a buddy that lives in those neck of the woods. Not saying he will find one but it helps to have extra eyes.  :D

Wish I had better info for you. I DO hope you can find one at some point because I think you really appreciate the item. That's what it's all about~ not value but enjoyment.

Quote from: Monster Bob on September 03, 2012, 05:09:36 AM
They did sell the wallets in MN, though...I got my "kid" one, a Dracula/Mummy, on vacation in Bemidji, with my Grandparents.

Bob, GREAT comment about the wallets being in Northern Minnesota! Plaques and wallets were seen everywhere here, unlike the head bucket. Four of my plaques are Minnesota 60s purchased for sure (1 in Duluth, 1 in Superior Wisconsin, the other two either Duluth or Minneapolis. The wallets were everywhere.

Btw, my "original" Marx battery op Frankenstein (and my childhood best friend Bob's) both came from the same stack in the summer of 1963~ Twin Ports merchandisers which was located in the canal park area of Duluth. The guys that owned the place had at least 20 of them mint in box on an end cap. My dad bought two of them~ one for Bobby's mother to "gift" him and one for a gift for me(I received mine July 6, 1963). They were retailers/wholesalers I believe because my dad bought multiple stuff to sell at his gas station at times. They gave good deals.

Wow, what an amazing memory! I got my Marx Frankenstein Christmas '63. Still my all-time favorite toy.

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 12:41:02 AM

Seems that everyone used pillow cases as you could stay out a long time to get lots of candy(that's what I used).

Damn skippy!  I considered Halloween one of my hardest working days of the year as a kid.  We lived on air-bases growing up and literally sprinted from unit to unit.  All the base "housing" folks had kids, so he base was packed, I mean packed with us little goomers running from door to door on Halloween.  No way in the world would I ever have considered taking a bucket like the Frankie. Just not practical as the pillow case was the tool of choice.  And even with that, we had to dump and run at least once during the night, so we made sure we knew where to be close to home base by the time our sack filled up the first time.

Quote from: ilikemonsters on September 01, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
sweet! does it have the electrical inside, if so is the switch on the cord?

It has a small hole in the back to insert a standard C5 bulb holder.  It came minus the bulb/cord.

Don't remember where the seller was, but It was purchased off of eBay.

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 12:41:02 AMAnd I DID trick n' treat! Seems that everyone used pillow cases as you could stay out a long time to get lots of candy(that's what I used).

Yes, pillow cases! That's what it's all about! When was the last time you saw kids come to the door with pillow cases? They have these wimpy little buckets (and some geeky looking adults standing somewhere on the walk). I'm the one who has to tell them "Pillow cases, kid, pillow cases! If you want to maximize your haul tonight you need a pillow case."

It kind of makes me wonder about Horror1o1 here. I mean doesn't he know anything about trick or treating?

:-\

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 10:02:31 AM
Wish I had better info for you. I DO hope you can find one at some point because I think you really appreciate the item. That's what it's all about~ not value but enjoyment.

Thanks man. It's funny you mentioned that when i first discovered this item i had no idea of it's value and when i started searching i quickly found out otherwise. I original thought the item might cost me in the $20 dollar range. I was very innocent.

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 10:18:55 AM
Bob, GREAT comment about the wallets being in Northern Minnesota! Plaques and wallets were seen everywhere here, unlike the head bucket. Four of my plaques are Minnesota 60s purchased for sure (1 in Duluth, 1 in Superior Wisconsin, the other two either Duluth or Minneapolis. The wallets were everywhere.

Btw, my "original" Marx battery op Frankenstein (and my childhood best friend Bob's) both came from the same stack in the summer of 1963~ Twin Ports merchandisers which was located in the canal park area of Duluth. The guys that owned the place had at least 20 of them mint in box on an end cap. My dad bought two of them~ one for Bobby's mother to "gift" him and one for a gift for me(I received mine July 6, 1963). They were retailers/wholesalers I believe because my dad bought multiple stuff to sell at his gas station at times. They gave good deals.

This is a great monster memory and is also another favorite of mine.

Quote from: Hepcat on September 03, 2012, 03:15:59 PM
Yes, pillow cases! That's what it's all about! When was the last time you saw kids come to the door with pillowcases? They have these wimpy little buckets (and some geeky looking adults standing somewhere on the walk). I'm the one who has to tell them "Pillowcases, kid, pillowcases! If you want to maximize your haul tonight you need a pillowcase."

It kind of makes me wonder about Horror1o1 here. I mean doesn't he know anything about trick or treating?

:-\

Hep I actually used a bag my mom made me most of the time and i think it had a halloween print on it of bats and skeletons and other halloween creepys. If memory serves me right it was bigger than a pillow case. I do think there was a few years when i was younger i had a candy bucket and maybe some of those free plastic halloween bags. But believe me i always came home with a huge haul and there was more than enough for mom and dad too.lol!

Quote from: Hepcat on September 03, 2012, 03:15:59 PM
Yes, pillow cases! That's what it's all about! When was the last time you saw kids come to the door with pillowcases? They have these wimpy little buckets (and some geeky looking adults standing somewhere on the walk). I'm the one who has to tell them "Pillowcases, kid, pillowcases! If you want to maximize your haul tonight you need a pillowcase."

It kind of makes me wonder about Horror1o1 here. I mean doesn't he know anything about trick or treating?

:-\

So true about the pillowcases, Hepcat! And we decorated ours just a bit. In the 60s, there was a product called Tri-Chem liquid that came in large tubes with roller ball tips. A friend's mother sold it (kind of like Amway, maybe??). Anyhow, we could draw and color with it and add a Dracula or bat or spider web to the white pillowcase. I wish I would've kept my "artwork" pillowcase :(

Horror101 will find his GS head bucket someday and will be all set to trick 'n treat in style :)

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
So true about the pillowcases, Hepcat! And we decorated ours just a bit. In the 60s, there was a product called Tri-Chem liquid that came in large tubes with roller ball tips. A friend's mother sold it (kind of like Amway, maybe??). Anyhow, we could draw and color with it and add a Dracula or bat or spider web to the white pillowcase. I wish I would've kept my "artwork" pillowcase :(

Horror101 will find his GS head bucket someday and will be all set to trick 'n treat in style :)

Don't feel bad Richard I have no idea where my old bag is and I'm kinda sad about that. =( When I do get my Glenn Strange bucket I might have to go trick or treating with it or at least put some nice treats in it when i pass out candy to the kids.  ;)

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 03, 2012, 06:34:19 PM
=( When I do get my Glenn Strange bucket I might have to go trick or treating with it or at least put some nice treats in it when i pass out candy to the kids.  ;)

I like that :) you deserve to find a GS bucket head someday

Quote from: Richard on September 03, 2012, 07:18:35 PM
I like that :) you deserve to find a GS bucket head someday

Thanks man. I appreciate the kind words. Halloween is a big deal for me. Last year I went to Moms and we passed out little Halloween bags that had comic cards,vampire teeth and candy in them. The kids loved them! Me and Mom were dressed up. I had a Phantom mask on {just something Quick} and Mom was dressed as a gypsy. We gave the treats out in a vintage bucket as well.  :D


(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/fear-the-reaper/1031112023.jpg)

Quote from: Bogey on September 03, 2012, 01:21:55 PMI considered Halloween one of my hardest working days of the year as a kid.  We lived on air-bases growing up and literally sprinted from unit to unit.  All the base "housing" folks had kids, so he base was packed, I mean packed with us little goomers running from door to door on Halloween.  No way in the world would I ever have considered taking a bucket like the Frankie. Just not practical as the pillow case was the tool of choice.  And even with that, we had to dump and run at least once during the night, so we made sure we knew where to be close to home base by the time our sack filled up the first time.

That's the spirit! You gotta maximize your haul!

We lived on the very edge of town when I was a little kid. A junkyard and woods all around us. As a result, I never encountered any trick or treaters prior to first grade. When I was first told about Halloween as a five year old by my parents and older sister, I didn't believe them because it sounded too good to be true. I thought they were pulling my leg and that it was all an outrageous lie.

:o

Quote from: Hepcat on September 03, 2012, 09:45:55 PM

...We lived on the very edge of town when I was a little kid. A junkyard and woods all around us. As a result, I never encountered any trick or treaters prior to first grade. When I was first told about Halloween as a five year old by my parents and older sister, I didn't believe them because it sounded too good to be true. I thought they were pulling my leg and that it was all an outrageous lie.
:o

Yeah, but you had the woods AND a junkyard all around you - Little kid heaven!

(http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/uploads/8/3/0/3/8303266/1685528_orig.jpg)Hey guys,

I saw my picture of my Sideshow Frankenstein bucket from my website on your post (along with my Ka-Bala game). I was very excited to add this one to my collection, as I'm building a very nice little collection of vintage  Halloween buckets (although I still don't have the Clint Toys Frankenstein...some day).

By the way, I'm new to the Universal Monster Army....How do I post a picture on my posts, and can I reply to someone's post directly (instead of cycling down to the bottom)? ....Just watched the tutorial on YouTube. I think I got the post image thing down.

Thanks, Tim Malik (Vintage Halloween Toys).

http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/1/post/2012/05/frankenstein-halloween-pail-added-to-my-collection.html (http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/1/post/2012/05/frankenstein-halloween-pail-added-to-my-collection.html)

Just to clarify this again...this is a Clinton Plastics toy. Apparently the "Clint Toys" thing was their um...toy division, probably used in the mold just to identify or hallmark it.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on September 03, 2012, 09:49:38 PM
Yeah, but you had the woods AND a junkyard all around you - Little kid heaven!

Plus these additional features:

1.  A rooster which used to terrorize me when I was a toddler. The neighbourhood delinquents killed it with a slingshot sometime before I reached kindergarten.

2.  A creek behind the house which my father dammed up one summer to form a swimming hole!

3. A backyard skating rink built by my father in the winter.

4. Bodies of old Ford Coupes from the thirties in the yard of Mr. Gayle's house two doors down at the end of the street. He and his older boys raced stock cars at Delaware and Nilestown Speedways and he had a machine shop/garage out back.

5. An overgrown pit in the lot beside ours that an old man by the name of George had dug to serve as the foundation for a house he'd never built. He probably could not afford the building materials. George lived in a tarpaper shack with his beagle Rex behind the pit. He had a guitar and a banjo although he never played his banjo because Rex would howl. He also ate fried eggs with ketchup, which I found to be very exotic since we never had ketchup in the house. I knew this because I popped in to visit Rex and George whenever I was bored. I mean why not? Parents these days would be horrified I'm sure.

My parents seemed to actually be protective of old George. My mother learned he was going to get married. Well he had no bathtub, and he certainly needed a bath before getting married, right? So she took him by the cuff and marched him into our bathroom and gave him a much needed bath. And no nonsense from you! You make sure you're good and clean for the ceremony!

And his lovely bride? She eventually proved to be a source of embarassment for me. I was five and had been enrolled in the neighbourhood kindergarten. It was about six blocks or nearly a half a mile away. I was taken there the first day or two and after that I was just sent there by my parents. So one day I impishly told my mother I wasn't going to go to school that day. Well George's wife just so happened to be going in that direction that day. So I was turned over to her to make sure I went to school. I was absolutely mortified! What if anyone saw that such a big boy as myself needed an old lady to lead him to school? Oh the shame....

8)

It all sounds wonderful!

What great memories - Thanks so much for sharing.

Quote from: Hepcat on September 04, 2012, 11:42:55 AM
Plus these additional features:

1.  A rooster which used to terrorize me when I was a toddler. The neighbourhood delinquents killed it with a slingshot sometime before I reached kindergarten.

2.  A creek behind the house which my father dammed up one summer to form a swimming hole!

3. A backyard skating rink built by my father in the winter.

4. Bodies of old Ford Coupes from the thirties in the yard of Mr. Gayle's house two doors down at the end of the street. He and his older boys raced stock cars at Delaware and Nilestown Speedways and he had a machine shop/garage out back.

5. An overgrown pit in the lot beside ours that an old man by the name of George had dug to serve as the foundation for a house he'd never built. He probably could not afford the building materials. George lived in a tarpaper shack with his beagle Rex behind the pit. He had a guitar and a banjo although he never played his banjo because Rex would howl. He also ate fried eggs with ketchup, which I found to be very exotic since we never had ketchup in the house. I knew this because I popped in to visit Rex and George whenever I was bored. I mean why not? Parents these days would be horrified I'm sure.

My parents seemed to actually be protective of old George. My mother learned he was going to get married. Well he had no bathtub, and he certainly needed a bath before getting married, right? So she took him by the cuff and marched him into our bathroom and gave him a much needed bath. And no nonsense from you! You make sure you're good and clean for the ceremony!

And his lovely bride? She eventually proved to be a source of embarassment for me. I was five and had been enrolled in the neighbourhood kindergarten. It was about six blocks or nearly a half a mile away. I was taken there the first day or two and after that I was just sent there by my parents. So one day I impishly told my mother I wasn't going to go to school that day. Well George's wife just so happened to be going in that direction that day. So I was turned over to her to make sure I went to school. I was absolutely mortified! What if anyone saw that such a big boy as myself needed an old lady to lead him to school? Oh the shame....

8)

sounds like good times.

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 03, 2012, 06:15:36 PMI actually used a bag my mom made me most of the time and i think it had a halloween print on it of bats and skeletons and other halloween creepys. If memory serves me right it was bigger than a pillow case.

Now that's what we want to see! Either that or whatever you're going to use to trick or treat this year. Technology keeps advancing and I don't want to be left behind.

;)

When I was a child in Los Angeles, if I remember you had blow mold Jack O Lanterns and skulls for trick or treating.  But I can't remember the Frankenstein bucket.

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 04, 2012, 10:15:52 AM
(http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/uploads/8/3/0/3/8303266/1685528_orig.jpg)Hey guys,

I saw my picture of my Sideshow Frankenstein bucket from my website on your post (along with my Ka-Bala game). I was very excited to add this one to my collection, as I'm building a very nice little collection of vintage  Halloween buckets (although I still don't have the Clint Toys Frankenstein...some day).

By the way, I'm new to the Universal Monster Army....How do I post a picture on my posts, and can I reply to someone's post directly (instead of cycling down to the bottom)? ....Just watched the tutorial on YouTube. I think I got the post image thing down.

Thanks, Tim Malik (Vintage Halloween Toys).

http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/1/post/2012/05/frankenstein-halloween-pail-added-to-my-collection.html (http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/1/post/2012/05/frankenstein-halloween-pail-added-to-my-collection.html)

Welcome Tim!! Yes, you can reply directly to a poster by hitting the "quote" tag to the right of their post, or through PMs. Jump right in brother!

Thanks Scatter! I think I'm getting the hang of this now.

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 07, 2012, 10:44:31 PM
Thanks Scatter! I think I'm getting the hang of this now.

Since you're new you probably don't realise that Scatter bills you a $5 service charge for any assistance rendered. He'll PM you for your credit card number in the next few days.

Quote from: Mord on September 08, 2012, 01:56:02 PM
Since you're new you probably don't realise that Scatter bills you a $5 service charge for any assistance rendered. He'll PM you for your credit card number in the next few days.

I was wondering what that charge was on my card....

Quote from: Bogey on September 08, 2012, 06:19:59 PM
I was wondering what that charge was on my card....

lol!

Was there a white or glow version of the Glenm Strange bucket?

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 08, 2012, 07:43:06 PM
Was there a white or glow version of the Glenm Strange bucket?

not that i'm aware of. But Monster Bob would know for sure.

Not to my knowledge. Orange and pink plastic are the only colors I have seen, though the paint comes in many colors and variations.

it is screaming to be glow n the dark though.lol!

In regards to the "glow version"....I may have a picture of it. At some point when I was looking through the UMA site, I stumbled across someones collections or finds, and they had what looked like a glow in the dark version of the Clint Toys Glenn Stange Candy Bucket.

I saved a picture of it, but don't have who's post or collection it was from. It might be a faded speaker, but it looks like a candy bucket. Is it appropriate for me to post this? I'm not trying to take credit for the photo, but seeing as you don't see variants of that bucket very often, I wanted to keep a pic of it in my research files.

An even scarcer variant of Horror1o1's most wanted item? You absolutely, positively must post it here. He'll hyperventilate when he see it.

;)

Quote from: Hepcat on September 11, 2012, 06:02:08 PM
An even scarcer variant of Horror1o1's most wanted item? You absolutely, positively must post it here. He'll hyperventilate when he see it.

;)

You know me well.  ;)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GC2eGo8UldY/UE_lmhGskVI/AAAAAAAAA50/NigncxCHVKg/s787/glow+frankenstein.jpg)

It would be the one on the left...please excuse my ignorance if that's just a Glenn Strange Speaker (as if that's a bad thing) that is faded, but I've seen a lot of those, and this one looks like a glow version of the candy bucket.

Thoughts?

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GC2eGo8UldY/UE_lmhGskVI/AAAAAAAAA50/NigncxCHVKg/s787/glow+frankenstein.jpg)

It would be the one on the left...please excuse my ignorance if that's just a Glenn Strange Speaker (as if that's a bad thing) that is faded, but I've seen a lot of those, and this one looks like a glow version of the candy bucket.

Thoughts?

I think what it possibly could be is a really faded candy bucket. I've seen a few blowmolds get that color before. Just a guess though.

It is cool looking if it's just faded...but if it that is a glow version, that's super cool.

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 11, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
It is cool looking if it's just faded...but if it that is a glow version, that's super cool.

It would be cool if it was glow but i'm afraid it's just faded. look closely you can see orange on the white parts. but hey one can hope.  :D

That's sun-fading.

Must be a Speaker Head.  The hole in top is too small for a bucket.  And the hair continues too far toward the middle.

Could also be a baseless Light, if the hair goes all the way to the center.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on September 11, 2012, 09:17:50 PM
Must be a Speaker Head.  The hole in top is too small for a bucket.  And the hair continues too far toward the middle.

