A Beetlejuice Sequel Might Actually Happen
Source:Deadline
September 6, 2011
A long-awaited Beetlejuice sequel may finally be moving forward, Deadline reports. Writer/producer pair David Katzenberg and Seth Grahame-Smith have just signed a two-year first look contract with Warner Bros. and among their first projects is a follow-up to the 1988 film.
Directed by Tim Burton, the original starred Michael Keaton as the titular Beetlejuice, a "bio-exorcist" (a ghost who removes humans), who is unwittingly employed by a newly-deceased couple (played by Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis) to frighten away the family that has just moved into their would-be home. Winona Ryder starred as the daughter of the family in her breakout role.
While the original film spawned a lesser-known animated series, a sequel was planned in the early '90s with the title Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian. Burton had planned to return as director, but the project failed to develop beyond an initial screenplay. It is currently unknown whether or not Katzenberg and Grahame-Smith's upcoming script will have any crossover with that original concept.
Grahame-Smith is one of the writers on Burton's upcoming Dark Shadows and, while there's no confirmation yet as to whether Burton (or Keaton) might be involved with the sequel, it is stated that the film is planned as a continuation of the original and not as a reboot.
This will work only if Burton and Keaton are involved -- and NO ONE ELSE from the '88 original. We don't need to see Lydia all grown up. We don't need to see Baldwin, Davis, Jones, or O'Hara in cameos. Just Keaton and an entirely different supporting cast, with Burton at the helm.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on September 07, 2011, 01:50:32 AM
This will work only if Burton and Keaton are involved -- and NO ONE ELSE from the '88 original. We don't need to see Lydia all grown up. We don't need to see Baldwin, Davis, Jones, or O'Hara in cameos. Just Keaton and an entirely different supporting cast, with Burton at the helm.
This is the type of character that certainly doesn't need to rely on retaining any supporting cast; in fact it would only be brought down by them. there's so much potential here it would be a shame to not see it made.
If Keaton is not in Beetlejuice II, there will be no point in a sequel. Keaton made the character, and the character made M. Keaton. If another actor steps in, what will be the reason for part II? Like with the Batman films after Keaton. I realize there were different directors attached to Batman Forever and Batman( whatever it was called?), but, Keaton made the Batman character shine. As he did for Beetlejuice.
There have been seven Bonds and eleven Doctor Whos, so I think four modern-era Batmans is acceptable. But, Keaton IS Beetlejuice, no question!
Kevin Smith was almost hired to write this some years ago. He mentions it here about 80 seconds in...
Kevin Smith about talk Superman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk#)
"Didn't we say everything about Beetlejuice that we needed to say in the first one, without going tropical?"
Outstanding!
Seth Grahame-Smith says 'Beetlejuice 2' is a straight sequel, other characters possibly returning. (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3140866/seth-grahame-smith-says-beetlejuice-2-is-a-straight-sequel-other-characters-possibly-returning/)
Quote from: Count_Zirock on September 07, 2011, 01:50:32 AM
This will work only if Burton and Keaton are involved -- and NO ONE ELSE from the '88 original. We don't need to see Lydia all grown up. We don't need to see Baldwin, Davis, Jones, or O'Hara in cameos. Just Keaton and an entirely different supporting cast, with Burton at the helm.
I totally agree. Write a new script with Burton and Keaton being the only originals. Bring in a new set of people/events for Beetlejuice to have another fresh story being a bio-exorcist. I really hope they don't eff this one up.
Worst case possible scenario....... Nicholas Cage as Beetlejuice and they pick up were the other movie left off. Or... Johnny Depp plays Beetlejuice. Cage would be worse though. ;)
There is no reason to make this, but I'd rather have a sequel than a re-make if I must choose.
If they could get Heath Ledger to play Beetlejuice, it would make a start on years of abuse when it comes to the living impaired, because all too often the living are cast in the parts of ghosts.
This would be cool I loved the first film the cartoon was cool too.
Quote from: seed_murda on May 15, 2012, 12:18:25 AM
I totally agree. Write a new script with Burton and Keaton being the only originals. Bring in a new set of people/events for Beetlejuice to have another fresh story being a bio-exorcist. I really hope they don't eff this one up.
Worst case possible scenario....... Nicholas Cage as Beetlejuice and they pick up were the other movie left off. Or... Johnny Depp plays Beetlejuice. Cage would be worse though. ;)
No. As bad as Cage would be (and he would be HORRENDOUS), nothing would be as outright vomit-inducing as Keanu Reeves.
