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Title: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: The Creeper on March 04, 2012, 03:21:27 AM
I am watching Batman on the Hub and John Astin is the Riddler in the episodes: Batman's Anniversary and A Riddling Controversy which is the conclusion to the other episode.  I never knew he played the Riddler!  Always thought Frank Gorshin always played him.  Did anyone else know this or am I the only one?
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: depressedlarrytalbot on March 04, 2012, 03:54:58 AM
Yeah that's right. Much as I love Astin, Gorshin owned The Riddler.  This happened several times in the series. Julie Newmar/Catwoman became Eartha Kitt [and Lee Meriwether if you count the feature film] while George Sanders/Mr Freeze became Eli Wallach and  Otto Preminger. Even as a kid, I found this sort of stuff distracting outside of DR WHO.
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: Paul L on March 04, 2012, 09:31:39 AM
Major Bat-fan here. I loved seeing John Astin on the series, but he shoulda been given his own villain. Maurice Evans' The Puzzler, 2nd Bat-season, also was intended to be a Riddler episode.
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: jimm on March 04, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
Too bad they didn't use Two-Face' character in the series
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: Monster Bob on March 04, 2012, 11:23:17 AM

I agree with you guys that John Astin should have been given his own character. Being biased, one that was a little creepy/kooky would have been cool-The Creeper, The Ghoul, etc. He is such a great actor, he could have "owned" anything. Unfortunately, Frank Gorshin defined the Riddler, and was an impossible act to follow. I had trouble with Nicholson's Joker in '89 because Caesar Romero was so imbedded in my head. He was an incredible Joker.
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: Pauspy on March 04, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
I agree that no-one could beat Frank Gorshin as The Riddler, but John Astin did a very credible job. 
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: lblambert on March 04, 2012, 12:25:42 PM
John Astin did a great job as the Riddler, even though he only filled in 2 episodes while Frank Gorshin was involved in a contract dispute. I really would have liked seeing Astin have his own character, especially in one of the episodes with Carolyn Jones playing the Queen of Diamonds. 
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: The Creeper on March 04, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: lblambert on March 04, 2012, 12:25:42 PM
John Astin did a great job as the Riddler, even though he only filled in 2 episodes while Frank Gorshin was involved in a contract dispute. I really would have liked seeing Astin have his own character, especially in one of the episodes with Carolyn Jones playing the Queen of Diamonds.
I agree that would have been great! 
Title: Re: John Astin as the Riddler?
Post by: Count_Zirock on March 04, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
Astin was happy to take on The Riddler because his kids were huge fans of the show. That's why many celebs did "Batman," so their kids would be wowed.