Could also be a baseless Light, if the hair goes all the way to the center.

I'll guess light by the way the bowl is sitting on it also I rarely see blow mold buckets sun faded but lots of lights sun faded. But just another guess.lol!

It is a faded light and it was produced with no base.

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 12, 2012, 03:36:05 AM
It is a faded light and it was produced with no base.

Still pretty neat

I agree H101, I kinda like the personality on that one myself. i think it would fit in my collection perfectly!

I'll take it! May be the only one faded in existence...

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GC2eGo8UldY/UE_lmhGskVI/AAAAAAAAA50/NigncxCHVKg/s787/glow+frankenstein.jpg)

I'm curious as to what the Godzilla looking thing in the upper left is? Looks like it says "dirtbuster"?? Anyone know?

Quote from: darkmonkeygod on September 12, 2012, 03:36:05 AM
It is a faded light and it was produced with no base.

I'd be tempted to place it in a window, in an attempt to fade it out completely - it would look cool in solid white.

Quote from: lovemymonsters on September 12, 2012, 12:53:22 PM
I'm curious as to what the Godzilla looking thing in the upper left is? Looks like it says "dirtbuster"?? Anyone know?

A non licensed Godzilla toothbrush holder.

How could it be licensed? As if Godzilla would ever consent to brush his teeth.

:o

Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 12, 2012, 06:26:04 AM
I agree H101, I kinda like the personality on that one myself. i think it would fit in my collection perfectly!

yup it would work well in mine as well.

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GC2eGo8UldY/UE_lmhGskVI/AAAAAAAAA50/NigncxCHVKg/s787/glow+frankenstein.jpg)

It would be the one on the left...please excuse my ignorance if that's just a Glenn Strange Speaker (as if that's a bad thing) that is faded, but I've seen a lot of those, and this one looks like a glow version of the candy bucket.

Thoughts?

I think that FRANKENBUCKET has been faded and transformed by primordial forces... y'know, like sun and rain.  It's way cool.  Does it have the buckethole at the top?  Evidence of handles?  There was a light, too, which I guess is super scarce.
I had had a third FRANKENBUCKET which had a big WART where the bridge of his nose meets forehead.  That must have been the point where the plastic was injected into the mold.  That example had nearly perfect dark green paint; it was almost in blackface and hot pink! 

Quote from: Allhallowsday on September 13, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
I think that FRANKENBUCKET has been faded and transformed by primordial forces... y'know, like sun and rain.  It's way cool.  Does it have the buckethole at the top?  Evidence of handles?  There was a light, too, which I guess is super scarce.
I had had a third FRANKENBUCKET which had a big WART where the bridge of his nose meets forehead.  That must have been the point where the plastic was injected into the mold.  That example had nearly perfect dark green paint; it was almost in blackface and hot pink!

got any pics of that bad boy?

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 13, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
got any pics of that bad boy?

I wish.  No, I sold that a long time ago. 

Quote from: Allhallowsday on September 13, 2012, 10:18:19 PM
I wish.  No, I sold that a long time ago.

damn the luck.

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 13, 2012, 11:45:37 PM
damn the luck.

zackly

Quote from: Allhallowsday on September 13, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
zackly

Maybe it will turn up again some day?

This thread is like the Universal Frankenstein Monster...it just doesn't die.

I have the solution. Send Horror1o1 your Glenn Strange Candy Bucket and his quest will then be at an end.

:)

Quote from: Hepcat on September 14, 2012, 09:51:26 AM
I have the solution. Send Horror1o1 your Glenn Strange Candy Bucket and his quest will then be at an end.

:)

Ya that would about do it.lol!  ;)

Here's one currently on ebay...so far it's only at $129

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Universal-Monsters-Frankenstien-Halloween-Candy-Bucket-/271061165322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1c81250a (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Universal-Monsters-Frankenstien-Halloween-Candy-Bucket-/271061165322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1c81250a)

I wish current ebay auctions would stop getting posted on here at least until the auction is over.  :-\ Unless its yours of course and posted in classifieds.

Quote from: Monster Bob on September 14, 2012, 09:47:49 AM

This thread is like the Universal Frankenstein Monster...it just doesn't die.

My sentiments exactly.

It probably won't until we all have a bucket...it may be a while......

Quote from: jimm on September 16, 2012, 11:54:55 PM
It probably won't until we all have a bucket...it may be a while......

That's right! i want to see a bucket in every monster household.! lol!

Quote from: jimm on September 16, 2012, 11:54:55 PM
It probably won't until we all have a bucket...it may be a while......

Or until we all kick the bucket.

Quote from: Scary Terry on September 17, 2012, 09:35:48 AM
Or until we all kick the bucket.

I think that will be the one to happen first...

Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 16, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
I wish current ebay auctions would stop getting posted on here at least until the auction is over.  :-\ Unless its yours of course and posted in classifieds.

With 5 days to go, it won't stay at $129. Even if somebody didn't post that link, I have no doubt the bidding will skyrocket in the minutes before the auction ends.   Posting that link at least means a greater chance that one of the members here, who is willing to spend the hundreds I have no doubt it will go for, will be able to add it to their collection.

Wouldn't be a great idea to raffle one off for charity? If there was a well to do collector among us who would be willing to donate one, I bet the good folks at the UMA would bring some serious green for a good cause (not to mention make one of us monster collectors VERY HAPPY). You could raffle tickets for $5 or $10, and maybe have a limited number available (say 100-500 tickets). Just a thought....

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 18, 2012, 12:47:02 PM
Wouldn't be a great idea to raffle one off for charity? If there was a well to collector among us who would be willing to donate one, I bet the good folks at the UMA would bring some serious green for a good cause (not to mention make one of us monster collectors VERY HAPPY). You could raffle tickets for $5 or $10, and maybe have a limited number available (say 100-500 tickets). Just a thought....

I second the motion. Any well to do monster fans out there willing to donate for a good cause... celebrity status among his monster brothers and sisters and undying devotion and thanks from the lucky winner? Or personal slave for life if Horror101 wins.  ;D

Quote from: Haunted hearse on September 18, 2012, 10:04:56 AM
With 5 days to go, it won't stay at $129. Even if somebody didn't post that link, I have no doubt the bidding will skyrocket in the minutes before the auction ends.   Posting that link at least means a greater chance that one of the members here, who is willing to spend the hundreds I have no doubt it will go for, will be able to add it to their collection.

no doubt it will bring more than the $129. But there are 5,000 people in this place alone and countless Lurkers. It tends to hype items up to ridiculous prices when they are posted in threads like this one. I spend a lot of time searching on ebay for items, it pays off at times. I have bought things that i never could have owned because it went under the radar of this place.  this is not a new issue here at the uma, there are many threads with people debating whether or not we should post random auctions we find," just trying to help". I for one do not agree with it. Unless it is your auction, or a close friends, and posted properly in the classifieds. Or an auction that has an item that is a fake or people need warned about so they dont get screwed. Or if its already over and we want to discuss it. All of us here have a computer and access to ebay, but not everyone has the time to look. Which gives the ones who do a bit of an advantage. all i ask is let everyone do their own legwork. Or if you know someone here who wants an item send them a link through a p.m.

Well said.
Eric

Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 18, 2012, 02:14:26 PM
no doubt it will bring more than the $129. But there are 5,000 people in this place alone and countless Lurkers. It tends to hype items up to ridiculous prices when they are posted in threads like this one. I spend a lot of time searching on ebay for items, it pays off at times. I have bought things that i never could have owned because it went under the radar of this place.  this is not a new issue here at the uma, there are many threads with people debating whether or not we should post random auctions we find," just trying to help". I for one do not agree with it. Unless it is your auction, or a close friends, and posted properly in the classifieds. Or an auction that has an item that is a fake or people need warned about so they dont get screwed. Or if its already over and we want to discuss it. All of us here have a computer and access to ebay, but not everyone has the time to look. Which gives the ones who do a bit of an advantage. all i ask is let everyone do their own legwork. Or if you know someone here who wants an item send them a link through a p.m.

I understand where your coming from. I posted about auctions before and was quickly told it wasn't a good idea and i realized why. i do appreciate a pm if someone sees something they know i want which i have gotten a few from some very nice chaps.  :)

Has anyone mentioned that the strap seems to be replaced on this one?

Quote from: ilikemonsters on September 20, 2012, 01:47:56 AM
Has anyone mentioned that the strap seems to be replaced on this one?

ya it says so in buyers comments. looks like there could be extra holes under the strap also

Huh... I don't know how I missed that. Except I'm not sure 'rerivited' is a word.

Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 18, 2012, 02:14:26 PM
no doubt it will bring more than the $129. But there are 5,000 people in this place alone and countless Lurkers. It tends to hype items up to ridiculous prices when they are posted in threads like this one. I spend a lot of time searching on ebay for items, it pays off at times. I have bought things that i never could have owned because it went under the radar of this place.  this is not a new issue here at the uma, there are many threads with people debating whether or not we should post random auctions we find," just trying to help". I for one do not agree with it. Unless it is your auction, or a close friends, and posted properly in the classifieds. Or an auction that has an item that is a fake or people need warned about so they dont get screwed. Or if its already over and we want to discuss it. All of us here have a computer and access to ebay, but not everyone has the time to look. Which gives the ones who do a bit of an advantage. all i ask is let everyone do their own legwork. Or if you know someone here who wants an item send them a link through a p.m.

Build my gallows high...I was trying to help to get this item in the hands of one of the many members here who want one

What kind of rope do you want?

Quote from: lblambert on September 20, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
Build my gallows high...I was trying to help to get this item in the hands of one of the many members here who want one

I felt that was what your motives were, and I apprciate people in this forum thinking of the other members.  I also realize it really sucks, when you already know of an item, and then having a link to the auction posted, because that will drive the price up.  But even if the link hadn't been posted, that item wasn't going cheap.  This one may go for somewhat less, because things like a replacement strap would be a turnoff to some of the more hardcore collectors.

[admin]Just wanted to be clear about something. Many members are not in favor of posting auction links on the UMA until after the auction is closed, or if it is a high profile listing (listed properly with correct keywords and category, and usually with a high BIN price or opening bid), and it is a subject of much discussion here, but it is NOT against the rules of this forum to post auction links, whether they are yours, or are unaffiliated. [/admin]

I came i saw and i lost.lol!

I came in 3rd yet again!

Quote from: ilikemonsters on September 24, 2012, 12:57:12 AM
I came in 3rd yet again!

there will be others

That last bucket auction had frankenstein spelled frankenstien so most keyword searches would not have shown up.  So between the posting of the auction here and the people who saw it in its listed category is where the bids came from. Which was- collectibles>science fiction & horror>other. I personally think this bucket is just getting alot of attention right now and will settle back down after halloween. I cant count how many times nicer ones than the last one sold and brought around $300 to $400. Guess i should have bought mine back then.  Hindsight... although if a person wanted to upgrade and had a rough bucket, or one missing a handle etc.. now would be the time to sell it. And in a few months you could buy a nice minty one then for the same price you got out of your rough bucket now. id be tempted if it were me.

Very good point, I agree, and I'm probably one of those fools who gets caught up in the frenzy.
But, clearly I'm a little more timid than the 2 bidders above me.

Yes, but you helped make the winner pay up for it! That may not be such a good thing though....

:-\

Say whut, I bid what I was willing to pay for it. What's your point?

You said you were a timid fool. I disagreed on the basis that you had nonetheless accomplished something meaning you weren't so timid or foolish after all.

It ended up selling for $455, and I'll bet if someone else had been willing to bid that price, you would find the winner was willing to pay over $500, so obviously he really wanted it.  I remember seeing the Universal Monster Chess set talked about on this site, found one on Ebay, and bid on it.  I lost.  So I waited, found another set listed, and actually paid less for it, then the one I lost out on.  I would have really have to be desperate for this bucket, if I'm willing to pay half a grand, for something (because of the replaced strap) that wiill reduce it's value to many high end collectors.  I have no doubt that another one, will show up in better condition, and might sell for less in time to come.

Yes, often times when the high bidder gets his, the price of an item drops dramatically because the fellow is no longer there to bid the price up.

:)

Quote from: Hepcat on September 24, 2012, 01:44:21 PM
Yes, often times when the high bidder gets his, the price of an item drops dramatically because the fellow is no longer there to bid the price up.

:)

Or if everyone sells their damaged ones like Frankenstein73 suggested, the next minty one is going to be the subject of an intense bidding war!  :D

Ya i just bid what i could bid. honestly with it's flaws i think it went for too high.

Quote from: Hepcat on September 24, 2012, 01:19:48 PM
You said you were a timid fool. I disagreed on the basis that you had nonetheless accomplished something meaning you weren't so timid or foolish after all.

Oh, I see what you mean, I guess I got a little defensive, I read it that I was unfairly bidding the winner up.
Glad you don't think I'm a timid fool. ;)

Quote from: Toy Ranch on September 24, 2012, 03:16:00 PM
Or if everyone sells their damaged ones like Frankenstein73 suggested, the next minty one is going to be the subject of an intense bidding war!  :D

Haha! yeah if everyone did that the next mint one would be a sight to behold.

Quote from: ilikemonsters on September 24, 2012, 05:11:22 PM
...I read it that I was unfairly bidding the winner up.

There's nothing unfair about bidding the price up for Horror1o1. The more he ends up paying the more he'll appreciate it. 

;)

Of coarse, of coarse.
Don't forget Miss Dead, wasn't she hot after the bucket too?
In fact I'm surprised she hasn't been posting on this thread.

Quote from: Hepcat on September 24, 2012, 07:35:41 PM
There's nothing unfair about bidding the price up for Horror1o1. The more he ends up paying the more he'll appreciate it. 

;)

lol! thanks Hepcat.

Quote from: ilikemonsters on September 24, 2012, 07:54:37 PM
Of coarse, of coarse.
Don't forget Miss Dead, wasn't she hot after the bucket too?
In fact I'm surprised she hasn't been posting on this thread.

Naw i think she has one.

Quote from: horror1o1 on September 24, 2012, 08:02:49 PM
Naw i think she has one.

Half a dozen by now methinks. It's where she keeps her marbles.

;)

I'm thinking of a goldfish bowl for that purpose myself.

:-\

Quote from: Hepcat on September 24, 2012, 08:27:46 PM
Half a dozen by now methinks. It's where she keeps her marbles.

;)

I'm thinking of a goldfish bowl for that purpose myself.

:-\

I would take half a dozen. One of every variation. lol! ;D

Quote from: vintagehalloweentoys on September 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GC2eGo8UldY/UE_lmhGskVI/AAAAAAAAA50/NigncxCHVKg/s787/glow+frankenstein.jpg)

It would be the one on the left...please excuse my ignorance if that's just a Glenn Strange Speaker (as if that's a bad thing) that is faded, but I've seen a lot of those, and this one looks like a glow version of the candy bucket.

Thoughts?

Here is another faded "glow' version.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/234291361_49f0a1acb0_o.jpg)

that looks like paint to me, possibly Glow In the Dark paint?!

Quote from: frankenstein73 on September 24, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
that looks like paint to me, possibly Glow In the Dark paint?!

I think some one modified theirs.

Wow, what a shelf of goodies!

Yeah, at first glance  his mouth seems different.

That bucket is Terry Ingram's. Yes, it has been repainted. As for the "glow" one in the earlier photo, it looks like an extreme example of fading. I own several orange blow-molded Halloween lanterns, and a couple are faded. The plastic becomes pale and translucent.

Quote from: raycastile on September 24, 2012, 10:36:07 PM
That bucket is Terry Ingram's. Yes, it has been repainted. As for the "glow" one in the earlier photo, it looks like an extreme example of fading. I own several orange blow-molded Halloween lanterns, and a couple are faded. The plastic becomes pale and translucent.

Ya me and my mom have a few like that too.

Quote from: raycastile on September 24, 2012, 10:36:07 PM
That bucket is Terry Ingram's. Yes, it has been repainted. As for the "glow" one in the earlier photo, it looks like an extreme example of fading. I own several orange blow-molded Halloween lanterns, and a couple are faded. The plastic becomes pale and translucent.

That's actually kind of cool.

Ya the glow is cool

What I want to know is where do I get one of those rubber skulls with the wings attached.

I was thinking if Frankie had that winged skull on his shoulder, instead of on his head, he'd be having a zippedy-doo-dah day.

I wonder if any of the posters here ever tried to paint theirs.

I wouldn't paint a $600 piece like the Glen Strange Bucket, but it might be cool to paint one of those Jack-O-lanterns (Like the ones that are now selling at Walmart) with Glow-in-the dark paint.

Quote from: raycastile on September 26, 2012, 09:45:40 PM
What I want to know is where do I get one of those rubber skulls with the wings attached.

I have one, but you can't have it!  It is a 90's item. Should not be too expensive or hard to find, but very cool.

Quote from: Haunted hearse on September 27, 2012, 11:35:49 AM
I wouldn't paint a $600 piece like the Glen Strange Bucket, but it might be cool to paint one of those Jack-O-lanterns (Like the ones that are now selling at Walmart) with Glow-in-the dark paint.

I wouldn't either but i have seen a a couple examples a while back where someone tryed to touch one up and it looked horrible. Probally a kid back in the day but still bad.

Another bucket just sold for $698.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-GLENN-STRANGE-1962-HEAD-RARE-/150922422724?ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:3160 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-HALLOWEEN-CANDY-BUCKET-GLENN-STRANGE-1962-HEAD-RARE-/150922422724?ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:3160)

I was talking to the seller about his 1962 date.  He informed me that it was his uncle's.  And that his mother bought it for him at a drug store in October of 1962 - for 59 cents!

Nice little turn around.

That seemed like a reasonable price for a bucket in that condition, it looked near mint condition. 

Quote from: Neoplastic on October 18, 2012, 08:03:37 PM
That seemed like a reasonable price for a bucket in that condition, it looked near mint condition.