Quote from: gnrbaby on May 15, 2012, 01:08:30 AM
There is no reason to make this..........
Ain't that the bottom line on 99.99999999999999% of these proposals?
According to Seth Grahame-Smith, it won't happen if he doesn't turn in a script that utterly "Wows" both Burton and Keaton. Seeing as how he's Burton's new bromantic partner, we've just got to hope Keaton's BS-meter is still in good working order. Then again, he did make "Herbie: Fully Loaded."
Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 05:01:56 PM
According to Seth Grahame-Smith, it won't happen if he doesn't turn in a script that utterly "Wows" both Burton and Keaton. Seeing as how he's Burton's new bromantic partner, we've just got to hope Keaton's BS-meter is still in good working order. Then again, he did make "Herbie: Fully Loaded."
Oh yes, the worthy Disney effort that wanted us to believe that a 1963 VW bug can compete in NASCAR events, if it is equipped with enough cool gadgets. My idea for that film would have jettisoned Lohan, in favor of Cheech and Chong. Because they are stoned, they accidentally drive into a NASCAR race. People stoned on grass might explain what the hell a VW Bug was doing in a race where they don't qualify to enter in a place we like to call reality. And since Herbie would be affected by the smoke they fill him up with as they drive, the title would have been perfect.
Burton doesn't typically do sequels. Only a the 3 Batman films. He doesn't seem inclined to "sequel out" for the sake of a payday.
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!
Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!
And we know how well the inclusion of Robin into the subsequent films worked. Smart moove Warner Brothers.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!
Correct, he did not direct it, but he is listed as the producer.
Quote from: Toy Ranch on May 21, 2012, 04:42:28 PM
Correct, he did not direct it, but he is listed as the producer.
Appeasement for working pre-production for over a year. Burton was very upset about not getting to make "Batman Triumphant," as he intended it to be his Batman swansong. He got out of having to put Robin into "Batman Returns" by casting Marlon Wayans in the role. Robin was actually in early drafts of "Batman," and they went as far as casting Ricky Addison Reed, who played Michael Moriarty's son in "A Return to Salem's Lot" (1987), as Dick Grayson. Burton was able to convince the studio that the film already had way too much going on in it to include Robin, and basically said, "We'll put him in the sequel."
'Beetlejuice 2' to start filming later this year. (http://ihorror.com/beetlejuice-2-officially-starts-filming-this-year/)
Oooh I can't wait!!
I am not very excited that Winona will be in this too, but I'll hold my thumbs that this turns out awesome! Since Keaton is in it I feel pretty good about it.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on May 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Two Batman films: 1989's "Batman" and 1992's "Batman Returns." His third Batman, "Batman Triumphant," with Michael Keaton, Robin Williams as The Riddler and Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face got scuttled in favor of Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever," with Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris O'Donnell, and Nicole Kidman. The bone of contention was that Burton still didn't want to put Robin in the movie. WB decided it was time to milk that cash cow. Once Burton departed, Keaton and Robin Williams left, too. And that left poor Billy Dee out in the cold, to be recast. The only reason he took the role of Harvey Dent in "Batman" was so he could eventually play Two-Face!
Didnt Burton start working on Superman after this?
Quote from: MoreGore on July 15, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
Didnt Burton start working on Superman after this?
That sounds about right, timewise.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on July 15, 2015, 02:36:59 PM
That sounds about right, timewise.
(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/11/cage-114100.jpg)
Nicolas Cage as Superman in Burton version
Yes, probably a good thing it got scrapped. The studio was being ultra-intrusive, and seemed to be pushing Burton's patience with their interference. But, this one would really have stressed how much Superman is an alien who just looks human, and that his death and resurrection are powers beyond our comprehension. These were aspects that stayed with the project throughout its various phases of development, and were brought back in for "Man of Steel" and "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice."
Know how people say "Be careful what you wish for?"
The younger version of me dreamed for a Ghostbusters / Beetlejuice crossover film. Older me doesn't want that, but I'm still a bit curious what would have happened.
Quote from: Gillfan on August 05, 2015, 06:09:52 AM
Know how people say "Be careful what you wish for?"
The younger version of me dreamed for a Ghostbusters / Beetlejuice crossover film. Older me doesn't want that, but I'm still a bit curious what would have happened.
Imagination, my friend! I'm sure whatever you might have imagined would be far better than what the studios would have dreamt up.
