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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: Monsters For Sale on November 06, 2010, 09:45:44 PM

Title: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 06, 2010, 09:45:44 PM
The former owner (a 37-year veteran Soaky collector) claims this 10" plastic "Soaky-like" bottle is at minimum 20 years old.  It has no markings.

I've never seen another like it.  What the heck is it, anyway?

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1083/5153137990_a812d1a368_b.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1424/5153137914_7ef9bef4ff_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/5153137880_06cf75b102_b.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/5153137828_882ecd8ed9_b.jpg)


Could it be a Mexican/European knockoff?


Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Dr. Madd on November 06, 2010, 11:44:25 PM
What's it made of.. What does the interior smell like?
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 06, 2010, 11:55:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Madd on November 06, 2010, 11:44:25 PM
What's it made of.. What does the interior smell like?

Empty plastic bottle - Like an old Soaky.  No smell.

Owner identified it as a "bubble bath" bottle that she had for over 20 years.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: fmofmpls on November 07, 2010, 09:43:43 AM
Wow! What the heck is that? It's very cool, I know that! Any markings whatsoever on the figure?

ME WANTY!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: raycastile on November 07, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
It is extremely cool, and maybe a little suspicious, especially with no markings.  If the previous owner were named Matt Jaycox, I'd smell a rat! 

It looks too refined to be a Mexican piece.  I'm thinking it's an unlicensed early 90s Halloween item, pre-Internet, that came and went with little notice.  It definitely has a 60s monster vibe, but I don't think it is that old.  But I'm just guessing, throwing my dice on the wheel.  I have no idea what it really is.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: raycastile on November 07, 2010, 02:06:24 PM
I could swear I've seen that head before.  It reminds me of the illustration on the Don Post Frankenstein mask box.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: GAKENSTEIN on November 07, 2010, 10:00:40 PM
It looks to me like a relic from the 70s or maybe the 80s.  ME WANTY too.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsterscud on November 08, 2010, 05:08:50 PM
What ever the age this is way cool. I have a few monster bubble bath containers, some of which I am hoping to post in the modern toys section. Wish I had this Frankenstein though.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Scatter on November 08, 2010, 05:10:58 PM
I'm pretty sure it's Frankenstein's Monster. But I'm no expert.  ;)
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 08, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: raycastile on November 07, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
It is extremely cool, and maybe a little suspicious, especially with no markings. ... 

I had the same uncomfortable feeling about this.  The body looked a little generic from the seller's pictures.  Since no one here has identified this bottle yet, I was a little worried that something like a flashlight Frankenstein head had been married to a random body.  I received this in the mail today and took some more pictures:

Here is a closeup of the head - It fits snugly over the cap.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5159962412_a0a5df9d97_z.jpg)

Left Profile - Notice the additional clamps on temple and neck.

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/5159356587_f85321e8b1_z.jpg)

3/4 View - Left

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/5159356327_0610af1e34_z.jpg)

Left Wrist - Coat is torn and the wrist has a scar an clamp in front

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1359/5159961534_fdd7ed3151_b.jpg)

3/4 View - Right

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1143/5159355857_90ffebaf69_z.jpg)


Right Wrist - Cuff is frayed and wrist and neck clamps can be seen clearly

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5159960976_957fe04079_b.jpg)

Back of Wrists - Clamps and wrist scars can be seen. 

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/5159355287_7334b05528_b.jpg)

Both wrist have 2 clamps placed front and back and a single stich placed between them.

The bottle neck has a plug with tiny hole for dispensing the bubble bath - so that agrees with seller's description.  He is slightly taller than described - he is 10.5 inches tall.

I hope these pictures help someone identify him.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monster Bob on November 08, 2010, 08:36:57 PM


It looks original to itself to me (head and body match). Look at the 'flash' plastic on the seams- it matches identically head to body.

I agree it looks 70s/80s...or later. The cap looks newer. Neat piece, though...congrats!

Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 08, 2010, 08:59:11 PM
Quote from: Monster Bob on November 08, 2010, 08:36:57 PM

It looks original to itself to me (head and body match). Look at the 'flash' plastic on the seams- it matches identically head to body.

I agree it looks 70s/80s...or later. The cap looks newer. Neat piece, though...congrats!

Yeah, I was really glad to finally see it in person and get a better look at all the Frankenstein-related detail in the body.  The cap appears to be original in person.

There are no markings anywhere.  Wish someone here knew something more about it.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: fmofmpls on November 09, 2010, 07:55:58 AM
I'm with Bob - this looks like the real deal to me. Everything is in scale, the clothing looks like Frankenstein attire (including boots), and the flashing along the body and head seals the deal for me.

A super piece! Congrats!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Toy Ranch on November 09, 2010, 11:24:43 AM
No clue, but very cool!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: shiverbones on November 09, 2010, 02:44:05 PM
Great find!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: RedKing on November 09, 2010, 08:29:36 PM
That is very cool! :o
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: raycastile on November 10, 2010, 04:03:01 AM
I think it's interesting that his forehead scar is not only on the left side, but is angled sloping to the left.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 10, 2010, 04:09:08 AM
Quote from: raycastile on November 10, 2010, 04:03:01 AM
I think it's interesting that his forehead scar is not only on the left side, but is angled sloping to the left.

Reminded me of the Electric Frankenstein posters where it looks like they were working with a mirror image.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on July 12, 2012, 07:52:44 AM


Forgive me for bumping this topic up.

I was hoping the UMA had recruited a new member who could identify this silly bottle.

Or maybe an old member has encountered one of these, or some other collector who has one.

Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: bigbud on July 12, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
Maybe I can help........please send to me for closer examination.......ha!    Buddy
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Scatter on July 12, 2012, 08:37:04 AM
Whatever it is, it's cool as hell!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Zardoz on July 12, 2012, 09:57:26 AM
Can't help to identify but love it just the same !!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: horror1o1 on July 12, 2012, 10:27:56 AM
seems very familiar but i have no idea what it is.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Haunted hearse on July 12, 2012, 10:35:35 AM
What's fustrating is the lack of markings.  My guess is that this piece was included as part of a set, wrapped in plastic with a label on it, or had a sticker on it that was easily removed.  Without the label, your best hope is for soemone to eventually sell something like it, and that could tell you what you have. 
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: mjaycox on July 22, 2013, 03:03:54 PM
Two years later and it remains a mystery...
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on July 22, 2013, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: mjaycox on July 22, 2013, 03:03:54 PM
Two years later and it remains a mystery...

But another just sold on eBay.  This one was in the UK.  Again, the seller says he knows nothing about it and has never seen a 2nd example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-and-unusual-frankenstein-soaky-bottle-/121142956240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c34aed0d0&nma=true&si=J4PlYnmQhHKSmyyxPRgTuxBizks%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-and-unusual-frankenstein-soaky-bottle-/121142956240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c34aed0d0&nma=true&si=J4PlYnmQhHKSmyyxPRgTuxBizks%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)

Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: horrorhunter on July 22, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
I saw something very similar on eBay recently. Maybe do a search of closed auctions and see if you find any pertinent info.

BTW, Haunted Hulk eBay auction siting. Not mine, but anyone needing a Haunted Hulk might want to check it out. It has some damage, is nasty, and has a reserve. But still, they don't come up often. After a cleanup, and some repro stickers, it would probably display okay.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: horrorhunter on July 22, 2013, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on July 22, 2013, 03:44:34 PM
But another just sold on eBay.  This one was in the UK.  Again, the seller says he knows nothing about it and has never seen a 2nd example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-and-unusual-frankenstein-soaky-bottle-/121142956240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c34aed0d0&nma=true&si=J4PlYnmQhHKSmyyxPRgTuxBizks%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-and-unusual-frankenstein-soaky-bottle-/121142956240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c34aed0d0&nma=true&si=J4PlYnmQhHKSmyyxPRgTuxBizks%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
That's it. I posted at practically the same time you did. :)
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Darkside1 on July 23, 2013, 01:46:57 PM

  Very cool looking piece. I wonder if there was a Drac or Mummy?
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on August 31, 2013, 02:03:37 AM
Perhaps...