Ya i was eyeballing it for a while but i think the price is right for it. Do think it could have gone cheaper if the bid war didn't start so early. i mean it was at $670 i believe for days and only went up $28 dollars.

Wow it came from an original owner!
Best one I've seen yet!
I noticed a bidder with a zero rating won it, well done new bidder!

That was one of the best buckets I've seen, if not the best. If I had not bought so much other junk in the last six weeks, I would have taken a serious stab at that bucket.

Quote from: raycastile on October 18, 2012, 10:49:47 PM
That was one of the best buckets I've seen, if not the best. If I had not bought so much other junk in the last six weeks, I would have taken a serious stab at that bucket.

Best i had ever seen. That was the strangest bidding i've seen on a item in a while though.lol!

That looks to be in once in a lifetime (well, twice if you were there when it came out) condition. I completely missed this auction. Amazing to see.

Something is fishy here. Both the bucket and the head speaker in the auction have absolutely no nose tip wear, which happened to these from moving in the shipping box. The speaker looks unnaturally fresh in the paint department, all over it. No nose wear, no hair wear whatsoever. I smell repaint or touch up at some point in time on these.

What speaker do you speak of?

The one in the auction pics. I am guessing it is one of the resin repops. Many years ago, I painted many of these for people, in a paint scheme identical to a real speaker. That could be one I did; It looks too perfect to be vintage to my eye, loose especially.

And as far as the bucket's paint, I have had and sold MANY Frankenstein buckets in the past, most being mint/unused right out of the shipping box. They all had the box-nose tip 'rub'. I would bet that when these originally made, the heads were stuck in boxes and shipped before the paint was fully cured.
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I didn't scroll down to the last pic. I did not realize that a hard core collector inherited such a perfect example from an uncle who I guess never used it when he got it as a child.
I know I would have used that as my bucket if I got one, and if I used it It certainly wouldn't be in that shape!
Of coarse, maybe he opted for the pillow case, did they do that in the early sixties?

Yes. Pillow cases were used by hardcore trick or treaters in the early sixties. They held up better than shopping bags in the rain.

;)

So, if your mom bought you a Frankenstein bucket for Halloween would you have opted for the pillow case or used the bucket ?

Quote from: ilikemonsters on October 19, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
So, if your mom bought you a Frankenstein bucket for Halloween would you have opted for the pillow case or used the bucket?

I would have used it up to about the age of eight but then ditched it to go for the carrying capacity.

The question is strictly hypothetical of course as my mother would never have bought me a bucket whose use would be limited to one day per year.

???

Quote from: ilikemonsters on October 19, 2012, 03:21:12 PM
I didn't scroll down to the last pic. I did not realize that a hard core collector inherited such a perfect example from an uncle who I guess never used it when he got it as a child.
I know I would have used that as my bucket if I got one, and if I used it It certainly wouldn't be in that shape!
Of coarse, maybe he opted for the pillow case, did they do that in the early sixties?

In my discussion with the seller, he told me his uncle was a diehard collector and Frankenstein maniac.

He also mentioned that his uncle's mother bought him three (3) of the buckets for 59 cents each.

Even though the seller is now a collector himself, he was selling a duplicate bucket to raise money for some other items he had his eye on.  (No word on the fate of the third bucket - maybe that one did trick-or-treating duty.)

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 19, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
In my discussion with the seller, he told me his uncle was a diehard collector and Frankenstein maniac.

He also mentioned that his uncle's mother bought him three (3) of the buckets for 59 cents each.

Even though the seller is now a collector himself, he was selling a duplicate bucket to raise money for some other items he had his eye on.  (No word on the fate of the third bucket - maybe that one did trick-or-treating duty.)

did you ask the seller what state the mom bought them in? Kinda curious.

Yes, wonder if these were sold new on west coast, beautiful bucket!

Quote from: jimm on October 19, 2012, 08:33:23 PM
Yes, wonder if these were sold new on west coast, beautiful bucket!

ya i'm trying to research how far they made it as well. So far i'm not seeing much evidence they were sold past the east coast new.

Quote from: Monster Bob on October 19, 2012, 03:11:09 PM
The one in the auction pics. I am guessing it is one of the resin repops. Many years ago, I painted many of these for people, in a paint scheme identical to a real speaker. That could be one I did; It looks too perfect to be vintage to my eye, loose especially.

And as far as the bucket's paint, I have had and sold MANY Frankenstein buckets in the past, most being mint/unused right out of the shipping box. They all had the box-nose tip 'rub'. I would bet that when these originally made, the heads were stuck in boxes and shipped before the paint was fully cured.
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i didn't really start thinking about this until you mentioned it Bob but it could be worse than just a retouch. Did you notice the pic of the bottom of the bucket? it has this weird circle and some drip marks. I've never seen that on the hand full of bucket bottoms i've seen. ALso in the pic you mentioned earlier there is what looks like a gigantic frankenstein head that is marked prototype. there is also what looks to be another speaker with different paint next to the prototype. Kinda seems weird but hey i'm no expert.

Quote from: horror1o1 on October 19, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
i didn't really start thinking about this until you mentioned it Bob but it could be worse than just a retouch. Did you notice the pic of the bottom of the bucket? it has this weird circle and some drip marks. I've never seen that on the hand full of bucket bottoms i've seen. ALso in the pic you mentioned earlier there is what looks like a gigantic frankenstein head that is marked prototype. there is also what looks to be another speaker with different paint next to the prototype. Kinda seems weird but hey i'm no expert.

I have 2 buckets.

One bucket bottom has the circle and the world "CLINTON" appears on both halves.  The other bucket does not.

The circle is just the right size to accomodate where the "light" version base would begin.  I'm guessing these are just mold differences.

By-the-way:  Both of my buckets have their orginal prices marked in grease pencil on the botoms.  The one without the circle was marked 69 cents.  The one with the circle is marked $1.19.  Could the higher-priced bucket (with the circle) have been made from a "light" mold that was later modified to produce more buckets?

Anyone know how long these were available and what went with the molds?  Were they licensed?  They are not marked as such. 

It is not hard to imagine that Universal issued a cease and desist on these and that is why they are scarce.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 19, 2012, 09:42:38 PM

Anyone know how long these were available and what went with the molds?  Were they licensed?  They are not marked as such. 

The one in the auction in marked U.P.CO., so it would be licensed...

Quote from: horror1o1 on October 19, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
i didn't really start thinking about this until you mentioned it Bob but it could be worse than just a retouch. Did you notice the pic of the bottom of the bucket? it has this weird circle and some drip marks. I've never seen that on the hand full of bucket bottoms i've seen. ALso in the pic you mentioned earlier there is what looks like a gigantic frankenstein head that is marked prototype. there is also what looks to be another speaker with different paint next to the prototype. Kinda seems weird but hey i'm no expert.

It would be easy to retouch one of these with an airbrush, and I suspect that may be what "uncle" did here. It just doesn't look right (or I should say it looks TOO right), and neither does the head speaker. The forehead clamps look just spray painted over, instead of stenciled on.

Quote from: Monster Bob on October 19, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
The one in the auction in marked U.P.CO., so it would be licensed...

Mine are also marked, very faintly, just behind and below the left electrode.

Funny, it never occured to me that it could stand for Universal Pictures.  I am so used to calling it Universal Studios.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 19, 2012, 09:42:38 PM

I have 2 buckets.

One bucket bottom has the circle and the world "CLINTON" appears on both halves.  The other bucket does not.

The circle is just the right size to accomodate where the "light" version base would begin.  I'm guessing these are just mold differences.

By-the-way:  Both of my buckets have their orginal prices marked in grease pencil on the botoms.  The one without the circle was marked 69 cents.  The one with the circle is marked $1.19.  Could the higher-priced bucket (with the circle) have been made from a "light" mold that was later modified to produce more buckets?

Anyone know how long these were available and what went with the molds?  Were they licensed?  They are not marked as such. 

It is not hard to imagine that Universal issued a cease and desist on these and that is why they are scarce.

ok well the circle mystery is solved

These, and the light, had to have only been made for a year or so.   Just about every other  blow mold halloween item from this period can be seen regularly for sale or was in Grandmas attic.   

Clinton Plastics sounds like a small-time outfit, too, not doing the volume of Renzi, Empire or whoever. And if Mom or Grandma was buying a Halloween light, I would bet most opted for a Pumpkin or a black cat, not a half sized Frankenstein head.

Quote from: Dr.Terror on October 20, 2012, 06:27:41 AM
These, and the light, had to have only been made for a year or so.   Just about every other  blow mold halloween item from this period can be seen regularly for sale or was in Grandmas attic.   

ya i'm doubting they made them for very long and doubt the company was big but sometimes blow mold can be weird. Me and my mom own tons of it but there are pieces we are still missing some witches,houses,owls and the topstone buckets. But seems like we just don't see them much in kansas. ALthough today she found some ben cooper style mask and some blow mold at a sale and found our second pirate pumpkin. Which is amazing to me cause up till last year when she found the first I had no idea he existed. I'm wondering if people didn't really pound the pavement on the east coast if the Strange bucket wouldn't come up more.

I just got an answer back from the seller of that last Bucket.

It was originally purchased at a Payless Drug Store store in Washington State in October, 1962.

So the buckets were on sale in the west.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 23, 2012, 09:19:07 PM
I just got an answer back from the seller of that last Bucket.

It was originally purchased at a Payless Drug Store store in Washington State in October, 1962.

So the buckets were on sale in the west.

That is awesome to hear. I had really feared they were never sold outside of the east coast area. that's good news. Ps. you should share pics of your buckets on here. i know there are many already but it's neat just to see every ones.  :D

That's encouraging!

There were Caldors in Maryland up through the 80's.

Quote from: jimm on October 23, 2012, 09:42:35 PM
That's encouraging!

Ya i thought so too. Gives a little more hope.

seen this pic online. The color seems to be different then most i've seen.

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p173/fear-the-reaper/96897829454362635_3nNplqdi_b_zps936401ef.jpg)

These were NEVER easily found even 30 years back.... I've owned maybe 7 or 8 over the years and they always sold almost instantly. MJ variety (they sell on Ebay now) made a small find of these back in the late 80's early 90's and sold them in Toy Shop for 25.00 ea. but other than that ALWAYS hard to find.

Quote from: monsterjoe on December 22, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
These were NEVER easily found even 30 years back.... I've owned maybe 7 or 8 over the years and they always sold almost instantly. MJ variety (they sell on Ebay now) made a small find of these back in the late 80's early 90's and sold them in Toy Shop for 25.00 ea. but other than that ALWAYS hard to find.

ya i've been on the hunt for a while. Possible on of my favorite monster items. I love the sculpt.

I always perk up in an antique store when I see a pile of buckets....keep hopin'  8)

Quote from: jimm on December 22, 2012, 09:36:33 PM
I always perk up in an antique store when I see a pile of buckets....keep hopin'  8)

me too. this last year the buckets were slim though.

Mine just got out of storage...
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/actionplus/Picture642_zps079ede56.jpg)

Quote from: poseablemonster on December 23, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Mine just got out of storage...
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/actionplus/Picture642_zps079ede56.jpg)

STorage??? I don't think I could bare to store it if I had one. I just love looking at this thing.

I had to store it at my in-laws because we moved.  Couldn't be helped. 

Quote from: poseablemonster on December 26, 2012, 12:21:08 AM
I had to store it at my in-laws because we moved.  Couldn't be helped.

That's a good reason. Really nice piece

Quote from: poseablemonster on December 23, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Mine just got out of storage...
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/actionplus/Picture642_zps079ede56.jpg)

I'm glad you are able to enjoy this awesome collectible, again.  ;D

I imagine when I finally find one of these i'll be sleeping with it like Ralphie did his Red Ryder air rifle.lol! ;D

Quote from: horror1o1 on December 26, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
I imagine when I finally find one of these i'll be sleeping with it like Ralphie did his Red Ryder air rifle.lol! ;D

;D

Quote from: marsattacks666 on December 26, 2012, 05:32:20 PM
;D

lol! there's actually a lot of truth to that.

Quote from: horror1o1 on December 26, 2012, 05:54:25 PM
lol! there's actually a lot of truth to that.

Especially because the bucket is a coveted piece. A Holy Grail item. I would too.

Quote from: marsattacks666 on December 26, 2012, 06:27:41 PM

Especially because the bucket is a coveted piece. A Holy Grail item. I would too.

you bet it is. And no one can tell me i'll shoot my eye out.

Quote from: horror1o1 on December 26, 2012, 07:20:40 PM
you bet it is. And no one can tell me i'll shoot my eye out.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Quote from: horror1o1 on December 26, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
I imagine when I finally find one of these i'll be sleeping with it like Ralphie did his Red Ryder air rifle.lol! ;D

At least if you shoot yer eye out, you'll have a cool bucket to keep it in.

Quote from: Scatter on December 26, 2012, 09:09:57 PM
At least if you shoot yer eye out, you'll have a cool bucket to keep it in.

lol! there we go

Quote from: Scatter on December 26, 2012, 09:09:57 PM
At least if you shoot yer eye out, you'll have a cool bucket to keep it in.

Wow! I knew you would have an awesome quip. Lol  ;D

Quote from: horror1o1 on December 26, 2012, 07:20:40 PM
you bet it is. And no one can tell me i'll shoot my eye out.

True, but someone could be a party pooper and mention the fact that sleeping with said bucket would result in rolling over on it and crushing it...  >:D

Quote from: John Pertwee on December 27, 2012, 09:52:41 PM
True, but someone could be a party pooper and mention the fact that sleeping with said bucket would result in rolling over on it and crushing it...  >:D

Are you kidding I would be cradling it like a new born baby.lol!

Quote from: John Pertwee on December 27, 2012, 09:52:41 PM
True, but someone could be a party pooper and mention the fact that sleeping with said bucket would result in rolling over on it and crushing it...  >:D

Ouch! :(

I just acquired mine not too long ago and its in phenomenal shape. Mine has a rope for the handle though, was that common? Here is a pic of it next to the Frankie speaker (http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad139/rkeller3323/IMG_2718_zps1f4948e2.jpg)

Quote from: theripper1985 on December 28, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
I just acquired mine not too long ago and its in phenomenal shape. Mine has a rope for the handle though, was that common? Here is a pic of it next to the Frankie speaker (http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad139/rkeller3323/IMG_2718_zps1f4948e2.jpg)

Wow!!!! The speaker and the bucket. Awesome!

Quote from: theripper1985 on December 28, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
I just acquired mine not too long ago and its in phenomenal shape. Mine has a rope for the handle though, was that common? Here is a pic of it next to the Frankie speaker (http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad139/rkeller3323/IMG_2718_zps1f4948e2.jpg)

wow your one lucky guy and no the rope was something a kid or parent added to replace the handle.

Quote from: theripper1985 on December 28, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
I just acquired mine not too long ago and its in phenomenal shape. Mine has a rope for the handle though, was that common? Here is a pic of it next to the Frankie speaker (http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad139/rkeller3323/IMG_2718_zps1f4948e2.jpg)

A speaker AND a bucket?? That puts you in The One Percent!! Be very careful........a bunch of lazy neo-hippies might be on your tail!!  ;D

Thanks Horror1o1, that makes sense. Haha thanks Scatter!

Quote from: theripper1985 on December 28, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
I just acquired mine not too long ago and its in phenomenal shape. Mine has a rope for the handle though, was that common? Here is a pic of it next to the Frankie speaker (http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad139/rkeller3323/IMG_2718_zps1f4948e2.jpg)

Did you ever wonder, if, the bucket and speaker are rivals? I mean when the lights are out.....do they taugnt each other?
Ha! ;D

Quote from: marsattacks666 on December 28, 2012, 05:54:56 PM
Did you ever wonder, if, the bucket and speaker are rivals? I mean when the lights are out.....do they taugnt each other?
Ha! ;D

Thats why they are in seperate glass boxes...haha

Quote from: theripper1985 on December 28, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
Thats why they are in seperate glass boxes...haha

Ha! :D

is it the light or is your bucket very pale orange?

Quote from: horror1o1 on January 02, 2013, 09:06:24 PM
is it the light or is your bucket very pale orange?

The orange one appears to me.

It is lighter in color...plus the lights make it appear lighter than its lighter color I guess...

Quote from: theripper1985 on January 03, 2013, 03:39:09 PM
It is lighter in color...plus the lights make it appear lighter than its lighter color I guess...

That's awesome. i hope one day to add one of these to my collection. hopefully soon.

have any more of these surfaced lately?

The last one i saw popped up on ebay for $500 went a couple days without bids and disappeared.

Quote from: ilikemonsters on February 08, 2013, 12:05:50 AM
The last one i saw popped up on ebay for $500 went a couple days without bids and disappeared.

ya i haven't seen one for a while either

I saw one at a garage sale last week for $20 but I am holding out for a cheaper one.  >:D

Quote from: John Pertwee on February 10, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
I saw one at a garage sale last week for $20 but I am holding out for a cheaper one.  >:D

your killing me Smalls

Does anyone have one of these for sale? Pm me if you do.

     There is another one of these on eBay right now. Bids are over $300 and hasn't hit the reserve. It's missing the handle and paint on the nose. I'd love to have one but I can't justify paying what these seem to go for. I'm not saying they aren't worth it in the marketplace...just saying they aren't worth it to me personally. I never owned one as a kid so I don't have the personal attachment to it that some collectors do. It does look very cool. Maybe one day I'll stumble upon a bargain on one of these, as many of us are hoping for. I feel the same about the Frankenstein speaker head and pencil sharpener....love to have one, just not at those prices.

Quote from: horrorhunter on March 18, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
     There is another one of these on eBay right now. Bids are over $300 and hasn't hit the reserve. It's missing the handle and paint on the nose. I'd love to have one but I can't justify paying what these seem to go for. I'm not saying they aren't worth it in the marketplace...just saying they aren't worth it to me personally. I never owned one as a kid so I don't have the personal attachment to it that some collectors do. It does look very cool. Maybe one day I'll stumble upon a bargain on one of these, as many of us are hoping for. I feel the same about the Frankenstein speaker head and pencil sharpener....love to have one, just not at those prices.