Quote from: Count_Zirock on July 20, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Yes, probably a good thing it got scrapped. The studio was being ultra-intrusive, and seemed to be pushing Burton's patience with their interference. But, this one would really have stressed how much Superman is an alien who just looks human, and that his death and resurrection are powers beyond our comprehension. These were aspects that stayed with the project throughout its various phases of development, and were brought back in for "Man of Steel" and "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice."
Actually, I can't help but wonder if this film would have been all that bad after seeing the documentary
The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? recently. What many don't know is that that infamous photo of Nic in the costume was from very early stages of the costume design work. Some of the concept art looks pretty good.
I mean, it still may have been absolutely terrible, but I'm not as certain about that as I used to be.
'Beetlejuice 2' is NOT HAPPENING (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/11/beetlejuice-2-not-happening-tim-burton-rep)
NOT HAPPENING?? Thank goodness!
I remember seeing the first movie in the theater, when it came out back in the 1980's. For me, this was one of those movies that I couldn't wait til it ended. I never found it funny at all, and I can remember absolutely hating Beetlejuice himself. Talked too fast, wouldn't shut up, and just wanted to smack him. Hated that character. On the other hand, I did collect the toys...those I liked. But the movie itself? Blech!
Have to say, I am disappointed.
Quote from: Rockshasa on March 11, 2016, 11:22:42 PM
NOT HAPPENING?? Thank goodness!
I remember seeing the first movie in the theater, when it came out back in the 1980's. For me, this was one of those movies that I couldn't wait til it ended. I never found it funny at all, and I can remember absolutely hating Beetlejuice himself. Talked too fast, wouldn't shut up, and just wanted to smack him. Hated that character. On the other hand, I did collect the toys...those I liked. But the movie itself? Blech!
I get you hated the film. My question then is why would you care one way or another if the made a sequel? If it came to a sequel to "The Oogie Love" movie, since I would have no interest in seeing it, the announcement that the sequel was being cancelled was have no meaning to me.
Quote from: Haunted hearse on April 05, 2016, 07:49:33 PM
I get you hated the film. My question then is why would you care one way or another if the made a sequel? If it came to a sequel to "The Oogie Love" movie, since I would have no interest in seeing it, the announcement that the sequel was being cancelled was have no meaning to me.
I'm with you, Hh. If it's something I'm not interested in I simply ignore it. The world is full of crappy movies, especially from the last few years, and they crank out new cinematic sewage every day. The existence of that crap doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
Quote from: horrorhunter on April 05, 2016, 09:56:46 PM
I'm with you, Hh. If it's something I'm not interested in I simply ignore it. The world is full of crappy movies, especially from the last few years, and they crank out new cinematic sewage every day. The existence of that crap doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
If Hollywood continues to pump-out anymore horrible, cookie-cutter,
trash......I'll rip my eyes out with a rusty spoon. Unfortunately I have Family members who drag me with them to crappy, Hollywood movies.
These movies (cannot call 'em films, that would imply the movies are art) are S***! Most are highly formulatic, pedestrian and garbage.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on April 05, 2016, 10:31:12 PM
If Hollywood continues to pump-out anymore horrible, cookie-cutter,
trash......I'll rip my eyes out with a rusty spoon. Unfortunately I have Family members who drag me with them to crappy, Hollywood movies.
These movies (cannot call 'em films, that would imply the movies are art) are S***! Most are highly formulatic, pedestrian and garbage.
Dude, 90% of my entertainment is from the mid '70s and before. That includes movies, TV, books, mags, comics, pretty much everything. There have been a few good things since the mid '70s, but not that many. I think the fact that so much pure crap has been hacked out (or
re-imagined :P) from the '80s onward it has overwhelmed the good stuff and made it seem scarce. Just my opinion, of course. To most young people this kind of attitude just seems bitchy and old. I just know how I feel about it having grown up in the '60s and '70s. To be honest the '70s had it's share of dreck as well... like fashion and disco ::). As sh*t goes, there was just less of it back then as opposed to a sewer-full afterwards.
Well, massive thread bump but considering Beetlejuice 2 did become a reality...........
As a Tim Burton fan since childhood, I'd like to make a claim at the "WE'RE BACK" Department.
Hell, I'd even say it's better than the first. Oh yeah, I'm going there.
The script is pretty barebones and it does feel rushed (not that suprising coming from the Smallville writers) but holy crap, after years of meh films, does it feel like such a rush when Tim finally gets his creative juices running like mad on a frantic film that can get completely unhinged. Honestly, the best comparision I can make with this film is with Batman Returns, in both good and bad ways.
But God, it feels damn good to say he's back.
9/10