Late '70s character bubble bath bottles from Noveltime Products Ltd out of the UK. The design, style, manufacturing, UK origin, and general lack of markings are all very similar. If it is from this company, I sure would delight in seeing the package.

Bionic Man on Plaid Staillions:

http://plaidstallions.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/bionic-bubble-bath.html (http://plaidstallions.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/bionic-bubble-bath.html)

Bionic Woman

http://www.bionicwomanfiles.com/tbwt/links/access_bubble.htm (http://www.bionicwomanfiles.com/tbwt/links/access_bubble.htm)

James Bond from Moonraker Hake's auction (they note the bottle is marked "BRB" on the bottom:

http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?AuctionItemID=322 (http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?AuctionItemID=322)

James Bond Moonraker Hake's auction larg photo:

http://www.hakes.com/images.asp?ItemNo=37601&ImageNo=001 (http://www.hakes.com/images.asp?ItemNo=37601&ImageNo=001)

Noveltime seems to have formed in 1969 and become defunct in 1985.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 31, 2013, 06:16:18 AM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on August 31, 2013, 02:03:37 AM
Perhaps...

Late '70s character bubble bath bottles from Noveltime Products Ltd out of the UK. The design, style, manufacturing, UK origin, and general lack of markings are all very similar. If it is from this company, I sure would delight in seeing the package. ...

...James Bond Moonraker Hake's auction larg photo:

http://www.hakes.com/images.asp?ItemNo=37601&ImageNo=001 (http://www.hakes.com/images.asp?ItemNo=37601&ImageNo=001)

Noveltime seems to have formed in 1969 and become defunct in 1985.

Wow, that looks like a real possibility!


(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3666/9635532185_5dec0d20c4_o.jpg)


I was hoping the fact that the 2nd auction was in the UK might give another avenue of research.  It would help explain why none of our many U.S. members were familiar with it.

Also interesting to see that the Bond w/Box sold for $320.00.

I'd like to know if they made any other monsters.  I'd like to see any packaging for the Frank, too.

Thanks for the links!
Title: Bottle
Post by: jimm on August 31, 2013, 06:17:01 AM
Nice work, you nailed it!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on May 15, 2024, 04:30:50 PM
Still curious about this bottle.

I've never seen any others beyond these two.  Has anyone else seen these pop up?

I'd sure like to see one with its original box!
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on June 14, 2024, 07:47:27 PM
These images were recently shared online. The UK based poster rescued it from being bound for the dump while assisting with a house clean out.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GhVst3HP/Noveltime-Products-Ltd-Bubble-Bath-Dracula-1-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnKjr3sW/Noveltime-Products-Ltd-Bubble-Bath-Dracula-1-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on June 14, 2024, 09:23:01 PM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on June 14, 2024, 07:47:27 PMThese images were recently shared online. The UK based poster rescued it from being bound for the dump while assisting with a house clean out. ... 

Oh, WOW!

That ls REALLY special.

Thanks so much for posting this here.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: darkmonkeygod on June 14, 2024, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on June 14, 2024, 09:23:01 PMThat ls REALLY special.

I forgot to mention: it's unused. Still filled with blood red bubble bath.


Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on June 15, 2024, 04:10:50 AM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on June 14, 2024, 11:22:24 PMI forgot to mention: it's unused. Still filled with blood red bubble bath.


In that case, it is a spectacular find.

(I wonder what color the Frankenstein soap was?)

I'd love to know if they were the only two monsters, and what any other boxes looked like.
Title: Re: Help Identifying This Frankenstein Bottle?
Post by: Hepcat on June 16, 2024, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: darkmonkeygod on June 14, 2024, 11:22:24 PMI forgot to mention: it's unused. Still filled with blood red bubble bath.

Wow! That's incredible.

 :o