Someone used the buy-it-now for $550.

That seems like an awful lot for one with no handle and a banged up nose.  The nose did not just have some paint rubbed off of it.  It was caved in and pushed back out from inside.  You can see the creases.

That is a common failing with these buckets.  The noses often have very thin plastic at the tip of the nose.  And it looks as if a dropped Frankenstein bucket always lands in such a way that it will do the most harm.

Makes me wonder what a "perefect" bucket with outstanding paint might bring at auction.

As in all collectibles, it is worth what the buyer is willing to pay.

I hope it goes to a nice home and receives the love of a devoted monsterkid.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on March 18, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
That seems like an awful lot for one with no handle and a banged up nose.  The nose did not just have some paint rubbed off of it.  It was caved in and pushed back out from inside.  You can see the creases.

That is a common failing with these buckets.  The noses often have very thin plastic at the tip of the nose.  And it looks as if a dropped Frankenstein bucket always lands in such a way that it will do the most harm.

Makes me wonder what a "perefect" bucket with outstanding paint might bring at auction.

As in all collectibles, it is worth what the buyer is willing to pay.

I hope it goes to a nice home and receives the love of a devoted monsterkid.

I'm kinda glad some one one bought else bought it. The nose stopped me and the lose of handle. It wasn't in the best shape and i thought the price was high. 

I have to confess guys, it was I who bought the bucket.  I paid more than it was probably worth but I think it has good color and the display condition overall is nice even with the tweaked nose and missing handle.  Between my tax refund and paypal's no interest for six months it was something I could swing and I didn't feel like getting into a bidding war.  This, along with my Emenee Formex Monster Casting set, my "Mon-sturn" Frankenstein Turn Signal figure and some original Aurora monster models will be the "Holy Grails" of my collection so far.  Can't wait to get it! 

Horror, I kicked myself for not going for the Marx Frankenstein wind-up that you picked up recently so I just decided to go for this one.  You got a great deal on that little Frankie and I am glad you got it.  You'll get your bucket don't worry, and a nicer one than this.  I'll post some pictures when I get it. 

Quote from: Neoplastic on March 18, 2013, 09:09:36 PM
I have to confess guys, it was I who bought the bucket.  I paid more than it was probably worth but I think it has good color and the display condition overall is nice even with the tweaked nose and missing handle.  Between my tax refund and paypal's no interest for six months it was something I could swing and I didn't feel like getting into a bidding war.  This, along with my Emenee Formex Monster Casting set, my "Mon-sturn" Frankenstein Turn Signal figure and some original Aurora monster models will be the "Holy Grails" of my collection so far.  Can't wait to get it! 

Horror, I kicked myself for not going for the Marx Frankenstein wind-up that you picked up recently so I just decided to go for this one.  You got a great deal on that little Frankie and I am glad you got it.  You'll get your bucket don't worry, and a nicer one than this.  I'll post some pictures when I get it.

hey thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you got the bucket.  I love my little guy even though he has some condition issues. I'm sure you can get one in nicer and working condition for a little more. Sounds like you have a real appreciation for this bucket and that's what makes it all worth it.  :D

I received my Glenn Strange Candy Bucket and I thought I would post a few pictures.  I am very pleased with the condition of the bucket, the color is nice and bright.  The obvious problems include the missing handle and the slight dent in the nose, but overall I like it even more than I thought I would.  This item wasn't on my shortlist  of wants primarily because I had never seen one in person.  Now, after having spent a few days with him I have to say this is a really cool item.  This has to be considered one of the iconic Monsterkid items not only because of the cool Frankenstein sculpt but also because it is a Halloween item and Halloween was such an important part of the Monsterkid experience, at least it was for me!  Check it out:

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo.jpg)

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo-copy.jpg)

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo-copy-3.jpg)

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo.jpg)

Awesome!!  Great score!!

Quote from: Neoplastic on March 27, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
I received my Glenn Strange Candy Bucket and I thought I would post a few pictures.  I am very pleased with the condition of the bucket, the color is nice and bright.  The obvious problems include the missing handle and the slight dent in the nose, but overall I like it even more than I thought I would.  This item wasn't on my shortlist  of wants primarily because I had never seen one in person.  Now, after having spent a few days with him I have to say this is a really cool item.  This has to be considered one of the iconic Monsterkid items not only because of the cool Frankenstein sculpt but also because it is a Halloween item and Halloween was such an important part of the Monsterkid experience, at least it was for me!  Check it out:

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo.jpg)

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo-copy.jpg)

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo-copy-3.jpg)

(http://tangentsandminutiae.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/photo.jpg)

awesome man

I expect to part with the example on the right (the left is a sentimental favorite which I hope to hang onto for awhile). 
The handles on these buckets are flimsy, thin, and pop off of the rivets easily.  They are also easily re-attached if not ripped, as in the case of my buckets.  These buckets are favorites of mine, and I think the buyer of the latest one on eBay did okay.  They just don't turn up often, but mostly are highly sought after. 

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/HALLOWEENMONSTERCOVERTEST02sz_zps3ddf90e4.jpg)

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 16, 2012, 06:10:23 PM

Sadly, these never got produced:


(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6021/5923818851_737074cf28.jpg)

I would buy these for sure!  Are you kidding me? Motion Sensitive?!  Sound Effects?!  BLINKING EYES?! HIP-MO-TYZED!!!!!!!

Quote from: horror1o1 on August 20, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
has anyone seen pics of kids carrying this bucket trick or treating? Man i would love to see that.

Not too sure I'd let my kid walk around with a $1000.00(+,-) trick or treat bag!  Know what I mean?

Quote from: Scatter on August 29, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
Would you buy a candy bucket from this man?

(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/M/Charles-Manson-9397912-2-402.jpg)

I have a "Charlie" Bucket!  But it's the later version, with the Swastika cut into the forehead!  BWAHAHAAHHAHAH!

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 30, 2012, 07:45:22 AM
From left to right..."Light" version, standard orange, pink version
I am very fond of the light because it is a solid head, i.e. no hole in top.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/backlotcharlie/DSC03023-1.jpg)

Head speaker and original box
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/backlotcharlie/DSC03019-1.jpg)

WOW!  Those are so cool!

Quote from: Monster Bob on August 30, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
Horror101- I would recommend that you start a bucket fund. Popularity of this piece has really grown over the last few years- it has literally doubled-tripled in price. Finding one at a flea market for a buck these days is about as likely as a lightning strike or a shark attack. And the beauty is (unlike a lot of things), in a pinch, you can always get money back out of it.

AND, you'll survive the purchase of the Bucket, where the lightning strike, or shark attack might not give the same results!

if i told everyone i bought my glenn strange frankie bucket on ebay about ten years ago for $20 something dollars and shipping would ya alll believe me........? cause thats where i got mine...the whole world must have been sleeping that day..............??

Quote from: freddie poe on January 20, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
if i told everyone i bought my glenn strange frankie bucket on ebay about ten years ago for $20 something dollars and shipping would ya alll believe me........? cause thats where i got mine...the whole world must have been sleeping that day..............??

It happens.

I got a purple Frankenstein pencil sharpener that was listed as "RARE, RARE, RARE" with five or six large, clear pictures (back when eBay charged for each listing picture).  The seller listed it with a Buy-It-Now price of $8.00 - WITH FREE SHIPPING!

My hands shook so badly I could barely complete my PayPal payment.  I was sure someone must already be completing their payment and would beat me to the draw.

It had been listed for a couple hours.

Quote from: freddie poe on January 20, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
if i told everyone i bought my glenn strange frankie bucket on ebay about ten years ago for $20 something dollars and shipping would ya alll believe me........? cause thats where i got mine...the whole world must have been sleeping that day..............??

I bought mine for $30 in Oct. '13 and I hemmed and hawed over it for about two years before I did. Wasn't until I was doing a search for vintage blow mold at eBay and I saw an auction for one there go for huge money, that I raced to the dealer and snapped it up!

Quote from: esarpy1 on January 20, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
I bought mine for $30 in Oct. '13 and I hemmed and hawed over it for about two years before I did. Wasn't until I was doing a search for vintage blow mold at eBay and I saw an auction for one there go for huge money, that I raced to the dealer and snapped it up!

It sat around with a $30 price tag for 2 years?

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on January 20, 2014, 06:45:28 PM
It sat around with a $30 price tag for 2 years?

I'm just starting to get into Vintage Monster collecting and the Frankenstein Bucket was my first purchase.  We had visited the shop infrequently and had seen the bucket during the visits over the two year span.  And actually, it had a $40 asking price, but he gave me a deal, because I also bought a N.O.S. Blow Mold Bella Lugosi signed Dracula, too!  Funny thing is, he wanted twice as much for the Dracula!  It was bought at an eclectic antique/gold and silver/the guy buys and sells whatever comes into his shop, shop.  Not a vintage monster dealer, by any means.  Nice guy.  He made a profit and was thrilled to have it go to someone who appreciated it.  Everyone was happy. 

Quote from: esarpy1 on January 20, 2014, 06:58:34 PM
I'm just starting to get into Vintage Monster collecting and the Frankenstein Bucket was my first purchase.  We had visited the shop infrequently and had seen the bucket during the visits over the two year span.  And actually, it had a $40 asking price, but he gave me a deal...,

I'll say!

which one Steve? i go to all of them......?

well your pretty lucky or just going to a place ive never been too. i comb this entire area constantly for horror/monster stuff  for the past 40 years and i would have seen that sittin there for 2 years. it wouldnt have lasted 2 seconds!!! never mind 2 years!

Quote from: esarpy1 on January 20, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
Not too sure I'd let my kid walk around with a $1000.00(+,-) trick or treat bag!  Know what I mean?

well I wouldn't rate the that high. And they weren't always collectable at one time there were little monsters carring these buckets door to door. And that thought there puts a smile on my face.

Quote from: horror1o1 on January 21, 2014, 12:37:01 AM
well I wouldn't rate the that high. And they weren't always collectable at one time there were little monsters carring these buckets door to door. And that thought there puts a smile on my face.

One dealer on Ebay has.  He had a "Buy it Now Price" of $999.  Needless to say, I will not be the buyer for that bucket.

Quote from: Haunted hearse on January 21, 2014, 12:24:36 PM
One dealer on Ebay has.  He had a "Buy it Now Price" of $999.  Needless to say, I will not be the buyer for that bucket.

yup i seen it on there. It's been there for a few months i might add.lol!

He probably tells the wife "Whadya mean? I'm trying to sell it!!"

Quote from: jimm on January 21, 2014, 10:47:10 PM
He probably tells the wife "Whadya mean? I'm trying to sell it!!"

lol!

Quote from: horror1o1 on June 15, 2012, 09:11:34 PMDoes anyone know how many or how long this Bucket was produced and was it a nation wide release?

I understand the Frankenstein bucket was released as part of a series of three or four buckets as a Halloween item one year. Do the other buckets surface often? How much do they typically fetch?

???

Quote from: Hepcat on December 19, 2014, 07:46:41 PM
I understand the Frankenstein bucket was released as part of a series of three or four buckets as a Halloween item one year. Do the other buckets surface often? How much do they typically fetch?
???

My contact at the defunct ABG factory, Dennis, says he had a friend that worked at Clinton. and he saved a couple Creature Buckets for himself.

Wait. There are other buckets?

Quote from: Hepcat on December 19, 2014, 07:46:41 PM
I understand the Frankenstein bucket was released as part of a series of three or four buckets as a Halloween item one year. Do the other buckets surface often? How much do they typically fetch?

???

How do you understand this? What are the three or four buckets available? What information have you seen to lead you to such a conclusion? I would love to see any of the other examples if you could point us in the right direction.

It sounds like you are referring to this post which I thought was a tongue in cheek joke.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on September 26, 2014, 10:42:39 PM
Now you can put on your new Creature costume, take your ultra-rare Clinton Plastics Creature Bucket and go again.

Only to have said author verify with a "FOAF" (urban legend term for Friend of a friend) sighting.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on December 19, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
My contact at the defunct ABG factory, Dennis, says he had a friend that worked at Clinton. and he saved a couple Creature Buckets for himself.

Quote from: Ghost on December 19, 2014, 11:17:54 PMHow do you understand this? What are the three or four buckets available? What information have you seen to lead you to such a conclusion?

From one of the Frankenstein bucket threads on this board! The reason the Frankenstein bucket is relatively scarce is mothers weren't inclined toward the Frankenstein bucket. They preferred the jack-o-lantern(?) and ghost(?) and witch(?) or whatever they were.

Quote from: Ghost on December 19, 2014, 11:27:01 PMIt sounds like you are referring to this post which I thought was a tongue in cheek joke.

No I am not! A Creature bucket would have been a sure loser with mothers too.

???

Quote from: Hepcat on December 19, 2014, 11:34:03 PM
From one of the Frankenstein bucket threads on this board! The reason the Frankenstein bucket is relatively scarce is mothers weren't inclined toward the Frankenstein. They preferred the jack-o-lantern(?) and ghost(?) and witch(?) or whatever they were.

???

A search of this site under multiple terms and looking in every bucket thread yielded no such information to me. Could you kindly point me to the right thread? I can't imagine such a thread being part of the purge awhile ago as it is definitely on topic. I am aware of a small pumpkin and a skull stick, the Stange bucket, Strange lamp, Strange candy dish, and Strange speaker. I would love to see any other pictures of Clinton Plastics co. Halloween merchandise.

I'd love to go back and find the post(s), but that's precisely the problem. I believe it was from about two years ago and I haven't a clue as to where to find it. And that's precisely why I asked. There was a reference to other Clinton Halloween buckets made at the time, and I'm now wondering what they were. One of the Halloween blow mold collectors on this board probably knows.

:-\

Well I searched and read every thread even the ones several years old under these terms "Frankenstein, Clint Plastics, Clinton Plastics, Clinton Co., Clinton Company, Clint Company, Glenn Strange, Glen Strange, bucket, pail, lamp, speaker; and failed to find it. I hope someone out there can. Google, Bing, and Yahoo yielded no results either. No auctions at Hakes or Ebay within the search limits.

My understanding is that the scarcity of the Glenn Strange Clinton Plastics items were because of limited production and distribution. With even less movement among known examples once collectors obtained one. I do not have any first hand knowledge and was not even born in the decade they were commercially available at retail so I rely heavily on the information gathered here by those who lived it, who own it, and who remember it when it comes to collecting monster items before my time.

There aren't any other uni monster vintage 60s buckets ive seen besides the glenn strange bucket, nor do I think there are or ever were any.
I believe this current confusion is stemming from a conversation about the 1999 sideshow frankenstein bucket and there were supposed to be other buckets released when that one was. A wolfman, mummy, and dracula i think, not sure exactly which ones, either way they never saw the light of day. Rumor was there Might have been prototypes? And a production photo somewhere? Can't recall.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on December 19, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
My contact at the defunct ABG factory, Dennis, says he had a friend that worked at Clinton. and he saved a couple Creature Buckets for himself.

This statement is adam being ornery and adding to his awesome april fools day prank! Still working quite well I might add.
Try to keep up people.....lol

Quote from: frankenstein73 on December 20, 2014, 12:55:45 AM
There aren't any other uni monster vintage 60s buckets ive seen besides the glenn strange bucket, nor do I think there are or ever were any...

...This statement is adam being ornery and adding to his awesome april fools day prank! Still working quite well I might add.
Try to keep up people.....lol

Yeah.  Shame on me.

(For newer members:  http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=25455.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=25455.0) )

I also kidded Mike Scott about putting on his full-body Creature costume and carrying his ultra-rare Clinton Creature bucket when he went trick-or-treating in one of the threads at the UMA.

There ain't no such critter, folks.  I wish there had been other Clinton buckets and that they were of the same quality as the Frankenstein model.

(I just can't bring myself to use those stupid little Happy Faces in my posts.)

Arrrgghhh!!! What a hornet's nest!

Quote from: Ghost on December 19, 2014, 11:57:33 PM
Well I searched and read every thread even the ones several years old under these terms "Frankenstein, Clint Plastics, Clinton Plastics, Clinton Co., Clinton Company, Clint Company, Glenn Strange, Glen Strange, bucket, pail, lamp, speaker; and failed to find it.

The key search term would be "mother" in the Vintage Monster Toy forum. While I found many other fascinating posts/threads using it (which I'll now bump up), no I didn't find the post on which my hazy memory is based.

Quote from: frankenstein73 on December 20, 2014, 12:55:45 AMThere aren't any other uni monster vintage 60s buckets ive seen besides the glenn strange bucket, nor do I think there are or ever were any.... This statement is adam being ornery and adding to his awesome april fools day prank!

I didn't think there were any other Universal Monster buckets. I thought there were other Clinton Halloween buckets! And my "confusion" has nothing to do with Adam's Halloween prank. It may however stem from this post here:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9652.msg152168;topicseen#msg152168 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9652.msg152168;topicseen#msg152168)

It would seem strange though for Clinton Plastics to have only produced this one model of Halloween trick or treating bucket.

???

Quote from: Hepcat on December 20, 2014, 10:49:10 AM
Arrrgghhh!!! What a hornet's nest!

The key search term would be "mother" in the Vintage Monster Toy forum. While I found many other fascinating posts/threads using it (which I'll now bump up), no I didn't find the post on which my hazy memory is based.

I didn't think there were any other Universal Monster buckets. I thought there were other Clinton Halloween buckets! And my "confusion" has nothing to do with Adam's Halloween prank. It may however stem from this post here:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9652.msg152168;topicseen#msg152168 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9652.msg152168;topicseen#msg152168)

It would seem strange though for Clinton Plastics to have only produced this one model of Halloween trick or treating bucket.

???

109 results in Vintage toys alone with the search term "mother" not a single one references any other Clinton Plastics buckets. The only references to hysterical mothers forcing industry change or selections or the availability of any monster item or scarcity because of motherly disapproval are your own posts. The only substantiated incidence being the Aurora Monster Scenes model kits.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on August 16, 2012, 06:10:23 PM

Sadly, these never got produced:


(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6021/5923818851_737074cf28.jpg)

Any thing to do with these?

Another thing I have always pondered is why are the Head Speaker and Halloween Bucket made by two different companies? Or was it the same company that changed names? Of was it one company bought out by another? Or ...?

Did Clinton make anything else besides the Strange Frank Bucket?

You'd certainly think so.

Quote from: Monster Bob on December 20, 2014, 01:36:52 PM
Another thing I have always pondered is why are the Head Speaker and Halloween Bucket made by two different companies? Or was it the same company that changed names? Of was it one company bought out by another? Or ...?

Good question, both from NJ.

Quote from: horrorhunter on December 20, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
Did Clinton make anything else besides the Strange Frank Bucket?

Clinton Plastics Co. - Glenn Strange Bucket, Glenn Strange Lamp, Glenn Strange Candy Dish, Skull Stick in orange, Skull Stick in white, and small plastic pumpkin scissors grabber.

(http://www.vintagehalloweentoys.com/uploads/8/3/0/3/8303266/6171396_orig.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2860083303_ae78d4d1d7.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Vk1u6va4JpA/UHrdN7QCZUI/AAAAAAAABCE/vvgk04gNy_0/s903/clinton+toys+combo.jpg)

Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4082/4738317985_2c417e7c33_b.jpg)

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on December 20, 2014, 01:04:43 PM
Any thing to do with these?

Yes, thanks Adam.  those are the ones I was thinking of! Not sideshow but I knew I had seen something with other buckets couldn't quite remember, it was lost somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind. I do remember seeing that sample sheet now though, those would have been so cool....how could they not have been made?

Glenn strange candy dish? Whats that look like?

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on December 20, 2014, 01:18:10 AM

(I just can't bring myself to use those stupid little Happy Faces in my posts.)

:D ;) :)

Quote from: Ghost on December 20, 2014, 01:51:38 PM
...Clinton Plastics Co. - Glenn Strange Bucket, Glenn Strange Lamp, Glenn Strange Candy Dish, Skull Stick in orange, Skull Stick in white, and small plastic pumpkin scissors grabber....
Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company...

They also made a Frankenstein light without the base.  The Frank with a base has a hole between head and base and is all cast as one piece.  The sans base light's head has no hole underneath - just like the bucket.

I far as I can tell there are these variations of the same sculpt:

Strange candy bucket for trick or treating
Strange lamp with base small hole for light
Strange lamp without base small hole for light
Strange candy bucket with base (i.e. candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters no carry strap with pedestal to rest on) large hole on top

Quote from: Ghost on December 20, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
I far as I can tell there are these variations of the same sculpt:

1. Strange candy bucket for trick or treating
2. Strange lamp with base small hole for light
3. Strange lamp without base small hole for light
4. Strange candy bucket with base (i.e. candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters as it would not be easy to carry
    around) large hole on top

I've never seen Number 4.

Does anyone have a picture?

One showed up a few years ago it looks pretty identical to the regular lamp with base but the head had the same large opening as the candy bucket. There was some speculation of production error or product demo or mock up, and even that someone cut the top off. I am trying to find the picture.

Quote from: mjaycox on October 22, 2013, 06:37:16 PM
And now to further muddy the waters, there is a head lamp on EBay with the proper pedestal base, but the head is open like a candy bucket
http://bit.ly/1dghkt3 (http://bit.ly/1dghkt3)

The ebay link is old and the picture no longer visible. It was listed as a candy pail.

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on December 20, 2014, 03:41:30 PM
I've never seen Number 4.

Does anyone have a picture?

I found it ironically in the one of your old posts!

Quote from: Monsters For Sale on October 26, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
It sold for $670.00.


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/10378770075_860d11b509_o.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7366/10378957303_a07df29d52_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/10378957003_f8c686ab53_o.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7305/10378792326_b621301d5f_o.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7394/10466778613_0769b0ff27_o.jpg)

That last picture shows pretty clearly that the head and base are molded as one continuous piece.

I was surprised that it did not bring a couple hundred more.

"Strange", indeed.

It has a base and hole in back for light insertion - just like a regular light.

But it also has the big hole in the top and a rivet that indicates a handle was once attached - just like a regular bucket.

Weird.

Quote from: Ghost on December 20, 2014, 12:05:18 PMThe only references to hysterical mothers forcing industry change or selections or the availability of any monster item or scarcity because of motherly disapproval are your own posts. The only substantiated incidence being the Aurora Monster Scenes model kits.

Why are you limiting your sample to monster items? What about the concerted effort to get metal lunch boxes banned because they could be used as "weapons"? What about the disappearance/banning of candy cigarettes? Toy guns? Projectiles? What about the disappearance of the word "sugar" from the names of cereals, e.g. Sugar Pops becoming Corn Pops? For that matter, have you tried recently to find good old-fashioned gum such as Dentyne or Doublemint without chemical sweeteners?

???

So I  hope everyone is up to speed now.

Clinton Plastics made

1. Glenn Strange Candy bucket for trick or treating large hole on top strap riveted on sometimes inside or outside.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/HALLOWEENMONSTERCOVERTEST02sz_zps3ddf90e4.jpg)

2. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/FrankenWHAT1_zps3bafd4ba.jpg)

3. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light with a base or pedestal molded in one piece

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3052/2860083303_ae78d4d1d7_b.jpg)

4. Glenn Strange lamp/bucket hybrid with large hole on top, small hole in back for the light and base or pedestal molded in one piece called variously candy pail or candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7305/10378792326_b621301d5f_o.jpg)

There are no known glow versions are all examples are likely sun faded or painted. The pink versions could possibly be plastic deterioration or a change in ingredients for a very small batch. 

In addition to those Clinton products that have shown up are a pumpkin scissors and skull staffs.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Vk1u6va4JpA/UHrdN7QCZUI/AAAAAAAABCE/vvgk04gNy_0/s903/clinton+toys+combo.jpg)

Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4082/4738317985_2c417e7c33_b.jpg)

Quote from: Hepcat on December 20, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
Why are you limiting your sample to monster items? What about the concerted effort to get metal lunch boxes banned because they could be used as "weapons"? What about the disappearance/banning of candy cigarettes? Toy guns? Projectiles? What about the disappearance of the word "sugar" from the names of cereals, e.g. Sugar Pops becoming Corn Pops? For that matter, have you tried recently to find good old-fashioned gum such as Dentyne or Doublemint without chemical sweeteners?

???

As in the context of the search term "mother" on these boards and in reference to your reasoning as to why the Frankenstein buckets were so scarce and what possible others were available.

Quote from: Hepcat on December 19, 2014, 11:34:03 PM
From one of the Frankenstein bucket threads on this board! The reason the Frankenstein bucket is relatively scarce is mothers weren't inclined toward the Frankenstein bucket. They preferred the jack-o-lantern(?) and ghost(?) and witch(?) or whatever they were.

No I am not! A Creature bucket would have been a sure loser with mothers too.

???

Basically I knew very well there were never any examples of other Clinton buckets talked about on these boards having researched heavily prior to posting. Expanding the search to the internet also yielded no results. There was however a possibility and you being old enough to possibly remember or having collected long enough to have run into that information somewhere I tried as nicely as possible to give you the chance to back up your claims with a direct link to the conversation or photos of said products. You admitted it was based on a hazy memory but was adamant that  they existed anyway. I never doubted your genuine belief that you had read that somewhere but unfortunately memory alone is not always reliable. I included Adam's prank that I was aware of as an a possible cause of the confusion as he lists his "source" as a owner of creature buckets and even implied it was likely an urban legend. At this point I think that all things considered the set of never produced buckets from the late 1990s-2000s shown earlier with a Boris Karloff likeness, the Mummy, and Wolf Man are likely the culprits. By stating it the way you did you were purporting it as a fact not a question about any other buckets and such misinformation and rumors can quickly dupe others like Adam's April Fools' prank and get hopes up. I don't think you meant to mislead intentionally. I apologize if my posts seem antagonistic to you or come off rude. I am sorry. They may have been. I was trying to quickly clear up any misunderstanding about what is actually out there. There is still a wide possibility as only really a handful of Halloween products from the company have surfaced and there is that great question about whether or not the companies merged or were bought out and if other products exist under a different company name with the same sculpts or molds.

The "pink" version is not deterioration, fading, or anything else. It is molded in pink plastic. I found three of them together about 15-20 years ago, UNUSED, all were pink with the identical paint scheme. At the time, I was just like- 'wow, they did them in pink, too,' and kept one of them. I believe I already had the light, which I had paid $75 for (and debated that at the time). Bill Bruegman claimed to have a "bike horn" version in one of his early catalogs- it had a handle on it like a siren horn, but the catalog picture used looked fabricated/put together/faked, and I never heard of anyone owning it, though it "sold". I still don't buy that one was real, at least until I see one for real.

RE- the "lighted candy bucket with base and hole and rivots"...wouldn't the light melt the candy? These lights get fairly warm, and your candy would be touching a hot light bulb. Doesn't make much sense.

Quote from: Monster Bob on December 21, 2014, 11:09:39 AM
The "pink" version is not deterioration, fading, or anything else. It is molded in pink plastic. I found three of them together about 15-20 years ago, UNUSED, all were pink with the identical paint scheme. At the time, I was just like- 'wow, they did them in pink, too,' and kept one of them. I believe I already had the light, which I had paid $75 for (and debated that at the time). Bill Bruegman claimed to have a "bike horn" version in one of his early catalogs- it had a handle on it like a siren horn, but the catalog picture used looked fabricated/put together/faked, and I never heard of anyone owning it, though it "sold". I still don't buy that one was real, at least until I see one for real.

RE- the "lighted candy bucket with base and hole and rivots"...wouldn't the light melt the candy? These lights get fairly warm, and your candy would be touching a hot light bulb. Doesn't make much sense.

Many plastic toys have shifted colors completely not because of sun fading but because of the chemical breakdown of the plastic used causing blues to look green and oranges to look pink causing collectors to think a rare variation has been found because it is obviously molded in that color and there is no sign of plastic rot such as stickiness, brittleness, or patches of discoloration. Some of these examples are brand new still in a sealed package. Now I am not saying I know for sure, you are the one who owned/owns it, however it is a possibility that either a small batch was done in pink purposely like I said or that the mixture of plastic for whatever reason has turned pink in a small batch. A change in ingredients in the plastic molding process will change the final color but I did not say that pink was not the desired color for that batch. Pink could have been an alternate color and I did not exclude that possibility, just included the possibility of a change in the manufacturing process. That includes pink as the desired color, pink as an unintended color manufacturer's error, and pink as a chemical change in the plastic due to a variation in the plastic molding process. I don't think we will ever know for sure.

You are right the candy bucket lamp makes zero sense. It is clearly molded as a lamp however the presence of the rivets for the handle is an enigma because it would be unwieldy to a trick or treating child. The lamp would melt the candy if used simultaneously as a dish but the lamp also has lost all effectiveness because of the large hole cut out of the top. I think that was the reason that there was speculation that it was a production mock up for a lamp using an existing bucket as an pre-sales sample or mock up. It is a weird example that cannot be used comfortably as a trick or treating bucket, is not effective as a lamp, and could be used as a candy dish with a useless lamp attached.

The candy would also fall down through the narrow hole at the top of the base and get lodged in the hollow bottom.

The item is a real "Frankenstein" conglomeration of features.

That Skull Club is near as cool as the Frankenstein

I believe I have the Skull Club somewhere, and in the back of my brain I remember it being a Clinton product. Mine has something molded inside it also, so actually it's a RATTLE...~!

BTW, I just noticed my 'pink' head has impressions on the bottom which appear to be for a base. A 2" hole impression and impressions for screws or or rivots something similar to attach a base.

Potential new (unseen, at least by me) Glenn Strange Lamp version molded in green like the speaker head went for a pittance recently on evilbay ($75).

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp1_zpsile9hn2c.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp2_zpskeazaxfd.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp3_zpsn5xlh8xw.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp4_zpskx9otldn.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp5_zpspb2mhn5l.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp6_zpsbh0evstq.jpg)

The previous known versions to me were:

Quote from: Ghost on December 20, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
Clinton Plastics made

1. Glenn Strange Candy bucket for trick or treating large hole on top strap riveted on sometimes inside or outside.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/HALLOWEENMONSTERCOVERTEST02sz_zps3ddf90e4.jpg)

2. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/FrankenWHAT1_zps3bafd4ba.jpg)

3. Glenn Strange lamp with solid top with small hole in the back for the light with a base or pedestal molded in one piece

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3052/2860083303_ae78d4d1d7_b.jpg)

4. Glenn Strange lamp/bucket hybrid with large hole on top, small hole in back for the light and base or pedestal molded in one piece called variously candy pail or candy dish to be set out for trick or treaters.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7305/10378792326_b621301d5f_o.jpg)

There are no known glow versions are all examples are likely sun faded or painted. The pink versions could possibly be plastic deterioration or a change in ingredients for a very small batch for an intended or unintended color change. 

In addition to those Clinton products that have shown up are a pumpkin scissors and skull staffs.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Vk1u6va4JpA/UHrdN7QCZUI/AAAAAAAABCE/vvgk04gNy_0/s903/clinton+toys+combo.jpg)

Actwell Plastic Corp. - Glenn Strange head Speaker same sculpt as the Clinton products possibly distributed by Captain Company

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4082/4738317985_2c417e7c33_b.jpg)

Quote from: Ghost on October 15, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
Potential new (unseen, at least by me) Glenn Strange Lamp version molded in green like the speaker head went for a pittance recently on evilbay ($75).

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp1_zpsile9hn2c.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp2_zpskeazaxfd.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp3_zpsn5xlh8xw.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp4_zpskx9otldn.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp5_zpspb2mhn5l.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/sldn7/Conan/glennstrangelamp6_zpsbh0evstq.jpg)

The previous known versions to me were:

Nice use of your head speaker!

Matt

Quote from: Ghost on October 15, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
Potential new (unseen, at least by me) Glenn Strange Lamp version molded in green like the speaker head went for a pittance recently on evilbay ($75)....

Man, caught me sleeping on THAT one!

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/685/22193830562_acbf7faa41_b.jpg)


Even one of the repos did a lot better:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5731/21583791484_0c537441f0_b.jpg)


I haven't been very attentive to eBay auctions, lately.  Too much of life requiring my attention.  But, this was a Buy-It-Now situation (with free shipping, no less), so I probably wouldn't have caught it anyway.

CONGRATULATIONS to the sharp-eyed winner!  (Hope he was one of us, and not just someone who will immediately re-list the head for a big profit.)

It's a rehashed and repurposed head speaker, not sold that way. The top of the head and bolt hole says head speaker all day. Still a bargain.

BIN if you're in the market for one of these~~

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Vintage-Glenn-Strange-Frankenstein-Head-Halloween-Bucket-Pail-Clinton-Plas/331675300478?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33890%26meid%3D407deb6a8b134e1c9ec40118f7ea0516%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D371465696815 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Vintage-Glenn-Strange-Frankenstein-Head-Halloween-Bucket-Pail-Clinton-Plas/331675300478?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33890%26meid%3D407deb6a8b134e1c9ec40118f7ea0516%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D371465696815)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/anIAAOSwAodWFRVM/s-l1600.jpg)

with 3D printer on demand services available now-a-days we can all have a Glenn Strange Frankie bucket souvenir for a fraction of the cost of what the vintage item is occasionally put up for sale for (and sometimes gets) from an exact size replica to mini sized buckets in any color we want...anyone have a bunch of high res photos and CAD program (to convert to 3D file) know how? LOL. Most items in this size range go for $50 bucks or less to order according to the online quotes I dabbled with to amuse myself.

At some point the nostalgic value will be gone as those old enough to have purchased, owned or still remember such an vintage rare item will no longer be alive, then what happens to the value? Does it plummet as such sentimental reasons cease to exist or instead sky rocket as shrewd antique dealers attempt to fleece the well heeled credulous? Is $200 really fair for a piece of plastic? Or is $500 bucks or more (exorbitant trending asking prices) really what they are worth? Just because someone rich and famous decided they wanted one at any cost and wouldn't care in the slightest about spending $500 bucks before tea time doesn't mean that is the actual current market value. Most vintage Halloween items even 50 years older than the Strange buckets don't cost nearly as much mainly because there is no sentimental value anymore as the original owners of such items are long dead so the items eventually gain an intrinsic value based solely on what they are and if someone still really wants to own one of those, not just based on age or rarity as an "antique or vintage item."

Considering what the original sale pricing was for a Strange Bucket (less than a dollar, 64 cents), these things appreciate like rare fancy sport cars over the years it seems. 500 times the original value in 50 years? Nothing collectible goes up in price 100 times the original value every decade that I am aware of except perhaps coveted one of a kind items such as actual film props or rare fine art. It is hardly a museum piece or a major impact on pop culture to be treasured by all. What is the actual realistic value of such a poor quality, never intended to be a collectible, cheap plastic seasonal/promotional item? Especially when there are fewer and fewer who would personally value it so highly left? Of course the answer always is whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

When all of the "monster Kids" of that generation are gone all we are left with is a cool looking bucket that newer generations of monster fans wouldn't mind owning but sure as heck won't be paying that kind of price for. This holy grail will just be passed down in the family as grandpa's cool old Frankenstein bucket in another decade or two, given to the thrift store or sold at yard sale or estate sale, or sold at auction for much much less than the ridiculous prices they have been sold for in the last ten years due to collectors craze and auction bidding wars unintentionally jacking up the "price" one can fetch, much to the dismay of those who think such collectibles are a way to "invest." The ease of online shopping making such rare items available to more prospective buyers has artificially increased the worth due to simple competition, but it will be short lived value that will rapidly depreciate. Yard sale items selling for high prices online will come crashing down in value because of their intrinsic worth.When you are dead and buried the prize of your collection be it vintage items or limited edition modern toys just becomes the junk to be gone through by your next of kin. You can't take it with you.
The few Strange buckets that are still out there in reasonable condition are mostly in collectors hands now but in just a few more years perhaps a decade or two someone will be getting the very last one ever sold at a garage sale or swap meet before they all end up eventually at the dump. 50 years from now it will hardly matter and will just be a old piece of plastic. He-Man, barbie and G.I. Joe will be worth less and less over time once the generations that actually played with them are long gone too.

I think it is high time they did mass market repos of this item or if not exact replicas then why not similar likeness UM licensed items for all of the Universal Monsters with licensing that can be reasonably obtained while there are still fans who would actually appreciate them? The argument that they won't sell to non-monster fans or the casual buyer doesn't hold water because generic Frank goods fly of the shelves every year at Halloween. Cool looking frank pails like this would sell, movie likeness or not. Few in the English speaking world and beyond do not know who Frankenstein's monster or Dracula are, and Halloween sales are a billion dollar industry annually; there is simply no reason not to make such recognizable character pails, this is not a collector fringe market only item. Even a casual shopper today with no idea of it's actual current highly inflated "value" at the thrift store would put one in their basket, "oh cool it's Frankenstein, I want that!" and probably get it for close to the original sale price based on it's intrinsic value alone as an old, worn out, cheaply made, paint peeled, plastic trick or treat candy bucket.

 

Yes, this is a repurposed head speaker...someone got a great deal!

As far as making 3D copies of whatever, there are those that still want the original object (of whatever subject or object) and are willing to pay for an original. Which is why there is a "market" for these.

There is no Star Trekian device (at this point anyway) that can make an identical copy. You could print a new Detective Comics #27, but it still isn't an original copy.

Not this again. We already had this discussion the last time a Frankenstein bucket was auctioned off on Ebay:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28026.60 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28026.60)

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 12:19:13 PMMost vintage Halloween items even 50 years older than the Strange buckets don't cost nearly as much mainly because there is no sentimental value anymore as the original owners of such items are long dead....

This holy grail will just be passed down in the family as grandpa's cool old Frankenstein bucket in another decade or two, given to the thrift store or sold at yard sale or estate sale, or sold at auction for much much less than the ridiculous prices they have been sold for in the last ten years due to collectors craze and auction bidding wars unintentionally jacking up the "price" one can fetch, much to the dismay of those who think such collectibles are a way to "invest."

When you are dead and buried the prize of your collection be it vintage items or limited edition modern toys just becomes the junk to be gone through by your next of kin. You can't take it with you.

Yes, you're right about the demographics. The premise behind thinking of these items as an investment is shaky indeed. But your point is also entirely irrelevant. You see I buy these items for me, for my own personal satisfaction, for the sentimental value I myself derive. I pay no more for a collectible than it's worth to me. I neither buy these items as an "investment", nor am I buying them for anyone else. So if their resale value plummets after I'm gone, it won't matter. Because I'll be dead!

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 12:19:13 PMI think it is high time they did mass market repos of this item or if not exact replicas then why not similar likeness UM licensed items for all of the Universal Monsters with licensing that can be reasonably obtained while there are still fans who would actually appreciate them?

If someone thought there was a buck in it, they would have done so. But there has to be a buck in it for them because no company is going to repop an item just to make it available for you at a price you're willing to pay. I hate to break it to you but corporations are in the business of making money. They're not in the business of making items available at a price any particular sub-sector of the market is willing to pay. Now they may end up doing precisely that, but the bottom line is precisely their bottom line, not yours.

But what's the point of this long-winded rant of yours? Frustrated that you can't get a bucket at a price you're willing to pay? Look, either buy the Frankenstein bucket at the best price you can find, or don't. But stop kvetching about the price other people are willing to pay for the thing! It's their money, and their choice. They're only "crazy" if they think it's some sort of an investment. But somehow I doubt that they care about the bucket's "value" once they're gone.

And stop whining about other's unwillingness to repop the thing. Like I say, people are in business to make money, and not to cater to your personal whims, preferences or whatever.

cl:)

That head speaker had to be the ebay find of the season. I have Frankenstein pail/pale/bucket as saved searches, but that wouldn't have helped me with that listing. Oh well!

Quote from: raycastile on October 26, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
That head speaker had to be the ebay find of the season. I have Frankenstein pail/pale/bucket as saved searches, but that wouldn't have helped me with that listing. Oh well!

Even if you had seen it in your e-mails, you would have had to be there right away.  As a Buy-It-Now item it went to the first collector who recognized what it was.

It would have shown up in my searches, if I had been looking beyond the dozen that appear in my e-mail page.  I was taking a little hiatus from buying anything  and not looking through all my results.

Still, I would have had to be the first to see it for what it was - slim chance.

Maybe next time.

(Man, someone got lucky!)

Boy, that is one epic rant about a plastic Halloween bucket. The funny thing about all this Frankenstein angst is that, as collectibles go, that bucket ain't even that expensive. Sure, it's more money than I can pull out of my pocket on most days, but it's nothing compared to a lot of other items in the monster collecting hobby, let alone the bigger world of pop culture memorabilia. Most of my paychecks are less than the top-dollar price for this bucket. But I've got one. If you really want one, you can sacrifice a paycheck and get one, too. Buck up. Do without some things for a month. Sell something. Make some sacrifices. Or go into the field and hunt through garage sales, estate sales, antique shops, thrift stores, etc. Go to toy shows. I'm constantly amazed at the great deals my friends find at shows, almost on a weekly basis. No one is entitled to a Frankenstein bucket. And as I said, as holy grails go, this one is pretty obtainable. It's only on ebay every other week. I wish my grails were as easy to fulfill as this. How many "I can't get a bucket" posts does one forum need?

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 12:19:13 PM
with 3D printer on demand services available now-a-days we can all have a Glenn Strange Frankie bucket souvenir for a fraction of the cost of what the vintage item is occasionally put up for sale for (and sometimes gets) from an exact size replica to mini sized buckets in any color we want...anyone have a bunch of high res photos and CAD program (to convert to 3D file) know how? LOL. Most items in this size range go for $50 bucks or less to order according to the online quotes I dabbled with to amuse myself.

...blah blah blah...

I think it is high time they did mass market repos of this item or if not exact replicas then why not similar likeness UM licensed items for all of the Universal Monsters with licensing that can be reasonably obtained while there are still fans who would actually appreciate them? The argument that they won't sell to non-monster fans or the casual buyer doesn't hold water because generic Frank goods fly of the shelves every year at Halloween. Cool looking frank pails like this would sell, movie likeness or not. Few in the English speaking world and beyond do not know who Frankenstein's monster or Dracula are, and Halloween sales are a billion dollar industry annually; there is simply no reason not to make such recognizable character pails, this is not a collector fringe market only item. Even a casual shopper today with no idea of it's actual current highly inflated "value" at the thrift store would put one in their basket, "oh cool it's Frankenstein, I want that!" and probably get it for close to the original sale price based on it's intrinsic value alone as an old, worn out, cheaply made, paint peeled, plastic trick or treat candy bucket.

Don't think it's about what the next generation does with our stuff... It's about enjoying it in our time...

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Quote from: raycastile on October 26, 2015, 04:48:13 PM
Boy, that is one epic rant about a plastic Halloween bucket. The funny thing about all this Frankenstein angst is that, as collectibles go, that bucket ain't even that expensive. Sure, it's more money than I can pull out of my pocket on most days, but it's nothing compared to a lot of other items in the monster collecting hobby, let alone the bigger world of pop culture memorabilia. Most of my paychecks are less than the top-dollar price for this bucket. But I've got one. If you really want one, you can sacrifice a paycheck and get one, too. Buck up. Do without some things for a month. Sell something. Make some sacrifices. Or go into the field and hunt through garage sales, estate sales, antique shops, thrift stores, etc. Go to toy shows. I'm constantly amazed at the great deals my friends find at shows, almost on a weekly basis. No one is entitled to a Frankenstein bucket. And as I said, as holy grails go, this one is pretty obtainable. It's only on ebay every other week. I wish my grails were as easy to fulfill as this. How many "I can't get a bucket" posts does one forum need?

It never was about if I could or couldn't get a bucket, I never even said i couldn't get one in my post. Sure I could trot on down to the pawn shop or skimp and save on whatever for a few months to get one with my measly paycheck. I do wish that I could get one but probably won't ever own one because it really just isn't worth hundreds of dollars. We all love monsters (especially the Glenn Strange Frankenstein for me) that is why we are here on this forum, and I think this product was especially well done. I think it looks very cool and appreciate the old style but i see it for what it really is: an old Halloween candy bucket no matter how cool or nifty we think it is.

It is all about how some think a plastic bucket could possibly be worth 500 dollars or more, which frankly it isn't (pun intended.) The few collectors who actually think that it is are going to be dead and buried in a decade or two, three at most with their buckets up on the auction block going for a fraction of what they paid (unless they lucked into one by chance probably before the advent of online auctions that drove the prices up ridiculously usually between a handful of reckless collector buyers at most.)
The new monster generation will never get to own or appreciate cool items like this because of the overpriced current "value" and because they have no sentimental link to them to want to spend more than they are really worth. The skull sticks made by the same company at the same time or old general Halloween blow mold items more accurately represent their current value as far as vintage plastic items go in my opinion. Still a much much greater increase in value versus original cost than inflation.
Sure people will always collect vintage stuff at elevated prices due to perceived rarity, but as soon as the generation that originally owned them is gone, the prices will not reflect a "gotta have this link to my childhood at any cost" sentimentality by a few well off collectors who can afford to blow some cash but a more reasoned appraisal of it's actual intrinsic worth, condition and relative rarity.

This "buck up," "pony up the dough" or "take a swing at bat" mentality is just an economic pissing contest between those with more disposable income burning a hole in their pockets and those who don't have savings built up to prudently or realistically afford it or the willingness to blow a paycheck on an absolute non-necessity; or it could possibly reflect a generational gap, plenty of young adults wouldn't hesitate to blow that much on the latest greatest video game console rather than a trick or treat bucket.

You can afford to collect one? Whoop-tee-do. You have all ten they ever made of whatever rare item? good for you too. You own the only one known in existence? Who cares. Rather let's print a million of them and let new fans delight in owning something cool. Monster fans are dying out and not replenishing their numbers. In 40 years they won't be talking Glenn Strange or Bela Lugosi when they are looking at Frankenstein or Dracula collectibles, they will be talking about Monster High and Hotel Transylvania toys because Universal and the current likeness rights holders for these great old movies won't do anything with them. That is sad. Monster collecting is slowing dying. The "they haven't because there is no profit in it, or they woulda done it by now" argument is dead wrong too, people love and buy generic Frankenstein stuff all the time they just can't get a Karloff likeness or a Strange Bucket anymore because no one is willing to make a cheap Halloween item for the masses like that anymore, because likeness rights should demand high end collector's pricing and limited runs right? WRONG. Several million Spiderman and Darth Vader candy buckets sold yearly prove otherwise. If Universal and whoever pays for the licensing would actually get it done it would sell. UM lunchboxes would fly off comic store shelves not just to dedicated monster collectors but just about everyone else who enjoys Halloween, old movies or the characters themselves if they were affordable priced from the get go. There is a reason why Frankenstein masks still do well almost 85 years after the movie came out.

Maybe if you were a billionaire you wouldn't hesitate to pay a cool million for a prime condition Strange bucket, but that certainly does not make them then suddenly worth a million, any more than the 500 bucks or more a dozen or less buckets have gone for just because a few are willing to pull that trigger. Those price reflects a few avariced crazed collectors/sellers artificially driving up the price online rather than what they could realistically fetch at fair market value. Just like Mortica and gomez auctioning their own finger trap for vast sums of money, no one else was going to drop in a bid once it got out of hand.
Old Batman comics go up and up in value because there are constant new fans being born every day that enjoy a stream of new Batman products, cartoons, films, and merch that got them to be Batman fans in the first place and when they reach adulthood maybe just maybe they want a old  thin paper book that originally sold for 10 cents that was printed before they were ever born and will pay a couple grand just for kicks because it is the first appearance of their favorite character, or maybe there are lots more just as avid fans who just buy the reprint because they wanted to read it/own that story at an affordable realistic non collector price.

It is just a plastic candy bucket, not an I-phone or laptop with all the bells and whistles. Seems to me the folks who say these are worth a fortune are the same ones who can agree on the latest or vintage paint splatter going for millions just because a big artist name is on the corner, better yet if he/she is dead and can't make any more. Just another chalice in your dragon's hoard that you couldn't really care about until someone else wants it for much cheaper than you paid.

By all accounts this isn't an ultra rare item and quite a few are safely staring out from collector's shelves or carefully packed away. Do you really think someone from the next generation will ever pay 3500 or more for a plastic Haunted hulk toy? even monster loving kids and their kids will realize it is just a piece of plastic eventually.
Who cares if there are rarer items that go for way more in the collector world? I am not a serious collector or a professional just someone who wants to enjoy something. My "rant" as you call It and your rebuttal is not the same as "pony up the dough for a Ferrari if you want one son," it is why in the world does a small cheaply made piece of plastic such as Mr. Bones coffin candy sometimes fetch 20 bucks at auction because of nostalgia alone when they should be repopping those things by the thousands so I can pass them out to the kiddies at Halloween and more than just the elite few who grew up with them or have money to waste can still enjoy them.

What I find truly funny is some of your hypocritical attitudes crying "No, don't repop the Strange bucket" but...if it is a Frank nodder Chinese cheap repop of an original item currently "worth" far more then go right ahead:

Quote from: neonnoodle on September 23, 2015, 07:24:19 AM
The Frankenstein looks like a complete resculpt.  Weird.

Quote from: Monster Bob on September 23, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
Like '59 Cadillacs, the Asians know what is cool, and decided to recreate one if the true classics of 1960s Monsterdom.

That item could and apparently did actually fool a collector. I am not asking for the Glen Strange bucket repops to be so good they could fool a collector, just I wish to own one and sadly the originals are ridiculously priced. I really wouldn't care if they were able to fool us and destroyed the current perceived vintage value. I would be delighted to finally own one at a reasonable price.

Thanks for the link I was unaware of the already long blazing argument over this.

Quote from: Hepcat on October 26, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
Not this again. We already had this discussion the last time a Frankenstein bucket was auctioned off on Ebay:
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28026.60 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28026.60)
Yes, you're right about the demographics. The premise behind thinking of these items as an investment is shaky indeed. But your point is also entirely irrelevant. You see I buy these items for me, for my own personal satisfaction, for the sentimental value I myself derive. I pay no more for a collectible than it's worth to me. I neither buy these items as an "investment", nor am I buying them for anyone else. So if their resale value plummets after I'm gone, it won't matter. Because I'll be dead!

But that is precisely my point, I would like to own it for just for me, not to resell or to raise the value of my collection but to simply enjoy it, I never plan on selling any of my collection either it is for me to enjoy period. So why should we now have to pay several hundred bucks for one because a few collectors decided they could blow that much in a convenient online auction war? It is just a piece of plastic. Repop that thing so other monster fans can enjoy it just like the Aurora models or the Don Post masks and new "monster kid" fans can feel it in their tiny hands with satisfaction when they ring the doorbell come Halloween, and let those who feel otherwise fill up their now not nearly worth as much vintage buckets with tears. If you truly just want it for your own enjoyment then you would never care if there are millions or just a few in existence as long as you got yours.


I love the James Bama Strange Frankenstein painting and if I had money to blow I would buy the original for whatever that thing is worth these days, why not? but I know that realistically I can't afford it in the real world and don't really need it either as much as I would love to own it, so I will make do with a print (repop) or a book with a photo in it (repop) or even a cereal poster at a much more reasonable price and don't begrudge the guy would couldn't even afford those and just has a Bama Frankenstein screensaver as the only way they can enjoy that image. I hope someone passes those prints out as monster prizes at some Halloween contest someday or proudly displays it with their decorations even though it will get ruined by tape and sun so more than a few crusty old collectors can actually enjoy the Frankenstein goodness in that image, like every kid that passes by with a lame candy bucket instead of a much cooler Strange Franky one.
I am not afraid to buy repop Beistle paper decorations either because I want to enjoy those Halloween images and style, I just don't think vintage cardpaper is worth hundreds of dollars no matter how much collectors are willing to pay for it.

It is just a plastic candy bucket guys, it really isn't worth 500 bucks to ANYONE even if some are still willing to pay that for it.

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 07:08:59 PMThose price reflects a few avariced crazed collectors/sellers artificially driving up the price online rather than what they could realistically fetch at fair market value.

Excuse me but there is no other way to accurately determine "fair market value" than through the mutually agreed prices at which transactions occur, and If "avariced crazed collectors/sellers" happen to be on one side of the transaction, well so be it. A buck is a buck is a buck in anybody's hands. That's how markets are made.

You on the other hand somehow believe that prices can and even should be determined from some ivory tower, specifically yours. Have you never heard the expression that "The only appraisal worth even the cost of the paper on which it's printed is the one to which a certified cheque is attached?"

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 07:08:59 PMIt is just a plastic candy bucket guys, it really isn't worth 500 bucks to ANYONE even if some are still willing to pay that for it.

Nonsense! If the bucket wasn't worth $500 to the people paying $500, they wouldn't be paying that much for it. What you're doing is assuming that your own utility preferences must be universally shared. Well they're not.

???

Quote from: jimm on October 26, 2015, 06:14:57 PMDon't think it's about what the next generation does with our stuff... It's about enjoying it in our time...

Precisely!

8)

good thing this collectors pricing "no repops it would ruin the vintage value" mentality didn't include the films themselves or there would be 20 guys who could watch a coveted very expensive collector's only Frankenstein original copy on a old reel projector and the rest of the world would have never heard of any Universal's Frankenstein films outside of serious film students. But saner heads of course prevailed and you can get a copy of that vintage movie that came out 84 years ago for about the same price as a burger, in many retail stores today. There wouldn't be any monster fans or monster collectors alive today without "repops and re-airing" of old vintage stuff and a trickle current new UM merchandise with those likenesses, none of you were born in 1931.

Quote from: Hepcat on October 26, 2015, 07:50:30 PM
Nonsense! If the bucket wasn't worth $500 to the people paying $500, they wouldn't be paying that much for it. What you're doing is assuming that your own utility preferences must be universally shared. Well they're not.

???

Truth.

People pay it, so... it's worth it (and in some cases more like $600-$800). And, I'm one of the cheap bastards still waiting to find one for a bargain price (not holding my breath on that one  :laugh:).

Oh, and I'm in favor of cheap repops.. would love to have one. And, also cheap versions of all the UniMons and HammerMons candy buckets in the style of the Clinton Glenn Strange Candy Bucket.  ;)

I enjoy alot of this stuff from afar.... Don't have to own it all, can't for plenty reasons. Glad my crew here likes to share.

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Quote from: Hepcat on October 26, 2015, 07:50:30 PM
Nonsense! If the bucket wasn't worth $500 to the people paying $500, they wouldn't be paying that much for it. What you're doing is assuming that your own utility preferences must be universally shared. Well they're not.

???

Nonsense?
Listen to yourself...
500 dollars for a candy bucket
500 dollars isn't worth 500 dollars to the people who pay that much, they can afford not to care apparently or are willing to at least blow it and risk the fallout with spouses and budgets if they can't afford it. It isn't about the money a few pay it is about the money anyone would pay. 31 interested people haven't dropped the 500 even though every one of them would dearly love to have it in the current buy it now...


I can see how your fire insurance claim argument went, "but it's vintage" "but there aren't that many left in good condition"
insurance agent: It's a plastic candy bucket.
"But it has a movie character likeness!" "But I think it is really cool and nostalgic!" "But it is important to me!"
insurance agent: It was made as a disposable non collectible item for kids on Halloween, there are plenty left in circulation if you really wanted one by your own admission, shall we say 75 bucks generously considering it's age?

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 08:05:18 PMNonsense?
Listen to yourself...
500 dollars for a candy bucket

Yes, listen. I'm saying listen to the market That's where and how prices are determined.

You on the other hand are saying "Listen to me. I know better". Well you don't. The only opinions that count with respect to pricing are those of the market participants. As they say "Money talks. Bull.... walks."

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 08:05:18 PM500 dollars isn't worth 500 dollars to the people who pay that much, they can afford not to care apparently or are willing to at least blow it and risk the fallout with spouses and budgets if they can't afford it. It isn't about the money a few pay it is about the money anyone would pay.

No! You are very, very wrong. It's clear and obvious now that you've never taken even a first year Economics course. Prices are not set by average supply and demand. Prices are set at the margin, meaning by incremental supply and demand.

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 08:05:18 PMI can see how your fire insurance claim argument went, "but it's vintage" "but there aren't that many left in good condition"
insurance agent: It's a plastic candy bucket.
"But it has a movie character likeness!" "But I think it is really cool and nostalgic!" "But it is important to me!"
insurance agent: It was made as a disposable non collectible item for kids on Halloween, there are plenty left in circulation if you really wanted one by your own admission, shall we say 75 bucks generously considering it's age?

Irrelevant. It's the job of insurance adjusters to pay as little as they can get away with. If the insurance policy specifies replacement value, then the insurance company will if its feet are held to the fire in court have to pay replacement value as determined by the transactions in the open market at which you've been sneering.

cl:)

well then, let's have everyone list what they actually bought theirs for and/or what they are willing to pay for one (apparently it is not 500 samolians as the current bin is still up)
put your money where your mouth is so to speak...

I personally might spend $200 but even that seems very much like grandiose exorbitance considering the current market value of  the Glen Strange speakers is 75 bucks according to the open market... ;) at least that is what they are going for these days

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 08:41:07 PMwell then, let's have everyone list what they actually bought theirs for and/or what they are willing to pay for one (apparently it is not 500 samolians as the current bin is still up)
put your money where your mouth is so to speak...

You're ignoring what I (and economics professors) say about prices being determined at the margin. What this means is that the next transaction will occur between the highest bidder and the lowest seller, or else it won't occur at all. That's how prices are set, not by the average but at the margin, i.e. the extreme. Think about it. Why would any buyer buy from anyone but the lowest seller, and why would anyone sell but to the highest buyer?

Like I say, read the Economics text.

cl:)

Ravenloft, I'm not going to pretend I read your second and very, very long, l o o o n g post. I read a few words, and then let my imagine fill in the rest.

On the subject of the $500 bucket that nobody has bought, I can tell you why I don't want it. The handle is wonky. It has a crack in it. If I were going to buy one, I'd want a mint handle. Also, I suspect the paint wear on the nose bothers some people. The third problem is that it is a Buy It Now auction. Bidders hate those, unless the price is cheap. If this bucket were offered in a real auction with a $1 opening bid and no reserve, it would stand a good chance of hitting $500. It might go for more or less. But the seller doesn't want to take a chance. Buyers know that and resent it. As a buyer, I feel like BIN items should be priced to sell. Otherwise, why list it? At least add a "make offer" so there is some room for give and take. It is part of the culture of the hobby. The high BIN is out of step with that culture, and you can see the results. A lot of what happens on ebay has more to do with psychology than math or empirical data.

Wow, oh PLEASE, Not Again!!??  The way this particular subject  has "evolved" with this forum is quite interesting. But, honestly, enough is enough. Ravenloft, I really just can't figure you out, with your meaningless posts (in my opinion), on one hand you state just how "lowly" this "piece of cheap plastic" is to you, but, you then bring this piece back up (to where it should be) as to how great it is!!??  I really need to ask, just how old are you anyway? I only ask this, because you seem to have a very "dim" view on life. And, you're quite the "crybaby". Sure, the older generation will die out, but, my friend (not), remember this, young people die just as easily as older people. You mentioned in one of your "rants" about the collectability of Universal Monsters fading away, I beg to differ!! Then just what the heck are you doing here, anyway??  As I previously mentioned in one of my posts on this never-ending subject, I guess then if you had one for sale, you would let it go cheap, RIGHT??  WRONG!!  Sure, the item isn't really rare, BUT, it is extremely popular!! If you won't pay the price, well then, unless you're lucky, you won't own one, stop damning people who actually buy them at current market values! Who the heck do you think you are, anyway??  To use one of your Very Stupid phrases, Whoop-tee-doo to you too, PAL!!!

Just because something sells for a high price doesnt necessarily mean the person is happy paying that price for it, and in most cases can/will resist. I love the Remco Universal Monsters 8 inch figures. Never in a million years will I pay what the price for MIB examples fetch. So--I admire from afar.


But  there are exceptions based on one's nostalgia or love for a product. I really wanted a few things I have recently acquired for my collection. I overpaid waaaay too much for them. I knew that when I bought them--- that they were madly overpriced. But a complete mint set was just sitting there. The nostaliga factor kicked it, and I snagged them before I even thought it out.

Ultimately the nostalgia factor and one's income determines what something is "worth" to them. To paraphrase Lance Shroeder regarding Vincent price's character from House on Haunted Hill: "$10,000.00 is no more to him than a nickel is to us". Disposable income is a factor. Once someone with a lot of it drops it on a favorite sought after item....It kind of sets the asking price others will expect to receive.

But just because someone on ebay paid $1,600.00 for a DD Lee Dracula mego doesnt mean it will get that every time. As has been proven in auctions that have occurred since. Supply, demand, the economic scare of the day, the weather, whatever.....things go up. Things go down. If I had the disposable income in spades, who's to say what I might pay for something that's ridiculous in anothers eyes.

That being said: a cheaply made Lon Chaney Jr. accurate Wolfman Halloween bucket would top my immediate want list,lol.

Anton, very true.  Many times I've "over-spent" on items that I really wanted, but I figured if I don't get it now, I may not see another for quite some time, this is where the true "collectability" factor really comes into play. You can associate this way of thinking with almost anything that people collect. Be it old classic cars, coins, stamps,antique furniture,toys, art, or anything that someone is passionate about. And, there is the "key" word here, being passionate about what one collects. It is the "passion" that keeps collecting alive. I, for one, enjoy collecting, I'll always be amazed at what other people are willing to pay for their passion,even myself.

Quote from: raycastile on October 27, 2015, 01:20:02 AMThe third problem is that it is a Buy It Now auction. Bidders hate those, unless the price is cheap. If this bucket were offered in a real auction with a $1 opening bid and no reserve, it would stand a good chance of hitting $500. It might go for more or less. But the seller doesn't want to take a chance. Buyers know that and resent it. As a buyer, I feel like BIN items should be priced to sell. Otherwise, why list it?

Truth!

:)

Quote from: Anton Phibes on October 27, 2015, 11:17:19 AM
Just because something sells for a high price doesnt necessarily mean the person is happy paying that price for it, and in most cases can/will resist. I love the Remco Universal Monsters 8 inch figures. Never in a million years will I pay what the price for MIB examples fetch. So--I admire from afar.


But  there are exceptions based on one's nostalgia or love for a product. I really wanted a few things I have recently acquired for my collection. I overpaid waaaay too much for them. I knew that when I bought them--- that they were madly overpriced. But a complete mint set was just sitting there. The nostaliga factor kicked it, and I snagged them before I even thought it out.

Ultimately the nostalgia factor and one's income determines what something is "worth" to them. To paraphrase Lance Shroeder regarding Vincent price's character from House on Haunted Hill: "$10,000.00 is no more to him than a nickel is to us". Disposable income is a factor. Once someone with a lot of it drops it on a favorite sought after item....It kind of sets the asking price others will expect to receive.

But just because someone on ebay paid $1,600.00 for a DD Lee Dracula mego doesnt mean it will get that every time. As has been proven in auctions that have occurred since. Supply, demand, the economic scare of the day, the weather, whatever.....things go up. Things go down. If I had the disposable income in spades, who's to say what I might pay for something that's ridiculous in anothers eyes.

That being said: a cheaply made Lon Chaney Jr. accurate Wolfman Halloween bucket would top my immediate want list,lol.

Someone gets the gist of my argument. Thank you sir.
The point being a few "had to have" impulse buyers in a few auctions managed to drive the pricing up way past the point of believably  to the point where even the buyer themselves feels foolish for having paid it (even if they won't admit it), but must have it at any cost. They then assuage their shame with excuses such as well I can make that much in a paycheck or two no big deal, or spend that much on a plane ticket or whatever anyway, or that is the price I was willing to pay because I may never get another chance...
Overspent indeed.

But when thought through rationally compare 500-800 dollars of practically any other goods or services and think if that is truly the value of a plastic trick or treat bucket. that is 4 brand new tires, or groceries for your family for a month, for what? a plastic novelty bucket. Yes we no longer live in a barter system of old, but value is value. It is a truly awesome plastic novelty but not worth near as much as some few are willing to give up for it, unless the very value of their money has no meaning anymore; either from excess or perhaps the chill winds of mortality or impish desire to leave not a dime unspent by the time the greedy kids are picking through the will, or from judging from the comments here some perverse badge of inclusion in the I paid a month or two's groceries worth for a random monster collectible that I never actually owned as a kid (hence with little sentimental value) just because I coveted it and I can club.

Still waiting to hear what people actually paid for theirs or would pay to own one, that is if you are not ashamed of your impulse overpayment and willing to admit my point. Or perhaps you are one of the lucky few who grabbed one at a flea market or thrift shop and want to brag...

Quote from: raycastile on October 27, 2015, 01:20:02 AM
Ravenloft, I'm not going to pretend I read your second and very, very long, l o o o n g post. I read a few words, and then let my imagine fill in the rest.

What kind of vainglorious attitude is that? You come to a forum to read posts about subjects you are interested in, but then lack the attention span to actually read the posts especially if they differ of opinion? You are one of those wait your turn to speak instead of actually listening in a discussion people aren't you? Get over yourself.

Quote from: ravenloft on October 26, 2015, 07:08:59 PMOld Batman comics go up and up in value because there are constant new fans being born every day that enjoy a stream of new Batman products, cartoons, films, and merch that got them to be Batman fans in the first place and when they reach adulthood maybe just maybe they want a old  thin paper book that originally sold for 10 cents that was printed before they were ever born and will pay a couple grand just for kicks because it is the first appearance of their favorite character....

A couple grand? You realize of course that a pristine copy of Action Comics 1 just sold for over $3MM?  I'm guessing that an equally pristine copy of Batman's first appearance in Detective Comics 27 would fetch a similar price today. And those comics were both printed on very cheap paper.

Quote from: ravenloft on October 27, 2015, 01:44:12 PMBut when thought through rationally compare 500-800 dollars of practically any other goods or services and think if that is truly the value of a plastic trick or treat bucket. that is 4 brand new tires, or groceries for your family for a month, for what? a plastic novelty bucket.

Good thing you inserted the qualifier "practically". Many people would just buy booze, drugs or cigarettes with the money. Then they'd have no Frankenstein bucket, but fewer brain cells and more cancer causing tar in their lungs! What a deal, eh?

Quote from: ravenloft on October 27, 2015, 01:44:12 PMSomeone gets the gist of my argument.

I get the gist of your argument. You've determined from first principles that a Frankenstein bucket "should" only fetch whatever because intrinsically it's just a cheap piece of plastic.

Well intrinsically the most valuable commodity out there is the air that we breathe, yet it's free because the supply is for all intents and purposes unlimited. However you go right ahead and try selling this priceless air commodity for its "true" value which should given its  utility fetch $millions.

Secondly, it seems that the people selling these Frankenstein buckets on occasion are willing to accept a few little green pieces of paper with pictures of dead white men on them. They must be crazy! What they're getting for their big colourful plastic buckets are just little pieces of paper with really uninteresting graphics!

;)

I never got into Monster stuff for the "value" of it. It was relatively cheap when I started re-collecting. I looked for what I wanted- stuff I had as a kid, or stuff I wanted as a kid.

There was a strong interest and a strong Vintage Monster Market 30 years ago. It is still getting stronger, not weaker. The fluctuations in price for a particular piece (like the bucket) are just supply and demand.

Toy auction values in any specific genre historically peak when those interested are in the 60-80 year old range...mechanical banks, old Disney, trains come to mind. Seniors have got extra money and want to recapture their childhood. Now, I am one of youngest "baby boomer Monster Persons", I guess- I am in my 50s. I believe the really great stuff has not peaked yet, and the middle stuff, like this bucket, will continue to slowly climb in $$$.


A little history. I got into the genre originally at 4 years old, and knew who Forry Ackerman was by the time I was 7. I collected this shat as a kid, and began recollecting in about 1978.

Once collecting fully kicked in, I paid what I had to pay for 1960s stuff. The sixties Monster toys were good THEN (I was buying and selling these bucket heads 20-25 years ago for $150-$250, and was called crazy by many, even at the time). Proved to be a good investment, though in my case, somewhat accidentally.

There is a concrete, real market/dollar value to the buckets and speakers of the world. And that's that.

Hi Bob.  Exactly--I too never got into collecting "monster stuff" for the value of it, it was all about the great memories that came rushing back from a time pretty long ago that you wish you could go back to, at least it's that way for me. I started real collecting of these items around 1984, or 85, and was just quietly picking things up a few years earlier than this when I would see them, such as an occasional Aurora kit or 2, or an early FM magazine. It was never about "investing", although in actuality, many of those pieces turned out to be real bargains. It's not our fault that this "Ravenloft" fella maybe wasn't collecting back then, but he seems to be trying now, and he's very frustrated because he's in the "now" times of trying to purchase these items at what they are actually now bringing, and he doesn't like it. Well, thats just the way it is. It's also not our fault that he doesn't have the money, so, here again Ravenloft, DROP IT ALREADY!!! If you want to buy your tires, by all means, buy them, if you want to buy your groceries, then by all means, buy them. All of us here buy these items too, you know, why even compare?? You should never give up paying for tires, groceries, or whatever you need on a daily basis to live or survive anyway, so are you really telling us that That's what you'd have to do to purchase this bucket?? If the answer is yes, then be satisfied with what you have, and stop making stupid statements about the prices of things and putting people down for actually buying.

Incidentally---not all buyers hate BINs. If they are reasonable BINs I like them. Because I hate bidding wars. I also feel there could be some shill bidder running up the price for their buddy.

Quote from: Monster Bob on October 27, 2015, 03:47:41 PM

I never got into Monster stuff for the "value" of it. It was relatively cheap when I started re-collecting. I looked for what I wanted- stuff I had as a kid, or stuff I wanted as a kid.
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There is a concrete, real market/dollar value to the buckets and speakers of the world. And that's that.

You make several very valid points Bob, and really that is why any of us collect nick knacks and doo-dads, be it monsters or Disneyana, blue china or whatever.
There is no question that several buckets have sold for vast sums of money and likely will continue to do so, I concede the point about "value."
But for how long?

Of course to a collector, their treasures are always priceless, who wouldn't be hard pressed not to rush into a burning house to save something you truly cherish? Money is never meant to be kept, rather it is designed to spend, it's value is only what it can purchase so we subconsciously see it as a means to our true objectives, it really has less value than the goods purchased with it.


My main point, was never to detract from those lucky enough to get one at a fair deal or even point a finger of derision at those crazy enough to get one at any cost no matter how high, but rather simply state with amazement how something so relatively insignificant, a plastic child's toy, could command prices comparable to gold or jewelry, it truly is mania. The very concept is an intellectual anathema. And as others have pointed out previously I picked the least valuable monster collector commodity out there relatively speaking, there are many more Monster items "worth" far more these days.

I feel that the phenomena is limited by several factors and will not last however, obviously time being the most important in any discussion of old or vintage items (not quite old enough to be considered antiques yet.)

The fact that a few seem to have taken personal umbrage in a harmless discussion to the point of ad hominem attacks seems to illustrate that I am close to the mark, as that old adage states "truth hurts." Oh well, that is the internet folks.

No, it's not mania, it's called collecting. Your quote-"a piece of plastic worth more than gold or jewelry", why then are certain stamps (printed on a very small piece of paper) worth thousands, why are certain copper coins (a base metal compared to gold or silver) worth mega-bucks, furniture (made from wood), or 50's furniture (made from plastics), or glassware worth so much money??  You know NOT what you speak!! And, your main point sure was absolutely to detract from those buying these monster items at the now "fair market value". As far as "personal umbrage", you're obviously very "thin-skinned" in my opinion. Yes Ravenloft, "truth hurts"!!!

Quote from: ravenloft on October 27, 2015, 06:57:20 PM...could command prices comparable to gold or jewelry....

You unwittingly hit upon a horrible example. Were it not for the speculative demand, i.e. the bubble element, gold would fetch but a tiny fraction of the price at which it trades. Only a small portion of the gold that's produced every year actually gets used up in electronics and dentistry. For example, looking at the numbers for 2014 in tonnes:

Mine Production 3114.4
Recycled Jewellery & Electronics 1121.7
Total 4236.1

Jewellery Production 2153
Electronic & Dental Usage 389
Coins & Bars 1064
Total 3606

The difference is just hoarded by investors/speculators. As a result there exists a growing hoard of gold in inventory that can flood the market at any time.

Worse yet much or most of what's classified as "consumption" isn't actually consumed. Some of the electronic use is eventually recaptured. Some of the jewellery also ends up being recycled when grandma dies and her grand daughters don't care for her baubles. While the coins sold as collectors' items basically never get melted down again, bullion coins and bars are just inventory that can end up back on the market at anytime.

Since only the tiniest portion of annual production is used up or lost for good, almost all the gold that's ever been mined is still with us today. A total of about 177,500 tonnes exists on the surface in some form or other. Compare that figure to the 3606 tonnes consumed (well sort of) in 2014.

Like I say, to me the present price of gold looks to have a big bubble element.

:-\

I have owned three of these buckets, and still have the first one I bought about 25 years ago for a whopping $75 at a time I could ill afford it.  I was not aware at that time of the Frankenbucket, but I had and still have many plastic Halloween items; as soon as I saw that Frankenbucket in the window of a comic book store, I went to an ATM for cash and bought it.  I still think it is one of the coolest monster/ Halloween items. 

Buying and selling toys and Halloween for many years, I've learned that collectible items typically have no intrinsic value.  But, it is NOT about what something is made of, but, ...
WHAT IS IT? 

Quote from: Allhallowsday on October 28, 2015, 02:09:33 PM

Buying and selling toys and Halloween for many years, I've learned that collectible items typically have no intrinsic value.  But, it is NOT about what something is made of, but, ...
WHAT IS IT? 

It's all about individual aesthetics...what looks best on that empty spot on my shelf, next to that other cool collectible. That would be my guess.

Quote from: Allhallowsday on October 28, 2015, 02:09:33 PM
I've learned that collectible items typically have no intrinsic value.  But, it is NOT about what something is made of, but, ...
WHAT IS IT? 

Like the real value of anything, it is perceived value. Perception is reality concerning something subjective like item value. Items attain this perceived value over time due to many different factors in general: the time period when something was made, popularity of item type, quality, scarcity, and several more factors individual to the buyer such as personal taste and "did I have it/want it as a child".

The older an item is the longer it's had to get pushed up in value due to supply and demand. This happens incrementally over time. Since the marketplace is much better known now thanks to the internet, and especially eBay, these values have been burned into people's minds more than any pre-internet price guide could ever do. Sure, eBay can be a cauldron of chaos, but usually those market values are reinforced there. If something desirable is priced too low then some dealer(s) with saved searches will bid it up to sell later at a profit. That's the active market in action. Sometimes something nice goes under the radar if not listed properly, but usually someone spots it and if it's an auction it gets bid up. Buy It Nows are where an unknowledgeable seller can really get screwed because it can be immediately swept away without that natural market interplay to force a somewhat fair selling price.

Many of the most valuable items most of us are concerned with were made in the late '50s through the mid '70s during the childhood years of most Monsterkids. Those items have that style and pedigree that makes most of them desirable to collectors. Many later items are desirable to collectors because of high quality, such as some items by Sideshow and Neca. The most important value dictating factor to the individual buyer is personal taste, but most people would buy something desirable priced at a small fraction of it's market value and resell it for a profit. So, the market value of an item is reinforced whether it's bought to keep or sell.

Quote from: horrorhunter on November 01, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Like the real value of anything, it is perceived value. Perception is reality concerning something subjective like item value. Items attain this perceived value over time due to many different factors in general: the time period when something was made, popularity of item type, quality, scarcity, and several more factors individual to the buyer such as personal taste and "did I have it/want it as a child".

The older an item is the longer it's had to get pushed up in value due to supply and demand. This happens incrementally over time. Since the marketplace is much better known now thanks to the internet, and especially eBay, these values have been burned into people's minds more than any pre-internet price guide could ever do. Sure, eBay can be a cauldron of chaos, but usually those market values are reinforced there. If something desirable is priced too low then some dealer(s) with saved searches will bid it up to sell later at a profit. That's the active market in action. Sometimes something nice goes under the radar if not listed properly, but usually someone spots it and if it's an auction it gets bid up. Buy It Nows are where an unknowledgeable seller can really get screwed because it can be immediately swept away without that natural market interplay to force a somewhat fair selling price.
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eBay has fortified prices for some items, like vintage monster toys.  eBay has also destroyed pricing in many other categories; availability, or lack there of, changed prices a lot. 

Exactly.  E-bay, has, sort of, "fortified" prices for many items, I wonder if that last recent bucket head was bought, or if the seller took it off. This is why I said in a previous reply that if anyone thinks it is too high a price to pay, if they had one for sale, just how cheap would they let their's go?? No question they too would be looking for near top dollar.  These prices are here because people were and are willing to pay those prices, otherwise, things wouldn't get sold. Actually, I just lost out on quite a few monster items, prices went through the roof!!

Depending on your point of view as seller or collector, ebay has helped and destroyed the market on various items. Case in point, vintage cameras. The bottom dropped out of that market when ebay came around. It sucks for sellers, but is great for buyers.

I see unmarked items at swap meets, flea markets, and even yard sales, and when the question is asked "How much?" The answer is often "It's going for ____on ebay."  My reply is always: "Then why haven't you listed it there?". Bottom line: you can put any inflated asking price you want on an item. If people think its too high....then it is. To them. 8)

Even green in completed auctions can be bogus. Someone can easily put $900.00 on a DST Metaluna Mutant and have a buddy shill BIN it. Never pay. Then a non paying bidder complaint be filed so no fees are paid. All anyone sees is a green $900.00 ended listing. Suddenly everyone thinks a DST Metaluna Mutant is worth $900.00.

Its a little far fetched sounding....but the market on things can be manipulated this way, whether we choose to believe it or not. :angel: :angel:

Very true. I always hate that some dealers answer your question by pulling out their phone and looking it up on ebay.

Those shill bidding shenanigans are probably not very common, and would have little effect on the perceived value of an item. Just because one or two items sell for a ridiculous amount doesn't translate to real value for most people. It's like that DD Mego-style Dracula selling for that lightning strikes you price of $1500 or whatever (if that even went through). I don't think anyone actually believes one is worth that as fair market value. They seem to consistently sell for around a third of that or maybe a little more, so the real value is probably around $500-$600. We always hear about these shill bidding schemes, but I haven't seen any proof that this is a widespread problem. The vast majority of the time the active marketplace decides the value of an item due to the perception of what it's worth. It's just people buying and selling, with very little Machiavellian antics afoot.

It was just about 2 or 3 weeks ago, I was bidding on some Halloween items on e-bay, the person that had the items lived actually close to me I found out. The items were set to go off on a Sunday. So, before I left the house that early Sunday, I put in my top bids, almost knowing I'd win. Well, later that night when I arrived home, and checked my bids, I found out I'd lost to all the items with him by the next bid. The next day, I get an e-mail from the seller, saying that the high bidder e-mailed him saying that she had other bills to pay,and couldn't go through with her bids. I e-mailed him back with my phone #, so he could call, he did. But, he didn't accept my under-bid. He actually had the pieces up at Renningers outside, looking for better money. He was set up with a table there. Long story short, he was probably shilling his auctions, and he admitted to me on the phone when I called him, he was looking for more money for the items, he thought they were worth much more. All I wanted to do at that point was to just slug this jerk, I'm sure there's a lot of crap going on with e-bay.

Quote from: horrorhunter on November 04, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
It's like that DD Mego-style Dracula selling for that lightning strikes you price of $1500 or whatever (if that even went through). I don't think anyone actually believes one is worth that as fair market value. .......It's just people buying and selling, with very little Machiavellian antics afoot.

HH---That DD Dracula did sell/go through for that much. The fella who bought it thinks its worth that much should he re-sell it. It turns out its the same dude that I got my 2 Peter Cushing DD's from on the secondary market. I asked if he had Dracula and Frankenstein, and he said he did. But he wanted 1500.00 each for them. Because thats what he paid for them. Obviously he wasnt going to get that kind of cash from me. Maybe not from anyone.


I would love to believe ebay was just people buying and selling.....but unfortunately I know better. I have a couple of acquaintances who do nothing but run one another's auctions up. Ebay's never caught on to their antics, and I wouldn't buy anything from either of them if my life depended on it. Especially not in auction format. So this craziness is out there in operation. :'(

Quote from: Anton Phibes on November 05, 2015, 09:02:46 AM
I would love to believe ebay was just people buying and selling.....but unfortunately I know better. I have a couple of acquaintances who do nothing but run one another's auctions up. Ebay's never caught on to their antics, and I wouldn't buy anything from either of them if my life depended on it. Especially not in auction format. So this craziness is out there in operation. :'(

I'm sure it happens, but I believe it's sensationalized and it doesn't have that much impact on established values. Most buyers ignore ridiculous extremes and just wait for a reasonable deal. I draw the line on what I'll pay for an item regardless of silly bids or asking prices, and I believe most people do the same.

For most items it takes years of trading to establish real values. Those DD figures are exceptions because of extreme scarcity. If DD started ignoring their self-imposed low production runs and reissuing everything you would see that change. DD reissues have been brought up in other threads but I don't think Martin will sell out and do that. It would hurt DD in the long run and he knows that.

Quote from: Anton Phibes on November 05, 2015, 09:02:46 AM
HH---That DD Dracula did sell/go through for that much. The fella who bought it thinks its worth that much should he re-sell it. It turns out its the same dude that I got my 2 Peter Cushing DD's from on the secondary market. I asked if he had Dracula and Frankenstein, and he said he did. But he wanted 1500.00 each for them. Because thats what he paid for them. Obviously he wasnt going to get that kind of cash from me. Maybe not from anyone.

I've kept an eye on those DD Hammer Mego-styles market activity and from what I can tell the retail on them should be as follows:
     Dracula          $500-$600
     Frankenstein   $400-$500
     Werewolf        $400-$500
     Mummy          $200-$300
     Either Cushing $150-$200
     Any 2nd Series $100-$150

These are just guestimates, of course, but if I needed any of them I certainly wouldn't pay any more than those prices. IMO that guy that paid $1500 for Dracula got screwed about $1000 worth and probably didn't even get kissed afterward. Most DD figures are good investments but nothing is the magical pot of gold at rainbow's end. To be quite honest it's hard to get more than 200 bucks out of me for anything anymore. I'm just glad I bought those DD Hammers when they first came out because otherwise I would probably never own them.

How do you see the current values on some of those DD figures, Anton?

???

Yeah, yeah, I know.. straying off topic again. But really, how much can you say about a candy bucket?

Id say those estimates are pretty accurate. Lets just say its a really good idea to get em when they are first released. Because even if you are able to find them on the secondary market....someone might throw the candlesticks away,lol. :angel:

Quote from: John Pertwee on November 04, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
Depending on your point of view as seller or collector, ebay has helped and destroyed the market on various items. Case in point, vintage cameras. The bottom dropped out of that market when ebay came around. It sucks for sellers, but is great for buyers.

The popularity of digital Cameras may have also hurt.  It's so easy to use the new cameras, and it's getting more difficult to find photolabs, that can develop pictures taken with the more old fashioned cameras.

Not to mention finding flashcubes or film for the old fashioned cameras. Just try to find 110 film these days.

:(

Quote from: Anton Phibes on November 05, 2015, 01:14:52 PM
Id say those estimates are pretty accurate. Lets just say its a really good idea to get em when they are first released. Because even if you are able to find them on the secondary market....someone might throw the candlesticks away,lol. :angel:

Any word on the candlesticks? Martin couldn't help you?

He did have a set in the parts bin that were already painted. Its a good thing he over produces breakable (or in this case disposable) items in case of loss/damage. I should get them soon. Yeah!!!~ 8)

Quote from: skully on November 05, 2015, 01:07:25 AMIt was just about 2 or 3 weeks ago, I was bidding on some Halloween items on e-bay, the person that had the items lived actually close to me I found out. The items were set to go off on a Sunday. So, before I left the house that early Sunday, I put in my top bids, almost knowing I'd win. Well, later that night when I arrived home, and checked my bids, I found out I'd lost to all the items with him by the next bid. The next day, I get an e-mail from the seller, saying that the high bidder e-mailed him saying that she had other bills to pay,and couldn't go through with her bids. I e-mailed him back with my phone #, so he could call, he did. But, he didn't accept my under-bid. He actually had the pieces up at Renningers outside, looking for better money. He was set up with a table there. Long story short, he was probably shilling his auctions, and he admitted to me on the phone when I called him, he was looking for more money for the items, he thought they were worth much more. All I wanted to do at that point was to just slug this jerk, I'm sure there's a lot of crap going on with e-bay.

The nerve of the guy! I wish you had slugged him.

I've just very rudely said "No" when asked after an auction whether I'm willing to pay my maximum bid because the top bidder backed out. The bastards have no business knowing what my maximum bid was, and I'm not willing to be scammed.

>:(

Hi Hepcat!!  Yea, maybe I should have!!  It's something that I'd NEVER do if I were ever to be a seller on e-bay. Honestly, to me right now, it's no real big deal, I do check his auctions every Sunday night, because that's when he puts on his new items, but, I'll never, EVER, bid on anything of his again!! If you want more info, send me an e-mail.

Quote from: Ghost on December 20, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
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Clinton Plastics made
1. Glenn Strange Candy bucket for trick or treating large hole on top strap riveted on sometimes inside or outside.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/HALLOWEENMONSTERCOVERTEST02sz_zps3ddf90e4.jpg)...

:laugh:
This pic was taken by me... I kept the one on the left.  A member of this forum owns the one on the right.  They both have "popped" straps that are not torn and could be reinserted onto the grommets with patience, a steady hand, and good eyesight. 

*still holding my breath*

does anyone have one of these babies for sale?

PM me

Quote from: Count Zero on January 03, 2017, 01:58:43 PM
*still holding my breath*

That never works. You just pass out and then you start breathing again.

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There was just one on eBay. It just sold. Probably won't find one for cheaper than that but it did have a hole in the back... still a nice one!

$350? With a hole in the back?

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well, ever since i picked up that franky bucket ive been trying to locate a period photograph of a kid holding one while trick or treating.

in my search, i came across this photo

(https://i.imgflip.com/1k5x79.jpg)

(https://i.imgflip.com/1k5xab.jpg)

is that the Clinton Skull Bat?

(https://i.imgflip.com/1k5wue.jpg)

not my bat... im still hunting for one.

Speaking of weird blow mold skull bats...does anyone know anything about the one in the pic below (brown/sepia, toward the front, laying on it's side)?

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/hwfozt.jpg)

Quote from: Count Zero on February 22, 2017, 08:11:22 PM
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is that the Clinton Skull Bat?
(https://i.imgflip.com/1k5wue.jpg)
not my bat... im still hunting for one.

Yes.  I sold mine at a flea market 3 or 4 years ago...  :(  Great piece, and marked. 

Quote from: horrorhunter on February 22, 2017, 08:47:01 PM
Speaking of weird blow mold skull bats...does anyone know anything about the one in the pic below (brown/sepia, toward the front, laying on it's side)?

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/hwfozt.jpg)

If its the same one I have, I got one from The Spirit Store a few years back. Mine is made of that light Styrofoam material though, not plastic. Pretty cool club!

Quote from: scarey1scd on February 23, 2017, 07:03:06 PM
If its the same one I have, I got one from The Spirit Store a few years back. Mine is made of that light Styrofoam material though, not plastic. Pretty cool club!

Thanks, scarey.

This one is old school blow mold plastic. The handle looks like a bone and the rest of the club is a mass of small skulls. I suppose it could be a Halloween prop from a seasonal store like Spirit but it reminds me more of a vintage '60s item that came with other pieces like maybe a ball. When I was a wee brat in the early '60s my parents bought me a Flintstones playset with a blow mold plastic wood-looking club (bat) and plastic rock-looking ball that was supposed to be the Bedrock equivalent of a baseball set. This skull club reminds me of that. There are no markings and I can't find out anything about it. The eBay seller I bought it from knew nothing about it either.  :-\

Quote from: John Pertwee on January 09, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
$350? With a hole in the back?

If you just want a piece to keep on your shelf, I can think of worse things than a hole which probably won't be that noticeable if displayed in a collection.  I'd be satisfied someday to be able to afford a Haunted Hulk that was less then perfect.